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Lowrance SONAR

Posted By: jsplinter

Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/11 05:07 PM

These threads will be used for information on each selected brand of SONAR. As of right now they will remain unlocked so that someone with questions can ask and hopefully receive the help they need. Please respect the idea behind these and keep the cross brand fighting out. If it becomes an issue the threads will be locked.


looks like we got it rolling, thanks Jason for adding all the links and everyone else for getting this started.

Feel free to add pictures from your Lowrance unit, or if you are a Lowrance Guru feel free to help us get this thread going
Posted By: TALLBALDGUY

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/11 10:22 PM

Here are some photos






Posted By: MrG

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/11 11:23 PM

Sandies, hybrids, or stripers?
Posted By: TALLBALDGUY

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/11 11:43 PM

Pick 1,3 ,4 5 are sandies
Pick 2 is hybrids
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 12:05 AM

Remarkable. Looking at the first pic, the "downscan" part, do you suppose the hazy cloud that extends from just above the fish to the surface is bait, or prop wash or some other form of interference?
Posted By: TALLBALDGUY

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 12:47 AM

Probaly prop wash,, i think that picture was taken before i changed a setting to elimate most of that.
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 03:54 AM

Helpful links for your Lowrance unit.

***Lowrance link to support and self support.****
http://www.lowrance.com/Support/

Link to Lei-Extra for Your source for Lowrance and Eagle accessories.
http://www.lei-extras.com/store/default.asp

********Lowrance How to video's.**********
http://www.lowrance.com/Support/Video-Library/MARINE/How-Tos/

HDS video's and Structure Scan video's
http://www.hightechfishing.com/

Doc Samson Lowrance HDS instructional DVD
http://doctorsonar.com/catalog/

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GPS Module Issues


GPS Module Not Responding
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/GPS/GPS_Module_Not_Responding.pdf

GPS Module Overview
http://bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/GPS/GPS_Modules_Info.pdf

NMEA 2000 Networking


NMEA 2000 Starter Kit
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/Newtorking/NMEA_2000_Networking_Starter_Kit.pdf

NMEA 2000 Networking Overview
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/Newtorking/Networking_Overview.pdf

How To Guides

Enable Structure Scan
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...n_Simulator.pdf

Create Waypoint
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/How_To_Create_a_Waypoint_on_HDS_Unit.pdf

Create Waypoint from Sonar Page
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...on_HDS_Unit.pdf

Change GPS Antenna Selection
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...on_HDS_Unit.pdf

Add Data Overlay on HDS unit
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/How_to_Add_Overlay_Data_on_HDS_Units.pdf

Turn on Trails and Change Options
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...ions_on_HDS.pdf

Save Waypoints to MMC/SD Card on HDS Units
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/Save_Waypoints_to_SD_on_HDS_Unit.pdf

Load Waypoints from MMC/SD Card on HDS Units
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/Load_Waypoints_From_SD_to_HDS_Unit.pdf


HDS Mapping Choices
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/HDS_Mapping_Choices.pdf

for more helpful hints check out this link too:
http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=282434

Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 03:12 PM

Can anyone tell me if:
When installing an LSS-1, the installation instructions state to run the yellow wire thru a switch. I was told that I could draw the power for the Yellow FROM the Yellow wire coming from the HDS7 mounted on the console. Is the Yellow wire coming from the HDS7 a constant 12v or is it momentary? If momentary, can I use that thru a relay to provide the 12v to the LSS-1? I want the LSS-1 to turn on with the HDS7 on the console ( interlinked with the HDS5 on the bow )!
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: RudyDep
Can anyone tell me if:
When installing an LSS-1, the installation instructions state to switch the yellow wire thru a switch. I was told that I could draw the power for the Yellow FROM the Yellow wire coming from the HDS7 mounted on the console. Is the Yellow wire coming from the HDS7 a constant 12v or is it momentary? If momentary, can I use that thru a relay to provide the 12v to the LSS-1? I want the LSS-1 to turn on with the HDS7 on the console ( interlinked with the HDS5 on the bow )!



You can hook up the yellow wire from the lss-1 box pwr cord to acc. switch from your console or tie it in with your yellow wire that comes off your pwr cord. The yellow wire is a remote pwr wire..when you unit is on its goes live. thus pwr up your lss-1.
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 03:41 PM

The yellow wire from my head unit is only signal voltage. It isnt constant. Should it be? Is something amiss here? (Unless ive got a bad connection, I guess I should check THAT out again).
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/11 04:03 PM





Networking HDS Models with NMEA2000
The Diagram below shows adding an external antenna, which is optional. If you are not hooking up an external antenna get rid of the extra Tee in the diagram.
Please note if you are only interested in waypoint sharing all you need to do is connect the two HDS units with an Ethernet cable. No NMEA Network is required unless you are using network sensors like temperature, fuel, interface cables or an external gps module.
The NMEA Network is totally expandable, just remove the terminator, add a Tee to plug in your new sensor and replace the terminator back on the new end. It's that easy!

Two HDS units Networked
* if you are still using an older LMS or LCX unit which is networked to an HDS unit it can still power the nmea network through its power cable. (HDS units can not do this) If you are switching to all HDS units you have to buy the NMEA Power node to power the network, shown in the diagram below







Some boats come pre-rigged withe NMEA2000 network backbone from the boat manufacturer and may use a Power Node to supply power the network. This Power Node is hooked directly into a Tee in the network bus. If your boat has one of these on the network DO NOT power the NMEA power wires from either graph (LCX and LMS). It is already done. Powering it twice will cause damage to the Module

Parts needed to network two HDS Models:

1) NMEA Starter kit: N2K-EXP-RD-2 (#124-69)
kit includes: Includes 2 terminating resistors (TR-120M-RD, TR-120F-RD),
two T-connectors (N2K-T-RD), one 2 ft extension cable (N2KEXT-2RD),
and one 15 ft extension cable (N2KEXT-15RD), and a power node (N2K-PWR-RD).
$51.99*

1) T connector, N2K-T-RD #119-79 $14.99







***Lowrance Reset Procedures***
The reset procedures below work with most newer LMS units, also with LCX and HDS units. If you want a pdf with reset procedures for all models go to Lowrance website and type in Lowrance Resets in the support page self help search field.

A reset usually clears up missing pages and menu items, it reorganizes the software when a problem occurs. It may correct gps connectivity problems as well as transducer problems. Always try the soft reset first and see if your problems are corrected before moving on to the hard reset.
Always shut down the unit with its own power button and never by unplugging it or disconnecting the power supply from the battery. This causes problems and is one of the main reasons resets are needed.

******Soft Reset****
Power unit down, press pages key and power key, hold keys until USA map appears. This will not delete waypoints or other user saved data.

******Hard Reset*****
This method will delete waypoints and trails so be sure to back them up first unless you have no choice.

Shut unit off, press Zoom in, Zoom out, and the power key, hold keys until USA map appears. Unit will reset to factory default, you will need to allow time for unit to reinitialize gps position. This may take up to a few minutes on the first gps position lock.

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Transferring Waypoints from HDS to Endura.
with pic's when click on the link.

http://www.lowrance.com/upload...a.pdf


Step 1: Insert a microSD card into a standard SD adapter, then place adapter into the card slot on your HDS unit. Press the Pages key and scroll to the utilities page, select Files and press Enter.
Step 3: Select the output format as GPX (GPS Exchange), this is the format that your Endura uses for all waypoints, trails, and routes.
Note: Endura units can only import .gpx files that are no larger than 3 MB each. To check the size of your data file on you HDS, highlight “Waypoints, Routes and Trails” and press menu and select details.
09/03/2010
Step 2: Highlight Waypoints, Routes and Trails and press Menu and select export.
Step 4: Select the memory card destination for the GPX file.
Step 5: Remove the microSD card from the SD adapter. Insert the microSD card with the HDS gpx file on it into the card slot on the bottom of the Endura unit.
Step 6:
The Endura will ask “Import GPX from Card?” Select “yes”. The Endura will then process the GPX file and add it to your onboard waypoint and trails list.* This may take a few minutes to process. Once this is complete, you can return your microSD card and SD adapter back to your HDS unit if you wish.
*The Endura will need to be power cycled off then back on for the waypoint data to appear in the unit.

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LSS-1 Light Codes


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Elite 5 series info:
Saving wpts and Transfer wpts on Elite 5 series.


1) From the Chart or Steer page:
a. Press the menu key
b. Scroll to Waypoints, Routes, Trails…
c. Press Enter
d. Press Menu
e. Select Save to card… or Load from card… (depending on desired function)
f. Press Enter
g. For Save to card…
i. User can rename the file or go with the default “Data”
ii. Select version
1. 3.0 includes waypoint depth, this is not compatible with GDM6 or MapCreate.
2. 2.0 does not include depth.
iii. Select save
iv. Press Enter.
h. For Load from card…
i. Select file from Card menu
ii. Press Enter
2) From any page:
a. Press the Menu key twice
b. Select Chart
c. Scroll to Waypoints, Routes, Trails…
d. Press Enter
e. Follow steps d-h above.

Screen shots on Elite 5:
The latest update, 2.8, added screen shot capability. (Insert writable microSD card and press “power” then “zoom +.”)

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/01/11 12:35 AM

Good link for the Lowrance Sonic Hub.


http://www.wired2fish.com/Boating-Talk--Adding-a-Little-Music-to-the-Mix-WhatsUp5410
Posted By: pepop

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/01/11 03:21 AM

May I jump in with another unit please? I have an Elite 5 and I've been looking the manual over quite a bit but haven't seen anything on recording or saving a sonar chart to my memory card. I have Ernest Paty's "Fishing Electronics 101" DVD which recomends taking saved sonar charts and "playing" them on a pc for study & interpretation. Does the Elite 5 have this function?
Posted By: Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/01/11 02:01 PM

Downscan is a Lowrance strength and I like that new 4.0 Blue Color.
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/01/11 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pepop
May I jump in with another unit please? I have an Elite 5 and I've been looking the manual over quite a bit but haven't seen anything on recording or saving a sonar chart to my memory card. I have Ernest Paty's "Fishing Electronics 101" DVD which recomends taking saved sonar charts and "playing" them on a pc for study & interpretation. Does the Elite 5 have this function?


The Elite 5 cannot do sonar logs, but it CAN take screen shots.
The latest update, 2.8, added screen shot capability.
(Insert writable microSD card and press “power” then “zoom +.”)

Posted By: H-D Dad

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/02/11 11:57 PM

Jason, thanks for all the help with the updates. No better way to get it, than have someone who knows what their doing, do it for you.
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/06/11 03:06 PM

So, if you're prospecting in 50 to 80 fow, what would be the appropriate range setting for side scan? Seems like the "auto" function wants to project the range too far to be able to see anything. Do you need to keep the bottom in view? Also, if you don't use the chart functions, are the 3.5 and 4.0 upgrades all that important?
Posted By: Robert Humphrey

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/11 05:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
The Elite 5 cannot do sonar logs, but it CAN take screen shots.
The latest update, 2.8, added screen shot capability.
(Insert writable microSD card and press “power” then “zoom +.”)


What about the Elite-5 DSI? Can it do sonar logs?
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/11 11:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert Humphrey
Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
The Elite 5 cannot do sonar logs, but it CAN take screen shots.
The latest update, 2.8, added screen shot capability.
(Insert writable microSD card and press “power” then “zoom +.”)


What about the Elite-5 DSI? Can it do sonar logs?


No it cannot do sonar logs, just screen shots.
Posted By: Robert Humphrey

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/11 11:11 PM

Figures since i just put the last screw in the transducer mount. I know it was a specific question i asked the salesperson over the weekend and was told it would. Now to decide whether or not to uninstall it and take it back or just keep it.
Posted By: Bluwave Mike

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/18/11 04:50 PM

Well I just went from a black and white Lowrance with no GPS to the new 8 inch with a 5 on the front. Going to put the boat in the water this afternoon. So I'm sure I will PM ing some of ya'll with questions. Good info here thank to all.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/26/11 01:59 PM

There are approximately 57 submerged bridges on Toledo Bend. Our new HDS units with side scan is allowing us to see things that one could only imagine before. Over the coming months, we will be sharing what we log on these bridges. The following bridge is our first.

Side scan view:


Down scan view:


Close up, look at the big school of fish just above the roadbed.

Posted By: HappyHooker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/28/11 11:21 PM

Nice images Bobby. Went out the first time with my new unit Sunday and was a little discouraged at what I wasn't seeing. Stumps off to the right of the boat did not show up at all, but went under a bridge and the pilings showed up very well. I'm sure I've got some more tweaking to do and the first thing was to change the xducer type from unknown to HST-wsbl. One thing that worries me is I've heard the structure and sonar transducers need to be mounted less than a foot apart. The dealer installed mine about 18 inches. Hope this won't affect my image quality. Any tips on tweaking the settings to get a clearer image?
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/11 12:03 PM

Happy

Like you, I was also discouraged my first couple of trips. Got to noticing that vertical objects had a slight curve to them. That can't be, so I got my digital level in the boat and measured the angle of the boat when traveling at 4-6 MPH. Got back on the trailor and adjusted the fore-to-aft angle of the side scan transducer so it would be level when moving at 4-6 MPH. Wow; big difference in image quality.

I don't think you will notice much difference with the transducers being 18" apart.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/11 07:06 PM

O.K fellas, Happy mentioned something I might need to know. Does the ducer have to be near the lss1? I was thinking of putting the lss1 on the jackplate and running it back there while I use trolling motor which has the US2 built in it. Please say it is not so.
Posted By: HappyHooker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/11 10:56 PM

Bobby

Never thought of that. I'm going out tommorrow and I just happen to have a digital level. I'll take my reading, of course this will be done after the morning bite slows smile trailer her and adjust boat angle with trailer jack to match my reading and adjust ducer as needed. Thanks for the tip!

Scout

I've heard the ducers need to be mounted as close as possible to each other. From what Bobby posted it seems to me like the farther apart they are the lower your image quality will be. Someone step in and correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/11 11:22 PM

I believe they only need to be close if you use the overlay
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/11 07:25 PM

Happy, if I lead you to think that the location of the sonar transducer had an effect on image quality of the side scan/down scan, I am sorry, it has no effect. The LSS transducer is independent and will give perfectly good pictures even with the sonar transducer unplugged from the back of your unit.

The only way that one can notice a discrepancy between the sonar image and side scan/down scan image is when you place them both on the screen side by side. If the two transducers are very far apart then one might be able to tell that one is leading or lagging the other. Since the sonar return signal is conical and the side scan/down scan is linear then there will always be some discrepancy even if the two transducers were very close to each other.

Hope this helps.
Posted By: trlrman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/11 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka stinkbait tom
I believe they only need to be close if you use the overlay
+1
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Another Toledo Bend bridge - 07/02/11 09:11 PM

I believe this was a temporaty wooden bridge used during the construction of Toledo Bend. One segment of the old concrete bridge is on the left.

Here it is again going in the opposite direction.


Same bridge in down scan.


Another image at 90 degrees. A magnum brushpile.


Down scan image at 90 degrees.

Posted By: HappyHooker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/04/11 06:09 AM

Thanks Bobby. I was confused. I thought the two worked together and the lss-1 module interpreted the data and created an image. Man I wish I could get my images looking that good. I can't see pilings from docks and and stumps off to the side of the boat but when I go under a bridge the pilings from it show up clear.
Posted By: bassndad

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/06/11 06:41 PM

Thinking about buying an HDS with structure scan, I currently have a lowrance 520 at the bow and 27c at console linked together. Would move 27c to bow and install hds unit at console with ssi. So questions are:

1) Can i use the current 83/200 transducer(blue connectors) in my bilge for the hds?
2) What type of connectivity or trading/sharing of info can occur between the hds unit and 27c?
3) Is it worth the price to jump from a bundled hds7 with ssi and purchase the hds 8 and then purchase the seperate ssi unit?

Thanks
Posted By: John Vogt

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/07/11 06:42 PM

1) Can i use the current 83/200 transducer(blue connectors) in my bilge for the hds?

Yes

2) What type of connectivity or trading/sharing of info can occur between the hds unit and 27c?

Good question....I know for sure that you can share waypoints

3) Is it worth the price to jump from a bundled hds7 with ssi and purchase the hds 8 and then purchase the seperate ssi unit?

You can purchase the HDS 7 and the LSS-1 cheaper as a bundle. If you are looking to have a second HDS unit, you will not need to purchase an additional LSS-1. The LSS-1 easily networks via ethernet with up to three HDS devices.

Hope this helps


Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/09/11 12:30 PM

This big pile of concrete and steel is the remnants of the old Pendelton Harbor bridge. I couldn't find much remaining of the main steel span but there was an additional 1500 feet like shown in the picture.

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/11/11 05:13 PM

Mike Iaconelli Lake Guntersville Roadbed. You tube video

http://youtu.be/pycTWTjoETw
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/11/11 10:57 PM

Hey Jason I bought a 7 bundle. Will the gauges (you know, the tach, fuel, etc.) work with a 99 Yamaha Vmax? If so where can I buy the cables?
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/11/11 11:16 PM

I would call Lowrance CS dept for that question. If so this part #..

Yamaha Engine Interface Cable - Red Part # 120-37 $79.95
Interface between a Yamaha engine and NMEA network to display engine data. Comes with a T connector. For use with red NMEA network.

Works with: NMEA 2000 Compliant Units

http://www.lei-extras.com/store/search.asp?SearchType=Category&Category=LowranceNET+Red
Posted By: HappyHooker

Re: Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/11/11 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
Mike Iaconelli Lake Guntersville Roadbed. You tube video

http://youtu.be/pycTWTjoETw


Thanks For the video Jason. Very informative
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Toledo Bend bridge #3 - 07/18/11 07:32 PM

Some posted this on Lowrance Facebook and I would like to share this awesome screen shot.




to see a bigger picture go to Lowrance FaceBook page.
https://www.facebook.com/Lowrance
Posted By: grout-scout

Couple of pics. - 07/19/11 12:33 AM

Not too many pics on here so I'll add a few for the fellas thinking about buying a new unit. The Lowrance is a plug and play unit with the di/si, there is no adjusting that has to be done to get good pics, just turn it on & go. The other brand requires fine tuning to get clear pics. (That's for the guys researching the units & trying to decide on a brand.)

Whats under your boat?


Down deep!


Rockpile with side imaging.


Same rockpile downscan.


Roadbed while lake was being built?


Same roadbed with the downscan and the thermocline..

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/26/11 03:46 PM

Side scan of feeding cormorants.


Down scan of cormorants above. Look at the school of fish they are going after.

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/02/11 11:46 PM

The GPS refresh rates on Lowrance HDS units come from the factory with a default “auto” setting. This auto setting adjusts the GPS refresh rate based on your speed. Some settings work pretty well from the factory, but this is not one of them. If you’re speeding down the lake, the refresh rate is fast. If you’re idling slowly down a ledge, the refresh rate is very slow and does not update the micro movements. This causes serious update delays… causing your unit to live in the past. If precise boat positioning is important to you — and it should be — you want real time updates.

The best way to get around these slow refresh rates is by going into the “Waypoints, Routes, and Trails menu.

1) Press “Page”

2) Press the right arrow on the cursor pad to scroll over to “Waypoints, Routes and Trails”

3) Use the arrows to select “trails” and hit the “menu” button.

4) Use the cursor pad to highlight settings, then press the enter button

5) Change the “logging type” to “Time”

6) Finally, set the time to “1 sec”. Press close and exit out.
Posted By: blueball

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/03/11 02:30 AM

thanks for the tip jason,mine were on auto,i planned on buying the 4000 antenna when i bought my 2 hds-7 and 2 lss-1 units,but am very pleased with the internal.
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/03/11 03:46 PM

Thanks Jason, i'll check/change that setting on both of mine this evening! Totally unaware of this! Thanks for the help with my LSS-1. I changed out the power cable and everything is working fine. You're awsome!
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/04/11 04:00 PM

Can you tell me how to input gps coordinates directly into the HDS7? I have someone that is willing to share some waypoints with me and is giving me the coordinates. Ill need to input them so I can find some fish!!!
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/05/11 09:24 PM

I have recently bought and HDS 7. bannana2 I am wanting to play with my new toy, adjust settings and screens etc. Is there a way I can do this between trips to the lake while in my garage?
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/11 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: TX Fish'n Fool
I have recently bought and HDS 7. bannana2 I am wanting to play with my new toy, adjust settings and screens etc. Is there a way I can do this between trips to the lake while in my garage?


Just sit down in your boat, turn your unit on then start playing. You don't need a GPS signal or a transducer signal.

A much "cooler' way is to get a 120/12 volt converter with a power connector and do your playing in the house.

Don't forget there is a simulator mode that is very handy for this sort of thing.
Posted By: JakeG

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/11 06:22 PM

Hi everyone,

I have an HDS 5. Does anyone know how I can track my movements on the GPS screen? For example, if I drive into a cove, I want a line trailing the arrow on the GPS screen to show exactly where I just drove. When I first got the unit, I'm pretty sure it had this function on, but somehow I turned it off, and I can't get it back.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/11 07:42 PM

Jake start a new trail and while on that screen you will see the option to record trail, click on that bubble. At least I think thats how I got mine to show track.
Posted By: JakeG

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/07/11 01:49 AM

Thanks, Grout-Scout! I haven't been able to try it, yet, but I was reading one of the previous posts, and it mentioned to make sure the "display" button was selected when I started a trail, also. Hopefully, it will work next time.
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 04:32 PM

Ok guys, the info on this thread has helped me a ton. I have just a couple other questions however.

1) How do you get the screen to follow the boat when running down the lake? Mine just stays at one spot all the time and if that last spot happens to be across the state well so be it. Is it a GPS problem or a setting?

2) How do you take a screen shot picture? I can figure out how to record my graph and SI or DI. I just don't see a place to take a screen shot.

3) Is there a special SD card needed to record that stuff?

4) When you have SI, DI and Sonar all up can you rearrange the panels? I have an HDS 7 and sonar is at top left, DI is at top right and SI is on the bottom. I want to arrange them so that SI is left, DI is top right and Sonar is bottom right.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 06:32 PM

If I am wrong please feel free to correct me!

1. Push the exit button, don't know why but when it quits following push it and it'll change to follow screen. You have to have the gps screen as the selected screen for the exit to work, meaning if you have split screens up, you'll have to "hold pages" option to get to the gps screen. Confused yet? It's hard to explain in writing!

2. There is a option on one of the menu pages that says "screen capture", mark that bubble on. Then when you want to take a pic push the power button one time (do not hold it down), just push it once. It'll take a sec and then say screen captured. To find the pic go through the pages menu to the info page and at the bottom you will see files, go there to see saved info.

3. I just use a 2gb sd card and it'll record like 24 hours so I have no need for a larger card.

4. I don't think so because I have tried like the dickens to change mine, but you can edit the size of every panel.
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 07:05 PM

Thanks scout,

I appreciate the help! cheers
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 09:00 PM

Good answers grout

On the #4 question: Go to 'pages' then start with the page you want on the left side (sonar, structure or chart) then scroll down the menu to make your choice of what you want on the right.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Many many fish on this bridge. - 08/08/11 09:37 PM

Here's another Toledo Bend bridge that's "MAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A BRIDGE THERE", very few people know it exists, even longtime locals like myself. So many fish.



I'm guessing the fish are crappie, but not sure.



Look at the shadows of the fish.


Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 09:45 PM

Google "Lowrance HDS ScreenShots," and you can pull up an illustrated guide to taking screen shots, including pics of the various menus, on the "Doc. Samson" site.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 09:51 PM

Holy son of a crappie that is a herd of fishies there Bobby!

Do you know if anybody has hit that bad boy with their motor during low water periods? When Falcon gets real low there is a bridge that's sunk a few boats. scared
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 10:11 PM

Bobby,
coolphotos Just for safety reasons I think you should put some GPS coordinates on these pics. grin

Just kiddin man! Thanks for the help.
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/08/11 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Bobby Feazel
Good answers grout

On the #4 question: Go to 'pages' then start with the page you want on the left side (sonar, structure or chart) then scroll down the menu to make your choice of what you want on the right.


For some reason when you do that on an HDS 7 it put things on top and bottom instead of the left and right. I guess it is just an HDS 7 thing. I am sure it has something to do with the size of the screen.
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
If I am wrong please feel free to correct me!

2. There is a option on one of the menu pages that says "screen capture", mark that bubble on. Then when you want to take a pic push the power button one time (do not hold it down), just push it once. It'll take a sec and then say screen captured. To find the pic go through the pages menu to the info page and at the bottom you will see files, go there to see saved info.


I have an add on question to this. I have my mapping card in my HDS, can I still take a screen shot and have it saved, or do I have to remove my map card and put in a blank card to take screen shots?
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 01:38 PM

screen capture goes on the head unit then you can transfer it to a card
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Dayne
screen capture goes on the head unit then you can transfer it to a card

Thanks!
Posted By: BoomBoom

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
The GPS refresh rates on Lowrance HDS units come from the factory with a default “auto” setting. This auto setting adjusts the GPS refresh rate based on your speed. Some settings work pretty well from the factory, but this is not one of them. If you’re speeding down the lake, the refresh rate is fast. If you’re idling slowly down a ledge, the refresh rate is very slow and does not update the micro movements. This causes serious update delays… causing your unit to live in the past. If precise boat positioning is important to you — and it should be — you want real time updates.

The best way to get around these slow refresh rates is by going into the “Waypoints, Routes, and Trails menu.

1) Press “Page”

2) Press the right arrow on the cursor pad to scroll over to “Waypoints, Routes and Trails”

3) Use the arrows to select “trails” and hit the “menu” button.

4) Use the cursor pad to highlight settings, then press the enter button

5) Change the “logging type” to “Time”

6) Finally, set the time to “1 sec”. Press close and exit out.


Jason, what if you have an LGC 4000 antenna? Is this just for the internal antennas found on the units?
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: TX Fish'n Fool
Bobby,
coolphotos Just for safety reasons I think you should put some GPS coordinates on these pics. grin

Just kiddin man! Thanks for the help.


LOL!!! blush I just realize that you do!

Those GPS coords would be on the maps you sell. My bad man. I guess I should pay a little closer attention! hammer
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/11 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: parttime
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
If I am wrong please feel free to correct me!

2. There is a option on one of the menu pages that says "screen capture", mark that bubble on. Then when you want to take a pic push the power button one time (do not hold it down), just push it once. It'll take a sec and then say screen captured. To find the pic go through the pages menu to the info page and at the bottom you will see files, go there to see saved info.


I have an add on question to this. I have my mapping card in my HDS, can I still take a screen shot and have it saved, or do I have to remove my map card and put in a blank card to take screen shots?


Good question and Dayne gave the correct answer. But for any other new users here is some more info on recording on the unit. If you have a blank sd card in the unit you can record your: si, di, & 2d to either the blank card or to internal memory. If running a map card you will have to make sure it's to internal. That's for the 5 & 7, not sure how it works on the 8 & 10 since they have 2 slots. Anybody have any more pics?
Posted By: Bluwave Mike

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 04:25 AM

Good info guys. I have had mine about 6 weeks now and havent trired to save pics yet.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
... for any other new users here is some more info on recording on the unit. If you have a blank sd card in the unit you can record your: si, di, & 2d to either the blank card or to internal memory. If running a map card you will have to make sure it's to internal. That's for the 5 & 7, not sure how it works on the 8 & 10 since they have 2 slots. Anybody have any more pics?


A little more on sonar logging: If you log to the head you won't get much time before it fills up the memory so you really should have a card dedicated to logging info if you are going to do much of it.

I run hds8s and keep the map card in slot 2. I have a dedicated card for each unit which I keep in at all times and usually start a recording when I hit the water. I watch them to see what I have missed during the day.

I like to play them back in the boat using the simulator where I can get 2d, down, side and the chart at the same time. If I see some good rocks or brush piles I can look on the chart to see if I have a wpt. If not, then I can mark it for the next time I am on that lake.


Here is what I assume to be a big cat that swam under my boat one day.

Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 02:17 PM

Jeeze Louise...I LOVE that downscan!!! Now if you could only get it to bite!!! Thats a horse of a different color!
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 03:52 PM

Rudy I also had some paddle fish swim under the boat that day. Here is a pic of one of them.


Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 04:05 PM

Dang! Ive seen those up close and personal when I lived in Sydney, Mt. Yellowstone River GIANTS!
Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 05:11 PM

with the hds-5 for an external gps antenna do you have to use lgc-4000 or will the lgc-3000 and if it will work is there adiffrince
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 05:54 PM

My HDS units both have internal antennae. Cant help you turbo!
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 06:07 PM

Toledo Bend Bridge


[img]http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/cajunslo/TBBridge3.gif?t=1312999212[img]

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Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 06:11 PM

Same Bridge

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[img]http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/cajunslo/Bridge3.gif?t=1312999356[img]

[img]http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/cajunslo/Bridge2.gif?t=1312999420[img]

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http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/cajunslo/Bridge1.gif?t=1312999451[img]
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: turbo2nr
with the hds-5 for an external gps antenna do you have to use lgc-4000 or will the lgc-3000 and if it will work is there adiffrince


The 3000 will reset at 1 second intervals like your head units. I had one and didn't like it.

The 4000 updates 5X per second. I have only used it a couple of times but it seems to be better.
Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: RudyDep
My HDS units both have internal antennae. Cant help you turbo!

mine has internal also but they only update 1 time per second i was looking to update 5x per second

Originally Posted By: Dayne
Originally Posted By: turbo2nr
with the hds-5 for an external gps antenna do you have to use lgc-4000 or will the lgc-3000 and if it will work is there adiffrince


The 3000 will reset at 1 second intervals like your head units. I had one and didn't like it.

The 4000 updates 5X per second. I have only used it a couple of times but it seems to be better.

thanks that's just what i needed to know
Posted By: mossjer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 08:41 PM

Not sure if this is a Lowrance or Navionics question. I have an HDS7 on the GPS screen in certain spots on the lake it shows a circle of dots. I have know idea what this is. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/11 10:27 PM

Cajunslo

As you might suspect, I know exactly where that bridge is located.

The bridge is definitely flat and not curved as your pictures show: have you ever wondered why it shows curved?

In a few days (on this thread), I will try to explain why with some 'technical' stuff. My intention is to help anyone that is new to this side scan technology.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/11/11 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Bobby Feazel
Cajunslo

As you might suspect, I know exactly where that bridge is located.

The bridge is definitely flat and not curved as your pictures show: have you ever wondered why it shows curved?

