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13 Fishing Concept Z

Posted By: Dmfo

13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/11/18 11:52 PM

I did a search and only found one thread in the bass section linking to a few company/ pros reviews.

The point of this thread is to ask... Has anyone bought the Concept Z yet? if so what is your opinion on this reel and does it live up to the hype so far?
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/13/18 01:01 AM

We are waiting on you to buy one first! bolt
Posted By: dk2429

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/14/18 07:14 PM

Yes sir, have had mine for a few weeks now. Simply put, they live up to their name, and the advertisement on them was accurate. Very quiet reel and completely effortless to cast. A little sling in the wrist will send the lure as far as you need.. Now, as far as how long the bushings will hold up, only time will tell. But so far, I love it!!!
Posted By: Bass4bill

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/15/18 12:24 AM

Spooled up 6.6:1 Concept Z w/12# Seaguar Invisx line and adjusted cast control to 3,tied-on 4/0 thin wire hook w/non-wt'd senko and cast using a 7'1" M (13 Fishing) OMEN rod and got easy 40 plus yds. Set cast ctl. to 1 and went 50+ yds. Showed these to all the Georgetown Bass Club guys and the loved them.They Pitch and Flip so easily.Can't wait to try the 8.1:1 skipping a frog or skipping the docks on LBJ. I sell 13 Fishing rods and reels and these reels are selling FAST. I sell the Concept A's,C's,Z's in (6.6:1,7.3:1 and 8.1:1) ratios. I Haven't rec'd any Z (7.3:1) as yet,but expect them soon.Contact me( Bill Harman @ 512-470-7176) for discounted pricing,,,
Posted By: thirtysixit

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/22/18 08:39 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4XyKf9J3U&t=758s

This guy lets her rip. But the reel doesn't sound too good.
Posted By: Dmfo

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/23/18 02:04 AM

I went to academy this weekend. First reel I picked up was the one they had on display in the cabinet. In my unprofessional, limited experience the reel felt flimsy and brittle, maybe the light weight of the reel, compared to what I am used to, is throwing me off. My only other issue was the noticeable play in the handle. I asked the associate if he would open a box and let me see if the handle issue was from customers’ abuse of the display reel or if it was inherent to all the reels. The associate obliged and opened a new box so I could test the handle of a virgin reel.

The second reel had the same issue. I palmed a few more reels I had been doing research on as well and I decided to go with a different reel than the concept Z.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think the Z is junk, however; after reading reviews, watching comparison/test videos of the Z, and actually feeling the reel in my hands I don’t feel it is worth $200. Also I find it funny that 13 fishing comes out with a revolutionary “concept zero bearing” and instead of making it a staple of their company and a selling point for all their reels (to increase their reel values across the board), they come out with one new reel to put them in. To me the concept zero bearing smells of a gimmick and $200 is allot for me to gamble on.
Posted By: Huckleberry

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/23/18 02:16 AM

Ha Ha, that you tube video just ended the sales of that reel. Glad I didn’t buy one yet, what a piece of _____!
Posted By: LMG

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 01/23/18 04:15 PM

Z is a overhyped YouTube marketed reel. And they will sell, but to those who have no clue. I can see some advantages to not having a bearing for use in salt water, but thats about it.
Posted By: TXMako2201

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/01/18 06:03 PM

I think you can get the z bearing (or bushing or whatever it is) for the other concept models that aren't blaze orange
Posted By: BBG920xp

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/06/18 01:06 PM

I have had 8 different 13 reels and I don't care for any of them long term... They're spectacular for a couple of weeks but not very resilient when you fish a few times a week.
Posted By: BBG920xp

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/06/18 01:06 PM

I have had 8 different 13 reels and I don't care for any of them long term... They're spectacular for a couple of weeks but not very resilient when you fish a few times a week.
Posted By: dk2429

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/11/18 11:44 PM

Update-

Taking mine back and getting a Concept A.... It hasn't given me any issues, but many folks down here are saying theirs are starting to make noise and what not and are going back to the Concept C's/A's/TX

I will admit, it feels like cheap plastic......
Posted By: Brad R

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/12/18 12:22 PM

Most new products are hyped a bit in the promotional phase. Here, the makers have a great reel in the Concept A and others. I think I'd be inclined to wait a few model years. Buying anything brand new usually means we, the consumers, become the beta testers. I don't care what the engineers do in the laboratories, it seems the work to discover issues will come out on the water in every-day usage.

