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rough ride

Posted By: skeeter johnson

rough ride - 05/10/18 01:25 PM

hey guys,
quick question i purchased a new ZX225 . It seems to be a rougher ride than my ZX200 would lowering the motor on jack plate help
Posted By: InTheClear

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 02:53 PM

just curious if your are running the same pitch on the prop compared to the ZX200? May have something to do with the lift of the hull and its just something that you aren't used to?
Posted By: daddystog

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 03:21 PM

Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water
Posted By: Fishinfellow

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


Heavy older Tritons? I always thought the old tritons were light and would chine like crazy (unlike old champs and rangers).
hmmm
Posted By: Donald Harper

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 03:27 PM

Keep her trimmed all the way down in really rough water and let it rip. Not so rough water begin you trim to a happy medium. Boat will porpoise at low speeds and any trim.
Posted By: Jarrett Latta

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 03:44 PM

The old Champions were light in my opinion. They rode great because of hull design. The 221 was listed as 1600lbs
Posted By: Mayo

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 04:05 PM

You were probably trimmed up too much. In the really rough stuff I don't like to be trimmed all the way down either. I like to trim up just a touch to get a bit more lift on the nose but not so much that you're bouncing all over the place and can't control the boat.
Posted By: Insurance man

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Mayo
You were probably trimmed up too much. In the really rough stuff I don't like to be trimmed all the way down either. I like to trim up just a touch to get a bit more lift on the nose but not so much that you're bouncing all over the place and can't control the boat.
This
Posted By: BMCD

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 04:27 PM

Could just be the type of waves and direction.
Posted By: daddystog

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Fishinfellow
Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


Heavy older Tritons? I always thought the old tritons were light and would chine like crazy (unlike old champs and rangers).
hmmm
it's according to which Triton hull you had, HP hull were faster but chine walked at about 68 mhp , XS hull slower but much smoother in rough water
Posted By: furim2

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
Keep her trimmed all the way down in really rough water and let it rip. Not so rough water begin you trim to a happy medium. Boat will porpoise at low speeds and any trim.

Let it rip and spear the first wave you come to. That's fun.
Posted By: RedRaider3933

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: furim2
Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
Keep her trimmed all the way down in really rough water and let it rip. Not so rough water begin you trim to a happy medium. Boat will porpoise at low speeds and any trim.

Let it rip and spear the first wave you come to. That's fun.

Was thinking the same thing. If you trim all the way down in rough stuff you're in for a bad day and some wet clothes.
Posted By: daddystog

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Originally Posted By: Fishinfellow
Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


Heavy older Tritons? I always thought the old tritons were light and would chine like crazy (unlike old champs and rangers).
hmmm
it's according to which Triton hull you had, HP hull were faster but chine walked at about 68 mhp , XS hull slower but much smoother in rough water

Bored at work so nothing better to do ,
2006 Triton X hull 1950 lbs, 2006 Triton HP hull 1880 lbs, 2018 Triton X hull 1840 lbs
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 06:38 PM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Originally Posted By: daddystog
Originally Posted By: Fishinfellow
Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


Heavy older Tritons? I always thought the old tritons were light and would chine like crazy (unlike old champs and rangers).
hmmm
it's according to which Triton hull you had, HP hull were faster but chine walked at about 68 mhp , XS hull slower but much smoother in rough water

Bored at work so nothing better to do ,
2006 Triton X hull 1950 lbs, 2006 Triton HP hull 1880 lbs, 2018 Triton X hull 1840 lbs
so, basically ...nothing of significance?

I bet the older boats were lighter when fully rigged.

I know I took a 2003 and updated it last year and added about 200 pounds of weight just changing graphs, batteries, and trolling motor.

.....my take on the OPs situation is this. Every boat is different...even same year and similarly equipped boats. It's gonna take a little seat time to get it riding as smooth as THAT boat is going to ride.
Posted By: Donald Harper

Re: rough ride - 05/10/18 06:56 PM

The ZX225 sits plenty high in the front. If there are waves that big to spear one, you do not need to be running at rip. There is a lot of difference in rough water and big rolling waves. There are levels of rough water that this boat will take on just fine. Each of those requires different driving techniques.