In a few days (on this thread), I will try to explain why with some 'technical' stuff. My intention is to help anyone that is new to this side scan technology.



popcorn

popcorn2
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/11/11 08:49 AM

I was going along the other day past some large floating docks, and started seeing some thin, oblong lines on Downscan, extending up from the bottom and back down. Took me a while to figure out these pretty well had to be cables running from the docks to the bed of the lake.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/11/11 08:07 PM

No, I did not think it was flat, I sure can use all the help you have to offer. And yes I figured you knew where this particular bridge was located, its pretty well known. I will be headed up to TB tomorrow on the south end to try and locate bridges, etc. I enjoy taking sonar logs and reviewing later as much as I do fishing. I just updated my Navionics Platium card and there or alot more bridges showing now, or I just never paid that much attention. I am sure alot of them or gone, but its still fun to look for them. Again i appreciated any help or advice on scanning and logging, etc.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/11/11 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: Bobby Feazel
Cajunslo

As you might suspect, I know exactly where that bridge is located.

The bridge is definitely flat and not curved as your pictures show: have you ever wondered why it shows curved?

In a few days (on this thread), I will try to explain why with some 'technical' stuff. My intention is to help anyone that is new to this side scan technology.



popcorn

popcorn2


popcorn popcorn

Bobby, why doesn't pvc show up with si/di? Or does anybody else know the answer? I made the most beautiful fish houses and dagnabit they don't show up bang.


Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/11/11 08:55 PM

They will show up if you are tuned in correctly.

Possible solutions: Decrease your scan distance to about 40' and make sure you are passing close to your waypoint. The broader your scan distance, the smaller objects appear.

One of the biggest issues I see with a lack of clariety is the fact that the LSS transducer is not exactly parallel with the water surface while scanning (4-6 MPH).

See my post in the early part of this thread for an explaniation.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/12/11 01:58 PM

grout I read where Doc Samson suggested switching SI frequencies when is shallow water. If your hotels are shallow you might give it a try.

Yesterday I was looking for some wood pallets that a guy tied together along the bank when Pomme de Terre was 5' low. I couldn't see them until I switched frequencies then I was able to pick out their shadows as I passed them.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/12/11 05:16 PM

They are in 27 ft of water and I'll try it guys but I'm not sure it'll work, I was running 800mhz. I can get them on 2d but they didn't show up on si or di hmmm. It seems like I heard someone else say something about the density being not thick enough or something to that extent. I guess in reality it's better if they don't show up for everybody else. I need to check out this Doc Samson, seems I hear his name quite a bit.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/12/11 08:54 PM

Not trying to play expert here, just wanted to pass along information that may help other TFF's.







Hope it helped.
Bobby


Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/12/11 09:36 PM

Thanks Bobby, that is good info to know for future reference. I never would have thought that bridge was flat and it makes sense after you explained it cheers. Hey Bobby are the lake maps your have linked to the same ones Bass Pro is selling (san antonio, anyways)? They are about the same price and the fella at the register couldn't tell me much about them.

Keep up the good work fellas!
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 01:09 AM

Bobby,

I just want to make sure I understand this so I catch it when I do it out on the water. This may seem a little elementary for some, if so I apologize.

Lets say I record a pass by a bridge and when I get home I want to review it. I can turn on the range lines and use those to show how you were close to the object and then drifted farther away or closer to it causing the curved look. And if you see that you stayed the same distance away from the object the whole time but the object still looks curved then odds are it is curved.

Does this sound right?
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 01:13 AM

I have one other question.

If I run my cursor over the bridge (where the red dots are) and set way points, will they appear in a straight line (sense the bridge is straight) on my chart?


Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Thanks Bobby, that is good info to know for future reference. I never would have thought that bridge was flat and it makes sense after you explained it cheers. Hey Bobby are the lake maps your have linked to the same ones Bass Pro is selling (san antonio, anyways)? They are about the same price and the fella at the register couldn't tell me much about them.

Keep up the good work fellas!


Yes, with very limited selection.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: TX Fish'n Fool
Bobby,

I just want to make sure I understand this so I catch it when I do it out on the water. This may seem a little elementary for some, if so I apologize.

Lets say I record a pass by a bridge and when I get home I want to review it. I can turn on the range lines and use those to show how you were close to the object and then drifted farther away or closer to it causing the curved look. And if you see that you stayed the same distance away from the object the whole time but the object still looks curved then odds are it is curved.

Does this sound right?


Assuming that your 'curved object' is uniform - such as a bridge, then if you stayed the same distance from it, it would show straight. The opposite effect of a straight object appearing curved.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: TX Fish'n Fool
I have one other question.

If I run my cursor over the bridge (where the red dots are) and set way points, will they appear in a straight line (sense the bridge is straight) on my chart?


Very good question and I am not sure I am the right person to answer it because I am still having some concerns about the accuracy of setting waypoints as you show.

Until someone gives me a better understanding than what I have learned on my own, I will not use the DI to set waypoints. They will probably get you in the ball park but there is too much horizontal information compressed into the DI from the SI data.

At this point in my learning curve, I will stick with the SI to set my waypoints and expect them to be reasonably accurate.

FYI: DO NOT pull coordinates from your SonarViewer and expect them to be accurate.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/11 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Bobby Feazel
[quote=TX Fish'n Fool]
FYI: DO NOT pull coordinates from your SonarViewer and expect them to be accurate.


I totally agree with this statement. I look at the sonar viewer to get a better feel for what I have been fishing but for marking wpts of stuff I have missed, I like to record all channels then every once in a while stop the recording, pull out into the lake, and review the recording with a 4 screen simulation. That way I can have a good look at everything and mark anything that I missed while fishing.
Posted By: RangerJT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/19/11 01:11 AM

Can I get that cool blue color with the 4.0 update?
Posted By: Lonestar Proud

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/19/11 02:28 AM

Originally Posted By: RangerJT
Can I get that cool blue color with the 4.0 update?


Yes you can, just download the new update.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/20/11 04:29 PM

A few new bridges thanks to Bobby Feazel and his mapping chip.









The chase was on!!




Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/20/11 04:40 PM

Here are a couple of more shots, need ideas on what is causing the distortion on the left side of my side scan. You can see the vertical lines from the top of the water column and also the scan quality between the right and left side.

I posted a picture of a lss transducer setup on a jackplate with transducer shield. My set up is the same.

I have a Skeeter ZX 225 and the transducer is mounted on the right side. 2010 model.




Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/20/11 08:53 PM

GREAT shots of the 'chase'. I am envious.

Your lines are definitely interference which is probably coming from the left side of your jack plate.

Check to see if the transducer is parallel to the bottom of the jack plate (side-to-side not front-to-back). If it is you may have to lower it a bit.

BTW: since you have the transducer mounted 180 degrees from the default position, have you flipped left to right?

Also BTW: did you notice the square hole in the deck of the bridge?
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/20/11 10:53 PM

Thanks, the more time I spend on the water, and reading TFF and other forums the better my results. However I have to admit I find more after viewing my recordings on SLV.

I will check my transducer.

Yes I did flip my transducer position.

Yes I did notice the square hole !
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/21/11 06:05 PM

Anyone know what the maroon squares represent. This is from Navionics Platium chip with the latest updates. Toledo Bend.



Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/21/11 09:03 PM

Building foundations.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/21/11 10:38 PM

Great, now you just gave me another 100+ things I will have to try and find and record, ha ha !! Any chance some of these or on your chip already?

Sorry, that might seem like a crazy question, I don't remember having these before, and I just did a software update on my Navonics chip, and did not get to test it until my last trip to TB and that was after I loaded your map chip.

I also did not notice them on the water. It wasn't until I got back and was double checking things on my Navplanner2 with my Navionics chip is when I noticed them.
Posted By: James Tucker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/11 11:01 AM

Just added the LSS1 to my HDS 7. Found tons on structure I did not know was there with the side scan. My downscan looks pretty "empty" for the most part. It is picking up fish and shad but not much structure.

Does the new update change anything with your 2D sonar? My screen looks much different than it did before the update. I am not picking up nearly as much "junk" returns. But I am also not picking up as much shad with 2D. My downscan picks up the bait, and I confirmed it with cast net.
Posted By: Lou r Pitcher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/11 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: cajunslo
Here are a couple of more shots, need ideas on what is causing the distortion on the left side of my side scan. You can see the vertical lines from the top of the water column and also the scan quality between the right and left side.


Cajunslo,

The series or rows of close straight lines parallel to your center line direction of travel are echoes causes by hard reflections possibly from the jac plate's large opposite side wall reflecting sonar energy. It can likely be greatly reduced by a splash plate installed across the bottom of the jackplate just above the horizontal plane of the transducer. Also the rigid mounted shield saver can make the problem worse coupling the transducer rigidly to the Jackplate and motor. The simple pivoting supplied lowrance mount is less physically coupled to the plate and better hides the false echo lines seen below..

When you eliminate the false echos, the remainder of the left side image will be able to be better filtered and processed giving it similar quality to what you see on the right images .The right side also is showing false vertical lines at but they are less severe.







Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/11 01:26 PM

[quote=cajunslo]Here are a couple of more shots, need ideas on what is causing the distortion on the left side of my side scan. You can see the vertical lines from the top of the water column and also the scan quality between the right and left side.

I posted a picture of a lss transducer setup on a jackplate with transducer shield. My set up is the same.

I have a Skeeter ZX 225 and the transducer is mounted on the right side. 2010 model.

*******************************************************
In addition to Lou r Pitchers suggestion about the hole-shot plate, Transducershield recommends adding an extender plate to most Skeeter, Bullet installs due to possible interference from the sponsons. The extender adds 4" of drop to your LSS-1 transducer.

Brian
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/11 03:02 PM

Thanks for the reply's. I think the transducer extension would be cheaper of the two, I really don't have an issue with my hole shot, so it would be easier and probably fix my issue.

Does transducer shield sell the extension, or do you supply them at your place ?
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/11 05:12 PM

I do carry the extension but I need to make a correction...it lowers the transducer 2 inches not 4 inches as I stated earlier. Give me a call if you would like to order.

Brian
Posted By: Lou r Pitcher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/23/11 03:08 PM

I'm just another sonar user, but am a licensed radar engineer which seems to help interpret my graphs. ....The nagging sonar echos you have do not have a signature indicative of a problem caused by a Skeeter boat hull or "sponsons".... They clearly show reflections though of a hard sided box such as a jackplate. You can actually measure the size of the jackplate by examining the space between the echo lines as sonar repeatedly gets reflected between the hard sides of the jackplate.

Lowering the transducer 2 inches should help a little, but I suspect the jackplate echos will still be prominant. The company's Skeeter excuse to lower and change the mount does not support the data within your graph. A plate, even an inexpensive homemade piece of plywood Or wife's cookie sheet temporarily bungicorded strapped across the bottom of the jackplate should confirm to you if the open jackplate is source of your echos.


Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/24/11 01:44 AM

The dark images on the left side of the screen are indicative of the beam being partially blocked. On transom mounts where no jackplate is used, you will see this happen when the motor is trimmed too far down.

I'm sure Scap/Transducershield came to the same conclusion when Skeeter customers were complaining of dark images on their Jackplate mounts. That's why they came up with the extender plate which helped resolve the problem.

The hole-shot plate does resolve the echo effect within the jackplate but the dark images aren't necessarily related.

Brian
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/24/11 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Fish Hauler's Guide Service
Just added the LSS1 to my HDS 7. Found tons on structure I did not know was there with the side scan. My downscan looks pretty "empty" for the most part. It is picking up fish and shad but not much structure.

Does the new update change anything with your 2D sonar? My screen looks much different than it did before the update. I am not picking up nearly as much "junk" returns. But I am also not picking up as much shad with 2D. My downscan picks up the bait, and I confirmed it with cast net.


From all that Ive read, your Xducer is probably not level with the bottom. Is this happening while you are idling along or sitting still? Recheck the level of the Xducer.
Oh, and YES, the 4.0 update is supposed to clean up the sonar in 2d as well.
Sonar Improvements
• Multiple improvements in sonar processing resulting in
better overall sonar performance including:
– Less interference from trolling motors
– Improved noise rejection overall
– Faster high speed run recovery
– Improved depth auto ranging in shallow water
• Improvements are embedded
– No adjustments required by user to gain benefits"
Posted By: James Tucker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/11 05:00 PM

Well, found out it cleaned it up too much.

I did soft reset on my HDS 7 and it took me back to set up wizard. When everything came up the 2D was much closer to what it was before the 4.0 instal. Changed the contrast settings on my downscan and it is much better now as well.

Transducer was level. No need to recheck. While moving at both 3mph and 6mph I made a small mark with a permanent marker at the waterline on the front and back of boat. I made a midpoint between two marks up front (1.5" apart) and a midpoint between back 2 marks (1/4" apart). I popped a chalk line and made it level by adjusting the jack on trailer. Then I installed the StructureScan transducer level with bottom of boat and perfectly level.

I figure that is probably as close as I can get, right?
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/11 10:17 PM

Ok, Lowered the LSS1 transducer about 2". Went out on local lake and did some testing.
The vertical lines are diffently worse at slower speeds. They will go away at around 4-5 SOG. Still have some prop wash. Now I guess I will have to get a hole shot plate to see if i can record at slower normal speeds without this problem.

Transducer Normal


Transducer with Extension



Transition from 4-5 SOG to 1-2 SOG


Moving at 4-5 SOG



Transition from 1-2 SOG to 4-5 SOG



I think I agree with Lou r Pitcher, that its a jack plate issue.


Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/11 10:52 PM

I've got the same set up as you do, only I'm sticking with the 3.0 "upgrade." I leveled both transducers by eyeballing them, and I've never seen a "baitball" on downscan that I didn't see on 2d, and I'm seeing about 10 times more bait on Canyon than I could see on my old Eagle 480. But that 2d tries to show too much. I have to tone it down by adjusting the sensitivity. You have a range of "minus" and "plus" settings available while keeping it on "auto." Only thing, seems like when you get it right for one depth or speed, it won't seem right for others. I guess you've played around with ping speed and whatnot.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/11 11:25 PM

I don't know Cajun, I am using the cheap factory bracket on my jackplate (which is much higher than yours). Heres my pics at ldle speed (3-4)with a Skeeter 12" jackplate.


And a pic at trolling motor speed (2-3)


I'm wondering if maybe you are getting interference?
Posted By: James Tucker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/11 11:35 PM

Originally Posted By: duff1
I've got the same set up as you do, only I'm sticking with the 3.0 "upgrade." I leveled both transducers by eyeballing them, and I've never seen a "baitball" on downscan that I didn't see on 2d, and I'm seeing about 10 times more bait on Canyon than I could see on my old Eagle 480. But that 2d tries to show too much. I have to tone it down by adjusting the sensitivity. You have a range of "minus" and "plus" settings available while keeping it on "auto." Only thing, seems like when you get it right for one depth or speed, it won't seem right for others. I guess you've played around with ping speed and whatnot.

I had my 2D set perfect before the upgrade. It tries to "filter" your 2D down so much that you have a hard time telling difference between surface clutter and scattered bait. Now it is almost back to the way it was before (both shallow water mode.)
I have sens. at 78, CL at 76, Surface clar LOW, and Noise Reject OFF. Before all was same except sens. was 70 and surface clar was MED
Posted By: RangerJT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 02:28 AM

Just updated my hds 10 to 4.0......did I mess up? Should I have left it alone?
Posted By: James Tucker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 10:53 AM

It is a good update. PM or call me if you have any problems with your 2D. I was on phone with Lowrance when I fixed mine.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 12:20 PM

I was trying to fix one problem before attempting to go back to 4.0. When I upgraded to 4.0 I had way too much screen clutter. I went back to 3.5 and that helped 100% with the clutter. Now working on the vertical lines. I hope to go back to the 4.0 once Lowrance works out all the issues. I worked with my surface clarity yesterday and noise reduction. I had to leave my surface clarity off, if i used any other setting my left side of the screen would turn darker with each setting until it went completly dark with high. I could not see any bottom features. Hopefully enough off us will keep testing and figure this out and can share the answers.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 12:29 PM

Grout Scout - it appears you have some of the same vertical lines on your first picture, it actually looks like you did change speeds because the very beginnig of the first picture there or no lines, then the lines appear as you slow down. Not at noticable as mine. But it looks like your set to scan out 60+ and I was scanning for the part at around 20-25, the lake was only 15', anything over 40' scan and the screen would go dark halfway out. Did i interpert your picture correctly or not!!
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 12:50 PM

4.0 software did not effect the lss-1 sonar. try taking out of auto range on left and right scan and keep down scan in auto..

I like run my left and right scan around 80-100ft and i used 800khz
Posted By: Lou r Pitcher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: cajunslo
Grout Scout - it appears you have some of the same vertical lines on your first picture, it actually looks like you did change speeds because the very beginnig of the first picture there or no lines, then the lines appear as you slow down. Not at noticable as mine. But it looks like your set to scan out 60+ and I was scanning for the part at around 20-25, the lake was only 15', anything over 40' scan and the screen would go dark halfway out. Did i interpert your picture correctly or not!!


I see about 8 sonar bounces on cajunslo's jackplate and on groutscouts sonar about 6 multiple sonar bounces inside his jackplate and both jackplates echos show the jackplates measure just about the same size and the ducer is mounted about the same distances from the opening of the jackplate. ..... So very similar setups. Rather than a speed change, I see groutscouts unit likely changed its sonar strength or filtering automatically as he moved from one depth to a different depth and the jackplate echoes changed in visibility as the depths changed.
Both units can be helped with 1) a holeshot plate or 2) by taking out of auto you can hide most of the echo problemBut will be likely giving up some of the capability and optimum performance.



Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 07:06 PM

Jason, My last screen shot the sidescan and downscan were in manual. I did change scanning range a couple of times but this did not help with the lines.

I recieved a call from Scap today, he is working with me and sent me pictures to take measurments. He said he will fix my problem with another L-Bracket and will build me a hole shot plate if that dosn't work, either way he attitude was 100% customer satisfaction and fixing the problem !!!

After talking to him on the phone I know now why so many recommended him.
Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 10:23 PM

cajunslo

I think Scap has you on the right track.

My team partner and I had the same problem on his Skeeter. Our solution was to place the transducer mid-way between the two jack plate sides as low as we could get it. (Yea, I know; we all hate to drill holes in the transom but he chose to do that rather than install a hole-shot plate.)

Bottom line, this move solved his interference problems.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/11 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Lou r Pitcher
Originally Posted By: cajunslo
Grout Scout - it appears you have some of the same vertical lines on your first picture, it actually looks like you did change speeds because the very beginnig of the first picture there or no lines, then the lines appear as you slow down. Not at noticable as mine. But it looks like your set to scan out 60+ and I was scanning for the part at around 20-25, the lake was only 15', anything over 40' scan and the screen would go dark halfway out. Did i interpert your picture correctly or not!!


I see about 8 sonar bounces on cajunslo's jackplate and on groutscouts sonar about 6 multiple sonar bounces inside his jackplate and both jackplates echos show the jackplates measure just about the same size and the ducer is mounted about the same distances from the opening of the jackplate. ..... So very similar setups. Rather than a speed change, I see groutscouts unit likely changed its sonar strength or filtering automatically as he moved from one depth to a different depth and the jackplate echoes changed in visibility as the depths changed.
Both units can be helped with 1) a holeshot plate or 2) by taking out of auto you can hide most of the echo problemBut will be likely giving up some of the capability and optimum performance.




I think you are right all the way, I first thought my ducer was higher but after looking closer it's about the same as Cajuns (except mines inside the jackplate which must be why I have less lines). Never sped up since I was in a idle only area. How in the world does the ducer shoot up into the jackplate? Does this little bit of interference really bother anything? All I care about is whats on bottom.
Posted By: Lou r Pitcher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/11 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout

I think you are right all the way, I first thought my ducer was higher but after looking closer it's about the same as Cajuns (except mines inside the jackplate which must be why I have less lines). Never sped up since I was in a idle only area. How in the world does the ducer shoot up into the jackplate? Does this little bit of interference really bother anything? All I care about is whats on bottom.


While the Structurescan or Si sonar may be designed to shoot out to the sides and listen for echos coming only from 180 degrees below the plane, the signals are a wave pattern and energy leaks above the intended plane and the echos as well reflect energy back to the transducer.

The" little bit of jackplate interference" represents a significant amount of energy and signal. False echos appear to especially affect the unit's digital filtering and also the "auto" settings needed to optimize the intended details in the signal display. "Auto" is important and needs to work if you are not constantly fiddling with the controls.

The hole shot plate will reflect most of the pinged burst of errant energy away from the transducer and eliminate signals bouncing back and forth on the interior walls of the jacplate.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/11 02:20 AM

Thanks, so I need a holeshot plate for the best results/performance bang. Any idea how much they run? Yeah, yeah, I know I could google it but that'd be too easy.
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/11 06:10 PM

About $60 bucks
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/11 07:30 PM

Hey G/S...I wonder if we can find someone locally to make one. I need one too!!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/11 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: RudyDep
Hey G/S...I wonder if we can find someone locally to make one. I need one too!!


O.K so does anybody around San Antonio know who works with aluminum? I asked my dealer here (Boerne Marine) about them once and they were clueless.
Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/11 08:02 PM

try noribilt its a car shop but they do aluminum fab
http://sanantonioimports.com/forumdisplay.php?f=230
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/11 08:36 PM

Ive got a place closer that Im going to call...it might be cheaper to buy one of the net.
Posted By: tajitrump

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/03/11 08:14 PM

Just added a 2nd HDS-5 with structure scan and used the network cable.

My front HDS-5 reads the structure scan transducer mounted on the transome very nicely. How do I keep the structure scan networked and read the sonar transducer from the head of my Terrova trolling motor into the front HDS-5? The Terrova is equiped with US2 and is hooked up. For some reason it wants to read the sonar transducer located on my transom.
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/04/11 12:54 AM

just go into your menu's and uncheck net work sonar, on of your units.
Posted By: tajitrump

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/05/11 12:06 PM

Any idea where you find that menu at?
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/05/11 05:20 PM


See if this helps.
Copied from another forum

Sharing Transducers temps.

HDS settings when using Network Sonar

Network sonar enables Multiple HDS units to share a single sonar source, or to change all units in the network from source to source. There are a few settings that need to be changed so that network sonar does not change where the unit is looking for its sonar overlay data (depth/temperature). With network sonar enabled you are only able to display one set of sonar data at a time, if you wish to show the depths and temperatures from different transducers network sonar must be turned off. *Running two transducers at the same time can cause cross talk interference.
There are two ways to network HDS units and use Network Sonar:
• Ethernet only: Allows sonar data to be shared only while network sonar is enabled. When network sonar is enabled on both units you will only be able to use one sonar source (data from one transducer) at a time.
• Ethernet and NMEA2000: Allows sonar data to be shared via network sonar. Also allows sonar overlay data to be shared via NMEA2000 network when network sonar is disabled. (Can show temp from one unit on another)
To enable/disable Network Sonar:
Menu>Menu>Sonar>Network sonar. (This dot must be highlighted in both units before network sonar will function. To disable it only has to be turned off on one of the two units.)


Setting the Temp and Depth source:
Setting the temp and depth source will allow the unit to display the active sonar data while network sonar is enabled and to display its own data when network sonar is disabled.
Menu>Menu>Network>Data sources…>Sonar>Water temperature>Menu>Scope>Local
Then set the active source as HDS-# Sonar [This Device]
This must be performed on at least one of the two HDS in a network; it can be done to both.
Follow the same procedure for Depth.

Data Source Selection menu when networked with Ethernet and NMEA2000.


Data Source Selection menu when networked with only Ethernet.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/08/11 12:09 AM

FYI - Contacted Lowrance customer service today, for the first timer ever! I have been using my Lowrance HDS 7 & 8 since the spring. Decided to trade up my HDS 7 for a HDS 10, my seven was a 2010 model and the HDS-10 was the same, both units are basically out of warranty. The HDS-10 had 4 of the 6 soft keys that were no longer working. I am presently waiting on a another HDS-10 from the same Trader with keys that all are suppose to be working. Before contacting the trader I checked with Lowrance to see what if anything could be done with the unit, short of sending it off, tried wiggling the keys, with the bezel off
Anyway I was told the flat rate fee for a HDS-10 was $812......
thats way out of what I thought repairs for a key pad would be.

So for the guys thinking about buying used Lowrance, you really need to check on cost for repairs, because the softkeys or in my opinion cheap!! however I like the units and the way they operate. My HDS-8 has one key out as well. The one you have to press when the unit boots up, and you have to accept the lincense aggrement.
JM2cents.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/08/11 11:30 PM

$812 FLAT RATE??? eek2 Freaking ridiculous! Guess I'll stick with the smaller units, it'll be cheaper to buy a new one than fix the out of warranty unit.
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/09/11 09:20 PM

WOW!!!! I hope Ill not have to repair mine...sheesh!!
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/09/11 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
just go into your menu's and uncheck net work sonar, on of your units.

Jason, do you have to turn off network sonar on both units if they are interlinked? Id like to use my trolling motor sonar on my HDS5 as well and leave the SI/DI to my HDS7.
Thanks
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/11 02:54 AM

Originally Posted By: RudyDep
Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
just go into your menu's and uncheck net work sonar, on of your units.

Jason, do you have to turn off network sonar on both units if they are interlinked? Id like to use my trolling motor sonar on my HDS5 as well and leave the SI/DI to my HDS7.
Thanks


nope, just one of the your hds units.
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/11 03:15 AM

Awesome, thanks!
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/11 04:07 AM

One more thing, on trails, do I have to start a new trail each outing or can I set it to automatically show a trail?

Posted By: bwj

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/11 07:57 PM

Thanks to everyone who posts on this thread. The information is very helpful when you run into problems/issues. Today, I installed an external antenna to my HDS 8. I had studied all of the literature and instructions, felt very comfortable with the installation. However, before I completed the project, I double checked everything at the beginning of this thread. This is a great resource. Thanks for contributing and hopefully it will remain here for a long time.
Excellent information!
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/11 03:51 PM

Jason is the BEST and everyone is very quick to share info with you!
Posted By: TALLBALDGUY

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/11 04:05 PM

Check these out. I went looking and marking and marking and snapping photos of all kind today. Hope everyone enjoys.





Old Rail Road Bridge. You can see fish under bridge.

Those are not fish, those are the old rail road ties.



Different picture of Bridge.



Going Right Over the middle of Bridge.



Rail Road Ties not over bridge just on the ground.



Bridge Looking the right with side scan, check out the shadow.



Bridge Looking the right with side scan, check out the shadow.



Down Scan Look of Bridge.



I think this is crappie in the trees that line the tracks.
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/11 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: RudyDep
One more thing, on trails, do I have to start a new trail each outing or can I set it to automatically show a trail?


I would tell the unit start a new trail.. each time I go out. then edit/save or delete the trails before.
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/11 06:07 PM

sweet screen shots there TALLBALDGUY
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/11 07:07 PM

Thanks Jason!!
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/11 07:28 PM

AND....I wanted my 500th post to be right here!!!
Posted By: BoomBoom

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/11 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BoomBoom
Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
The GPS refresh rates on Lowrance HDS units come from the factory with a default “auto” setting. This auto setting adjusts the GPS refresh rate based on your speed. Some settings work pretty well from the factory, but this is not one of them. If you’re speeding down the lake, the refresh rate is fast. If you’re idling slowly down a ledge, the refresh rate is very slow and does not update the micro movements. This causes serious update delays… causing your unit to live in the past. If precise boat positioning is important to you — and it should be — you want real time updates.

The best way to get around these slow refresh rates is by going into the “Waypoints, Routes, and Trails menu.

1) Press “Page”

2) Press the right arrow on the cursor pad to scroll over to “Waypoints, Routes and Trails”

3) Use the arrows to select “trails” and hit the “menu” button.

4) Use the cursor pad to highlight settings, then press the enter button

5) Change the “logging type” to “Time”

6) Finally, set the time to “1 sec”. Press close and exit out.


Jason, what if you have an LGC 4000 antenna? Is this just for the internal antennas found on the units?

Do I need to do this update if I'm using the external antenna???
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/15/11 01:02 PM

Yes, I would set your internal gps ant to 1 sec to.
Posted By: Bassinfool

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/11 09:02 PM

Hey Jason,
I have a Lowrance HD Series 5 unit. Will my unit allow something like the LSS-1 side imaging? What would be my other option for side imaging that does not take an arm and leg to purchase?
Thanks,

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/11 09:38 PM

The hds5 will accept the lss1 but for me the screen was a little small for sidescan

Posted By: armadillo joe

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/11 09:43 PM

I had it on my HDS5 and it is kind of small I went to an HDS8.

Posted By: Bassinfool

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/11 10:51 PM

I don't guess they sell a package with bigger screen and side scan for less than $1,000.00? are the referbs worth the money? Thanks for the feed back.

Posted By: Bassinfool

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/11 01:35 AM

Anyone?

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/11 01:52 AM

No packages less than a thousand and the refurbs should be fine as long as they have a warranty

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/11 01:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Bassinfool
Anyone?


Always dead zone in here on the weekends! I don't know the answer to your question but I'd think the HDS 5 combo is close to that price. I paid 1700 ish for the HDS 7 combo at Bass Pro and I know that some dealers sell quite a bit cheaper than a store like Bass Pro does.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/11 02:32 AM

The HDS5 bundles start under $1200 and the HDS7 bundles are just over $1400.

The reman's come with a 1 year warranty.

Brian

Posted By: Bassinfool

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/03/11 01:42 AM

Thanks

Posted By: WAWI

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/03/11 07:35 PM

I am not getting left or down on side scan only right does this sound like the transducer?

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/03/11 08:11 PM

do you just have only right chosen.? go into your structure scan menu and change the view.. also what unit do you have.

Posted By: WAWI

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/03/11 10:00 PM

No only right selected. Both reads right,on half screen, down nothing, right only reads great. Hds 5

Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/11 02:14 PM

hmmm????

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/09/11 02:30 PM

Would it effect an lss1 unit if you had low power coming to it! I have never tested mine and just wondering. My sidescan doesn't seem like it shows stuff like it should.

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/15/11 06:34 PM

Here a while back, I had a battery problem, and the juice finally got so low that the HDS-7 started shutting down and trying to reboot. Until the display actually went blank, I couldn't tell any difference in image quality.

I've rarely seen anything on sidescan worth investigating except in 40 fow or less.

Posted By: Lga043

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/28/11 03:35 PM

does the sincetivity of the 2-d sonar have any effect on the side or downscan?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/28/11 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Lga043
does the sincetivity of the 2-d sonar have any effect on the side or downscan?


The 2D sonar operates at a different frequency than the LSS-1 transducer so it would not effect your Side/down scan.

Brian

Posted By: Lga043

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/28/11 04:22 PM

Thank you

Posted By: t1h2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/11 01:57 PM

jason,

My new boat will be here in a couple of weeks and I will have a HDS 8 mounted at the bow, there will be a HDS 8 in the dash and there will be a HDS 10 ram mounted by the steering wheel. My question is 1) How do I set up the networking where the bow mount will read (sonar) the built in transducer in trolling motor.
2) How do I set up the network where all 3 HDS will read mapping, down and side imaging and mark a waypoint on any of the 3 units and that waypoint record on all 3 units

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/11 09:49 PM

Nice setup.

