Am I thinking about points wrong?

Ok so this may be a dumb question, but I can't seem to find the simple answer I am looking for.

I have read a-lot about fishing points, but I am beginning to think I have a fundamental misunderstanding. I just assumed from the beginning speaking of a point, I am looking for where a shallow comes out and makes a point into deeper water, But I read an article that made me think he was talking about the point a drain comes into a flat and fishing that as the point.

So I guess my question is what defines a Point? is it a shallow point out into deep? or a deep cut point into a shallow? or both? In the Pictures I posted, Should I been concentrating my time in the area's in Red? or Area's in Green?

Uhhhh fish the carp out of both of those spots.

I think of a true point as an extension of a land feature. It looks like you are really talking about humps, ridges, and channel swings as in "Offshore Structure".

Point v. funnel

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/10859937/

Your doing right for the most part. I have found alot of people define points and humps different than the next guy same goes for drains and creek channels. As long as you know what they are then dont worry about everybody else.

Best Response you could have given...exactly what I was looking for.

That escalated quickly

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

lol sorry, just some people come right in and are super helpful, and others are just searching for somewhere to put someone down.

No one put you down. You asked newbie question and you got good advice. Regardless of a point or not he said fish both because they could both be good spots.

Grow some thicker skin or find somewhere else to post.....you won't last long around here if sensitive.

Not sure how he was putting you down dude. Lighten up. Rude response to someone helping you out. I am with him l. I would hit that whole area. It has drains, points, roadbeds, culverts all sort of features to check out. Just because it's not contectted to visible land does not mean it's not a point. A horseshoe creek bend can make a awesome point.

Yep you asked what a poInt was and he basically said those are points. Fish em hard. Didn't sound rude at all to me.

I dont think he was putting you down, he was just being point blan honest , You are looking at good places to fish no matter what anyone else says.
People interpret things differently. Some say those are humps some will say underwater points, good places either way

You guys are Right, I am the idiot. I took it as fish the carp out of them because that is the only fish that will be there.... thought to much into it. deserving redicule

Wasn't trying to be rude, I just took it completely wrong. Thought he was telling me the spots where to garbage to comment on basically.

That link is filled with info!

You are asking good questions. I think it's good to be specific about structure features. It helps when you are trying to put patterns together and search for areas similar to those where you have had success.

The magic depth on your map is 12 to 15 ft. of water. I find 5 excellent irregular features at that depth other than the areas you have marked which is basically the underwater points and funnel points.

The best features are on the sides of these points and not out on the end. Occasionally you will find a squared off point out on the end with the contours stacked; but many times it is in much deeper water with no cover and the Bass that live there will be very difficult to get to bite until they move up to feed.

Two things must happen on these 5 features and down scan comes into play here to determine if they will produce or not. They are very irregular meaning there is a quick change in contour from 12 to 25 ft.. It also must mean there is a difference in the bottom structure of small rocks/dirt to a huge rock formation. These are usually very short in length; but provide the exact structure big fish are looking for. Next it must have as heavy cover as possible on top. This provides them with the last place to rest, feel safe and feed when something provides that opportunity; just before they move below the ledge. Many big fish will live in the deep cover and only drop to deeper water when they feel threatened as an escape route.

I would mark those for you but I don't know how. I only find that one in twenty irregular features will hold great fish. Many fish will visit; but will not stay very long. That is why you catch a few one day then never again. You have to work to find that one good feature with all the right stuff and they will always be there.

Brother, not putting you down at all. I was telling you it looks like you found 2 good spots to me and I would drag a C-rig, football jig or weighted swim-bait all over those looking for big females sitting on the bottom. Both are good spots, good finds.

Simple answer IMO points are red and green are coves, but agree with everyone to hammer both.

Looks to me like your marked areas in Red are not what I would call a point.. but a ledge or drop off in to a creek channel near a point. The Green areas are what I would consider a Point in the creek channel. Its not as clear when you are talking about features of a creek channel under water vs land features above the water. Does that make sense? The area in the 2nd screen shot way over to the right (Green area) is really too broad to be called a "Point", more like a ledge on the creek channel IMO. Also the red area in that 2nd shot I would say is more of a ledge than a point. Regardless.. I would fish the carp out of those areas!

aka fish the c r a p out of both those spots. He wan't referring to carp the trash fish.

sell the boat and buy some golf clubs!

Yea that hit me, it was just too late. Kinda like congratulating a non-pregnate lady, sometimes its better to look twice and evaluate before you comment lol. my bad...my bad.

On this forum people use carp instead of c**p.. You'll be good to go in those places, & as Frank says," Fish the CARP out of those places for Bass!!!!Those are great areas. Welcome to the Forum.

Fish the carp out of it is a polite way of saying fish the [censored] out of it. He was telling you that you are on a good area. Fish could be on all of it at any given time.

Looks that way to me as well.

Glad to see people can admit when there wrong, we all do it!

OK ......
so what were the coordinates of the red and green markings ?
I'll need to go put my graph on them to determine if they are points or drains..........
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