- One foot or less will allow you to get on top with trim up. If the bow is rising and falling because of the trim and lower speed you have to find that happy medium between trim and speed.
- Rough water in one foot waves. Run with no trim so the bow is cutting through and giving you the best ride. This boat will run all out on these waves if you so choose to trim up; still finding that sweet spot between speed and ride.
- Rough Water in two foot waves. You can catch one over the bow and that is usually every 5th wave. Still run with trim down finding that sweet spot with the throttle not going fast enough to spear one. Backing off as much as needed to allow the boat to make the top of every wave coming.
- Big Water and big rollers calls for a much slower run; throttling up and back to time the climbs up and over. Angling side ways to the far shoreline is sometime necessary. Making your turn in a cove or against a non windy bank to make the run back to the other side of the lake. This takes lots of time; but you will survive the run without taking on water.
Posted By: Von

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 05:20 AM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


I'll disagree...21 Bullets and Allison's ride like a dream and are very light.

My old Champ weighs 1350, dang sure nor heavy... and rides well.
Posted By: Von

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 05:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
The old Champions were light in my opinion. They rode great because of hull design. The 221 was listed as 1600lbs


Spot on...my 201 is listed as 1350. Same reason buddy's 21 bullet rides so good.
Posted By: Dubee

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 10:56 AM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Do you know the weight of the two boats, usually heavier boats rides better
The older Champions, Rangers and Tritons that everyone called Leadsleds sure did ride good in rough water


1st time I have ever heard someone call the older Tritons leadsleds. Lol
Posted By: skeeter johnson

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 11:02 AM

thx
Posted By: daddystog

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 04:18 PM

Just trying to help him figure out why two of the same brand boats would ride different , and that's all I use to hear from my buddys that ran Skeeters in East Texas was how I should trade my 1950lb hull weight Triton on a new skeeter
Posted By: Dubee

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: daddystog
Just trying to help him figure out why two of the same brand boats would ride different , and that's all I use to hear from my buddys that ran Skeeters in East Texas was how I should trade my 1950lb hull weight Triton on a new skeeter


That's because they got tired of you outrunnimg them.
Posted By: marschall

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 06:38 PM

Why I love my old Cajun !
Posted By: daddystog

Re: rough ride - 05/11/18 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: marschall
Why I love my old Cajun !
My family down in south Louisiana have a couple of old Cajun Boats they still love and an old Pro Gator that has hit so many stumps the bottom of the hull looks like the surface of a golf-ball but it's still water tight
Posted By: Ken A.

Re: rough ride - 05/12/18 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Von
Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
The old Champions were light in my opinion. They rode great because of hull design. The 221 was listed as 1600lbs


Spot on...my 201 is listed as 1350. Same reason buddy's 21 bullet rides so good.


Weight plays a role in how a boat rides but not as much as hull design. My 980# Allison rode as well as my 1800# Triton. The sharp vee and the narrow front end of the Ally helps it slice thru waves like a hot knife thru butter. Fishability sucked however. grin
Posted By: Happykamper

Re: rough ride - 05/12/18 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Ken A.
Originally Posted By: Von
Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
The old Champions were light in my opinion. They rode great because of hull design. The 221 was listed as 1600lbs


Spot on...my 201 is listed as 1350. Same reason buddy's 21 bullet rides so good.


Weight plays a role in how a boat rides but not as much as hull design. My 980# Allison rode as well as my 1800# Triton. The sharp vee and the narrow front end of the Ally helps it slice thru waves like a hot knife thru butter. Fishability sucked however. grin


I love how everyone talks about how some boats ride so much better than others, there is a reason for that, ask me this, do you spend more time riding or fishing ? I like a boat that has a good combination of ride and fish well, along with looks and layout, there are several brands out there that do that well.
Posted By: tejasbass

Re: rough ride - 05/12/18 01:09 AM

Your 225 should ride a lot better than the 200. Call http://www.stevescustomprops.com/
. You'll be glad you did.
Posted By: marschall

Re: rough ride - 05/12/18 01:36 PM

My dream boat would be to find a Rajun Cajun . But There is nothing wrong with mine so --- Will be using it next Sunday at The Bohemian at Whitney . Old 91 used to be a fish and ski with a walk thru windshield . I modified it just a little . She rides so smooth in rough water .
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