Your LSS 1 will have 3 Ethernet connections that will run to each unit. Yellow connection.

Find the network menu item and you can choose which transducer to use for each unit. If you have two antennas this is where you choose which to use on which unit.

Posted By: Lga043

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/01/11 12:45 AM

back on page 1 the first set of pictures, it is showing the sidescan, left and right, and the downscan, and they are both in the blue pallete, mine are Blue and Tan or brown, my question is how do you change them both to blue, the main one I can set, but the second one I don't know how!!!

Posted By: jw62

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/03/11 02:11 AM

anyone know screw and thread size to flush mount a mark5

Posted By: trlrman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/03/11 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Lga043
back on page 1 the first set of pictures, it is showing the sidescan, left and right, and the downscan, and they are both in the blue pallete, mine are Blue and Tan or brown, my question is how do you change them both to blue, the main one I can set, but the second one I don't know how!!!
larry try bringing up the brown 1 on full screen and change the pallet and see if it keeps if not page over to brown and try while its half screen

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/11 04:35 AM

For the HDS series, what is the difference between the normal HDS unit and the HDS-X unit? For example, HDS-5 versus HDS-5x?

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/11 01:52 PM

Hdx is only downscan I believe with no regular sonar. I personally wouldn't by it. The hds5 is a great unit though!!

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/11 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: AggieDave
For the HDS series, what is the difference between the normal HDS unit and the HDS-X unit? For example, HDS-5 versus HDS-5x?


The HDS5 has internal GPS/Mapping the HDS-5X is a fishfinder only.

Brian

Posted By: txsfshn

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/11 09:47 PM

I was wondering what the best way is to be able to view the hds series units at home. Has anyone used a 110 to 12 volt converter? Also is there anyway to see the same mapping on the hds with insight on your computer?

Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/10/11 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: txsfshn
I was wondering what the best way is to be able to view the hds series units at home. Has anyone used a 110 to 12 volt converter? Also is there anyway to see the same mapping on the hds with insight on your computer?


I have an extra power cable, cig ligther plug and convert...bought the cig lighter and converter from Radio Shack. As for the extra power cable w/cig lighter end you can purchase that from lowrance or a dealer. Dealer probably would be quicker.

[url=]http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3932572[/url]






Posted By: txsfshn

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/10/11 06:58 PM

Cool thanks!

Posted By: t1h2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/14/11 04:30 PM

Need help on saving waypoints to a memory card from hds 8. I remember reading about saving waypoints to memory card but cannot find the article.

I inserted memory card in hds 8 and went to files and hit enter. the next screen showed memory card then below it showed my files and waypoints, routes and trails What do I need to do know.

Thanks

Posted By: trlrman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/14/11 06:00 PM

http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/files/Lowrance/HDS/Save_Waypoints_to_SD_on_HDS_Unit.pdf

Posted By: oak point

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/11 02:38 PM

I have an HDS 5 that I have not updated in a couple of years. It is still running 1.3 something. I bought an SD card and downloaded the 4.0 update from the Lowrance website but when I put the card in the unit and power it up it does not automatically install the update. I must be doing something wrong.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/11 02:55 PM

Did you save the download to your pc/desktop first ?

Format the card again, go the the website and download the update. When it asks you to save or run, click save and save it to your desktop.

It will put an icon on your desktop. Make sure your SD card and reader are connected to your computer, then double click the icon and execute the file. Save the files to your drive that has the SD card reader in it.

Once complete, you should be able to put the card in your HDS unit, turn it on, and it should recognize the new update and will ask you a couple of basic install questions. Then you should be good to go.

Brian

Posted By: oak point

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/11 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Did you save the download to your pc/desktop first ?

Format the card again, go the the website and download the update. When it asks you to save or run, click save and save it to your desktop.

It will put an icon on your desktop. Make sure your SD card and reader are connected to your computer, then double click the icon and execute the file. Save the files to your drive that has the SD card reader in it.

Once complete, you should be able to put the card in your HDS unit, turn it on, and it should recognize the new update and will ask you a couple of basic install questions. Then you should be good to go.

Brian


Thanks Brian. I will give it a shot.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 01:27 AM

What are the differences between linking two hds units by nmea2000 network or ethernet?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 01:38 AM




Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 02:15 AM

Thanks for the reply BBG. That chart is helpful. More specifically what are the columns data source settings and System settings referring to. does data source mean you can select between different transducers?
what does full waypoint edit mean?
does the nmea cable and the ethernet utilize the same outlet.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 03:22 AM

"More specifically what are the columns data source settings and system settings"

In your HDS unit, you will find those menu settings. The chart is simply saying that those settings can be shared across the ethernet network.

The transducer settings (LSS1 or the 83/200 khz transducer) can be shared on any HDS unit in the network. So can temp readings and structure scan images as well as GPS coordinates.

Full waypoint edit means you can change the name, and icon etc. on either unit.

The NMEA2000 and ethernet do not utilize the same port on the back of the HDS unit. Each has it's own port and is labeled. The physical connectors are completely different between the two networks.

Brian

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 02:50 PM

Last question... How do I link the units using the ethernet port if my LSS-1 is already plugged in there? Does plugging the other unit into the LSS-1 box automatically link them?

Once again thanks for the help, I'm trying to get my graphs set up correctly.
Glad there is a resource like this with ppl like you that know what they r talkin about. thumb

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 03:24 PM

yes each hds unit need to be connect to the lss-1 box by the ethernet cord...then it will automatic share info.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 03:26 PM

The LSS-1 transducer has it's own port. You will have 3 ethernet ports available on the other end of the module.

Once an HDS unit is connected to the LSS-1 module via ethernet, you are then networked with all other devices on the network and can share data.

Brian

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 05:42 PM

ok thanks guys that has everything cleared up

Posted By: champion221

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 11:02 PM

okay so im going across lake my hds-7 shuts off and comes back on by its self boots up and after a few sec locks up. when it locks up no buttons work. it will shut off and keep doing same thing. will say when it first comes right after it boots up the buttons work but only for a few sec. anybody heard of this prob can it be wiring or should i just call lowrance tomorrow.

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/11 11:52 PM

Mine started shutting down and rebooting. Turned out I had a loose connection to the battery.

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/17/11 01:43 AM

Mine does that on a low battery

Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/22/11 03:28 PM

Yep, voltage problem, I had the same exact thing with mine, and some days it'd be fine, then it'd do exactly what yours is. I had tapped into a line going to the bow console (small diameter) and apparently somewhere there is/was a weak connection.
Finally bit the bullet, was upgrading my bow light socket to a 3-pin to enable a "task light" up front, and pulled new 10ga power cables from the battery (for other future options if desired). No problems since, and when disconnecting things, I noticed where a frayed connection was on the old line that was probably the problem (I thought I was "in front of" the power connection for that switch, but looks like I was tapping a secondary connection leading from that, so that connection was old and faulty.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/11 09:28 PM

I was out on the lake using my down scan to look at some spots and my screen became very dark the illumination was set to 10, but it was very dark. Turned the unit off and cut the power to unit after it powered down. After waiting for approx 1 minute I powered the unit back up and It was bright again. this happened one more time during the day. anybody had or heard of this happening and a possible cause/solution.

On another note I tried to put an 8 gig card in my unit and it totally locked up. took the card out and the unit worked again.
don't know if these two problems are merely coincidences or are related.

any ideas?


Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/11 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Champion198
I was out on the lake using my down scan to look at some spots and my screen became very dark the illumination was set to 10, but it was very dark. Turned the unit off and cut the power to unit after it powered down. After waiting for approx 1 minute I powered the unit back up and It was bright again. this happened one more time during the day. anybody had or heard of this happening and a possible cause/solution.

On another note I tried to put an 8 gig card in my unit and it totally locked up. took the card out and the unit worked again.
don't know if these two problems are merely coincidences or are related.

any ideas?


One of my units did the dark thing. I was told to do a soft reset. It seems to be cured now.

Don't know about the card as 16 gig is supposed to work just fine.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/11 09:48 PM

Ok thanks Dayne

Posted By: t1h2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/11 02:58 PM

Need Help
I have and 8 hds (hds used basically for maps) in dash with shoot thru hull transducer in order to read depth while on plane.
I have 10 hds on ram mount by dash with stern mounted transducer
I have 8 hds on bow with u2 transducer built in minn kote tm
All 3 units are set with DI and SI and are linked with ethernet and nmea2k
The questions are
I want to be able to have bow mount hds to read only sonar and depth, temp from trolling motor and nowhere else, but also be able to use SI and DI.

I want the dash mounted hds to read only skimmer transducer with depth,temp, sonar and SI and DI

I want the ram mounted hds to read only stern mounted transducer with sonar,temp and depth along with SI and DI.
Hopefully someone can help me Thanks

Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/30/11 03:36 PM

HDS Gen2 are about to hit the market. As I surmised based on the current "clearance/rebate" price cuts, something new was about to come out.
Received the "Offshore Angler" Bass Pro catalog which is now advertising all HDS as "Gen2" models.
Can't find ANYTHING elsewhere on the web, so posting what little I gleaned here.
Basically, the improvements are:
1. New - StructureMap function. Now overlay your side/downscan imaging directly on the contour maps of your choice, for a "picture" map of the bottom.
2. "Faster speed" - presumably a faster processor, probably why it can do the StructureMap now.
3. "More advanced memory" - no details given about this item
4. SolarMax Plus screen (don't ask me what plus means, that's all it said)
Anyhow, these are the only HDS listed in that new catalog, and are listed as "new for 2012", so presumably they are trying to clear the inventory of the "Gen Old" units first. Worked for me, for an HDS-8 with skimmer transducer for $1299 total after rebates. I figured based on the "worldwide" price drops and rebates this was coming, so not too disappointed, although that structure map is kind of cool.

Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/30/11 07:09 PM

Update:
Cat's out of the bag officially!
<edit> Well, the link I previously posted, as mentioned, stopped working, I read the article at lunch, when I got home that night it had already been "pulled down". Looks like they also maybe "jumped the gun" and someone said pull it back. It basically said everything I already posted (which wasn't much), plus it said they are removing the "capacitive flywheel". Don't know why they would, and hope they don't, as that's a nice feature, the pics of the Gen2 look like it's still there. Maybe they changed the style, but it's still a flywheel? Anyhow, On bbcboards I also posted there, and after my post someone took a pic of the cataloand uploaded of the Offshore Angler pages that the Gen2 appeared in, for those who don't have the catalog. Sorry that BassAnglerMag had to apparently pull their posting back down, but it really didnt't have a lot more detail than the catalog.

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/11 12:59 PM

Did that 1299 include the LSS-1 and one of the map upgrades?

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/11 05:39 PM

Forget I said anything. Looks like you got a great deal.

Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/11 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: ChrisTexan
Update: http://www.bassanglermag.com/2011/11/30/...-december-2011/
Cat's out of the bag officially!


Link dont work.

Posted By: Wet the Line

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/11 09:31 PM

Anyone know the transducer and power cable that carries the eagle seafinder 320?

Thnaks.

Posted By: ...Larry

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/02/11 06:48 PM

Found a link to more info on HDS Gen2


http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=65819&forum_id=20

Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/24/11 01:20 AM

Where is the best price on a HDS7 right now? Looking for one for my trolling motor.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/24/11 12:43 PM

We still have quite a few of the GEN 1 units in stock at great prices.

Brian



HDS units still on sale !

Posted By: Got the Fever

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/25/11 06:42 AM

What speed is best for getting useful information from your sidescan/downscan? Is there a speed that is too slow or too fast? I am just learning how to interpret the images so I wanna know my speed is right for the best images.

Can you change the scroll speed of the side imaging on the screen? if so, would it be useful too?

Thanks for any advice! I've already got a list of things to try after reading the 5 pages of this thread that I didn't know existed until today.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/25/11 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Got the Fever
What speed is best for getting useful information from your sidescan/downscan? Is there a speed that is too slow or too fast? I am just learning how to interpret the images so I wanna know my speed is right for the best images.

Can you change the scroll speed of the side imaging on the screen? if so, would it be useful too?

Thanks for any advice! I've already got a list of things to try after reading the 5 pages of this thread that I didn't know existed until today.


As long as I am moving mine works good (even with the trolling motor, about 1mph) and it works best at 3-5 mph. Don't think you can change scroll speed but I may be wrong, I haven't used mine in a while.

Posted By: Got the Fever

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/25/11 08:44 PM

Thanks for the tips grout. I can't wait to get out and play with it some more.

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/26/11 12:38 PM

As grout-scout said, 3-5 mph is the 'sweet spot'. Much more important is making sure that your LSS-1 transducer is level when you are traveling at 3-5 mph.

Read thru the first few pages on this thread for a detail discussion of this.

Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/12 10:37 PM

whats the best place and how to mount a transducer for a lss1 on a nitro nx882, most i see are on the jack plate, and this boat dont have one

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/12 11:38 PM

SternMate™ provides the "tools and the rules" to mount your high speed or imaging transducers correctly the 1st time on any boat hull, regardless of make or model and you'll never have to look back. You can do a professional job yourself all in the spirit of avoiding installation damage.
Safe boating...

Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/07/12 04:36 AM

ok if i have one hds5 insite and one regular hds7 is there any way to link them so that they both use the insite?
if not is there any way i can get the insite maping on my hds7 i just like the way it looks over the other card, and it would be nice if both units matched,and displayed the same

Posted By: westexblues

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/08/12 04:33 AM

Has any one ever hooked up a monitor or iPad to there lowrance for a bigger monitor viewing on the boat? If so how did you do it?

Posted By: MikeT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/09/12 04:04 AM

What is the lowest priced GPS, not combo, that is equipped with NMEA 2000. I have the system and LMF400 head and will be getting the inter link for my ETEC. Would like bigger display to project info. However, I would consider the gray screen DI if it is compatible. Can't find GPS only from Lowrance and the DI unit does not mention NMEA in specs.
Thanks, Mike

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/09/12 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: MikeT
What is the lowest priced GPS, not combo, that is equipped with NMEA 2000. I have the system and LMF400 head and will be getting the inter link for my ETEC. Would like bigger display to project info. However, I would consider the gray screen DI if it is compatible. Can't find GPS only from Lowrance and the DI unit does not mention NMEA in specs.
Thanks, Mike


www.cabelas.com They have a HDS 5M for $500 ish and the 7M is more expensive. The "M" series is a chartplotter only.

Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/11/12 06:58 PM

Originally Posted By: turbo2nr
ok if i have one hds5 insite and one regular hds7 is there any way to link them so that they both use the insite?
if not is there any way i can get the insite maping on my hds7 i just like the way it looks over the other card, and it would be nice if both units matched,and displayed the same
No you can not share mapping over the network....to get insight on your 7 you can buy the insight mapping card...

Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/12 04:19 PM

Reports are that the Insight "card" has 4x the resolution of the "built-in" insight product. I've scoured the web though and have yet to find a lot of information on a side-by-side comparison for how it seems in real-life, I love the built-in Insight mapping style on my old HDS5, but now that I have an 8 at the console, wish I could "move" the map over to that (have Platinum+ card on the 8).
I'd not buy the built-in Insight if the card really is that much better, since I think the add-on prices work out about the same as built-in. You do lose the slot availability but reportedly the add-on card has 2-4GB available for storage.
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/missouri-...sight-maps.html

Posted By: Aggiebasser05

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/12 02:19 AM

I just got my first hds today and plan on adding a second next month. I've seen some pros with a gps puck up front and at the back of the boat. How are they setting up multiple pucks? I am assuming that each puck shows up in the gps setting on the unit and you can pick which puck you want to read from????

Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/12 03:28 AM

Yes...you hook up both antennas to the nema network and direct your unit to use which ever antenna.

Posted By: ReelTightVa

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/21/12 08:17 PM

Just a couple screen shots of some submerged timber with fish holding in it.
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Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/12 03:13 PM

Is a 08 premium Navionics card compatable with the HDS units or do I need a newer card to work in it?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/12 05:39 PM

Your 08 card will work fine in your HDS unit.

Brian

Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/12 01:57 AM

What Color palette are people using the most for the dsi view?

Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/12 02:34 AM

Does anyone know where I can get a new lss transducer bracket?

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/26/12 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: djdoubl3j
Does anyone know where I can get a new lss transducer bracket?


check out this link.


http://store.navico.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchCriteria=lss-1%20bracket

Posted By: Shake n Bake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/03/12 09:00 PM

Lowrance HST-WSBL 200 KHZ Transom Mount Transducer

Is this the coorect replacement transducer for a Lowrance X87 depth finder?

Posted By: ReelTightVa

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/05/12 12:36 AM

Never seen a school of fish like this before, it was huge. Saw them breaking on the surface and marked them on the lowrance HDS 10.
Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/11/12 03:42 AM

have elite 5 dsi cant get it to set up like manual pictures or anything else I know it is the operator. Is there a step by step instruction book that a dummy can understand GTO

Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/11/12 12:32 PM

no one can help on elite5dsi info

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/11/12 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: G T O
have elite 5 dsi cant get it to set up like manual pictures or anything else I know it is the operator. Is there a step by step instruction book that a dummy can understand GTO


What pallet are you using? What are your settings? Which kHZ are you using? Do you have any pics of what your looks like?

Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/12/12 02:45 AM

I told you are dealing with a dummy. I have 455khz,all alarms on,white backround,overlay data on,lowrance data(not Navionics)north up, internal antenna, range on auto. Sometimes on split screen. Waypoints wont show either I have several in storage hope this will help thanks for the info GTO

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/12/12 02:57 PM

Try the 800 kHz unless you are shallow scanning. Try the brown pallet with distance set to 80'. Play around with the contrast 60-70. Your wpts won't show up if you are zoomed in until you are very close to them.

Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/12 02:00 AM

Thanks Dayne I also failed to tell you i have the transducer on the trolling mrt. will this screw me up also? I am at 1 mile and less at times. I will make changes and let you know. We normally fish 15 25 ft. thanks again GTO

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/12 02:36 AM

Yes GTO, the slow speeds could be your problem. I'll let Dayne help you out though, he knows more about that graph.

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/12 02:55 AM

I run down all the time and speed doesn't seem to be a factor with it like it is with side imaging. One thing you should watch for is trolling motor interference. I have had it from the git go and the motor was taken in for warranty work of new brush holders and internal grounding. It is better but still there.

Here are what my down images look like.







Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/12 05:30 AM

Will change all like you said . Never had anything like your pic.Will making the 800 change and contras and everything show on the bottom of my screen like your pic thanks again GTO

Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/12 01:30 AM

Thanks Dayne, Weather has been very crapey around here. 3in snow and wind at 25 goimg tommorow will let you know. once again thanks GTO

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/12 11:09 AM

Where are you located Dayne? That looks like a spoonbill

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/12 10:44 PM

It is a Table Rock spoonbill. I saw 7 of them the other day at the confluence of the James River and Flat Creek.

Posted By: G T O

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/16/12 02:56 AM

Dayne, think I got it. Brown looks good Thanks a lot GTO

Posted By: Knappster

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/20/12 03:48 AM

Bought a 2006 Triton TR186 last summer and recently switched out the old X135 graph in the dash with a LMS 522igps. Worked great for several weeks and then started losing sonar while GPS and mapping still worked. Starting digging into the issue and also thinking about putting a HDS 5 or 7 on the bow to network with the 522 but found some odd things. By the way, my TR186 has a NMEA network built in.

At the bow I have an old Eagle FishFinder2 which I plan to replace but I wanted to see how it was connected and if it was connected to the network. Transducer was connected as to the trolling motor as expected and the power cord had only the + and - connected and the other 3 wires were cut and taped off. I did find part of the network cable ends with caps (see pics). photobucket  

In the hull it appeared that I have 2 shoot through Transducers. One being a HST-WSBL Skimmer and the other being a Pod transducer PD-WBL. Since I was having issues with Sonar I decided to see how the transducer was wired. It was connected to the Skimmer and not the Pod. Connecting the Pod makes the Sonar work again.

At the dash, I found so many NMEA cables that I am really confused. I have 2 transducers, 1 power line, and about 4 other connectors that I assume go somewhere to the NMEA network and obviously the bow too and maybe the water temp lead going to the transom area. The built in network has a power on/off switch on the same panel with the ignition switch. Photobucket

I've got two graphs that work now but I'd like to upgrade the bow graph and be able network these together. I read all the links in this forum topic but outside of taking all the NMEA wiring completely out I am not sure where to go. Am I missing something or is there something that explains or tells me what goes where? Appreciate any help or thoughts.

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/20/12 02:35 PM

I wonder if apples and oranges are being mixed here. The Elite 5 screenshots I've seen have nowhere near the detail of HDS "Downscan." Does it come with an oversize transducer and module like the HDS units?

Don't know about the Elite 5, but my MK Riptide causes serious interference with the "Downscan" functions of my HDS 7, even though they're not connected to the same battery. The interference somehow runs through the onboard charger wiring connecting the batteries.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 12:13 AM

Just hook up my lss1 structure scan to my hds7 but they are link to one another. Do i have to do some setting on my hds7? Thanks.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Just hook up my lss1 structure scan to my hds7 but they are link to one another. Do i have to do some setting on my hds7? Thanks.


Not sure your question is in English? If you can reword it somebody might be able to help you.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 01:43 AM

The lss1 and the hds7 is not communicating. The manual stating that the yellow light supposed to be blinking for it to link. But right now I have a green blinking light.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 01:44 AM

Is there a setup that I need to do?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 02:15 AM

Ah got ya now! Did you connect the yellow wire from the HDS to the yellow wire on the LSS1? They must be connected for the HDS to "wake up" the LSS1. Let me know.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 02:20 AM

You did connect the ethernet cable to the HDS from the lss right?

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 03:30 AM

No. I connected the yellow to the red power and straight to the battery.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 03:30 AM

Yes

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 04:41 AM

Are you getting a "no source" on the structure scan page? Or are you just going by the blinking light? According to my manual there are 3 possible lights. A transducer led, a power led, and a ethernet led. But my book says a green light flashing just means the ducer can't lock onto the bottom (out of water).

Is the HDS a fairly new model or have you had it for a few years? The book says it needs at least a certain version of update.


But to answer your original question, no, there is no set up. Typically when you turn the HDS on it sees the lss by itsself. You might unplug all the cables and plug them all back in again. You know just to be sure.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Are you getting a "no source" on the structure scan page? Or are you just going by the blinking light? According to my manual there are 3 possible lights. A transducer led, a power led, and a ethernet led. But my book says a green light flashing just means the ducer can't lock onto the bottom (out of water).

Is the HDS a fairly new model or have you had it for a few years? The book says it needs at least a certain version of update.


But to answer your original question, no, there is no set up. Typically when you turn the HDS on it sees the lss by itsself. You might unplug all the cables and plug them all back in again. You know just to be sure.



At first I did get "No Soure" because i didnt hook up the yellow wire to the red ppsitive wire. After i hook the 2 up that goes away. Right now i got a green light for the power, slow blinking light for the sonar, and a very fast blinking green light for the Link/Act . My hds7 is brand new and i update it to the 4.0 version. So do i need to hook the yellow wire fromm lss1 to the yellow light on the hds7 unit? Thanks

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 02:02 PM

If you arent getting a no source then it's good to go. I would hook up the yellows but according to the manual its not nec. it just stays hot as long as your battery is hooked up (if you are straight to the battery). Put your graph in simulate and go to the structure graph, it should work. If it's not working one of the cables could be bad.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/21/12 02:29 PM

Thanks . I will try it on the lake today and will post up later.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 03:11 AM

Quick question for Jason or anyone else that might know. How do you load sonar log from a SD card to a computer? Im guessing theres something I need to download but can someone give me some direction to what it is?

Thanks

Jerry

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 03:38 AM

Lowrance sonar viewer 2.1.2, google it.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 04:03 AM

Thanks a lot! Is this also good for viewing Structure Scan?

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Thanks . I will try it on the lake today and will post up later.


I must of have missing out on some setting because everything looked very bluzry .

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Originally Posted By: mapdit
Thanks . I will try it on the lake today and will post up later.


I must of have missing out on some setting because everything looked very bluzry .


I didnt see any structure on the bottom either like some of the photo that posted on this thred.

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 10:28 AM

Originally Posted By: big10
Thanks a lot! Is this also good for viewing Structure Scan?


You can see 2d, down and side scans on the sonar viewer. However, when you start logging the sonar you have to check the log all channels option or you will only get 2d.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Dayne
Originally Posted By: big10
Thanks a lot! Is this also good for viewing Structure Scan?


You can see 2d, down and side scans on the sonar viewer. However, when you start logging the sonar you have to check the log all channels option or you will only get 2d.


Will try it later on this week. Thanks

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 03:23 PM

Ok i got it downloaded last night and used it a little bit. When I was loging on my unit i changed my color pallet to the light blue color which was giving me much better picture than anything else. Now when im looking at it on my computer I cant find that color pallet. It goes back to the default brown and the only other options are the 2d sonar color pallets.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Originally Posted By: Dayne
Originally Posted By: big10
Thanks a lot! Is this also good for viewing Structure Scan?


You can see 2d, down and side scans on the sonar viewer. However, when you start logging the sonar you have to check the log all channels option or you will only get 2d.


Will try it later on this week. Thanks


Map, he wasnt talking to you. He was referring to the sonar viewer post. Can you post a pic of your ducer setup. At what speeds were you traveling? It works best from 3-5 mph but I get damn good pics at 1 mph or if I'm moving at all it's pretty good. Once I hit 6mph it starts to suck.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: big10
Ok i got it downloaded last night and used it a little bit. When I was loging on my unit i changed my color pallet to the light blue color which was giving me much better picture than anything else. Now when im looking at it on my computer I cant find that color pallet. It goes back to the default brown and the only other options are the 2d sonar color pallets.


You can't get those pretty colors on the viewer but then again you don't have to sit in the boat staring at the screen. It's also not as clean of pics, just convenient. And Dayne added an important fact about the log all channels option.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 07:26 PM

Thanks guys. I like having the conveince of being able to sit inside to look at it. Just wish I could have the pretty colors but I can live with it. I did see the log all channels yesterday and made sure it was selected but I wasnt sure what it was. Thanks for pointing that out.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - NMEA Connections - 02/23/12 07:30 PM

I havnt figured out yet how to take the recoreded structure scan and create a pic of it to post on here. How do I do that? I did notice I was getting good pics at around 2mph. Anything slower than 1mph started getting pretty blury.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/23/12 08:46 PM

In one of the menu pages there is a "capture image" option. You have to turn it on, then to take a pic you push the power button ONCE only. It takes a sec to snap. You will have to do this while playing back your logged info on your HDS unit (can't do it from, sonar viewer)((at least as far as I know hammer)). Now when you are done taking pics you have to put them on the sd card, drop them into photobucket or what ever you use for pics and post them. Now when you are done with all this hogwash you have to go back into the "capture image" menu and turn it off so you can power off the graph. One more thing make sure you are powering the graph off by pressing the power button, then scrolling down to power off, then enter. DO NOT TURN IT OFF BY HOLDING THE POWER BUTTON DOWN! Confused yet??? frkazoid banana

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/24/12 02:25 AM

Thanks for all the info! I think i got it... kinda. who_knows

Posted By: yellowduck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/27/12 01:35 AM

does anyone know if lowarance is gonna give the gen 1 guys a break on gen 2 equip and do you think it is worth it to change just got gen1 last year

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/27/12 04:21 AM

Originally Posted By: yellowduck
does anyone know if lowarance is gonna give the gen 1 guys a break on gen 2 equip and do you think it is worth it to change just got gen1 last year


If you mean as far as an "upgrade" discount? Don't count on it. The gen 1 is good stuff, the gen 2 just has a little more. Hell I bet in a few months there will be a new lss2 or something like it to be announced. Rebates on gen 1 units, rebates on gen 2 units and rebates on lss modules? They are bringing something new out. It just might be good, might not be good?

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/12 12:45 PM

To take screen shots on HDS, you press Menu twice, then select Systems from the drop down menu. This will give you another drop down menu with the screenshot option. Your shots will be saved on internal memory, and you can then transfer them to an sd card.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/01/12 02:59 AM

My HDS 7 is not showing temp.
I have a pod style transducer with temp sensor on the trolling motor. Looked at the tag on the transducer cable and selected that particular transducer on the HDS 7 settings. Any ideas why it isn't showing temp?

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/01/12 03:26 AM

You need to select temp in your overlay data.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/01/12 10:31 PM

Hi everyone. I have update my hds unit to 4.o software version last month. So my question is should I kept the 4.0 version or do I need to update to the 4.1 ? Would it have any effect if I update it ? Thanks.

Posted By: 2010 Nitro Z-8

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/01/12 11:52 PM

Looking for help setting up my HDS units with Structure scan. I am not seeing structure and fish. This is my set up HDS7 gen 1 at bow with transducer for that unit on trolling motor another HDS7 gen 1 at console with transducer mounted on hull and both linked to LSS-1 with transducer mounted on side of setback plate. Both units updated to 4.0. I am moving the structure scan transducer to the bottom of the hole shot plate thinking that might help but looking at all the info on this forum I think it is also in the settings. I use it for bass fishing on lakes and rivers. Any help will be appreciated.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/02/12 01:58 AM

Hey 2010, capture a few screen shots. That will tell us more than anything else.

Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/02/12 02:42 AM

Well, if you can't post pics, just describe what you see on the display in the "downscan" modality. Can you see the bottom? Are you getting a depth reading on the upper right corner on the screen? Really not much to play around with on settings, apart from manual depth settings and contrast. Fish aren't always easy to identify on Structure Scan.

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/02/12 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Hi everyone. I have update my hds unit to 4.o software version last month. So my question is should I kept the 4.0 version or do I need to update to the 4.1 ? Would it have any effect if I update it ? Thanks.


I'd do the 4.1. I like to keep my units software up to date because there wouldn't be an update unless there was something better to offer.

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/02/12 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Dayne
Originally Posted By: mapdit
Hi everyone. I have update my hds unit to 4.o software version last month. So my question is should I kept the 4.0 version or do I need to update to the 4.1 ? Would it have any effect if I update it ? Thanks.


I'd do the 4.1. I like to keep my units software up to date because there wouldn't be an update unless there was something better to offer.



Thanks..

Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/12 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
...DO NOT TURN IT OFF BY HOLDING THE POWER BUTTON DOWN!...


First I have heard of this. What is the reasoning behind that?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/12 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: B_Thomas
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
...DO NOT TURN IT OFF BY HOLDING THE POWER BUTTON DOWN!...


First I have heard of this. What is the reasoning behind that?