For the same dollars, this after seeing this new reel up against a similarly priced Shimano where the tests showed similar casting distances, I'd go with a Shimano or another reel with a proven history.

For sure, trying one out would be a great idea. But, it often takes a full day of fishing to really know what the true attributes are for gear.

I do see a true application for this reel: saltwater fishing. If this Z is easier to maintain in that environment, they'll have a great market to penetrate.

Brad
Posted By: dk2429

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/12/18 02:48 PM

Brad,

I live on the coast down here. My real love is bass fishing, but I also go after trout/reds since I'm right by the salt down here.

The reel feels like a toy. Does it cast good? Yeah! It completely flies, butter smooth, effortless to cast. But, the build quality just isn't there.. I prefer the other concept reels that you can tell you are actually holding a piece of aluminum, not a hunk of plastic. Alot of reputable guides down here with the Z's are going back to the C and TX models.
Posted By: Brad R

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/12/18 04:18 PM

Agreed that feel goes a very long way.

I have 3 or 4 Shimano Ci4+ spinning reels and they are made from that super light carbon material, so light, so water tight. I actually love the feel of those over metal spinning reels.

It could be an acquired taste!

My neighbor has a Concept A and I have always been super impressed by how reliable and what a good caster it is. I can see why guys want to revert to one of those.

I mentioned elsewhere that the loud orange/red paint was likely a marketing ploy. If you have one at a boat ramp, everyone is going to ask you how you like it. It is so identifiable.

This has been one of the more touted reels lately. Those guys did a great job. Now, will it live up to all of the hype? Time will tell.


Brad
Posted By: dk2429

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 02/12/18 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Brad R
Agreed that feel goes a very long way.

I have 3 or 4 Shimano Ci4+ spinning reels and they are made from that super light carbon material, so light, so water tight. I actually love the feel of those over metal spinning reels.

It could be an acquired taste!

My neighbor has a Concept A and I have always been super impressed by how reliable and what a good caster it is. I can see why guys want to revert to one of those.

I mentioned elsewhere that the loud orange/red paint was likely a marketing ploy. If you have one at a boat ramp, everyone is going to ask you how you like it. It is so identifiable.

This has been one of the more touted reels lately. Those guys did a great job. Now, will it live up to all of the hype? Time will tell.


Brad


Time will tell indeed, but so far, it's getting lots of negative reviews. Who knows though? It might turn out to be a super reliable/bulletproof reel. But until that's proven, I'm going to take mine back and get a reel that has already been proven....

And I agree with you about color.. But in all honesty, how can we blame them? If I was trying to make a living off of fishing reels I'd make mine appealing too! I don't care too much for the orange.. However, the blue TX reel and the Concept C looks sweet! Although the color of the TX is my favorite color, I will say that the Concept TX is a tried and true reel. There's something about it that makes it feel like it preforms better than the C models. The TX is a very very popular reel down here on the coast because they have been proven reliable and saltwater worthy. If you ask me, 13 Fishing is stupid for not making them anymore
Posted By: Bulletman99

Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z - 03/05/18 03:00 PM

Originally Posted By: dk2429
[quote=Brad R]If you ask me, 13 Fishing is stupid for not making them anymore


The Concept TX is still being made under a "Limited Edition" model and many of the original models can still be found online just about everywhere. They also have an Origin TX which is much cheaper.
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