Not sure, but the guys from Lowrance said it powers down differently that way vs pushing the power button once and scrolling down to power off, enter. They don't even put the proper prodedure in the owners manual so who knows??? But it was something about saving data and some guys were having problems....???? It's just habit since that was the only way to turn off the old graphs.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Champion198
My HDS 7 is not showing temp.
I have a pod style transducer with temp sensor on the trolling motor. Looked at the tag on the transducer cable and selected that particular transducer on the HDS 7 settings. Any ideas why it isn't showing temp?

Originally Posted By: Dayne
You need to select temp in your overlay data.


Temp was selected. here are screen shots from my HDS 7 and my HDS 8 hooked up to the same transducer. I hooked both graph up to the bow and stern with the same results in both locations. HDS 8 displays temperature and HDS 7 displays "---" where temp should be.

[img:left][/img] [img:right][/img]

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 01:47 AM

Hey Champ, the only thing I can think of is... Work with me here, going by memory and it's not great. There is a setting deep inside one of the menus and there is a setting for temp, it has the option for "global" or "this unit". Find that setting and I'm sorry I can't remember which menu it is but check that. Other than that I'm clueless, also did you turn the network off.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 02:16 AM

Network is off. today I was just alternating between the two, at the same power and transducer location. I will try to locate temp setting that you are speaking of. I went to the data overlay to check and see if there might be more than one temp source, but no luck there that I found. Thanks for the input. I did hook up the lss-1 and switch over to structure scan and that screen had temp from lss-1 transducer. I'm sure i'll figure it out eventually.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 02:34 AM

Dang I can't remember which menu it is but it is has the main unit options. I've only been in it once and that was to change how my graphs were sharing info.

You'd be better off asking this question over at bassboatcentral.com Theres a Lowrance board there and those guys know everything!

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 02:53 AM

ok cool. I'll try there.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/12 03:18 AM

just checked out bbc and right off i found a thread concerning temp issues. even had a video link about the local/global setting you spoke of. to get there: menu > menu > network > data sources > sonar > temperature > select this unit.
gonna try this tomorrow maybe it will work
thanks for the help scout

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR I finally got HDS so I got questions for the experts n here. - 03/07/12 09:25 PM

Anybody have any suggestions at to any pitfalls to installation that I need to avoid. Or any settings that you recommend to a novice.

I have over 5 years of experience with a LMS-332 so lots of the stuff in the manual (which I have already read from cover to cover) is very familure.

****OH...and will I be able to use a SD card to load the HDS with my icons and waypoints from my LMS-332???

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR I finally got HDS so I got questions for the experts n here. - 03/08/12 12:53 AM

Pretty simple Kyle, just take your time and use good old fashioned common sense. Now if your putting the lss ducer on that can be a little pickier. It has to be able to see, if you have a jackplate then it's usually not a problem. I'm not sure if your old graph downloads into the same format as the hds. If nobody helps you out here head over to bbc and ask those fellas.

Posted By: RedRanger521

Re: Lowrance SONAR I finally got HDS so I got questions for the experts n here. - 03/08/12 04:45 PM

Lowrance HDS Gen 1 units updates get released tomorrow 9 March 2012. I was able to download it but have not installed it yet on my units.

Yes I know it is not valid until tomorrow

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR I finally got HDS so I got questions for the experts n here. - 03/08/12 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: RedRanger521
Lowrance HDS Gen 1 units updates get released tomorrow 9 March 2012. I was able to download it but have not installed it yet on my units.

Yes I know it is not valid until tomorrow


Why would there be a new update? They just put out 4.1 a few weeks ago.

Posted By: RedRanger521

Re: Lowrance SONAR I finally got HDS so I got questions for the experts n here. - 03/08/12 05:09 PM

I replied in other post

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/12 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Champion198
just checked out bbc and right off i found a thread concerning temp issues. even had a video link about the local/global setting you spoke of. to get there: menu > menu > network > data sources > sonar > temperature > select this unit.
gonna try this tomorrow maybe it will work
thanks for the help scout


This worked!!! thank you scout

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/09/12 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Champion198
Originally Posted By: Champion198
just checked out bbc and right off i found a thread concerning temp issues. even had a video link about the local/global setting you spoke of. to get there: menu > menu > network > data sources > sonar > temperature > select this unit.
gonna try this tomorrow maybe it will work
thanks for the help scout


This worked!!! thank you scout


Common problem, not sure why, but it is. Post some coolphotos when you get a chance. cheers

Posted By: sunfish5

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/12 04:01 AM

need some help just installed a HDS GEN2 with insight and put a hot maps chip in (the new one) and its not showing up I turned the unit off poped it in and no difference any ideas?? The front unit is a HDS7 GEN2 and works fine??

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/12 01:37 AM

Well it took me 9 hours to take off the LMS-332 and install the HDS-5 Ans the LSS-1 side scan but after two days onthe water at Sam Rayburn I will say it was worth it downscan is awesome. Someone said it is like scuba diving without getting wet. I concur.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/12 02:03 AM

Here ya go Scout. a shot of the 147 bridge on Rayburn back in the summer. I guess those are crappie or whites. I didn't even drop a line I was just playin with the graph.



Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/12 02:18 AM

I just bought an LSS-1 unit. Yes, I know the LSS-2 comes out on the 15th. I plan to see if Lowrance will exchange it. But that's beside the point. I assume the transducer will be similar. I've heard its a little larger, but still the same basic shape. My question is, where is the best place to mount this transduce on my boat. I don't have a jackplate. I have a step under the transom. The step is about 9.5' deep. See below. So my question is, since the step is recessed, will the edges of the boat interfere with the Structure Scan?




Posted By: TX Basser

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/12 05:52 PM

Is the LSS-2 really coming out. The answer is YES. Here is a link to an online store advertising arrival date and price.
http://lr.factoryoutletstore.com/details/46918/lowrance-hds-8-gen2-insight-w-lss-2-bundle.html

Posted By: 90 5.0

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/12 03:55 AM

Need help, after reading more and more of this thread i think i'm getting more and more confused about the Nema2k connection.

I have decerned that I need one more tee besides what came in the starter kit to link my new 8 to my old 5.

That being said , it looked like from a table posted earlier that the ethernet cable provides more data transfer than the nema2k.

So do i need an ethernet also?

What ever else i need to get to have my unit working i need to get them tommorow so i can finish this install and have my boat ready for the weekend(tourney sat).

I have to go back to bp again, to get another tee and to swap out the lakemaster card for a freeking bird and get another nav card.

do i need to get an ethernet cable as well?

What started out as a trip to get a new transducer for my 5, and deciding to get an 8 and overwhelmed with happiness drooling over that big screen has turned into an installation nightmare. ( multiple trips for different mounts just to get it mounted originally).

I have no nema 2k devices thus far, should i just rip it out and go with ethernet? Or should i leave it in and get an ethernet cable too??

this is driving me crazy.


Further on to my craziness , i plan to get a 7 or another 8 and the lss when my tax return comes in, but i had some thoughts about what to do with the 5 or adding yet another graph.

I would like to have di on the tm also( i think anyway). has anyone added an elete 5 dsi up front with the di on the tm, with a hds next to it to show maps and side scan from the back??

I want to plan out my next purchase better and make sure i cover all of my grounds before that install happens, this one is like pulling teeth...


SO to recap, trying to link 5 to 8, no lss.
I have nema2k starter kit only, but still need another tee.

what d i need to get tomorrow??

Thanks

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/12 01:02 PM

Hi neighbor! Unfortunately, there is no correct answer to your question until you try it. It's stictly guesswork. There is a "sure-fire" way; however, to learn exactly what your imaging transducer will see before installing it...all in the spirit of avoiding common transducer installation damages. See the "RULES"...they work EVERY time!

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/12 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: 90 5.0


SO to recap, trying to link 5 to 8, no lss.
I have nema2k starter kit only, but still need another tee.

what d i need to get tomorrow??

Thanks




If you just want to share waypoints then just run a ethernet cable from the 8 to the 5. I don't know anything about the nmea and don't want to.

Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/16/12 01:23 AM

To piggy back on what grout said, get the ethernet cable...from the looks on your post, you setting all this up from scratch...if thats the case then at this point just use the e-cable...nema will share nema sensors like temp, fuel, motor info (if applicable, etc.....what we mentioned will get you going for the weekend and probably for awhile until you decide to add sensors....

Posted By: 90 5.0

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/16/12 02:47 AM

Thanks for the replies, i just now logged back in after going to bos and getting a new map card and the e-cable. They did not have just the tee's there, i would have had to get a whole nother starter kit,

I took the nema out of the boat, if i ever get anything else to add i will re-run it i guess.

I fired the units up in the garage aftr i got everything done and they do share waypoints now.

thanks.

Posted By: aclaimsman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/16/12 08:05 PM

nevermind found it

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/19/12 05:12 AM

I have an HDS Gen2 unit with Lake Insight. When I look at the GPS for Lake Fork, I see black lines that I can't find information on. What do the represent? Are the lines on every Lake Insight unit or is mine messed up?





Posted By: Chris B

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/19/12 01:23 PM

Pipelines.

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/19/12 03:08 PM

How do you get your screen shots from the HDS unit to your computer so that they can be posted here? Can you give me a step by step process including posting on this forum?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/19/12 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: CrappieKyle
How do you get your screen shots from the HDS unit to your computer so that they can be posted here? Can you give me a step by step process including posting on this forum?


First off, when you turn your HDS graph on you have to go into the menus and find the "screen capture" option. Turn that bubble on. Then when you find an image that you want to take a pic of you push the power button ONCE, it takes a second and the bottom of the screen will say "image captured" or something to that extent. Then when you are done screwing around for the day you have to copy the image (files page) onto a sd card. Put onto photobucket or something similiar, copy the 4 url codes (left click each one) and paste it onto this site (right click). If you are at all computer literate you will figure it out. I am completely computer illetate and finally figured it out.



Forgot to add, you have to turn off the screen capture option in order to power your HDS graph off. Remember it uses the power button.

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/12 12:43 AM

Just FYI for the forum, I recently asked Lowrance about the launch angle for the LSS-1 structure scan transducer. I received the following response:

The angle size of the Down Scan Signal is listed below.

Measured FORE to AFT X PORT to STARBOARD
800 KHZ: 1.58 deg x 31.75 deg
455 KHZ: 2.79 deg x 55.82 deg

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/12 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: AggieDave
Just FYI for the forum, I recently asked Lowrance about the launch angle for the LSS-1 structure scan transducer. I received the following response:

The angle size of the Down Scan Signal is listed below.

Measured FORE to AFT X PORT to STARBOARD
800 KHZ: 1.58 deg x 31.75 deg
455 KHZ: 2.79 deg x 55.82 deg


That is some great info to know....THANKS!

But how they get sound to behave like that is what I don't understand.

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/12 03:12 PM

Lowrance Announces StructureScan HD LSS-2 New module and new transducer that gives you greater range in shallow water and greater resolution.

http://www.lowrance.com/Products/Marine/StructureScan-HD/

If you watch at the end of the video it says that if you have the LSS-1 (which I have only owned for 2 weeks) that I can change out the transducer to LSS-2 and get more range and resolution.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/12 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CrappieKyle
If you watch at the end of the video it says that if you have the LSS-1 (which I have only owned for 2 weeks) that I can change out the transducer to LSS-2 and get more range and resolution.



Don't get your hopes up on that one. The Lowrance man, Jason says you will get more range but as far as better resolution you need the lss2. Yeah I know what Lowrance said because I saw the video too, but I believe the person that has actually used them. I won't be rushing out and buying a lss2 until I see some real world results that show an improvement. Very dissappointed with this new lss2 combo, the freaking ducer is 10 inches long and so far the pics I have seen aren't any better than the lss1. Yes they are wider but whoopie, might as well buy a Humminbird. bang

Posted By: Allan W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 01:29 AM

I fixed it for ya
"should have bought a Humminbird"

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 01:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Allan W
I fixed it for ya
"should have bought a Humminbird"


Allan, you want to post some of your pics? Yours, not Dougs! I'll challenge your bird pics vs the Lowrance pics.






Running down birds? Nope I'm one of the few that can admit each has it's pros & cons. Now the 360 thing, not so sure about it. The new LSS2, not so sure about it either.

Posted By: Allan W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 01:40 AM

LMAO, I just did that to mess with ya. I see you runnin down bird's on all the forums. I don't try to convince people that what I have is better,and don't do the whole ford /chevy thing either. If you like what you have then your all set.



Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: Allan W
I fixed it for ya
"should have bought a Humminbird"


Allan, you want to post some of your pics? Yours, not Dougs! I'll challenge your bird pics vs the Lowrance pics.






Running down birds? Nope I'm one of the few that can admit each has it's pros & cons. Now the 360 thing, not so sure about it. The new LSS2, not so sure about it either.



Your turn popcorn

Posted By: Allan W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 01:49 AM

Looks like your as good as they get.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Allan W
Looks like your as good as they get.


Nope I've seen alot better than mine but I don't spend alot of time jacking with it like Doug does (nobody sponsors me bang), thats the beauty of Lowrance. So Allan you're bound to have at least one pic you can post. By the way, you are dissing Lowrance on the Lowrance page, at least you can back up a little bit of why you think the bird is better. That might be in the form of a pic?

Posted By: Allan W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 12:30 PM

You might need to read my post again, nowhere have been "dissing" on Lowrance. Sorry no pics, I use mine for fishing. Once again I couldn't care less what brand people use.

I agee they both have their strong points.

Posted By: Chris B

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Allan W
You might need to read my post again, nowhere have been "dissing" on Lowrance. Sorry no pics, I use mine for fishing. Once again I couldn't care less what brand people use.

I agee they both have their strong points.

What exactly are you adding to the Lowrance post? This is one of the few post on the internet that is constructive. Go troll somewhere else. And this response doesn't need a comeback.

Posted By: Allan W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Chris B
Originally Posted By: Allan W
You might need to read my post again, nowhere have been "dissing" on Lowrance. Sorry no pics, I use mine for fishing. Once again I couldn't care less what brand people use.

I agee they both have their strong points.

What exactly are you adding to the Lowrance post? This is one of the few post on the internet that is constructive. Go troll somewhere else. And this response doesn't need a comeback.


I was just messin with scout like I said. I guess I didnt add anything just like your post didn't. Chill out.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/12 06:07 PM

I've learned the best way to shut them up is by posting a pic of what the LSS can do. I use mine for fishing too but I like to record to the sd card and playback something I might have missed, hence I take pics of the cool stuff. I've only seen 3 guys that can work the bird to it's maximum potential, 2 of those guys post here regularly (bird forum of course). They can mess with anybody they want, I'm not sponsored by anybody and don't care what anybody buys but I'll help a fellow Lowrance brother out whenever I can. But in the end talk is cheap and a pic is worth 1,000 words.

Posted By: brennansgrandpa

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/23/12 02:59 AM

I love the blue screen I have an 8 networked with a 5, do I need to install 4.1 to get the color option?

Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/12 04:51 AM

Anybody know how long it takes to get a unit back from Lowrance ?
I have an HDS 10 that will not get pasted loading after installing the new software so Im going to have to send it back to Lowrance for repairs.

Posted By: Atta

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/12 05:23 PM

Just got a 522c igps unit. Everything wrks but the temp reading.

It is stuck on 32 degrees f.. dunno how that change/correct the problem. The mph works but it flashes on the screen just like the water temp. Any info on how to fix the temp and to make it and the speed not flash??

Thanks

Posted By: t1h2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/12 06:37 PM

Need Help

I got a hds 10 in dash and hds 8 at bow, they are linked together. Yesterday while I was on the water with 10 turned chart, a blue box popped up in the middle of screen and said
Waypoint Merge
This waypoint has changed and there is no timestamp available to determine the most recent version, then under this caption it said, Local network
Keep Keep
I hit the softkey for network(keep) and all of my waypoints were deleted.

Does anybody have any idea's on whats going on

Posted By: brennansgrandpa

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/12 12:47 AM

can you tell me how to get the blue screen option for LSS?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/12 01:35 AM

Originally Posted By: brennansgrandpa
can you tell me how to get the blue screen option for LSS?


Pallette #9 is the blue below. I like 9, 6 and at times the lime green is good and at times the red I have below can be good. Just have to experiment to see what fits your eyes the best.

You can change down or si for different colors, just make sure the box you want to change is highlighted by the orange border box. See the orange box around the blue screen, that means that one is available for adjustments. If you don't know how to change the orange border box, then HOLD the page button down for a few seconds, the orange box will change to the next display. Then go into the menu and change whatever you want to change.




Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/12 07:27 PM

Can someone please clarify for me what the structure scan module actually does? One person told me that it's needed in order to have the down and side image. Another person told me that DI/SI comes with the HDS10 and that the LSS1/LSS2 module just allow you to overlay the image over your map card allowing an intergrated view. Can someone please clarify for me. Thanks

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/12 09:45 PM

Structure Scan module (LSS-1 or LSS-2) is required for side and down imaging. The map overlay feature is available in HDS Gen 2 devices, but not in Gen 1.

Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/12 10:18 PM

ok Thanks

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 03:37 AM

I am having issues with gps data source settings.
What should the data source settings be on each of my HDS units to maintain use of each units internal antenna seperately?
Units are linked by ethernet through the LSS-1 unit.

Posted By: CrappieKyle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 11:12 AM

When I put my HDS on Standby the screen goes dark and flashes "Lowrance" intermittently...but what else is it doing? Does the sonar tranducer continue to pulse or is it silenced. I ask because when it turn it back on it seems that it has continued to use both the sonar and LSS1 because it has a lot of recent history available and I think it is interfering with my front sonar a little.

Posted By: soonerbassn

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 11:52 AM

what setting for the transducer selection do choose on the hds 10 for the minn kota us2 transducer?

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 02:09 PM

Generic 83/200.

Posted By: soonerbassn

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 04:06 PM

thanks my front is reading the console transducer.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/12 04:31 PM

sooner,
if you have the units linked via ethernet you might need to turn off the sonar network on at least one of the units

or

you need to go into the network settings under data source and change the sonar setting to local


Posted By: shankdog

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/12 06:55 PM

I did not see a post on this topic, but my local dealer installed an HDS5 with a skimmer transducer glued inside the hull to shoot the sound through the hull. Question is, is this the right transducer for this application, when I go to the lowrance site, they do not show that kind of transducer for mounting to the inside of the hull. Also, it is not level to the hull and the image is very noisy on the HDS5 screen. Is this application ok and is the screen going to be noisy because it is shooting the sound through the hull?

Posted By: AggieDave

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/12 07:35 PM

That doesn't sound right, but I'm no expert. A skimmer transducer is supposed be mounted to the transom to skim the water while running. If you want a shoot through hull transducer, you want this one:

http://store.navico.com/Products/000-0106-69


Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/12 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: steron
I did not see a post on this topic, but my local dealer installed an HDS5 with a skimmer transducer glued inside the hull to shoot the sound through the hull. Question is, is this the right transducer for this application, when I go to the lowrance site, they do not show that kind of transducer for mounting to the inside of the hull. Also, it is not level to the hull and the image is very noisy on the HDS5 screen. Is this application ok and is the screen going to be noisy because it is shooting the sound through the hull?


The skimmer and puck have the same internal parts. It is just as good as the puck mounted inside your hull. NOT to worry.

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/10/12 10:56 PM

There is no adjustment to a "stuck to the hull" shoot-through transducer. Where you stick it down is what you get, until such time you chisel it out. Most any like-kind transom-mounted designed "ergonomic" tranducer will give the same results as as a "flat-sided puck" as they are simply different shapes, one moreso to appease the discriminating "shoot-through" aficinado. The transducer; however, is designed to perform at its optimum when making direct unobstructed contact with the water. And it will do just that when installed correctly. The boat hull may contain voids, unwetted glass, uneven layup and, of course is an entirley different density than water and may even resonate out of time (very common with an aluminum hulls too),which is most certain to diminish the electronic transducer sounding quality. The transducer must hear the return "tempo" at the same rate as it emitted and can easily create confusion which also diminishes an effective sounding. Many dealers will only install a transducer as a "shoot-through" to avoid potential liabilty for installation damages.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/21/12 02:55 AM

Besides the simulator Is there a way to view your saved structure scan sonar log on the hds unit with out having the structure scan unit hooked up. I have the unit in hooked up in the house and am only able to "view sonar log" in the sonar screen. I have viewed the side/down scan before in the boat, but that was with the structure scan hooked up. Kinda disapointing if the thing won't let me do this

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/12 02:26 AM

Champ, I'm pretty sure you can view recorded info without having the lss on. It's been a while since I have used my graphs but while playing them back there is a option on one of the menus that says something to the extent of viewing "primary" (that is the 2d sonar) if you can find that menu change the viewing "primary" to downscan or side image. Sorry I don't remember the exact steps but I know I have done it before.


Or you could go to the Lowrance web site and download "sonar viewer 2.1" then play the cards back on your computer. It lets you view all 3 screens at the same time & on a bigger screen.

Posted By: Shake n Bake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/12 03:06 PM

Did the unit come with a transducer? If not, then was the one you bought also capable of temp readings, not all will read temps.

The flashing speed, not sure about, mine will do that intermittently, but always returns back to normal...

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/01/12 12:12 AM

I am having issues with gps data source settings.
What should the data source settings be on each of my HDS units to maintain use of each units internal antenna seperately?
Units are linked by ethernet through the LSS-1 unit.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/02/12 07:12 PM

Champ, I'm not postivie because it's been a while since I've used my boat but I think it's "local". Pretty sure "global" puts it into shared antenna use. But I do know a positive way for you to know. See what it is currently on and change it.

Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/12 06:08 PM

Ok I'll look into that.

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/12 01:34 AM

Will the gen 1 HDS5x work with a LSS2? And what cable do I need to get the HDS5 to work with the universal sonar on Minn kota terrova? I only saw the HDS5 listed not the X model

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/12 02:12 AM

the hds 5x will work on the lss-2 or lss-1 (if you can find one.)

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/12 02:18 AM

Thanks Jason, do toy know about the cable question? The only cable I could find on the Minn kota site just said HDS5 but didn't mention the 5x

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/12 02:21 AM

its the same as hds 5..

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/12 03:02 AM

Awesome, thanks

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/08/12 03:19 AM

When I get my new lowrance unit will I be able to plug in the chip with my waypoints I have been using in my humminbird and see them or do I need to convert them some how

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/08/12 07:54 PM

Jsplinter, you will need to convert them with a program called gps babel or something to that extent. It's on the Lowrance page over on BBC, one of the sticky topics on the top of the page. Ah heck I'll just copy & paste for you.

How to convert Humminbird Waypoints and Trails to Lowrance..
Using GPS Babel to convert Humminbird waypoints to Lowrance format
Free download at http://www.gpsbabel.org/

First download your waypoints from your Humminbird locator onto an Sd card. Note that Humminbird uses different files for waypoints and routes (.hwr) and tracks (.ht) You can convert both. Lowrance uses a common .usr file for waypoints, routes, and tracks.

Next download a free conversion program called GPSBabel (GPSBabel Download).

Humminbird to Lowrance Conversion

Launch the GPSBabel program and select Humminbird Waypoints as the input. Browse to your waypoint file and select it.

Select Lowrance USR as your output file and provide a name for the new Lowrance .usr file to be created.

Select Apply and the program will convert the waypoints and place the newly formatted output file in the destination you chose.

Copy the new Lowrance .usr file onto an Sd card and upload it into your Lowrance Unit.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/12 07:08 AM

hello all - I'm located lake fork and Just got the HDS-8 gen 2 /insight and SS bundle installed and working. Installed both ducers on the jackplate on my skeeter. I think i have the downscan dialed in pretty good. in any case it is impressive. problem is, i can't get the sidescan to work worth beans. junk displays. nothing at all like the pics posted out of rayburn so i know it will do it if installed and setup right. there is a siminar here in july and the reps will set up the units in your boat. i will go to that. in the meantime could someone please share some SS starting setups and suggestions for this newbe ? CD

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/12 11:25 AM

captdale

Look at the first 2 pages of this thread for some good setup information.

Posted By: HTC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/12 02:57 PM

Anyone had any issues with their sonar sensitivity after the 4.1 update???

After fishing more with the new update it appears to have thrown my sonar a bit out of whack. I am having a difficult time getting it where i want it. The update definately increased sensitivity, ALMOST TO MUCH. not i see every piece of dirt, and microinvertibrate floating in the water column. I recorded all of my settings from before the update and when i set these after update sensitivity was was to high. However any amount i go down i feel like my fish archs also diminish. Instead of a white background i now have a fuzzy blue and pink background because the update increased sensitivity so much. Not sure if i like that part of it yet.

Any tips would be appreciated from anyone who had installed update and feel like their sonar is displaying correctly. i would love to check it against my current settings.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/12 07:34 PM

Capt Dale, if your in shallow water the si sucks no matter what. What depth of water are you in? Can you post a pic of the ducer on the jackplate, Maybe be getting blocked.



HTC, I had to take my sens from high 70's (4.0) down to low/mid 60's after I installed the 4.1 update.

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/12 10:44 PM

Does the Gen-1 have a download that will allow the buttons at bottom of the unit to allow you to go straight to a screen ? Like the 3 button on Hummingbird.

If so how do you make this happen. Just downloaded 4.1 and trying to figure out how to make the new things work.


keith

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/12 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels
Does the Gen-1 have a download that will allow the buttons at bottom of the unit to allow you to go straight to a screen ? Like the 3 button on Hummingbird.

If so how do you make this happen. Just downloaded 4.1 and trying to figure out how to make the new things work.


keith


Yes, just go to the carousel screen and go to the screen that you like by using arrow keys going up and down etc.. (stay on the carousel screen when do this) once you decide which screen you want.. just hold down the soft key for few sec's until image appears in the box.

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/12 02:08 AM

Thank You very much for the help.



keith

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/12 04:10 PM

Hey Grout-Scott It's getting there. I hauled the boat and made sure the SS ducer was level when I was trolling speed. WOW, what a difference. I am truly impressed and thats saying something for me. not quite the quality of the stuff coming out of Rayburn but pretty darn close. Downscan is really impressive and yes this HDS-8 works just fine in shallow water. I don' know how to post pics or would share with you. I have no idea how I got it there but just fiddled with the sens and range once the ducer was level. Kind of like billiards I suspect. If it's not level at slow speed the return does not hit the ducer. CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/12 11:28 PM

Is there anyone on here that wants to do a lowrance guide type trip? I am looking for someone to make sure I mount my transducer correctly and help me get the unit to where it needs to be and give me a good tutorial on the system. Will reimburse for your time

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels
Does the Gen-1 have a download that will allow the buttons at bottom of the unit to allow you to go straight to a screen ? Like the 3 button on Hummingbird.

If so how do you make this happen. Just downloaded 4.1 and trying to figure out how to make the new things work.


keith


Does the GEN2 also have this capability? I looked throu the new update and didn't see anything advertised on it?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 02:20 AM

Jsplinter, that only works on the 8 & 10 units. It is a softkey option, the 5 & 7 don't have them. So yes it's also on gen 2's.

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 03:10 AM

Sweet, ordering my 8 this weekend. I thought about going with the 10 but gotta keep the wife happy also

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 07:34 PM

Hi all - Well, Concerning my new HDS-8, I think I would have given up had I not seen the pics out of Rayburn. Now I'm a pretty happy camper. Works good lasts long time.... It still has the old 1.8 software so need to consider if I want to do the 4.0 upgrade. Other than that I have only one more issue : This thing really likes the juice. I had it hooked to my motor battery and if the motor is not running it will suck that battery down to where it starts blinking in about 1/2 hr. So I hooked it to one of the bigger trolling motor batts. same thing. So - my question is: WHERE DO YOU RECOMMEND CONNECTING IT TO ??? Thanks for any input. This forum is really great for info. CD

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 08:14 PM

Shouldn't use near that much juice. Are you sure the Batteries a GOOD. I had a battery that would take a charge, but was bad. It would show a charge and take a charge, but would run down very quickly. Might be a good place to start.



keith

Posted By: Kerry Dugan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: captdale
Hi all - Well, Concerning my new HDS-8, I think I would have given up had I not seen the pics out of Rayburn. Now I'm a pretty happy camper. Works good lasts long time.... It still has the old 1.8 software so need to consider if I want to do the 4.0 upgrade. Other than that I have only one more issue : This thing really likes the juice. I had it hooked to my motor battery and if the motor is not running it will suck that battery down to where it starts blinking in about 1/2 hr. So I hooked it to one of the bigger trolling motor batts. same thing. So - my question is: WHERE DO YOU RECOMMEND CONNECTING IT TO ??? Thanks for any input. This forum is really great for info. CD


You do need to check your batteries, I run a HDS10,8, and the Lss module off my cranking battery all day with no problems,

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/12 09:49 PM

Good advice. I'll also check the wire size coming from the batts. Here are some DS pics. Not perfect but >>>>> CD





Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/12/12 12:44 AM

And a couple of SI pics. Not there yet. Yet !! CD





Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/12/12 01:00 AM

I need to peek at some of you guy's settings because that looks awesome and I haven't gotten my HDS10 to look like that yet....

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/12/12 01:35 AM

Cap, these fellas are right about the battery, the HDS doesn't really pull that much juice. If you have a gen 2 HDS then the software (1.1 something)you have is most likely the new one, they did have a new update from the original version but if yours works good leave it alone. The 4.1 was for gen 1's only.

Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/12/12 04:55 AM

Originally Posted By: jsplinter
Is there anyone on here that wants to do a lowrance guide type trip? I am looking for someone to make sure I mount my transducer correctly and help me get the unit to where it needs to be and give me a good tutorial on the system. Will reimburse for your time


Josh, you know I'm not an expert but do have the experience on the 8. I'm on 4.1v and I can tell you all my settings via phone for starters. I'll be glad to walk thru the other menus and operating shortcuts if we can get our schedules to match. And help with the ducer placement. Just let me know.

Posted By: Chris Borden

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/12/12 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: jsplinter
Is there anyone on here that wants to do a lowrance guide type trip? I am looking for someone to make sure I mount my transducer correctly and help me get the unit to where it needs to be and give me a good tutorial on the system. Will reimburse for your time


+1 I would love for someone to show me around the units I have on my boat.

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/12 03:09 AM

Transducer placment help, here is some pics of the back of my boat. I will try to get some better ones tomorrow, but from this where should i place the ducers? I have the shield and saver still mounted where my humminbird ducer is at, which one should I put in that spot?





Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/12 04:08 AM

Looking at the lowrance website at the install instruction for the lss, it says that the yellow wire is for connecting to a switch. Does the lss contstantly draw power or is that just an option if you want to connect it throu a switch?

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/12 02:36 PM

Move your transducer aft and up...out of that trough.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/12 03:16 PM

Well, I don't know squat about it but the single best thing I did was make sure the ducer was level with the bottom when I was at trolling speed. Couldn't get it to work worth beans before that. I don't care about on a plane. Both ducers are mounted on the jack plate. One on the right, one on the left. Both are now level when trolling. Also my sens was way too high and the SI distance too short. I left surface clarity low and the noise reject high. hope that helps. I appreciate the info about the batt. It will get there. CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/12 03:19 PM

I connected both yellow wires together and the +/- on both units together thenn ran the + to a switch. That way when I turn off the switch there is no voltage going to either unit. That works good for me. CD

Posted By: Aphac

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 02:19 AM

Great thread. I'm still reading it but I want to put my question here before I logged for the evening.

I am about to buy my first boat and I want to get my sonar bought and installed when they ready my new ride. My preference would be to get an HDS-10 at the console and something else at the bow but I'm not sure if my budget can take it. If you had up to 3k to spend on sonar alone, what would you do?

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 02:35 AM

I would get a 8 and 7 and Ethernet them to each other

Posted By: H-D Dad

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 03:20 AM

The 7 and 8 are slightly different, in the way they operate. I would stick with one or the other. 8&10 or 7&5. Jmo

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 03:29 AM

I have a 7 & 10 and I guess I'll agree that there is quite a difference on how each operates. If it were me (and I havent priced them in awhile) but I think I might go with 2 HDS 8's, the soft keys are quite a bit easier to navigate through. The 10 is nicer in the 4 screen split but boy they are def gonna set you back.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 12:11 PM

Just FYI for the forum, I recently asked Lowrance about the launch angle for the LSS-1 structure scan transducer. I received the following response:

The angle size of the Down Scan Signal is listed below.

Measured FORE to AFT X PORT to STARBOARD
800 KHZ: 1.58 deg x 31.75 deg
455 KHZ: 2.79 deg x 55.82 deg
--------------------------------------------------------------
This is really good info. Shows why the HDS SI works so good at deeper depths and shallow ok but not so much. If you plot it on graph paper say your in 20 ft of water. with a 32 deg side angle your shooting right at 10ft to either side of the boat. No way your looking under a dock unless your right up next to it. Thats assuming the SI works only at 800 Khz. if it works at 455 then your looking slightly more to the side, say maybe 13ft or so in 20 ft of water. deeper the better.. seems that way to me anyway. Interesting. CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 12:21 PM

Ah - so THATS why all the advertisement pictures and the manual pictures are all shown in 80 to 150 ft of water. Slick...... LOL oh lord CD

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 02:18 PM

Great looking screen shots captdale. Are you overlaying your 2d onto your downscan to get the fish symbols? The overlay is something I havnt played with any yet.

Posted By: Aphac

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 02:49 PM

Lots to think about. Thanks for the input.

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 04:17 PM

Need to CHANGE horses here for a minute. Want to talk about the DSI Units:

Lowrance Units have 480X480 PIXELS
Vs
HB Units have 640X640 PIXELS

What is the difference of these PIX going to be ? ? ?


I have Lowrance HDS-10 w/SS-1 & HDS-7 Units on my boat due to having better images. Will this PIXEL difference cause the HB to have a little more crisp PIC's than Lowrance in these DSI Units.


keith

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 07:41 PM

My dad and brother were at the coast fishing this weekend and said the second day they went out the structure scan was saying no source. He said they checked the connections and fuses and they were both good. Anyone know what else could be causing this? I havnt had a chance to check anything out but were planing on going out today after work so hopefully I can figure something out then.

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 08:01 PM

maybe ether net cord.. try another ethernet plug on the lss.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
maybe ether net cord.. try another ethernet plug on the lss.

Its been working fine in the past and getting used often and we never unhook the ethernet cord from the lss. I guess to test this I just need to move the ethernet cord its on now to another plug and see what it does? Cant I also hook it up to my ethernet cord for my hds 5 up front and see if it works then? If so I know the cord going to the console is bad. Right?

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 09:19 PM

yea

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/12 09:46 PM

hi big10- I really don't know. I just messed with it till I got what you see. I'll go to the seminar on 14 july and try to learn what does what. I'm still not satisfied with the SI so will take out a metal mesh deck chair this evening and drop it in 20 ft with a marker float and see if I can get it dialed in better. That way i'll know what i'm looking at anyway. I'll post pics of that exercise.

The way i figure is that 800 khz is about 2ft wavelength, 1 ft 1/2 wave and about 6" at 1/4 wave so i wouldn't expect much resolution on stuff smaller than about 6". Might just be on the wrong track however. We will see.

BTW, it was the batteries. Good batts, work good last long time CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/12 12:13 AM

Well, about what I expected. If you know its there you can find it. Hard to do and pushing the limits I suspect. Maybe not if I can get it dialed in better. Time will tell.





Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/12 12:26 AM

Hey Cream, I have heard nothing but bad stuff regarding the Lowrance DSI units, not sure if the birds are any better.

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/12 01:24 AM

Thanks for the info. I have a couple if buddies that have a Elite 5 DI, and the a HB-788DI. Guess I need to try to schedule a visit to each one of these guys. Just hard to line up everyone's spare time.

Thanks



keith

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/12 04:56 PM

I can't post another pic from my phone but have you guys ever seen the divers split up on both sides of the motor? With my step I have I don't know that I can mount them both on one side. I can email a better pic to anyone willing to give me some advice

Thanks

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/12 03:23 AM

Hi Jason - Can I connect this external GPS antenna from my old Lowrance Globalmap 2000 to my HDS-8? I have the HDS-8 in my center console (skeeter SK2000) and it takes forever to lock on. The 2000 locked on in like 90 seconds. CD



Posted By: Kerry Dugan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/12 03:36 AM

Originally Posted By: captdale
Hi Jason - Can I connect this external GPS antenna from my old Lowrance Globalmap 2000 to my HDS-8? I have the HDS-8 in my center console (skeeter SK2000) and it takes forever to lock on. The 2000 locked on in like 90 seconds. CD



Im not an expert like Jason on lowrance, but im gonna jump out there a atleast recommend the 4000 if you wanna go external

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/12 04:00 PM

Okay. Thats good input. I'll look up the 4000. So I assume it is possible no connect an external antenna. Any idea where I can go to find out how to do it ? CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/12 04:36 PM

Hi Kerry - I think this is a LGC-4000 !!! Apparently NMEA 183. Jason - What do you think ? CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/12 09:24 PM

Hi Jason - I need some technical help. Here is a drawing looking at the connector pins on the GPS rcvr cable. The tag on the back of the rcvr says 7871162. I think its a LGC-4000. I need to know which pins go to where on the HDS-8. Hope you can help. CD



Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 02:14 AM

No you cannot.

Originally Posted By: captdale
Hi Jason - Can I connect this external GPS antenna from my old Lowrance Globalmap 2000 to my HDS-8? I have the HDS-8 in my center console (skeeter SK2000) and it takes forever to lock on. The 2000 locked on in like 90 seconds. CD



Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 02:18 AM

You cannot connect a gps ant directly into the HDS unit.. You need add the nmea 2000 net work and then connect the ext. gps ant like the LCG 4000 to that. take look at one of the first post that I made on this section and you will see a nmea net work back system.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 02:26 AM

Ah Jason thank you so much. Is the one in my pic a 4000 ? CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 02:40 AM

Jason - Do I only need the two "T's" , two 120 ohm term resistors and the two short cables or do i also need the power node ? CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 02:48 AM

Got my new system tonight. I was fooling around with the simulator but can't do structure scan in simulator, do I have to have it hooked up to structure scan to use simulator and see structur scan?

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 12:13 PM

Josh yes you do. It has to be connected to the LSS to sim structure scan.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/12 03:08 PM

Anybody know if I have to have the power node on the buss if I'm just connecting the external antenna ? This toy is way to expensive to blow it up. Thanks. CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 01:15 AM

Cam I do simulation with structure scan on the lss2? I found the directions for lss1 but it isn't the same menus on the newer systema

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 01:33 AM

You have to make sure the option for structure scan playback is turned on in the advanced menu. I think when I set my graph up there were a couple different options in the (either) wizard set up or it was the advanced menu. Can't remember, been too long. But I do remember it isn't the easiest thing in the world to get into si/di simulator, I have to jack with mine for a few minutes before I usually figure it out. And I know the menus pretty freaking good. Have you taken her out yet for her maiden voyage? If so, what did you think?

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 01:52 AM

Not yet, going tomorrow. I followed the directions for setting it up on a HDS1 but I don't have the same options as that on my HDS2

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 02:25 AM

Splint, I'll go out tomorrow and see how to get mine there. But it seems like you go into simulator (lss has to be on, btw) then there is a view option that you change in one of the menus. I just can't remember right now but I do remember it's one of the most complicated options to do.

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 02:34 AM

Ok thanks, the way I saw to do it was hit menu twice, go to system, go to advanced, go to features and on the website I saw it showed the option, but not on mine. I had the lss hooked up but nothing, oh well I will go to the real thing tomorrow.

Thanks grout

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 02:39 AM

Hi Jason - I need to know if I need the power node on the buss if the only thing I will be hooking up is the external gps antenna. The drawings are not clear to me as a NMEA newby. Anybody know ? - CD

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: captdale
Hi Jason - I need to know if I need the power node on the buss if the only thing I will be hooking up is the external gps antenna. The drawings are not clear to me as a NMEA newby. Anybody know ? - CD


Not me, I advoid the nmea like the plaque. Cap, you might need to mosey over to bassboatcentral.com and ask, those guys know the nmea setup pretty dang good.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 04:00 AM

Hey grout-scott. Thanks. I finally got it. Its on page 35 of the installation manual. VERY small lettering upper right hand corner. Apparently the NMEA buss has to be powered and the HDS units do not do that unlike some of the older units. Therefore the confusion of do i need it or not. I was very concerned as it was stated that you can blow up the unit if you do it wrong. Anyway its clear now. Now I just need to find out which antenna this is. Looks just exactly like a 4000, but the globalmap2000 manual says this is a NMEA 183 buss. Probably can't use it. The saga continues. Thanks for your input. CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 04:17 AM

Got it, menu twice, simulation, Advanced, select files, and select any of them that end in two. Also figured out snapshot, I will post some pics tomorrow, don't know if I will be able to sleep tonight.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/12 04:39 AM

Hey Grout-Scott: More good info. Both the 8 and the 10 have two NMEA183 connections so I can use this antenna. Also says the NMEA 2000 is 50 times faster than the 183 !! I might try it however as it doesn't cost anything. Just to see how it works. It was super fast on the globalmap and if it works on my HDS8 it sure is cheaper than a $200 4000 plus $50 for the buss. I think these antennas are about $50 on ebay if you have to buy one. If I do it I will post the results. CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/12 03:42 PM

I got to try out the new hds yesterday and it was amazing,, still have a lot to learn as well as trying to unlodge my Ethernet cable that got stuck under my boat somewhere. Overall very happy though

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 02:53 AM

Hi Jsplinter - Yes, these things are amazing. Now I need to learn how to interprit what it's showing me. I see lots of fish on deep structure but don't know how to interprit what I'm seeing. Could somebody please post some pics of what they think is deep water bass or suspended bass ? Sure would help. CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 02:57 AM

I can tell you what crappie looks like, have you checked out bassboatcentral? They have alot of information. Also it looks like most topic area in the freshwater fishing is getting an image interpretation sticky so keep an eye on those.

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 10:16 AM

Another Question About HDS-7 & Elite-5X-DSI ? ? ?

If I were to put both of these Units on my Bow, with both Transducers on my Trolling Motor would I get interfernece from the Units trying to read each others signals ? ? ?

Don't need to spend $500, only to find that I can't use the units like I want to.



keith

Posted By: Just_Old_Fisherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 10:40 AM

I have Elite 4X DSI on transom, Eagle 642C on transom & HDS 5X Gen2 on bow----HDS & Eagle interfere with each other but DSI interferes with neither. Think the DSI use much higher frequency than standard sonar.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 09:48 PM

Hi Kerry - I decided to take your advice and go with the LGC- 4000. That way I'll have the NMEA buss if I want to put something else on it. Problem is : I can't find anywhere that has the starter kit in stock. Any suggestions anybody ? CD

Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/12 11:08 PM

Try David at shut up and fish in the classifieds section

Posted By: bryanv

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/24/12 02:06 PM

Any tips on the settings for the structure scan.
The water column on mine is very cluttered. I've just started using it so I'm a long way from learning it completely. My side imaging looks really good. Contrast is set at 70%. Range is set at 60ft to both sides. I have the surface clarity on low and the noise reduction is on.

Bryan

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/24/12 07:08 PM

Try adjusting your surface clatiry. I have mine on high but im still new to it. Havnt had mine real long either.

Posted By: bryanv

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/25/12 11:19 PM

Thanks! I'm sure I'll get it dialed in after a few trips.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 01:42 AM

Hi - Well, getting there. Here is a pic of a sunken road 15 ft to the roadbed. There is a square culvert running under it. Sorrounding bottem is 20-25 ft. I dropped a perch on the culvert and caught a nice 5 lb channel cat. I am impressed with the SI. Looking at the pic, the side to side angle is at least 90 deg !! dale



Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 01:48 AM

This is what worked for me:I am also a beginner but this is working for me. CD

- make sure your transducer is level when you are ideling. Very very important.

- I think my surface clarity is set low but would have to check.

- these things are super sensitive so I have my sens set at I think 15. Maybe even lower.

- set the distance to higher than the water depth. You can see in the pic mine was not as high as it should have been.

Posted By: Chris B

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 02:05 AM

I have upgraded to the HDS 7. Last weekend i tried to delete all the existing trails. It worked but, now it leaves no trails and i wasn't able to figure out how to turn them back on. Thanks for any help.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 02:16 AM

I have zero experience with a seven and very little with an eight. sorry. CD

Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Chris B
I have upgraded to the HDS 7. Last weekend i tried to delete all the existing trails. It worked but, now it leaves no trails and i wasn't able to figure out how to turn them back on. Thanks for any help.


see link
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...ions_on_HDS.pdf

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:04 AM

this is really a newby question:

Say you have a HDS-8 on the dash and a HDS-7 on the trolling motor with the display on the bow. Both on the eithernet. What displays what ? Can you get the 7 (front one) to display on the 8 on the dash and vis versa ?. Or both on a split screen. How does having both on a buss work.? CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:07 AM

I'm sorry, I meant to say both connected to the NMEA 2000 buss not the eithernet buss. cd

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:11 AM

Now I have really confused myself. it shows ethernet on page 33 and nmea2000 on page 34. So which is it and why please ? cd

Posted By: Chris B

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
Originally Posted By: Chris B
I have upgraded to the HDS 7. Last weekend i tried to delete all the existing trails. It worked but, now it leaves no trails and i wasn't able to figure out how to turn them back on. Thanks for any help.


see link
http://www.bassfisher1.zoomshare.com/fil...ions_on_HDS.pdf


Thanks, i sure am enjoying my new graph. Just a little bit different than the X-15 i have been using.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:23 AM

Hey jsplinter - looking at your post again it seems to me you have it set pretty good. I would look at the sensitivity and set it low and check that out. Also, water flow (bubbles etc) past the transducer can cause the surface to be messed up. Try setting your upper limit to say 5 ft and the bottom whereever you want it. It then will not show surfact to five feet, just five feet to the bottom. Just MTCW CD

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/12 03:08 PM

I have looked in all my manuals and can not find the answer to thyis question:

How can I get the HDS-8 to display the coordinates on the bottom left corner of the screen when I am in SI or sonar mode only ?

CD

Posted By: bryanv

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/27/12 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: captdale
Hey jsplinter - looking at your post again it seems to me you have it set pretty good. I would look at the sensitivity and set it low and check that out. Also, water flow (bubbles etc) past the transducer can cause the surface to be messed up. Try setting your upper limit to say 5 ft and the bottom whereever you want it. It then will not show surfact to five feet, just five feet to the bottom. Just MTCW CD


Never thought about trying the lower the upper limit. I'll have to try that. I'm still getting alot of clutter in the water column which I'd bet is coming from my boat. It has flotation pods on the rear which I think is creating this.

Bryan

Posted By: bryanv

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/27/12 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: bryanv
Originally Posted By: captdale
Hey jsplinter - looking at your post again it seems to me you have it set pretty good. I would look at the sensitivity and set it low and check that out. Also, water flow (bubbles etc) past the transducer can cause the surface to be messed up. Try setting your upper limit to say 5 ft and the bottom whereever you want it. It then will not show surfact to five feet, just five feet to the bottom. Just MTCW CD


Never thought about trying to lower the upper limit. I'll have to try that. I'm still getting alot of clutter in the water column which I'd bet is coming from my boat. It has flotation pods on the rear which I think is creating this.

Bryan


Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/29/12 04:07 AM

Hi youall. Thought I would share this. This is what the culvert looked like before the lake was filled. Probably built by the same state or county guys. All the same. CD





Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/29/12 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: captdale
this is really a newby question:

Say you have a HDS-8 on the dash and a HDS-7 on the trolling motor with the display on the bow. Both on the eithernet. What displays what ? Can you get the 7 (front one) to display on the 8 on the dash and vis versa ?. Or both on a split screen. How does having both on a buss work.? CD



Guess nobody ever answered your question. If you want to run the external antenna for the HDS units then it runs through the nmea and if you want to run the digital guage set-up from the motor then you need the nmea. If you just want to tie the graphs together without an external antenna then you just use the ethernet.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/03/12 06:06 PM

Thankyou Grout-scott. I did hook up the LGC4000 on a Nmea buss. Sometimes seems to be working, other times not so much. I have a handheld that locks on a bunch of sats in like 50 seconds. The HDS takes a few minutes and sometimes like this morning it never did. When I have the ext ant is there some setup I have to do or does the HDS detect it automatically ? CD

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/04/12 12:47 AM

Not sure Capt, I'm kinda thinking you might have to go into and change the antenna to something else. But to be honest I don't have a clue, I just use the internal antenna.

Posted By: captdale

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/04/12 07:43 PM

Grout-scott : Jason had a link on how to do it on page one. I tried it but when it gets to "select the LGC4000, mine does not display that option. I know I have it hooked up right and I'm getting voltage to the NMEA power node. It just does not display that optio9n. I'll PM Jason and maybe he can clear it up CD

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/04/12 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: captdale
Grout-scott : Jason had a link on how to do it on page one. I tried it but when it gets to "select the LGC4000, mine does not display that option. I know I have it hooked up right and I'm getting voltage to the NMEA power node. It just does not display that optio9n. I'll PM Jason and maybe he can clear it up CD


Wise person to ask. azn

Posted By: Pearlandtexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/07/12 01:57 AM

i have a lowrance question....... can you link an hds 8 to an elite 5 dsi???

Posted By: Wirebender

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/08/12 01:19 AM

I may be overthinking this, but...
I have two separate gps modules for my two 1198s, connected with an ethernet cable with sharing enabled. Since the waypoints are tagged to the gps module that created them, when I want to download my waypoints from my units on the boat to a SD card,in order to keep my units from being overloaded with waypoints, should I have a separate card for each unit with labels as to which unit the download came from? In the reverse, if I want to transfer waypoints from a SD card to my units, in order not to overload the units with waypoints, again do i use a separate dedicated SD card for each unit, or just one SD card to upload separately to the two units?

Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/13/12 03:29 AM

Jason need a little help please. One of our three HDS 5's was working fine one minute and then the next minute it just turned itself off. It won't power back on. It is about 3 years old. What should we do?

Posted By: Bowhunt2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/14/12 11:30 AM

HDS 10 lowrance
I have a Lawrence HDS StructureScan HD and had no issues but now the StructureScan HD it starting reading 0-5' no matter what deep of water I'm in go Through the settings it comes back to normal and then goes back to read and 0-5'anybody else experiencing this the regular sonar works fine

Posted By: Bowhunt2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/14/12 11:37 AM


 

talk to Lowrence telling me it's my module $360.02 it's 2 months out warranty.

Just talk to Larance again they told me try a soft reset .


 
 

Is there any way to test the module once I buy one they won't take it back if that's not the issue if it ends being a software issue I like to test it with a new module but I don't no any one that will do that I bought it 4-02-10 pretty sad I bought five units from these people

Posted By: Gambler James

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/12 02:43 PM

What would I need to hook up a HDS 5 head unit to the bow of my boat? I have a HDS 7 with structure scan on the console and wanted to hook the 5 up so I could use the structure scan from the bow.

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/12 10:31 PM

Just a normal install and an ethernet cable running to the LSS1 box and you'll be able to see the down and side scans. They'll just be 20' or so behind you.

Posted By: soonerbassn

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/18/12 10:29 AM

Just plug in a 15 ft ethernet cable into the Ls unit.

Posted By: Texcwby

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/12 07:01 PM

Ok. So I have an HDS5 without the LSS1/2. I See these screen shots all over the forum however mine dont look anything close to these. I have a crappy picture



Dont ask me why but I like the green. Let me say I am upgrading from a Eagle that was made about 20 years ago. I have adjusted some settings but nothing major. Mostly did the colors and then everything else on mapping side trails waypoints etc. I turned on Fish ID so I know what i was looking at. Any help is appericated, as I am lost as a 4 year old with a new toy that i have had for 4 years. I mounted the transducer to an existing bracket that was the same.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/12 07:28 PM

So I went out for my maiden Lss-1 trip this past Sunday. Took my 78 year old dad fishing. We caught fish on both these returns and had fun finding "treasures" to take pictures of. My question and concern is my lower unit. I think I am "shadowing" off my lower unit. Is anyone seeing that? And one last question, can you slow down/speed up individual screens? Notice in my first screen capture, the down scan is way faster than my structure scan. And the hard line in the second picture is a downrigger ball I was using to test my sensitiviy/contrast






Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/12 12:41 AM

Wildman, the speed looks the same to me. In fact they even measure the same distance from the top/front of the screen. You got it setup pretty well, nice clear pics.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/12 01:41 PM

Well, that is good to know. I have the LSS-1 transducer pretty far off of center of the boat and it is on a Panga Marine Skiff so balance is a problem with port or starboard passenger weight or "wave" action from wind or passing boats (jet fleas).

We are Striper fishing it tomorrow so hopefully I can practice more with it. What a great tool.

So no lower unit shadowing that you can see?

Posted By: DLALLDER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/12 08:29 PM

My buddy has a HDS 10 at the console & a HDS8 on the bow. He has a mild case of demetia and has not learned to use either unit and I am just as dumb. Here is my first question: Why does the bow unit take 3-10 minutes to come on? Unit will display the Lowrance name and 3-10 minutes later will start scrolling across the bottom and will come on finally. What is the problem? Second question: We(I) cannot get the 10 to set up and show what is on either side of the boat, where is info helping to set it up so the scan mode will show? Thanks

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/21/12 01:34 AM

Wildman, are you referring to the line at the top (center) of the water column? If so it could be the skeg/lwr unit. I get five lines like that from the sonar bouncing around inside my jackplate, not sure theres alot you can do to fix that if it is the lower unit.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/21/12 01:40 AM

Dlallder, the unit has something wrong with it. It should come on, show Lowrance for 30-60 seconds and then have the agreement/safety page. You could try a soft reset and see if it helps.

On the 10, are you saying that you can't get the structure scan to show side scan mode? Just gonna ask a few questions and answer them. Do you have the LSS module? If so, are you getting down images? By answering those I can help you better.

One more thing, if you really want to learn alot about Lowrance go over to bassboatcentral.com. Enter the boards section and find the Lowrance page. Lots and lots of info there.

Posted By: DLALLDER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/21/12 01:40 PM

grout-scout, I will try the soft reset on the 8. On the 10, no i can not get side scan but that may be because I don't know which buttons to push & in what order. Yes the unit has the LSS. Thanks for any help you can give.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/21/12 05:24 PM

Grout -

Yep, that is where I am looking. The bright center return line. I noticed on the 2000 posts I read :-) that might be the lower unit interfering with the transmit of the signal but I am jacked has high as I can get. If the shots look solid and clean then I am good to go. You said they were pretty good, so am am calling it done. More pictures to come, I am sure.

Posted By: EarRings

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/24/12 12:32 AM

I have a lcx27c on the bow and a hds8 gen 2 with the lss2, I'm trying to run both units GPS off the hds8 and I already have Ethernet hooked between them and I can't get them to share, do I need to run a antenna cable to each unit to get them to share? If not what am I missing?

Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 02:06 AM

I understand its very important to get your transduser level with your boat. I have a HDS 8 with the gen 2 side imiging and down scan. When I installed the LSS1 transducer i just made it level with the top cap of my boat. But I got to thinking the boat dont really set level in the water, its a little rear heavy. Should I adjust the transducer up to get better quality?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 11:37 AM

The most accurate way I know of is to bring a level in the boat with you next time out. Load the boat with full tanks , your fishing buddy, full livewells etc. However you would normally weight the boat.

Put the level on the back deck and mark it. Apply that same angle to the LSS transducer and you should be pretty close to where you need to be.

Brian

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 11:59 AM

3313

If you make the LSS transducer level with the boat, you will probably not be happy with the clarity of your images.

What you want if to have the transducer level with the water surfaace when traveling at 4-6 MPH.

From an earlier page of this thread:

"Like you, I was also discouraged my first couple of trips. Got to noticing that vertical objects had a slight curve to them. That can't be, so I got my digital level in the boat and measured the angle of the boat when traveling at 4-6 MPH. Got back on the trailor and adjusted the fore-to-aft angle of the side scan transducer so it would be level when moving at 4-6 MPH. Wow; big difference in image quality."

BTW you can get a great little digital level app for your iPhone.

Posted By: Gambler James

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 05:55 PM

What trolling motor transducer would I use on a Lowrance elite 5x?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 06:34 PM

Just so we're clear, putting a level on your back deck and applying that same angle to your LSS transducer will make your transducer parallel to the surface of the water.

Brian

Posted By: Bobby Feazel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Just so we're clear, putting a level on your back deck and applying that same angle to your LSS transducer will make your transducer parallel to the surface of the water.

Brian


You are exactly correct as long as we account for bow rise when we travel (3-6 MPH). Bow rise can amount to several degreees.

Therefore, the angle should only be measured when at the appropriate travel speed with the appropriate load.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Bobby Feazel
Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Just so we're clear, putting a level on your back deck and applying that same angle to your LSS transducer will make your transducer parallel to the surface of the water.

Brian


You are exactly correct as long as we account for bow rise when we travel (3-6 MPH). Bow rise can amount to several degreees.

Therefore, the angle should only be measured when at the appropriate travel speed with the appropriate load.


But of course. We don't read structure scan sitting still. wink

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/12 09:40 PM

You just have to look at the results you are getting at level. The best advise I read in this 20 pages was to not tighten up so tight and then adjust in the water (means getting yourself wet or get some chest waders) If you are getting less on the left then move it some left of level. if you are getting too much on top. move the level bow to stern...... Worked for me. Now if I can get the dam thing to stop shutting down and rebooting on me.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr








Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/26/12 01:18 AM

Thanks guys, I never did think to bring a level in the boat with me.

Posted By: EarRings

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/26/12 09:41 PM

How are u suppose to network the gps on a lcx to a hds unit?

Posted By: Creamlevel Creek Kennels

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 02:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Gambler James
What trolling motor transducer would I use on a Lowrance elite 5x?


The transducer that comes with it. Not sure I understand the question.



keith

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 02:15 PM

Grout-Scout and others, I have a question on your pictures compared to mine and others. I don't know the terminology so apology ahead a time for my lack of it.

I am getting good returns but noticed that my white center line is choppy compared to some others. I am in smooth waters, 10 to 30' and at about 3 to 4 mph yet I am seeing on side and down a sloppy white center line. Why?

Also, I have a double shadow feed back off to both port and starboard at the same place. I can adjust down my contrast but then I get too dark of shadowing/return. What is this "dark line" on both sides?

Depth - I changed all my fishing modes, but was trying to scan and down image 80 to 120' and the deeper I went, the worse my return. Is there a trick to shooting deep water?

Lastly, is there somewhere that "settings" are listed so that I can compare to how I have mine set v. the way the "pros" have theirs set?

Here is an example photo of the white broken lines and dark shadowing on port and starboard and my downimage with the white broken line at 0 to 4ish feet.









Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Gambler James
What trolling motor transducer would I use on a Lowrance elite 5x?


You would need either the PDT-WSU (106-50) or just use the transom mount transducer that comes with the unit and get the trolling motor adapter TMB-S (51-45) ....About $20.00 shipped.

Brian

Posted By: BMCD

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 05:32 PM

Man I am jealous, I cannot even come close to seeing images like this. I am going to try and lower the LSS ducer to see if I can get nice images like all these on the forum.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 05:40 PM

Heck Wildman, I think your pics/returns are better than mine! The top white lines are coming from something on the boat, it might be the lower unit or a jackplate. I get them from my jackplate.


As far as the double dark return lines on the lake floor, those just appear to be a ledge or dropoff. The sonar can't see so it comes back as a dark or blank spot (shadow, so to speak). Same thing happens behind bridge pillars, trees, rocks, etc.

Deep water? About as deep as these work is 100ft.


The only settings you can change on the ss is contrast, 455 or 800 & distance.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: BMCD
Man I am jealous, I cannot even come close to seeing images like this. I am going to try and lower the LSS ducer to see if I can get nice images like all these on the forum.


Yes he has great pics and doesn't even know it. Guess we all want just a little bit more thumb.

Posted By: BMCD

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 05:56 PM

Let me rephrase I get nothing outside of 20ft.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 06:44 PM

No you dudes don't understand, when I go scuba diving I see things a lot more clearly. The Lowrance commercial said......... :-)

guess I need to shut up and just fish if they look that good to you'll. Maybe it is my "dead wood" is just not thick limbed trees. And the drop-off or "ridge" makes perfect since on the shadowing. I never put that together but do know when I go over a hole or a hump it shadows so I think you nailed it.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/27/12 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: BMCD
Let me rephrase I get nothing outside of 20ft.


Can you post a screen shot? What does nothing outside of 20ft mean exactly? Can't get side image over 20ft?

Wildman, you seem like you might like this forum too.

http://www.bbcboards.net/lowrance-garmin-sonar-gps/

http://www.bbcboards.net/lowrance-image-interpretation/

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/28/12 04:41 PM

Groutscout, I read through all those too before posting here. I wish I could get some straight help from Lowrance. The only thing that is aggraviting me with my head unit is the reboot [censored]. It seems that it cannot keep up with my button pushing. If I try to get menus up or move softkeys too much, it locks up and then reboots; sometimes over and over.

I contacted Lowrance and have yet to get a straight answer even after all their direction.

Thanks for the links. Some lurkers will benifit from those on research.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/28/12 06:03 PM

Yep Lowrance seems to have a serious reboot problem and they sure are denying it for sure. I'm guessing they don't have a fix so they are playing stupid. I only had it happen once and after buying a new battery it helped my problem, my cranker didn't have quite enough juice.

Are you running a gen 1 graph or gen 2 graph? If gen 1, which update do you have 4.0 or 4.1?

Posted By: TomCat3367

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/28/12 07:34 PM

I put an older lms 334c-igps unit on the front and am installing an old 2008 FHS pro. I must be missing a step because it does not appear to be working. I go to map data and it shows Lowrance and the files show it to be there. Is there a upload step I am missing? Can't find anything else in the manual to assist me. Thank you

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/12 02:52 AM

hey guys... can anyone help me, i think i need some help atleast... this is a pic from my graph of a redfish school... how come the arches are always "broken" i never get the solid non broken arches. I have tried all kinds of sensitivy settings but higher just makes all these "speckles" on the screen... I have noise rejection on "low"... unit is HDS 5

Another little school but the arches are still broken


Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/12 04:08 PM

"my cranker didn't have quite enough juice" Do tell? Because this is one of the "trouble shooting" issues I had to go through was "Is the unit hooked to a aux. battery or your cranking battery". My answer was both. How can I Have 10.9 to 11.2 on a start, and 12.0 12.08 on stand and not have "enough juice". Don't sound right to me. Is it the Amp pull that may what they are saying? Well, mine does the reboot running, idling, off, on.........

I also have a SEVER heat problem. My LCD get so hot that you can not lay the back of your hand on it for more than 2 seconds before you HAVE to move it or it would burn you.

It is a Gen 1 and I am running 4.1 update.


On your response to the red fish school. It is a tight packed ball of fish that is returning numberous pings back off of several fish and they are sharing the same return. Nice school!

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/12 06:21 PM

I got a return number to send it back in. Now the question is what can I expect for a turn around before I start lighting up asses over at Lowrance.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/29/12 07:42 PM

so are you saying that is normal? The reason i don't think it's "normal" is because my buddy on his boat he's got the hds10 and he gets amazing clear shots on his and i've even tried using his exact settings and still can't get as good as shots as him... here is a shot of a school when i was fishing with him for comparison...to me his arches just look more "complete" and more clear.. do you think so too? and if you notice on his you can even see his downrigger weights running at about 20ft... on mine i can't see my weights usually... sometimes i can see them but not always, and it's usually when the weights are shallow..say 10ft. or so


Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/12 02:44 AM

JSB, I'm not expert on sonar but it could be something as simple as the angle of the transducers. Or if it's a shoot thru, one hull might be thicker or have air bubbles, etc. I know the arches are prettier but they don't really mean anything extra, if your getting blobs, dots, lines and red splotches thats all that really matters.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/12 05:18 AM

hmmm i have tried messing with angle of the transduer and never really gotten any better, but i know how finicky they are so might have still had it wrong.. i've tried flat, angled front, angled back... i forgot to mention earlier that and even sometimes the unit will not read bottom it can't find it and flips from 70ft. to 10ft. back and forth and won't read fish or bait. I can't seem to figure out what's wrong with it at all.. I do know it's not working right that's for sure lol... I agree "kinda" on the clear arches thing, except sometimes it's easier to spot reds on the bottom when they are not schooling when it's clutter free. I just know this unit is capable of better picture just trying to get the max out of the unit.. cheers

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/12 01:02 PM

You running a tunnel hull? Maybe post a pic of where the sonar ducer is at on the transom and somebody can spot something that might not be just right.

I have an extra ducer if you need to try it to see if that is the problem.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/12 03:51 PM

no sir, i have a 13' boston whaler.. no tunnel... here are some pics of the transducer... i have tried moving the ducer where it's at now is the third different spot...




Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/12 01:21 AM

Def. low enough. About the only thing I can see that I might try (and you might have already tried) is to tilt the back of the ducer down slightly. I think the nose cone is lower right now and I believe the back is supposed to be a hair lower.


Maybe you and your buddy need to swap graphs for a few minutes to see if yours gets arches with his set up.

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/12 01:29 PM

Pictures tell a thousand words. You're much too low, much too close to the transom and likely too far to starboard.
Safe boating...

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/12 04:22 PM

whenever I had it higher if someone like 200#'s sat up front it wouldn't sit low enough in water would get all kinds of bubbles etc... any closer to the middle of the boat then its where the engine is and it was real bad there and there's also a fin under the boat that's in the way... if u look at pic u can see the 2 other spots I had it mounted (where I repaired the holes) I don't know what else to do!?!?!

Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/12 06:09 PM

An unbalanced load, or changing weight distribution will throw everything off, even your prop pitch should change. When adding or deleting a big fisherman (or woman) in the bow, you can expect to experience a 13 Whaler transom to raise...I had a 13 at one time. At speed though, you should be able to raise the bow with proper hp. How big is the captain?

Please provide more info. Are you wanting to use your electronics at speed and at drift or simply at drift? You generally always set up a boat for performance (to include your electronics)with proper weight and its distribution as recomended by the mfgr. Anything else is a compromise. In my previous post to you, my theory stands!

Safe boating...

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 12:16 AM

well.. i am wanting to read the graph at trolling speeds with my outboard... so anywhere from 3.0-5.0 mph... don't really need to read it going any faster.. i weigh about 180lb's... and i do agree you are correct about saying it's too low, but like i said it's the best i thought i could do? I am open for all suggestions, i just got frustrated because everything i've tried hasn't worked. Im not trying to debunk your ideas or suggestions, just trying to clarify my situation.. thanks alot for your help sir.. where i had it before it was getting way too much prop disturbace when it was closer to the middle of the boat.. since you've had a 13 whaler you know how narrow they are! just not much transom space to work with

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 12:53 AM

Well, I'm going to stick with the try swapping graphs for a day test, heck it'll only take 2 minutes to try. It will tell you more than anyone can do typing to you. It will eliminate the is it: the ducer, the current update #, electrical interference, etc. Try your unit on his setup, since you know his is working like you'd like yours too. Best place to start.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 04:07 PM

JSB, grout-scout is on part of it. But a dirty transducer will cause some of the "noise" you are seeing too. Expecially in Calavaeras! Not to be mean, but your ducer looks pretty crusty by the back of it.


Fishing calaveras I know that sometimes, depending on water generation, boat traffic, water temp, bait consentration.... and on and on is how clear my returns are. Also, you are running a HDS 5 which does not have the same pixel ratio as a HDS 10. The 10 can collect and report clearer pixeled returns than the 5 just because of the vertical pixel ratio. The HDS 10 looks to be on palette 13 and yours appears to be on maybe palette 1. I don't know anything about the HDS 5 but that might be another issue. My bet is transducer issue, and biggest is the pixel return on the vertical side of your screen.

One last thing, are you running at 83 or 200 I can't tell by your photo.





Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 06:23 PM

thanks wildman for your help!! i am running it on 200hz... just for grins i tried 83 the other day and it was allllll messed up lol... I do indeed run on pallete 1 just from personal preference.. does that really affect the "clearness" of the arches? I think you are right if the pixels are better on his unit that would make total sense to me! ... the water temps as you know are high 90*'s, water DIRTY as hell lol... and at times TONS of bait... im guessing all those things don't help, but my buddy is fishing the same lake and gets good returns why i started thinking something is wrong with my unit! I tried spraying some toilet bowl cleaner on the back of the ducer to clean that calcium buildup off but it wouldn't come off.. might try a nylon scrub brush... I didn't really think that was an issue since i thought the signal was shot from the bottom side which is clean on my unit.. Guess it can't hurt to clean it and try! Thanks for all the input fellas!

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 08:12 PM

after doing more research I am wondering if what you guys think... I run all my cables that come from back of boat (steering,throttle,fishfinder,engine wiring) all through this channel that you see pictured... is it possible that the engine wiring harness is interfering causing disturbance? if it matters it's a 35 HP johnson 1977 model... I wanted to get some input before I un-ran the cables thru the channel because they are a pain in the @ss to get back through that narrow channel. If you guys think that could be it, it might be worth trying.. problem is the control box is on the other side of the console so running it on that side it will come "close" to the engine wiring aswell... thoughts?


Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 09:00 PM

Does your set up on the HDS have an option to choose the model number of your ducer? You might have it set on generic and need to set it on the true model #

No, your images are not showing noise that I see. How old or how much abuse has your ducer been through?

Lastly, are you catching fish? If so, then I would say that it ain't that broke.

If you think you are getting sorry HDS 5 shots, jump in the boat with me next time and I will show you some Cali side images. (insert evil laugh)

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/12 09:55 PM

yes I have tried choosing my transducer from the list instead of "generic" option and couldn't tell a difference!... yes I am catching fish but when my graph can't read the depth or isn't working right its very frustrating! and definetely lowers the chance of finding fish with no graph!! the reason I saw interference is because there's all those blue dots on the screen... unit is probably 2 years old and hasn't seen any abuse at all just fishing.. never hits bottom or anything

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/12 02:49 AM

O.K. came to my final conclusion! It appears JSB and Wildman are entirely too dang picky, both have pretty dang decent returns but both just want to milk it just a little bit more. If both of you 2 are fishing Calaveras why not meet there and compare settings, etc, etc... Man sometimes it's almost impossible for people to be happy. bang

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/12 02:25 PM

Grout Scout, like I said (jokingly) when I can get my pictures to look like what I see underwater I will be happy. And don't you know the sweetist milk is in the last two tugs? grin I can't fish with JSB. He is too dang picky.

P.S. My head unit is on its way back to Lowrance for repair/replacement on the reboot issue and I put my jackplate on and it cleaned up the "white" surface noise lines to a PERFECT return. (grin).

JSB, post a email and I will get with you the next time I am out there. I can help you with a "calaveras" setting.

Have you went to another lake and tried to mark fish in a "fresh" water lake? Because of all the air bubbles, shad farts, bait balls, water turbulance..... yada yada in Calaveras, you have to remember that lake is a hot water lake. The water has a large alge and bacteria growth both of which (density) will be returned on sounding as some type of return.

Try this the next time you are there. Put a 8' section of a sein out with a rope bow to stern. Weight the sein in the middle with a brick. Lower the sein to 20 feet and slowly pull it up. You will see in the sein the TINY TINY shad babies by the 100s and other floating alge that you are getting your "noise" off of.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/12 06:46 PM

haha guys.. I am a bit picky for sure I don't know anyone who wouldn't when u spens so much on a unit I expect it to work right!! the main reason I believe my unit isn't working to full potential is because when I'm on my buddies boat his is crystal clear retuns on the exact same lake! never tried graph at other lakss besides braunig.... but my main complaint isn't I'm complaining about those pics I posted but more that A LOT of times the graph simply doesn't work

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/12 06:54 PM

Ok, I will give you $200 for the graph and transducer; just saying, if it is broke and all.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/12 09:05 PM

haha hell nah, cuz it works 60% of the time.. it actually reads the depth of the lake.. like it is supposed to do..other times...ehhhhh broken! have to reset the entire unit and restart all that BS! which takes away from finding schools.. the only problem my buddy has is after a long days fishing his gets "lines" on it (so does mine) because it gets hot.. mind you we both have Bimini tops.. imagine that... a fishfinder that can't stand the heat.. because most everyone else i know fishes inside in the A/C. lol

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/12 02:19 PM

$225.99 and not a dime more! Ok, I will go to 226.00 If you see the blue Panga out, swing by and say hey. More than likely I will not be out to Cali anymore until Mid August.

Posted By: Jerryboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/12 06:19 PM

looking for someone to do an install of a Lowrance in FW area. PM me

Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/12 08:15 PM

It looks like your transducer isint level. Put your boat in the water and while idling put a level on top of your boat and mark it. and then when u have the boat out get the transducer level with where it was when u had it in the water. Also level it from left to right. This may help

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/12 12:10 PM

jsb if you haven't tried it you might set your ping speed up and see if that helps hold the bottom. Mine was doing that with my hds and I had to move it to 19 to get it to read consistantly.

As for your arches the boat speed and the location of the fish within the cone area with have a big effect on that. Minute adjustments in sens my help your other problem.

Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/12/12 12:38 AM

I have a question, When they say dont run your transducer by wires that are electrical, how are you supposed to run your transducer wire without it comming in contact with power wires. Will this make the transducer not work at all? If ran beside power wires or will it just make noise and put spots on the graph. I was wondering if that plastic wire loom would help any.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/12/12 02:44 AM

I have both of my graphs close to the electrical wires and I don't have any problems. Now you will sometimes have problems up at the trolling motor graph when you turn the trolling motor on, it is normal and some people get interference and some don't. If you do, you can buy a choke (made by Hbird) for tm's and it'll take care of the interference. Yes I know you have a Lowrance but Hbird has addressed the issue and it works for all brands.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/12 02:39 AM

yeah, my ducer cable runs in the same channel as every other wire for my boat... also, since you guys said i was supposed to clean the calcium off the back off the ducer.. what works?!??! I have tried almost everything (xcept muriatic acid, which i know will work lol) but don't want to ruin the transducer... here's a pic


Posted By: Captain Chris

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/12 11:50 AM

"CLR, "LIMEAWAY" or soak in a baggie of white vinegar.

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/12 02:50 PM

limeaway will clean anything! You might have to put it on a sponge and soak the ducer a little while. That thing is a bit crusty. :-)

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/12 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: wildman
limeaway will clean anything! You might have to put it on a sponge and soak the ducer a little while. That thing is a bit crusty. :-)


Gotta Love Cali!!!! lol

Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/14/12 02:58 AM

and while your at it you might as well clean your boat too hehe smile

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/16/12 02:38 AM

haha, not even worth it... it just builds right back up! just a waste of time and tooooo much work

Posted By: wildman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/16/12 02:57 PM

A man that expects perfect images, but keeps a less than perfect boat. :-)

Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/17/12 03:05 AM

If I run a HDS 10 on the console and a HDS 8 on the TM do I only need one LSS box for both units?

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/12 01:15 AM

a clean boat doesn't help me find fish... but a working graph does smile

Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/12 02:49 AM

Very true.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/12 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Gonzz
If I run a HDS 10 on the console and a HDS 8 on the TM do I only need one LSS box for both units?

yes, only 1 is needed

Posted By: pepop

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/12 07:25 PM

Only 1 is needed but you will only get side scan/down scan from wherever the LSS transducer is mounted (usually the transom so the HDS8, when in ss or ds mode will be looking off the back of the boat, not the tm.

Posted By: pepop

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/12 07:30 PM

I have a question, can someone tell me exactly where on the Elite5 DSI "cigar" transducer the crystal is located? I want to run my E5 DSI & my E5 Combo both on the TM and would like to have the transducer's one if front of the other but in doing that, the skimmer sticks out over the tip of the DSI 'cigar". Will it interfere with the DSI signal?

Posted By: Unhooked

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/21/12 03:55 AM

Here's a question for a hds guru I have a hds7 gen 2 with LSS 2 and hds 5X in the front the 5 x won't pickup anything from the LSS unless the 7 is in chart mode then it works fine is that normal or do have problems need help please

Posted By: Used Nitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/23/12 03:40 AM

Anybody know why my HDS5 is leaving that white line after I take it out of structure scan? I have to power it down to get rid of it and it doesn't do it every time. Doesn't let me cancel navigation like a trail or heading to a waypoint.

Posted By: jsb91010

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/24/12 02:39 AM

damn... thanks guys today at the lake i was getting WAY better returns and graph actually kept track of the bottom... even going 5mph in some slop!

Posted By: rock crawler

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 06:19 AM

Ok, so I installed my transducers today but I think I might have a problem. How much lower does my LSS2 transducer need to be. I think where it is mounted, it's going to read the other transducer. I'm just really limited on places to mount my stuff. I called the guys at transducer saver and they said that a 2" spacer is the largest they sell. Will this be enough to eliminate interference?







Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 12:39 PM

I believe you will have some blockage of starboard side scan imaging with the transducers positioned that way.

Best thing to do is get on the water and test it. The extender plate from TSS may help but you really need to see how bad it is first before doing anything else.

Brian

Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 07:35 PM

Looking for some insight on adjustments for my HDS10. Took it out for the first time on the new boat (kayak) and not happy with the images. So before I go screwing around with every imaginable setting, can you guys provide me with a few pointers? This is traveling at about 3-3.5mph

Here are a few images I took. Looks to be a lot of clutter.






Here is my current transducer placement. When in the water it sits 3-6" below the surface depending on how I have the boat loaded.





Thanks in advance smile

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 07:50 PM

Looks like your unit is in night mode. I would turn that off.

The install looks fine so I don't think you have any issues there. Try palette # 9 and turn your contrast down to around mid 60's on the Structure scan and see what you think.

Brian

Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 08:02 PM

Yep is was in night mode. I went out and turned that off and changed palette's. I will give that a try. Anything else I need to use as a "starting point"?

These are my other settings:

noise rejection: low
surface clarity: off
scroll speed: normal
frequency: 800
structure surface clarity: low
structure noise rejection: on

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 08:07 PM

Those are good starting points and everyone has their own personal preference on settings. I run sensitivity close to 0 on 2D sonar as I prefer very little "clutter" on my screen. If I can follow my drop shot as it sinks to the bottom, that's good enough for me. I only want to see predator fish and bait fish.

Spend some time on the water making those changes so you can see immediately how it affects your screen and whether or not it's what you want.

Brian

Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/12 08:36 PM

thanks

Posted By: UTMallard

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/12 04:56 PM

I've asked this question several times (not on this thread) and still cant find the answer. I have an HDS 7 and would like to view sonar+downscan+chart, all on the same screen and cant get this view to come up. It is not an option from the "pages" screen and am wondering if there is another way to view this on my screen? Any input would be appreciated!

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/12 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: UTMallard
I've asked this question several times (not on this thread) and still cant find the answer. I have an HDS 7 and would like to view sonar+downscan+chart, all on the same screen and cant get this view to come up. It is not an option from the "pages" screen and am wondering if there is another way to view this on my screen? Any input would be appreciated!

I know on a HDS 10 you can do this by selecting the sidescan+sonar+chart. When all 3 come up make sure your sidescan window is selected and then change the sidescan to downscan only. I do the last step using the softkey in the bottom right corner. I know your 7 dosnt have softkeys but you should be able to look through the menus and find it somewhere. Hope this helps.

Posted By: trlrman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/12 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: UTMallard
I've asked this question several times (not on this thread) and still cant find the answer. I have an HDS 7 and would like to view sonar+downscan+chart, all on the same screen and cant get this view to come up. It is not an option from the "pages" screen and am wondering if there is another way to view this on my screen? Any input would be appreciated!
what download are you running ? i may be wrong but i think you are going to need 4.0 for gen1 units to get the 3 way. if its gen2 you have i can't help.

Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/12 09:51 PM

I believe you can go to the screen you want. Hold the pages button down to highlight that particular screen then go to menu.

Posted By: pepop

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/31/12 01:44 AM

This has probably been asked but I can't find it. I just got started with an HDS8 Gen2 w/ LSS2 and it's GREAT. I'd like to save some sonar/structure scan logs to a memory card but I'm having trouble figuring it out. I don't doubt it's something simple I'm missing. Anybody wanna jump in?

Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/12 05:02 AM

Anyone know what this stuff is? I was fishing tonight and came across this and took a screen shot.




Posted By: pepop

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/12 03:25 PM

Looks like a pallet.

Posted By: MrYby

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/12 05:43 PM

I have a 2006 Lowrance LMS 332-c. Looking for a Navonics card or compatible that has Southern US Lakes. Lowrance tells me that the current SD cards are not compatible.

If you have one and will sell it, email me with your price.

Martin Yarborough
martin@mpttech.com

Posted By: C Worthy

Need some HDS 10 Gen2 w LSS-2 Palette help - 08/03/12 01:49 AM

I am really serious about pulling the trigger on the HDS 10 Gen 2 but the ones at Cabella's only had 8 palettes. From what I could tell, #6 was the only really usable color. Does the HDS 10 Gen 2 have a #9 palette and is it the blue palette. I don't understand why there are so many palettes and most of them are not that usable. Please let me know what you think. I really need some help in what direction to go. And do you think that the images on the HDS are better than the Humminbird 1198 or are they about the same. Lot of money on the line and I have looked at both and still don't know which way to go.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Need some HDS 10 Gen2 w LSS-2 Palette help - 08/03/12 02:26 AM

Yep tough call! I own 2 hds units and plan to buy a bird when the new updated 998's come out. Not sure why the graph is missing blue? Both my gen 1 & 2 have #9 blue. Some of the other colors work at diff times but to be honest I use 9, 6 and the bright green one the most. Sometimes the red one is good In full sun. Buy the one you can figure out how to work.

Posted By: C Worthy

Re: Need some HDS 10 Gen2 w LSS-2 Palette help - 08/03/12 02:52 AM

The bad thing is if you only have their demo running to judge the detail in the images then they both look pretty good but the real question is how do they do when put to work. I have spent so much time in the stores messing with these that I don't think that I would have a problem operating either one. I just sold my 898 because I really need a bigger screen with my crapola eyesight frown

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Need some HDS 10 Gen2 w LSS-2 Palette help - 08/03/12 03:21 AM

Both work great but if you only fish shallow water go with the bird. It has a wider span on 455. Each has pros and cons.

Posted By: Pearlandtexan

Re: Need some HDS 10 Gen2 w LSS-2 Palette help - 08/07/12 04:38 AM

Question about my lowrance hds8

I have a navionics platinum mapping card, and i was at an underwater bridge that i have waypoints at, now the navionics card said that the bridge was like 150 yds to the west? is there something i have done wrong? please help...

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/12 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: pepop
This has probably been asked but I can't find it. I just got started with an HDS8 Gen2 w/ LSS2 and it's GREAT. I'd like to save some sonar/structure scan logs to a memory card but I'm having trouble figuring it out. I don't doubt it's something simple I'm missing. Anybody wanna jump in?


You can get that on the sonar menu under log data. You have to tell it where you want it to log by highlighting and choosing an sd card insted of internal. Be sure to highlight all channels or you will only get 2d sonar.

Posted By: bulldoger

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/12/12 03:32 AM

I bought a used 95 Ranger with Lowrance units. One is old and the web site says downloads are availalbe for it. The last owner said he never did update downloads. Can you tell me what cord/cable I would need for a Lowrance unit?? I have always used Hummingbirds before so Lowrance is new to me.
I am in the proces of downloading the owner manuel but did not see anything in it on line about updates.

Thank you..

Posted By: C Worthy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/12 01:21 PM

Does the unit you have have a card slot. If it does, then you download the update to your computer and save it to the SD card. When you put the card in the unit and turn it on, it should automatically install the update. If your unit does not have a card slot, then someone on here with more experience than I will need to help you. Good luck.

Posted By: bulldoger

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/12 04:16 PM

Thanks for the advice. Yes it has a card slot. Another friend told me the same thing, load the card then the unit will upload on start up.

Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/13/12 05:32 PM

Does anyone know if there is a way to change the distance you are scanning to each side of the boat where you can scan farther to one side than the other? Say if im scanning parallel to the bank 40' from the bank, then bank is on my left side with some deep water to my right. Is there a way I can change settings to scan say 30' left and 60' right? Just curious about this because this past weekend I was in a situation simular to this and felt I was wasting a lot of my screen on the left side of my boat and not getting as good of detail on the right. I know a simple way to fix this would be to keep the boat a little farther off the bank and scan equal distances to each side but I was wanting to use my downscan in a certain depth range.

Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/14/12 01:06 AM

One of our Lowrance HDS 5's will not power on. Lowrance said it would cost 3 or 4 hundred to fix. Any other ideas on getting it fixed?

Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/15/12 04:49 PM

Is there a way I can change settings to scan say 30' left and 60' right?


NO

Posted By: crowslegend

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/16/12 05:34 PM

Have a ? My down scan works great,but when i switch to side scan left and right,the left scan has a good picture but the right is just a grey screen any ideas?

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/16/12 05:40 PM

Do you have pics you can post of your install and the location of the LSS transducer ?

Does the Gray side change on you screen if you go in to the unit and "flip left right" signal ?

Brian

Posted By: Paul - Lake Fork

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/12 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Jason Gilstrap
The GPS refresh rates on Lowrance HDS units come from the factory with a default “auto” setting. This auto setting adjusts the GPS refresh rate based on your speed. Some settings work pretty well from the factory, but this is not one of them. If you’re speeding down the lake, the refresh rate is fast. If you’re idling slowly down a ledge, the refresh rate is very slow and does not update the micro movements. This causes serious update delays… causing your unit to live in the past. If precise boat positioning is important to you — and it should be — you want real time updates.

The best way to get around these slow refresh rates is by going into the “Waypoints, Routes, and Trails menu.

1) Press “Page”

2) Press the right arrow on the cursor pad to scroll over to “Waypoints, Routes and Trails”

3) Use the arrows to select “trails” and hit the “menu” button.

4) Use the cursor pad to highlight settings, then press the enter button

5) Change the “logging type” to “Time”

6) Finally, set the time to “1 sec”. Press close and exit out.
Know this post is from awhile back..However Just got Gen 2's and both of them were set on 5 sec refesh rate changed to 1 sec.. will try them shortly..wonder if I will notice a change.

Posted By: Squeaky

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/24/12 02:53 AM

I just read through this entire thread.... and sure picked up a lot of good information!! I just got a new boat and the side imaging and down imaging are out of this world!! I still need to do some tweaking on it, but is most definitely useful.
I have some issues with the 2D sonar on both the HDS5 on the bow and on the HDS8 on the console.... I suppose it will be some trial and error getting all the settings right, to get it how I like.... I only spent 2 days on the water with it so far, and have never had anything like these units. My learning curve will be steep... but worth the climb.
I appreciate all the good stuff I picked up reading tonight....Thanks

Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/12 04:53 PM

Will the HDS 10 Gen 1 work with the LSS 2 Structure scan ? Thanks.

Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/12 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: mapdit
Will the HDS 10 Gen 1 work with the LSS 2 Structure scan ? Thanks.


Yes, the HDS GEN1 units will work with the LSS-2 Structure Scan. You may not get all the performance features the the Structure Scan HD has to offer though. (According to Navico)

Brian
Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/12 12:34 AM

I want to buy a structure scan bracket and i have the cmc hydraulic jackplate. So which one should i order from your website ? (bbgmarine) I have the LSS2 . Thanks.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/12 01:28 AM

You will need the TS-LSS2-L bracket
TS-LSS2-L link

The CMC jack plate has both a flat side model and one with ridges. Do you know which you have? The plate with ridges down the side will need a spacer in addition to the L-Bracket.

Give me a call so we can discuss what you need.

Brian
Posted By: mapdit

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/12 03:50 PM

Hi Brian. Can i have your cell number so that i can text you the photo of the jackplate? Thanks. Tran
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/12 10:57 PM

PM sent
Posted By: Smallie_Hawgin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/12 03:22 PM

Ok folks,
Working with a mapping project and in need of some techy help. In the past have been able to use a track log to get points with depths from the usr file or gpx to then bring in to a GIS coverage to do some interpolation and develop accurate depth maps. HDS 5 was used logging every second on a 200 acre impoundment most transects ran at less than 5 mph. I did not use the record feature that captures screen etc, just the track log recording. I exported the track files in Verson 2, 3, 4 and GPX formats, but none show actual depth values. Is there something I am doing incorrectly? I am using dnrgps (a program offered through MNDNR) to do the conversion to shapefile.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Posted By: Bobcat1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/12 11:16 PM

Figured it with help from Ernest Paty.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/09/12 10:26 PM

I purchased a Navionics HotMaps Premium 2009 card yesterday, i plugged it in to my HDS 5 it shows the map but no detail at all. Any one else have this problem or know how to fix?

Thanx,
JJ
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 02:34 PM

djdoubl, go into your settings and make sure your map is set to navionics and not lowrance. I belive you need to go to settings, scroll down the chart, then right arrow over will give you chart settings. You should see in the top line a drop down box with Lowrance & Navionics as your 2 options. Make sure Navionics is selected.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 02:41 PM

Question for you guys. Saturday I was on the lake and my sturcture scan was reading out 2.9' or 3' everywhere I went but was picking up the bottom around 18'. The 2d sonar was picking up the bottom right as well at 18'. Iv had this problem once or twice in the past and just turned the unit off and back on it it was fine but saturday it didnt fix this. Anyone know whats going on and what I need to do?

Thanks
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 06:38 PM

when navionics is selected i get nothing but a map with no details, with lowrance i get insight map with some navionics features
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 06:56 PM

Wow im not sure what to tell ya. I saw your post in the catfish section and I would think you should be getting more detail than that. I have the same card, either 08 or 09, cant remember and mine shows a lot more detail. I noticed your screen shot has fishing hot spots on it. Are you sure this isnt the Navionics Fishing Hot Spots chip? Im not familiar with those chips or what they show so I could be way off. Just a guess because I see the hotspots on your screenshot.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 09:25 PM

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt..._09#Post7971223

I expected a lot more from navionics, i thought there would be a lot more detail i know not on every lake but I have looked at a lot of different lakes and they are all the same except grand lake . there is no 1ft contour lines just numbers. The only way I could get those screen shots I took was to put in simulation mode load navionics and then load lowrance maps. To me it's like lowrance insight maps with "some" navionics data overlay. The best detail I found was on grand lake in OK, that was the data I expected from navionics.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 09:27 PM

What is the navionics fishin hot spots chip? On the card it says " Navionics Premium '09 South - S5"
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 09:45 PM

If that's what it says on the chip then it should be showing you more detail than what you are getting. Seems to me that for whatever reason, your unit isn't reading your card correctly. Might be user error or a problem with you unit. From looking at the 2 zoomed in screenshots it looks to me like insight mapping.
Posted By: HTC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/10/12 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: UTMallard
I've asked this question several times (not on this thread) and still cant find the answer. I have an HDS 7 and would like to view sonar+downscan+chart, all on the same screen and cant get this view to come up. It is not an option from the "pages" screen and am wondering if there is another way to view this on my screen? Any input would be appreciated!


You have to have at least 4.0 update to have three way split screens on hte HDS 7.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/12 01:58 AM

Big10 insight mapping shows trees and fishing spots?
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/12 12:07 PM

Im not sure if it shows fishing hotspots but i think it does show submerged timber.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/12 01:54 PM

Oh ok, cause I had never seen the fishing spots or the trees until I was messing with the card
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/12 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: big10
Question for you guys. Saturday I was on the lake and my sturcture scan was reading out 2.9' or 3' everywhere I went but was picking up the bottom around 18'. The 2d sonar was picking up the bottom right as well at 18'. Iv had this problem once or twice in the past and just turned the unit off and back on it it was fine but saturday it didnt fix this. Anyone know whats going on and what I need to do?

Thanks

Anyone?
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/12 05:29 PM

Those pics are the Insight Mapping, I took the card out and looked at the settings i had changed and thats why i had not seen the fishing spots or the trees in red before. So i am back to the same issue on navionics not showing any detail on the any lake just blue water and tan land.
Posted By: cleve

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/20/12 06:45 PM

Can the Card be bought at any store,On my HDS-* says has two of them.
Posted By: Allen Ehlers

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/21/12 02:23 AM

I will be installing a LSS-2 with a HDS-5 Gen 1 this weekend.( Ya i know. Small screen will be an issue ) I have a question about the yellow wire on the LSS-2. Did i read that you can hook up the yellow accessory wire on the HDS-5 with the Yellow wire on The LSS-2? Will that power up the LSS-2 when the HDS-5 is on and turn it off when the HDS-5 is off? I also have a accessory switch on the dash that Is not used for anything else. Would it be better to tap into unused Accessory switch or tie into the HDS-5? Sorry for the long post. Thanks
Posted By: dobbin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/21/12 02:41 AM

might want to check with someone in the know as I was told the lss2 and gen1 would not interchange.
Posted By: Just_Old_Fisherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/21/12 11:33 AM

Connect yellow wire to HDS5 yellow wire and it will signal the LSS to turn off when you turn off the HDS5. Alternative is to connect yellow to a switch to power, then throwing the switch signals LSS to turn off/on.

I went yellow wire to yellow wire and works good for me. LSS still gets power signal even when HDS in standby mode.
Posted By: Allen Ehlers

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/21/12 01:54 PM

Thanks J.O.F. I think that's what I will do. I run the HDS-5 off one of my trolling motor batteries.
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/22/12 02:43 AM

Originally Posted By: big10
Originally Posted By: big10
Question for you guys. Saturday I was on the lake and my sturcture scan was reading out 2.9' or 3' everywhere I went but was picking up the bottom around 18'. The 2d sonar was picking up the bottom right as well at 18'. Iv had this problem once or twice in the past and just turned the unit off and back on it it was fine but saturday it didnt fix this. Anyone know whats going on and what I need to do?

Thanks

Anyone?


Is this with the downscan?? Next time out check to see if it's (downscan) in auto mode if so, take it out of auto and see if that corrects it.
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/24/12 02:38 AM

I have a question. I have the new HDS 8 gen 2 with the insight mapping. well i put my fishing hot spots card in the slot and it works but Im not sure why some of the insight mapping doesnt work now. Before I put any cards in there would be hot spot icons all over the lake with info, now since i put in the hot spots card it doesnt show up. The hot spots card I got in 2006 to 2008. Also was wondering if this is a good card to have or if there is better ones out there.
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/24/12 05:51 PM

Cause the you are overriding the Insight map with your FHS card....just like if you were to put the navionics card in, it will read that instead of insight....insight will not overlay with mapping cards...it's either one or the other....probably not seeing those hot spot icons cause your card is alot older than the insight which has been updated.
Posted By: cleve

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/12 10:16 PM

What is Insight? what does it do my HDS-8 has it but not sure where or how to use it.
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/27/12 01:29 AM

Just has built in lake maps, they arent as detailed tho. But a neat thing about it is it has hot spots and gives info on a particular area. Thats what I know about insight.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/27/12 12:40 PM

on a hds 7 with lss1 can you adjust the sensitivity on the sidescan?
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/27/12 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka stinkbait tom
on a hds 7 with lss1 can you adjust the sensitivity on the sidescan?

No, the only settings are contrast, range, color pallet, surface clarity, and noise rejection. Sensitivity is only for 2d sonar.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/28/12 03:13 AM

When mounting a trolling motor transducer, is it ok to power a unit on with the trolling motor out of the water? I have heard you shouldnt power the unit with the transducer not in water. dont know how true that is so looking for some help
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/28/12 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: djdoubl3j
When mounting a trolling motor transducer, is it ok to power a unit on with the trolling motor out of the water? I have heard you shouldnt power the unit with the transducer not in water. dont know how true that is so looking for some help


Yes it is ok. I turn mine on in the parking lot and turn it off at the ramp when I am loading the boat. A lot of the time I'll have it on in the garage watching a sonar log for more than an hour at a time.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/28/12 12:46 PM

Ok thanx
Posted By: Allen Ehlers

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/28/12 07:06 PM

Taking my Structure Scan II out for the first time Sunday. I am super excited bannana2 banana. Are there any tips you can give me that have not been covered in this post? Thanks
Posted By: banjo77

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/29/12 12:48 AM

Enjoy, these units are awesome. My only advice, play with the settings till you find what is right for you. Have fun
Posted By: cleve

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/12 03:44 PM

I see where I can buy a HDS-5x gen2 and i'm wondering can the 5x be networked to my HDS-8 gen 2, Just wanting one up front I do have the bundle the LSS box.
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/12 06:02 PM

from what i know you can link all hds units
Posted By: cleve

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/12 06:08 PM

Ok thanks for your reply, I am injoying having a nice fishfinder as it was a huge step for me to spend that much and now see the HDS-5x that would work with my gen 2 HDS-8. Really also matchin brands and getting the ole HB off the bow. again thanks..
Posted By: Allen Ehlers

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/01/12 12:12 AM

Hey All. I have a couple questions. What causes the white splotches in the water column? The area between the center line and where the beam first hits bottom?
What are the shallow water limits of structure scan? How shallow is too shallow for structure scan? Thanks!!
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/01/12 04:51 PM

No problem @Cleve


Fish, bait, prop wash it could be a number of things. I have used side scan in 6 ft, down scan is just like 2d sonar so you should be able to use it as long as there is water. @allen ehlers
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/12 01:57 AM

I have 2 HDS 5 gen 1s and LSS gen 1, I can not get power to. I have tried connecting the yellow wire to both units at the same time, then each unit seperately, and directly to the battery. I hooked up the new unit and it picked up that structure scan was connected but i dont know if it has to be on for the hds unit to detect it. Last time on the water it was on then cut off and the unit said "No Source" I thought it was the battery. i charged the battery to full and I hooked up my unit in the front of the boat and i cant get the LSS to come on at all no lights or anything. Both units say " No Source" and if i go down in the settings to select source and i have no option to select anything its just highlighted dark and doesnt let you select anything. I have a camping trip on the 19th so im trying to get everything right before i go.

Thanx,
JJ
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/12 02:56 AM

DJ, if you have the yellow wire from the LSS connected to the HDS unit, then the HDS unit must be on for the LSS to power up. The other thing is that if its only connected to one (1) HDS unit and you turn that particular unit off, it will shut the LSS down and you will not have a LSS reading on the other unit. So i would say connect both yellow wires from the HDS 5's to the yellow wire at the LSS. That way you can turn one unit off and still have the LSS on.
Posted By: ND5T

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/12 08:22 PM

1st time scanning old 190 bridge on Lake livingston




Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/12 08:32 PM

Nice shots ND5T!! How deep is this? That thing looks LOADED with crappie but if im reading that 47' deep right that looks a tad too deep for crappie to be hanging out. Maybe shad or white bass?
Posted By: ND5T

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/12 08:45 PM

I think they are whites from about 20-30' the bottom is 50'. The area is known for whites so this is what I believe them to be, but as I said this is my first time with the LS1 so I could be wrong and it is just bait fish (shad)
I caught the one in the picture a couple of days before I did the scan so Catfish is what I had on my mind
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/12 05:28 AM

I was on the water yesterday drifting, my hds 5 gen 1 started reading 2ft of water structure scan was reading 26 I know the spot we were in is 26 ft of water. I adjusted color line and sensitivity and still reads 2 ft of water can't get it to read anything else. Any one have this same problem? Thanx, JJ
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/12 04:38 PM

Dj here might be your answer.
Originally Posted By: fishin couillon
Originally Posted By: big10
Originally Posted By: big10
Question for you guys. Saturday I was on the lake and my sturcture scan was reading out 2.9' or 3' everywhere I went but was picking up the bottom around 18'. The 2d sonar was picking up the bottom right as well at 18'. Iv had this problem once or twice in the past and just turned the unit off and back on it it was fine but saturday it didnt fix this. Anyone know whats going on and what I need to do?

Thanks

Anyone?


Is this with the downscan?? Next time out check to see if it's (downscan) in auto mode if so, take it out of auto and see if that corrects it.
Posted By: FAT & OLD

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/30/12 02:30 PM

I have a HSD 7 my question is when I driving down the lake and the trail is marking the boats path if I turn into a cove the trail will cut the corner across the point and NOT follow where the boat actually traveled - This is a problem if I'm trying to stay in a creek channel and return back out on the same trail - I am confused on how to correct this
Posted By: ND5T

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/30/12 04:08 PM

Check the trail settings on how often it is updating
Under Advanced you can set distance for updates under logging type
you can set it to update every ?? feet for when you need more precision on the trails
From My Downloaded book

Trails
Controls the way trails are logged (updated). Trails mark your movement as you
travel, placing points along your path using one
of three logging types: Time, Distance or Auto.
You can save up to 10 trails with up to 9,999
points per trail. If a trail exceeds 9,999 points,
each new point will overwrite a point at the
beginning of the trail.
Logging Type
Controls the method used for updating a trail. Trails can be updated using Time,
Distance or the default automatic setting.
Logging Types
Time A point is placed along the trail after a selected amount of time
Distance A point is placed along the trail after you travel a selected
distance
Auto A point is placed along the trail every time you change direction
To select a Logging Type:
1. Highlight Logging Type on the Trails menu and press enter.
2. Use the keypad to select Auto, Distance or Time and press enter.
Distance Period
Controls how far you will travel before a point is placed along the trail.
To set Distance period:
1. Highlight Distance Period and press
enter. The distance period
keypad will appear.
2. Input the desired distance and select
OK. Press enter.
Posted By: Canoe Man

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/01/12 07:38 PM

I have a Eagle 245d8. It looks identical to a Lowrance X-Pro that sells for 99.95. It shows depth well, but it does not seem to show structure or fish very well. Is there a fishfinder that I can buy for maybe $300 that would give me better detail, etc. After looking at all of these graphs, I realize I am missing a lot. I fish from a canoe.
Thanks
Posted By: Jpowell7575

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/10/12 04:43 PM

Does anyone else think that the actual 2d sonar on these HDS units is not up to par? I've never had suck bad quality come from a Lowrance unit. Could be my settings, could be my transducer I guess. I've got the 83/200 skimmer transducer. I very rarely get any arches and it doesn't work near as good as my HB 798 does. I've got the gen 1 10 with insight.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/11/12 10:35 PM

I think the 2d sonar on my lowrance HDS 10 is great. What are your settings like?
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/11/12 11:27 PM

might also check and see if you have entered the number/type of transducer in your settings. if its on generic or unknown it makes a big difference on the sonar readings
Posted By: Jpowell7575

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/11/12 11:36 PM

I have the transducer installation correct, but just never can get my settings right I don't guess. What do you reccomend?
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/12 11:29 AM

Don't know where your located but many of the members in here would help you set it up on the lake.
Posted By: Jpowell7575

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/12 04:15 PM

I live in Tyler and fish palestine most of the time, but am willing to travel
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/20/12 07:07 AM

Can you use a HDS 8 gen 2 with LSS1?
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/12 02:17 AM

Anybody know when the new touch 12inch units will be in stores ?
Posted By: djdoubl3j

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/12 02:20 AM

saw some on ebay earlyer dont know when they ship tho
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/12 04:47 AM

Originally Posted By: djdoubl3j
Can you use a HDS 8 gen 2 with LSS1?
Yes, you can.
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/12 04:48 AM

Originally Posted By: big fish2
Anybody know when the new touch 12inch units will be in stores ?
I think they are saying sometime in December....
Posted By: blazeplatt

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 02:47 PM

Does the LSS-2 turn off when you power down your graph or do you have to put it on a separate switch like the LSS-1?
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: blazeplatt
Does the LSS-2 turn off when you power down your graph or do you have to put it on a separate switch like the LSS-1?


AS long as you are tying the yellow (Wake up) wires from the LSS-2 module together with the yellow wire from the HDS unit, it will act as the on/off switch to your LSS2 module.

Brian
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 04:56 PM


Today, Lowrance is releasing their new Elite-7 HDI units . The units now have dual imaging, which means you get sonar and downscan, where as the Elite-5 and 4 you would have to choose either downscan only or sonar only. Here is the video on Lowrance's website.

The MSRP for the Elite-7 HDI is $699, for Elite-7 Broadband (chart and sonar only, no downscan) is $599, and for the Elite-7x HDI (no chart, sonar and downscan only) is $549.

http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Products/Elite/

Available soon from shut-up-and-fish. Your One Stop Shop
Posted By: CatfishClyde

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 08:18 PM

I've been looking at the Elite 5 DSI. It and the Elite 7 broadband are the same price...$599.
Which one would you recommend? I like the idea of DSI, but also like the idea of the bigger 7" screen.
I'm not sure what would be more of a benefit for my catfishing...DSI or the bigger screen of the 7...

In the past i got along just fine with my 332c but i need a new graph as i got a new pontoon!
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 08:25 PM

For the $100 more, I would recommend going with the Elite 7 HDI and have a 2 inch bigger screen plus broadabnd sonar plus Down Scan.

Brian
Posted By: CatfishClyde

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/12 08:43 PM

I also see the Elite 5 DSI is on sale just about everywhere for $399 now.
Posted By: fishin couillon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/12 03:23 AM

I'm with Brian on that one....i'd get the Elite 7 unit....looks to be nice unit....
Posted By: Sprint Runner

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/04/12 04:22 AM

How can i get my hds5 to follow my boat when in chart mode? Just got unit today and when i drive boat it goes off screen and the chart doesnt follow it.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/04/12 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Sprint Runner
How can i get my hds5 to follow my boat when in chart mode? Just got unit today and when i drive boat it goes off screen and the chart doesnt follow it.
Is there a + sign on the screen where the cursor should be ?

Try hitting the exit button and see if that helps.

Brian
Posted By: Sprint Runner

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/04/12 05:38 PM

Ill look after work today but i think there was a plus sign on the screen. If there isnt a plus, any other ideas ?
Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/12 05:29 AM

While fishing, our HDS5 was working one minute and then shut itself off and will not power on. We tried it with fresh batteries and it still will not power on. Took it to All Star in Lewisville and they said the only solution was to send it to Lowrance. Called Lowrance and they want $450. to fix it. Do I have any other options? It was purchased in mid 2009.
Posted By: Johnpush

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/12 09:34 AM

Nice share,thank you guys.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/12 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: GoFishNow
While fishing, our HDS5 was working one minute and then shut itself off and will not power on. We tried it with fresh batteries and it still will not power on. Took it to All Star in Lewisville and they said the only solution was to send it to Lowrance. Called Lowrance and they want $450. to fix it. Do I have any other options? It was purchased in mid 2009.


Maybe dumb question. Did you check the fuse?
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/12 04:53 AM

It's my casual, admittedly uninformed impression, based on screen shots I've seen here and there, that these Elite DSI units aren't going to give you anything like the clarity and detail you get with HDS/LSS-1 StructureScan. But perhaps you were aready aware of that.
Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/12 11:45 PM

It was tested on several different batteries without fuses.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/12 09:08 PM

Can anyone tell me why in this shot my struc ft is showing 3.0 when im in 32 FOW?
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/12 09:19 PM

This happens almost every time im out on the water. Heres another shot where it is showing the same thing.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/12 10:13 PM

Mine does the same thing but usually when I am drifting.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/12 10:30 PM

Most of the time mine does it when I am drifting but also some when I'm not drifting.
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 12:18 PM

Look at the line across the screen at about the 3 ft. mark. The display is telling you the depth at a point marked by your cursor, probably inadvertently. You can remove it by pressing the Exit button. You definitely need to increase your sensitivity on 2d. You might try just leaving it on Auto until you get a feel for it.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 03:42 PM

Hmmm odd, maybe Duff is right but my cursor always has the "+" mark. All I can def say is my graph has never done that.
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 05:39 PM

Oh, I'm just guessing. I'm thinking the "+" scrolled off the screen, leaving the line behind it.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: duff1
Oh, I'm just guessing. I'm thinking the "+" scrolled off the screen, leaving the line behind it.


I think you might very well be right on track. I'd try it on my graph if it wasn't in lockdown for winter.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: duff1
Oh, I'm just guessing. I'm thinking the "+" scrolled off the screen, leaving the line behind it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I belive if this was the case on the second screenshot my chart would be centered over the cursor and not where the boat is.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 11:26 PM

It has happened a bunch of times and it always reads out between 2.9 & 3.1' I think if it was from the cursor the depth it reads out would vary more.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/13 11:29 PM

It has happened a bunch of times and it always reads out between 2.9 & 3.1' I think if it was from the cursor the depth it reads out would vary more.
Posted By: duff1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/13 12:36 AM

Perhaps, but I'm not sure your boat icon on the chart is going to hug the position at which the '+' was initially placed, which may remain locked in memory until cleared. But I'm hardly a sonar guru.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/13 02:41 AM

10, you might try a "soft rest" on the graph (no I dont remember how to do it). Maybe it's just a glitch but Duff is right, it's odd that your si/di is showing 3ft and there is a solid blue line at 3ft. Find Jason Gilstrap on here and PM him. He works for Lowrance (or something to that extent)
Posted By: Jason Gilstrap

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/13 12:57 AM

Is this a Lss-1 or Lss-2 box and transducer.. Also what unit are we running?? all units updated with current software??

Does it, do it all the time?
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/13 01:05 AM

mine does this occasionally especially when drifting. gen 2 8hd with lss 1 and it is updated.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/13 02:19 AM

Mine is also occasionally but mostly when drifting. I can't remember the last day I was on the lake when it didn't do it. I'm using an HDS 10 gen 1 and lss1. I belive it is on 4.0 but not sure on that.
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/13 07:39 AM

I was wondering if any other retailer could beat the price on this unit at Cabela’s. A base model HDS-10 Gen 2 with 83/200 transducer for $1,599.00. It’s on sale there. Thanks



Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/13 09:28 PM


That is a great price. Jump on it. I am out of stock on the HDS Gen2 Base.
Posted By: Donegonefishin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/05/13 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Gonzz
I was wondering if any other retailer could beat the price on this unit at Cabela’s. A base model HDS-10 Gen 2 with 83/200 transducer for $1,599.00. It’s on sale there. Thanks





Got mine in yesterday. No one is even close to that price and they have the HDS 8 Gen 2 for $1,299.
Posted By: DROPSHOT_528

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/06/13 01:43 PM

at that price id better get off the computer and head there
thats a deal
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/07/13 04:01 AM

Does anyone have the dimensions on the LSS-2 HD transducer? Thanks
Posted By: GunSho

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/14/13 10:23 PM

The lss 2 ducer is about 6-7" long and 2-3" wide. The bracket is shorter by a few inches.
Posted By: GunSho

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/14/13 10:40 PM

Nevermind, its 10.1"
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/14/13 11:34 PM

Thanks. Trying to make my own transducer jackplate mount.
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/13 01:20 AM

I was a proud owner of a humminbird 997 and sold it 2 weeks ago. Purchaced a HDS-10 (Console) and a HDS-7 (Bow). Today was the first day out and all I can say is it's Amazing .. What a difference. I have a few questions.

1. How do I add depth and temp and time on chart screen? All I see is speed.

2. When using TM HDS-7 on bow is the 2D view coming from TM transducer or from the in hull transducer from console unit?

3. How do I select different screens when in a 3 page view. I have structure scan, 2D and map on scrren. Want to toggle to each and adjust.

4. How do I adust screens when I have 2 views showing.

5. Can't select what type of transducer on bow. locked on generic transducer.

Thanks for any info on these..
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/13 03:09 AM

1. How do I add depth and temp and time on chart screen? All I see is speed. You will have to go in to the Edit Overlay screen and click ADD those put those readings on the screen.

2. When using TM HDS-7 on bow is the 2D view coming from TM transducer or from the in hull transducer from console unit?Go in to your Data Sources screen and expand the Sonar + sign to see the devices listed. Your check marked setting should be HDS7 GEN2 "This Device" That will insure you're reading sonar from the transducer attached to that unit.

3. How do I select different screens when in a 3 page view. I have structure scan, 2D and map on scrren. Want to toggle to each and adjust. Hold down the pages button to scroll from screen to screen. The active window will be outlined in yellow.

4. How do I adust screens when I have 2 views showing. See above. OR If you're wanting to resize the screens, you will adjust screen splits. I don't have a unit in front of me and can't recall the exact buttons but it's in your manual.

5. Can't select what type of transducer on bow. locked on generic transducer. Find the installation menu and set it to PDT-WBL 83/200khz for puck w/temp, HST-WSBL 83/200 for Skimer type transducer w/temp. Generic 83/200 is for universal sonar. Make sure you save the setting when exiting that screen.

Brian
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/13 03:11 AM

Thanks Brian...
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/21/13 03:26 AM

A few pics from today..





Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/21/13 03:10 PM

Great screenshots! Those are some really good shots for first time using Lowrance. Welcome to the lowrance world. I think you will like it!!
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/26/13 04:46 AM

Anybody know what video camera is being used with the HDS touch ?
Posted By: Tawakoni Todd

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/29/13 07:47 PM

Can someone help out an idiot? I have had my boat put up for over two years, now I'm gonna fish and then work sometimes, lol. I have a color Lowrance from 2007 but want to move up to the NEW 7" Elite with GPS, sonar and down scan. Really don't have the money for a BIG un with Sidescan, but I'm not good reading the one I have. Time to spend TIME ON THE WATER LEARNING and reading the threads. I only do Catfish, sandies and Hybrids on Hubbard and Tawakoni. Any feedback on this unit, is it worth it to pick up down scan? Should I wait and save and get sidescan? All help appreciated.
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/29/13 08:35 PM

Bigfish 2..

GoPro 3

I think this is what your asking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izcGxD-gDe0
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/13 03:00 AM

THANK YOU !!!! jfdawson
Posted By: dallasfisherman1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/13 03:05 AM

What is the difference in the lss1 and lss2 will the lss1 work with gen 2 units
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/13 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: dallasfisherman1
What is the difference in the lss1 and lss2 will the lss1 work with gen 2 units
The main difference is physical size. The LSS2 is 10 inches long but beyond that, the LSS2 gives much greater side scan range capability and more detail of images.

You can plug an LSS1 transducer in to an LSS2/HD module or Touch screen but in order to get the full HD effect (as Lowrance calls it) you would need the adapter (part # 000-11040-001)

Brian
Posted By: young cat

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/13 10:21 PM

How do i download updates for my hds 5 thanks
Posted By: RudyDep

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/01/13 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By: young cat
How do i download updates for my hds 5 thanks

Go to the lowrance web site and follow the directions. Its SUPER easy.
http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Software-Updates/HDS-Gen1-Software-Update/
Posted By: el Rojo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/13 12:23 AM

Need some help trouble shooting "no source" on the structure scan on a HDS 10 Gen1.

We have a HDS 10 on the console and an HDS 8 on the bow. One 2D transducer connected to the 10 on the console but the 2d shows on the front HDS8. The 2 units are connected via the LSS1 so I assume we have power to the LSS. Where do I look to find out why the side scan isn't working?

Thanks Red.

Problem solved. Found a fuse blown. Had to cut tie wraps and stand on my head to find it.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/13 12:04 PM

I'd like to hear some reports on the new HDS 12 Touch. Not something from the Lowrance website or even prostaff people but, someone that actually bought one and installed it themselves and used it awhile.
I was a long time Lowrance guy until recently when I changed from an HDS 8 with LSS-1 to Humminbird and considering swithing back to the new Touch. If it matters, I only fish crappie from an 18' Lund boat.
Sure would appreciate some feedback and thanks in advance!
Posted By: Diel11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/13 01:27 PM

I have a 12 and am very happy with it. Loses bottom once in a while and you have to reboot but Lowrance says there's an update coming next month to take care of it.

I have it ethernet connected to my HDS7 Gen 2, using a LSS2 transducer. I just moved the LSS2 to a better location and can get side and down scan images up to 14mph. I usually scan at around 3mph though. It's in my opinion the fastest reacting fish finder I've ever used. You hit the screen to make your choices and bam, it's doing it. Very easy to use and the screen resolution is insane good.

You can see fingerprints on the screen when you turn the unit off but while it's running you can't. Installation was a joke easy. I run mine at the 800 frequency because it will bump heads with the Humminbirds and really like. Have tested it on 455 and it's even better.

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/13 03:49 PM

Thanks Diel, that is an awesome configuration you have there! Do you plan to keep all three units mounted as shown? If so, why?
Comparing the HDS12 and the HB 1198 side by side should answer any questions about which has better resolution. Are the transducers side by side too? Any chance you could take pics showing the side by side comparison of something underwater so we can really see the differences?
Posted By: Diel11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/13 04:57 PM

I know I am keeping the HDS12 for sure, and I use the HDS7 for navigation mostly. Kept the 1198 and 998 on the bow for the 360 and Ipilot Link but the 360 is dead right now and the I pilot link can't handle a spot lock. That being said, the other features on the Link work well and the navigating between waypoints with it is awesome.

If everything works out with Humminbird I might keep the set up. Can tell you it's super easy to get lots of information at a glance with it. I set the HDS12 on downscan, HDS7 on Navionics, 1198 on 360 or side imaging.

Transducer for the 1198 is on the starboard side of the transom, skimmer for the Lowrance is on the port side, LSS2 is in the pocket by the drain plug. 998 SI transducer is on the trolling motor. Might be going out on the lake Tuesday so I'll take some pics.
Posted By: cajunslo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/13 10:06 PM

Looking to purchase a new LSS-1 transducer, cut my cable.
Bass pro was out of stock, any TFF sponsors or members have one to sell.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/13 03:32 AM

Diel, that's one heck of a set up you have there. How do you keep the battery from going dead half way through the day?

Cajun, good luck on the search. The lss1's are hard to find, check eBay alot.

Okie, I have a 12" Touch on order and it should be here in a few days. I'm going to try and compare it to the lss1 before I tear it all apart and rebuild it. I'm interested how much better the 2 actually is.
Posted By: Diel11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/13 04:09 AM

For sure man, hahahaha. I have two cranking batteries with a main switch so if anything goes weird I just switch over.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/13 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: cajunslo
Looking to purchase a new LSS-1 transducer, cut my cable.
Bass pro was out of stock, any TFF sponsors or members have one to sell.


Check with Shutup and Fish, David's a real nice guy and supports the forum and is in Tx.

http://www.shut-up-and-fish.com
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/13 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Diel, that's one heck of a set up you have there. How do you keep the battery from going dead half way through the day?

Cajun, good luck on the search. The lss1's are hard to find, check eBay alot.

Okie, I have a 12" Touch on order and it should be here in a few days. I'm going to try and compare it to the lss1 before I tear it all apart and rebuild it. I'm interested how much better the 2 actually is.


Please keep us informed on how the LSS1 works for you????
And can you share what you paid for the 12? I got a quote
of $2,980 plus $249 for the transducer.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/13 03:16 PM

Okie, I'll send it by pm. Don't want anybody getting offended.

I already have the lss1 and have liked it, hopefully the 2 has a bit better detail and width. Not sure about the touch yet, might take me some getting used to. I played with one at bass pro and I'm def better on my gen 1 & 2, just take some time to learn I suppose.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/19/13 01:41 PM

Appreicate the PM Grout. I have a Gen 1 HDS 8 on my older boat that I'm getting ready to sell. Changed to HB on my newer boat and regret it.
I played with the Touch at BPS also and didn't find it difficult to operate at all, in fact, easier to use the the older HDS's. Didn't spend enough time on it to tell if any features were elimuinated withe the Touch but I doubt it did. I really like the screen size with loss of all the push buttons....
Posted By: setexfisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/13 02:46 AM

i have a lowrance hds 7 gen2 touch. does anyone know how to enter a waypoint using the key pad?
Posted By: Kenny11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/13 06:06 AM

I Have Gen 1 HDS 10 cant quite figure it all out, would any one that fishes ray hubbard be willing to help me out and help me with the set up and use of it???
Posted By: bucky94

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/13 05:59 PM

I have an HDS7 and HDS8 linked with an ethernet cable. The HDS7 (on the front) shows water temp even when the HDS8 is the source. HDS8 never shows water temp. Any idea why that is? Extremely frustrating. Thanks.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/27/13 11:49 AM

I'm very familiar with ethernet but, clueless when talking about NEMA protocol. Why use NEMA vs ethernet? Advanages/disadvantages?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/13 02:18 AM

I don't know nmea either but I believe more ties into it, external GPS, engine data, radar and that kind of stuff. Ethernet just shares SI/DI, waypoints. I'm not sure which one runs the music program (sonic whatever it's called).
Posted By: 124Donnie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/13 02:25 AM

I have a hds 7 linked with a hds 8 both r gen 2 my question is how do I get just down scan and sonar I tryed and when I use the sonar and structure it always goes to side scan and sonar
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/13 03:20 AM




Pick this page first. Unless you only want sonar and 1 structure screen, if so choose that option. This gives both SI, DI & sonar.

While on that page hold the "pages" button down until the orange box goes around the side imaging screen. Then let the button out and press menu, there will be an option for structure scan viewing. Scroll to it and press enter, it will then show: right, left, right & left or down only. Select the one you want.

See the orange box around the DI image, that's what I'm talking about you moving to the option you want to change.
Posted By: 124Donnie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/13 03:34 AM

Thank you for the info
Posted By: Chris Borden

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/13 03:25 PM

I have a question. Can someone pm me the step by step process of getting the 12 to read the internal lss2 instead of the lss1 that is networking everything together.
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/13 03:11 AM

I have a question, How do I get my hds8 gen 2 gps speed at max, I remember seeing something about that the default settings is not at max speed.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/13 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: cborden
I have a question. Can someone pm me the step by step process of getting the 12 to read the internal lss2 instead of the lss1 that is networking everything together.


Remove the LSS1 module all together and network through the 12....
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/13 03:41 AM

anyone?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/13 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Kens3313
anyone?


I don't remember they exact menu but the GPS comes set at 1 update every 5 seconds. You can change it to update 1 time per second. Surely you can find the menu by yourself or worse case scenario, the dreaded Owners Manual scared
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/13 04:00 AM

I hate looking in owners manual, but looks like ill have to, Now the hard part is finding owners manual lol
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/13 05:23 AM


http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Support/Documents/
Posted By: DownholeFishing

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/13 12:54 AM

I have an Elite 7 up front. After hitting my trolling motor switch a few times, my Elite just goes off suddenly. Any suggestions and how do you have yours wired in? Thanks.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/13 04:50 AM


Are you wired directly to your battery or are you wired into the bow components as you trolling motor is wired too?
Posted By: DownholeFishing

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/13 06:27 AM

Yes it's wired to the + & - on my battery 1 cables going from the trolling motor plug to the batteries. I'm thinking I'm going to either wire it to my switches at the wheel or directly to the starting battery. I'm guessing its pulling more amps than my old HB unit. Thanks for the help.
Posted By: B_Thomas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/09/13 02:58 AM

I have an HDS 7, how do you input GPS Coords. into the unit?
Posted By: Bassndomer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/13 08:02 PM

Hey guys, I have a generation one HDS 5, which is my main unit at my console and am considering buying the Elite 5X DSI....to also put near my console...is this something worthwhile? I would appreciate yours thoughts. TIA.
Posted By: JWRid

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/13 01:03 AM

Just bought and installed an Elite 7 HDi combo. Also purchased a Navionics South premium card. Put the card in the slot and the only mapping that shows up is the US, Mexico, and parts of South America. How do I have the lake maps show up? Late coming to the new technology so would appreciate any help.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/13 10:38 AM

JWRid, how about a report on the Elite 7? Very interested in others evaluation before buying one.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/13 10:40 AM

I see that the Elite 7 uses the 2D sonar transducer. Is this the same transducer built into my Fortrex trolling motor? If so, can I use it successfully instead of the one that comes with the unit?
Posted By: Stonebriar

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/13 12:12 PM

yes Bob that transducer will work.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/13 09:39 AM

I used the transducer that came with the Elite 7 HDI Combo and am still not certain that it is the correct transducer for down imaging???? Is there another transducer I need for DI? I also have an HDS 8 and it has two transducers, one small one for 2D sonar and one for side imaging/down imaging that runs via the LSS 1. I know it works but, have to assume the transducer that came with my Elite 7 has crystals for both 2D and DI....is that correct?
Posted By: bunnymoney

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/13 07:01 PM

Here's my story. Any and all opinions will be appreciated.

I have an X125 that served me well for 4 years. After a year or so the screen began to get foggy (condensation) with the light on. It got a little worse over time.

After about 3 years the screen started to lose accurate bottom depth (25-30') over rock bottom and show 2.3 feet digitally and show clutter on the screen. This lasted at first for a minute or so and would go back to normal operation.

The frequency of the events and the duration increased over many months to a point where half the time it was accurate and half the time it showed 2.3 feet.

I trailer my tin boat and store it indoors. My power runs through a 3A fuse block. No difference if motor is running or not.

I have wiped the transducer during an event with no positive results. I have wiggled all connections and also no positive results. I have turned on & off (but NOT a soft reset) still no help.

At this point I assumed the X125 was more trouble than it was worth.

I replaced it with a Mark-5x because it was affordable and I like the 480x480 screen. Basic sonar is adequate for my needs.

I installed the Mark-5x last summer. It worked just fine for my needs. 3 weeks ago it would not start up by pushing the light button. I took it to a local dealer and connected it to his demo cable...nothing. I called Lowrance and they took great care of me. I had a new one back in seven days. It worked perfectly for about 3 hours continuous use and then went to 2.3 feet for about 15 minutes.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

tia for any help.

Lew
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:05 PM

is this on your stern or trolling motor?
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:09 PM

if its on the trolling motor make sure the motor is well submerged and not getting cavitiation and air bubbles under it.
also check the pin connectors where they plug into the unit. they could be corroded, l or bent or loose. look very closely at the female pins . sometimes they will open too much, and cause intermittent contact. you can take a stiff little nail, and close them in tighter. if none of this helps, call lowrance and ask them to walk you thru a Hard reset of your unit. do it while on the phone with them.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:29 PM

If its on the transom check to see if it is picking up the lower unit on your motor. My HDS will pick up the lower unit sometimes when drifting or sitting still and read 3'.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:31 PM

You can test this by trimming your motor up next time it is reading 2.3 feet. If it starts to pick up the bottom again then you have figured out your problem.
Posted By: bunnymoney

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:31 PM

Thanks for the response!

The transducer is on the transom and is under about 6 inches of water at rest and trolling speed.

The Mark-5x head is only 4 hours old.

I will fiddle with the female pins on the connector.

I looked-up the directions for both "soft" and "hard" reset. They are simple enough for this unit.

Going out tomorrow for a few hours. I'll get back with results, if any.
Posted By: bunnymoney

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/13 05:34 PM

Thanks big10, I'll give that a try.
Posted By: bunnymoney

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/13 04:15 AM

The biggest problem with intermittent problems is the fact that they are intermittent.

Was out today for 4 hours with no problems. That's good I guess.

At least I caught a couple walleyes for dinner.
Posted By: Court

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/13 07:16 PM

New HDS-8 hooked up. the down scan image is not as clear as the side scan. Side scan looks like Hi def TV, down scan not so much? In order, what should I check? Any help appreciated.
Posted By: bassmaster Z 20

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/13 11:27 PM

Currently using a flush mount LMS332C in the bow. Does anyone know if the HDS5 will flush mount in the same opening??
Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/27/13 01:48 PM

You'll have to trim, the HDS5 cutout is a little under 1" wider and about .5" taller. Do a search for "<model#> template" (HDS5 template, LMS332C template) and you can get the templates (HDS5 is on Lowrance website as a download, found the LMS332C here...
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/96574/Lowrance-Lms-332c.html?page=48
Double and triple check though, I've found cases (X65) where their templates/dimensions do NOT match the physical units (that may be the only one, but it's enough to make me gunshy). Assuming both are right, you'll need a larger cutout (and the HD5 has gentle curves unlike the LMS which is pretty square)
Posted By: M_Cotton

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/27/13 10:28 PM

I'm just wondering what the difference in 800 and 455 MHz setting is and how to get the best picture in the settings on the gen2 hds 5 with gen 2 LSS and if I have the newest update since the blue #9 palette is available can anyone share their settings via pm or some setup tips
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/29/13 01:09 AM

75% of the time I fish water less than 20'. I use 800 kHz when fishing about 8' to 20'. This will give you a little clearer picture than 455 kHz. When I go less than about 8' I will usually switch over to 455 kHz to get a little wider range in the shallow water. More than 20' I'm not real familiar with. But I usually use 800 kHz as well in deeper water.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/13 11:18 AM

Installed a new Elite 7 on the bow of my boat and went out for a test ride. All was well so headed out on a week long trip to Lake Grenada, MS. Got on the water and the unit seemed ok for a few hours and then the down imaging screen basically went blank. After adjusting contrast was able to get a weak bottom line but, no other display. Even tried to reset to factory settings, rebooting and nothing seems to help.
Anyone have any ideas?
I would find no sensitivity setting anywhere for the DI, contrast only. My old HDS 8 worked like a champ.
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/13 10:12 PM

make sure the transducer cable is connected properly to the head unit. do u get any 2 d returns?
Posted By: Carlfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/13 05:56 AM

May be this is offtopic, but I 'm trying to decide between a Lowrance X4 Pro and a Garmin Echo 200. I want to install the transducer inside the hull in my fiberglass boat, using epoxi.
Do I have to buy a special extra transducer for that or the ones that come with the unit will work?
I know I will loose some power and water temperature measurement.
Any advice?
Thank you.
Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/13 02:17 PM

Someone a month or two ago posted about how to "enter GPS coordinates". I didn't see a response (I'm catching up) so I PM'd them, but also for anyone else...
Use the "GOTO" function in Chart mode. Then put in the GPS coords and enter. That'll move the cursor to that GPS spot. You can enter the waypoint, or plot a route, whatever, at that point.
Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/13 02:20 PM

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Posted By: DD72

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/13 12:55 PM

Does anyone know if you can overlay your mph on the structure page on the gen 2 touch? Wanted to be able to see mph while having only the structure screen on.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/13 05:25 PM

I have done it on my Lowrance HDS10 Gen 1. Id imagine you can do it on the touch as well. I belive you need to go into your "system settings" or "Page Settings" and look for "Edit Data Overlay".
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/20/13 03:08 AM

I don't know on the overlay, I have a 12 touch, a gen 2 10 & a gen 1 7. The gen 1 & 2 are easy to overlay but after 2 hours of trying to overlay the Touch I'm thinking it can't be done (whole different menu Big 10). I haven't had time to read the manual again. I also couldn't figure out how to adjust the panel sizes. I must be too stupid for the Touch and just right for the gen 1 & 2's?
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/22/13 05:58 PM

Sorry to not be any help on the touch. I havnt played with one any and was just assuming they were simular to the gen 1 & 2s. Good luck to ya. I sure would hate to not be able to adjust panel sizes and data overlay.
Posted By: Flyer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/22/13 10:06 PM

Figured I'd contribute to this since I read all 30 pages after taking delivery of my new boat with a new hds7 touch installed and getting a considerable amount of help and info from this thread.

Overlay.. when looking at the graph you want to add the overlay to, bring the menu up on the right side panel. Once the menu is there with the palette and other settings you will notice a blue tab at the top. Pull that down with a swipe of the finger. You will see a button that says overlay data. Touch or tap that and you will see more prompts that should get what you want.

Split screen size .. on the same menu as the overlay data button is another button that says adjust split or something to that nature. Touch or tap that and then pops a bubble at the split. Adjust and click save.

There Was a video somewhere posted that showed these very items! I think it may have been from a bgg marine maybe. If I run across it I'll link it but no promises in the video.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/13 03:19 AM

Thanks Flyer, I knew there had to be some way to do but I'll be danged if I could remember it. The little blue tab, I don't remember touching that one so that had to be what my problem was. My brains just too full of other worthless info I just can't remember what I read in the manual. Now if I could just get a chance to use the dang thing.

Oh by the way welcometo the forum!
Posted By: Flyer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/25/13 03:21 AM

I must admit .. I did go out for a few hours to mess with the graph just to get a feel for it. I did carry the manuals with me too. I also adjusted the lss2 transducer level by feel / sight. I may get a level at some time but I've learned that at idle is my best pic. Above idle and I get a lot of air bubbles coming off the step. Mine is mounted on the jack plate.

They've come a long ways since the one I bought for my dads Jon boat 10 or so years ago. It was a good one at the time, even came with a water wheel speed pickup to show the speed.

Thanks for the welcome. smile
Posted By: Kenny11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/29/13 10:36 PM

Hello everyone I have a Lowrance HDS-10 and u cannot seem to get it dialed in to see what I'm looking at. I will pay for this help, someone to come on my boat at lake ray Hubbard to help me set it up and show me !!! Pm me or text or call 2146169724. Thanks everyone. Kenny
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/30/13 01:02 AM

Hey Snake, there isn't anything to dial in, it's all automatic. As long as your ducer is properly installed (I'm assuming your talking about the structure scan). Or are you talking about the regular sonar?
Posted By: Kenny11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/30/13 04:27 AM

Thanks for the reply grout-scout I'm talking about the 2d sonar.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/30/13 09:26 PM

Did you do the setup part, select transducer, select fishing mode "shallow or freshwater"? Run ping around 19, surface clarity should be "low" and put it in "auto", you might have to take the sensitivity down a bit to get rid of the clutter. But that should get it pretty close to where you want it.
Posted By: Kenny11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/13 02:13 AM

Ok I appreciate it.
Posted By: Pabassmastr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/13 01:38 PM

I agree with grout-scout.
Posted By: AztekAngler

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/13 03:50 AM

Will this do for the HDS 8 gen 2? I just got the unit and used it for the first time today. The structure part looked to faint and far away, the sonar part looked full of clutter. What can I do to get it dialed in better than what I saw today? I'm going out on Cedar Creek so would like to hear from others who have HDS dialed in for that lake.
1-Transducer kHz
2-clarity
3-sensitivity
4-contrast
5-ping
6-mode (shallow,freshwater)
And any other setting that helps with cleaner images.
Thanks
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/13 03:17 PM

I have a question. I have a HDS gen 2 and Im wanting to save all my waypoints to my HDI elite 7. I put in the micro card and when I go to waypoint files it gives me like 4 or 5 diff files data versions 4 3 2 and something else, Which is the best one to use?
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/11/13 05:19 PM













Posted By: Flyer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/13/13 02:31 AM

Is it just me or does the structure scan not work all that well at shallow depths, say around 4 feet or less?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/13 03:05 AM

Doesn't work great at shallow depths is a fair statement, this is one of the areas Humminbird does have an advantage. But honestly does anybody really need SS in water 4' or less?
Posted By: Flyer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/13 04:01 AM

When its so dark and murky you can't see more than a foot down ... it'd be nice.

Just saying ...
Posted By: HolyGrail

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 08:42 PM

I was trolling around when I thought I hit the Catfish mother load!! Turns out, it was a flock of Gar... It was neat to see though.

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 09:11 PM

I recently purchased a new Elite 7 and have used it maybe a dozen times at most. I wonder if one of you gurus can respond to a simple question?
I have an HDS 8 on the console and the Elite on the bow. I am convinced the Elite is NOT showing a true down imagin picture. It appears to me to be a 2D sonar picture enhanced somehow to give the effect of DI. I compare the DI from my HDS 8 and the Elite and there is no comparison. I look at the 2D side by side the DI on the Elite and they are so similar it's shocking.
I'm very serious about this and would greatly appreciate a knowledgable response. If I am correct, I believe Lowrance is giving false marketing information which I do not appreciate.
PM me if you prefer, I just need to know what I have.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 11:32 PM

Okie, I've not used the elite 7 or seen one in person but from the images I have seen I would agree with you. But I'd also say that would have to be the reason why the HDS series cost so much more, better definition. Elites a good entry level (never thought id see the day $700 would be considered entry) graph for the guys that don't want to drop a ton of money.
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 11:39 PM

Lowrence "threw" the buyers, do not buy the device in US online stores.. The&#65279; good device, but originally works not all. The problem is solved by insertion updating to version 1.8, however, adds other problem - there is no Russian and other languages, behind addition support of Lowrence sends to dealers.. Dealers demand very much not the humane prices for it, if you from Russia or Ukraine, look for other options of acquisition
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 11:46 PM

did you download the 1.8? also the elite 7HDI is a true high def down image unit, with a true, dedicated down image crystal.
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/18/13 11:49 PM

Heres the thing, the 700 bucks is geting u a big screen, and gps, thats why its so much. did u know they make an ELITE 7X? iT DOES NOT have gps. so its cheaper,.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/13 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: leanin post
Lowrence "threw" the buyers, do not buy the device in US online stores.. The&#65279; good device, but originally works not all. The problem is solved by insertion updating to version 1.8, however, adds other problem - there is no Russian and other languages, behind addition support of Lowrence sends to dealers.. Dealers demand very much not the humane prices for it, if you from Russia or Ukraine, look for other options of acquisition

Sorry, LP, your comments don't make sense to me and why would I care about the Russian? Are we on the same planet? Just curious. Did someone hijack your name on here?
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/13 05:58 PM

the update is what is important the 1.8 in ther thread
Posted By: AlabamaJack

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/13 06:05 PM

so what I'm reading here is the Down Scan imaging in the Elite 7 HDI is fake?...
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/13 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: AlabamaJack
so what I'm reading here is the Down Scan imaging in the Elite 7 HDI is fake?...

I'm NOT saying that....YET. That is what I'm trying to determine. It could just be me not understanding the unit. DO NOT start a rumor of any kind until we find out.
Sorry if I started something, that was not my intent.
Posted By: AlabamaJack

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/13 07:40 PM

I have had one for about 3 months and used it probably 30 times and it looks good to me...however, this is the first Down Scan unit I have ever had so I don't really know either...

Did you get the Down Scan transducer?
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/13 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: AlabamaJack
I have had one for about 3 months and used it probably 30 times and it looks good to me...however, this is the first Down Scan unit I have ever had so I don't really know either...

Did you get the Down Scan transducer?

Yes, of course. Without the xducer you don't get any pic at all.
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/13 05:32 PM

Okie Bob you sure have bad luck with sonar units dont you, I think you have had just about every unit ever made, and u always get the junk.maybe try some golfing.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/13 08:31 PM

The pics of the elite looks like my hds8 with the downscan overlay on my regular sonar.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/13 09:17 PM

OkieBob,

Could you post a screen capture so the rest of us can see what you are seeing? I don't have an Elite 7 HDI but have the HDS/LSS and would like to compare the two.

THANKS
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/22/13 01:27 PM

I'll see what I can do but, never done that before and not sure I can figure it out!
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/23/13 10:26 AM

Yesterday morning I installed the version 1.8 update and WOW, what a difference it made.....I am hanging my head in shame for even thinking bad things about the Elite 7. The down imaging is all I had hoped it would be and I now love it!
I was too busy using it to even think about screen shots but, without doubt, this is a fantastic unit for the price.
If you want to upgrade to something beyond 2D sonar and can't afford one of the big units, this is the real deal.
Lowrance has a real winner in this unit!
PS: you can get a deal from David at Shutup and Fish and he is a TFF'er.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/23/13 02:47 PM

Glad to hear its not the pos you thought it was! They seem like good graphs for the money.
Posted By: LumberKat

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/26/13 04:57 PM

Does anyone know if the transducer switch box from Lowrance will work with the Elite 7?
Posted By: DA BRUSTER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/11/13 01:04 AM

thanks for that bit of information about the lag time on the sonar, I wondered why they didn't line up with each other on the sonar viewer.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/11/13 03:45 AM

Originally Posted By: DA BRUSTER
thanks for that bit of information about the lag time on the sonar, I wondered why they didn't line up with each other on the sonar viewer.



welcome
Posted By: Josh_W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/13/13 12:30 AM


Got to take out my Elite 7 HDI for the first time today. This seems a bit noisy. Looking for possible methods of clearing it up from you veterans. My transducer is mounted on the transom. I ran dedicated power. All settings are factory.
Posted By: doctorxring

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/13 01:30 AM

.

Try running your boat at 3 to 4 mph on your scanning. That should clear
up your images some. Noise suppression on. Work with the contrast setting.
I would also set the unit to run at 800 kHz.

But from what I've read by "Fishton" on The Hull Truth forum, this unit does not
produce as sharp an image as the HDS units with DownScan just so your
sights are not set too high.

But that's a pretty useable image you have there. I like those crappie
on those pilings. smile

.
Posted By: Josh_W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/13 04:32 PM

Thanks doc, I think I may have spooked them when I went over with the outboard, cause I only caught a few when I trolled back to that spot. And Great info! I will try that and see how it works.

Should I adjust the speed setting?

There is an adjustment that is defaulted to "Fastest" and I wonder if I would get a more crisp image with a slower setting since the boat is traveling slowly. Am I totally off base with this theory?
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/16/13 10:33 PM

A couple from Fork during the Skeeter Owners Tourney:



Posted By: nitroZ7girl

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/23/13 02:51 AM

Grapevine Sandies this week.

Posted By: Josh_W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/23/13 11:10 AM

What are the diagonal lines on the Structure Scan? Is that fish?
Posted By: nitroZ7girl

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/23/13 01:05 PM

on my pic, yes those are fish. We caught and released about 200 sandies at that spot last Wednesday. Middle of the lake straight out from Twin Coves. No wind that afternoon and we had acres and acres of schooling sandies. We caught fish for a couple of hours and left when our arms got tired.
Posted By: Josh_W

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/23/13 05:43 PM

Wow!!! That explains the abundance of diagonal lines.

Sounds like it was fun.

Very nice pic.
Posted By: tallnhairy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/02/13 01:00 AM

Hey guys, this may be a strange question, but here's the deal. I just bought my first bass boat on a tight budget because I wanted to pay cash for a fishable boat. I found an old 85 Skeeter with a 120 Johnson, but the main selling points were the LMS 520c and the Minn Kota Riptide trolling motor. Well, the 4th trip out, after fixing an unbelievable amount of [censored] on this "ready to fish" boat, the fishfinder puked. It will power up if I hold the power button while slapping the unit, but then it immediately powers off. I can't afford a high-dollar unit, and don't really need one, as I'm a strictly recreational fisherman and mainly chase crappie or catfish.
What I need to know is if anyone knows what head units are compatible with my existing 'ducer and puck? For what most folks want for a replacement 520c on eBay, I could go by a complete new unit, but I don't want to spend that much and have to jack with changing everything.

Never mind, right after I posted, I decided it wasn't any good the way it was, so I took the back off of the unit, re-soldered the connection where the ground wire connects to the board, and it powers up like a champ (there was a visible hairline crack). I powered it up and beat the snot out of it with no problems whatsoever, so I'll take it out after work tomorrow and see if it'll find a fish.
Posted By: Ron55

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/03/13 07:40 PM

These HDS Gen2 units can be pretty awesome. I just hope one of these days that I can figure out how to operate the thing smile
Posted By: Spondoly

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/13 10:03 PM

My HDS-7 says the water temperature is 124 degrees. Any way to correct it? Thanks
Posted By: rxkid2001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/13 01:36 AM

For those with rangers is your LSS transducer on the jackplate or under the setback? Did you have to mess with the angle at which it sits?
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/13 10:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Spondoly
My HDS-7 says the water temperature is 124 degrees. Any way to correct it? Thanks


My guess is your temp is pretty accurate!!! Welcome summer in Texas!
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/13 10:57 AM

I'm looking for help in understanding why I can not get the same detail in downscan imaging on my Elite 7 HDI unit that I get in my HDS 8 (gen 1) unit. Is anyone on this forum that can answer detailed information on the differences in the two units? I am a degreed electrical engineer so don't be afraid of getting too technical in the details.
I would be happy to contact tech support for this info but, so far these people are not technical enough to answer my questions.
I would be happy to do this in private messages or even via telephone.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/13/13 11:03 AM

In addition to my previous post seeking info on the difference in downscan between the Elite 7 and HDS8 (gen 1) can someone help me on the subject of 'overlay' capability?
First, what are the advantages and/or disadvantages of overlaying data? Second, can I overlay DI data simultaneously on the 2D sonar page? If not, where do I get the data to overlay?
I'm attempting to optimize the information displayed on either or both the 2D or DI displays. Currently, I do not have the detail on my Elite 7 that I show in my HDS.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Rick61

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 12:31 AM

Just got a boat with a HDS 10, all seems to be working ok, but I am not getting a side imaging and down imaging to come up when not on demo, shows on Demo. Does the LSS1 puck have to be in water to work.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 02:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick61
Just got a boat with a HDS 10, all seems to be working ok, but I am not getting a side imaging and down imaging to come up when not on demo, shows on Demo. Does the LSS1 puck have to be in water to work.


No, the screen will come up but you won't see anything, just black.

Do you have a structure page when you scroll through the main "PAGES". The one that shows chart, sonar, files, etc.

I may be reading your question wrong and if I am then, yes unless you are in water you won't get any reading.
Posted By: Nic Jones

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 02:25 AM

Curious with all the posts on here, why there's not a specific Lowrance forum? And Humminbird for the hummingbird guys? Maybe a sub forum so you don't have to read 33 pages to get the whole convo...
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 02:50 AM

Huh? Your on the Lowrance page, it just gets cluttered after a few pages. What do you want to see?
Posted By: Rick61

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: Rick61
Just got a boat with a HDS 10, all seems to be working ok, but I am not getting a side imaging and down imaging to come up when not on demo, shows on Demo. Does the LSS1 puck have to be in water to work.


No, the screen will come up but you won't see anything, just black.

Do you have a structure page when you scroll through the main "PAGES". The one that shows chart, sonar, files, etc.

I may be reading your question wrong and if I am then, yes unless you are in water you won't get any reading.


Yes i get that page, the page comes up but i do not get anything, just black. It is the same for down imaging or split screen as well. I am trying this in my shop and not at the lake. I know my old Humminbird 998 would still scroll thru even out of water.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 12:54 PM

Oh ok, then No. In order to see anything it has to be in water. You will just have a black screen if out of water.
Posted By: Nic Jones

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Huh? Your on the Lowrance page, it just gets cluttered after a few pages. What do you want to see?


Well, there are about a hundred discussions going on in this 33 page thread, same with the hummingbird thread. Curious if it would be easier to read/respond/share info if there was a separate lowrance and/or hummingbird forum with threads and what have you...
Posted By: furim2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 02:28 PM

You've probably answered this. I've entered the 21st century, and purchased an HDS 12 and 9 touch. My old unit is an LCX-113C HD. How do I transfer my waypoints to the new units?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Nic Jones
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Huh? Your on the Lowrance page, it just gets cluttered after a few pages. What do you want to see?


Well, there are about a hundred discussions going on in this 33 page thread, same with the hummingbird thread. Curious if it would be easier to read/respond/share info if there was a separate lowrance and/or hummingbird forum with threads and what have you...


Ah got ya now, like sub forums in a Lowrance main page. They have that over at bass boat central. Both brands and even image forums too.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: furim2
You've probably answered this. I've entered the 21st century, and purchased an HDS 12 and 9 touch. My old unit is an LCX-113C HD. How do I transfer my waypoints to the new units?


I don't have a positive answer but I see Jason answered it for you on your other post.


Congrats on the new graph purchase, they are awesome after a bit of learning.
Posted By: Nic Jones

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/15/13 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout

Ah got ya now, like sub forums in a Lowrance main page. They have that over at bass boat central. Both brands and even image forums too.


Precicely. Even if it started as a Sub Forum in the General Equipment section much like the "BUILDING BAITS & POURING PLASTICS" sub forum as seen here

Maybe I'm just too dang lazy...
Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/23/13 03:24 AM

Ok.....had an issue with my HDS10 Gen2 the last two trips out. Let me give you a little background first:

-The firmware is up to date with the latest one posted.
-I usually run my SS on 800khz
-I don't have auto range selected on any reading
-I haven't changed any settings in months prior to these issues

2 trips ago, while I was running a split screen with SS, map and 2D, the 2D shot to 500ft deep and hung there. I rebooted the graph 3 times and it finally corrected itself.

Last night when I launched, the SS never came on. That side of the screen said "no source". I unplugged all my cables and put them back in. I turned it back on and it said "no source" again and stayed that way for about 6-8 minutes and then started working. About 30 minutes later the SS side of the screen because very hard to read. The screen was very dark.....like when you are scanning really far out either side and the deeper the water the darker it gets. I changed it to 455khz and it made it slightly better but 800khz was un readable. I was in 6-8FOW and it was set to 30ft. At the same time my 2D started reading 700ft deep.

Again I re-booted it 2-3 times and it never corrected the issue. Tonight I turned it on for about 5 minutes and the issue wasn't there. What could be causing this?

I took a screen shot and you can see the difference where I switched it between 800 to 455 and then back to 800.

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/23/13 12:14 PM

Occasionally when I power on my HDS it gives me the 'no source' message but, it works fine regardless.
But, your problem sounds like something more serious. I'd call Lowrance, you may need to send it in.
Posted By: Chris Coufal

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/24/13 02:37 PM

Has anyone else experienced this? I guess I'll call Lowrance and see if they have any idea
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/25/13 01:52 AM

Point 1 and HDS Gen2 updates now available:


http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Software-Updates/
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/13 12:57 PM

I'd buy a Point 1 in a heartbeat if the Gen 1 HDS would support it and I know some others that would too.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/13 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
I'd buy a Point 1 in a heartbeat if the Gen 1 HDS would support it and I know some others that would too.


From what I understand it will work as a GPS antenna on the gen 1's and give you a EPE of 10-12ft. They say its an awesome antenna.
I keep thinking about getting one now that they finally figured out how to get it to work properly.
Posted By: Duke 59

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/13 06:13 PM

what exactly is a point 1....who is it sold by
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/27/13 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Duke 59
what exactly is a point 1....who is it sold by


Made by Lowrance, it's a GPS antenna that updates 5x per second and is also a heading sensor. So if your sitting still (say drop shotting) your graph won't go nuts and spin in crazy circles, it'll stay just as your sitting.
Posted By: DROPSHOT_528

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/28/13 04:02 PM

on the point 1 upgrade.is that for the one that
is in the head?
Posted By: Bass N Beer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/30/13 12:42 PM

My HDS 10 use to give me a "no source" every once in a while. Talked to Lowrance, and they had me send in the LSS box. Got it back in a week and all was fixed. They said they had to do an update on it, that couldn't be done thru the downloadable updates.
Posted By: bryanv

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/30/13 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: rxkid2001
For those with rangers is your LSS transducer on the jackplate or under the setback? Did you have to mess with the angle at which it sits?


Mine is mounted under the setback. No wedges or anything added. Perfectly clear picture.
Posted By: armadilla

Re: Lowrance SONAR - Need Cable - 08/01/13 03:57 PM

As previously posted: I purchased a used LMS 332c. I just disconnected the old Lowrance 125 I had and plugged the new unit in and the sonar worked great. I thought I just needed a "GPS puck" to make the GPS functional... but, I was wrong again. I needed a puck and a cable. I did get a puck from a TFFer in Gatesville and am quite thankful to him for offering it up at a very reasonable price. Unfortunately, the puck doesn't connect directly to the Sonar Unit, it has to be networked.

I have spent some time searching for a cable. New "network" cable can be purchased from Lowrance at a cost of about $150. Way too much. Also the cable parts I need are classified as obsolete by Lowrance. But, I think I have stumbled upon a possible solution. It is called "Lowrance's simplest network."



This graphic is for an LMS sonar unit and a LGC 3000 or 4000 puck, but I have been told that it will probably work with a LGC 2000 as well. What I don't need is 15 feet of cable. I only need 6 inches or so with inline terminator MALE network cable connectors on the ends (see diagram).

I have talked to techs at Lowrance about finding some used cable with the BLUE network male connectors on them, cutting them off and splicing the cable together. The techs seemed to indicate that the cable might/should work, but they questioned my ability to splice the cable such that it would function. I don't know... maybe and maybe not. I have no idea what the inside of the cable is comprised of.

I guess another option would be to whack the female connector of the end of the puck's cable and attach a male connector, then the puck could be connected directly to the unit, which would be great. I just would hate to risk destroying the puck by cutting off the end and then finding out that it doesn't work. I would like to try the additional piece of cable first.

The end deal here is that I would like to try it. If you have some old Blue network cable you no longer need... (hey, you might have actually purchased a sonar/gps unit with an internal gps antenna, a novel idea) and would like to help find out if this idea will work, contact me and we will work out how to make a deal.

This is a low budget deal. I have been working on this for a while. It is now a curiosity as much as anything. I am using the unit on the front of my boat. I have a very nice unit on my dash with an internal GPS. I just want one for the front for working offshore structure.... If I can get one inexpensively, great, if not that is OK too.
Posted By: ERNEST PATY

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/13 06:31 PM

Question:

When I record a file on my HDS 10 and try to play it back it only plays back the 2D sonar. I record all three channels. I can play it back on my computer using Lowrance's sonar viewer and see all three channels. What am I missing?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/13 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: ERNEST PATY
Question:

When I record a file on my HDS 10 and try to play it back it only plays back the 2D sonar. I record all three channels. I can play it back on my computer using Lowrance's sonar viewer and see all three channels. What am I missing?



I don't remember the exact wording but this is close.
When it goes to the sonar screen to start playing look/pull up the menu and you will see the word "primary" in the menu boxes. Highlight that box and change it to read- down or side.
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/05/13 11:48 PM

Chris..

Here's a post I left on the BBC a few months ago:

not sure if my problem was the same as yours, mine said NO SOURCE.... the fix... try turning the AUTO setting off, then adjust to manual depth. After a few minutes it will reset itself and work again. then can turn it back to AUTO..

See this article to understand it better:
http://doctorsonar.com/pages/auto-range-solution


Hope this helps!
Posted By: shadboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/13 06:57 PM

Never mind. I am not very bright today. LOL

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/16/13 10:39 AM

I have an HDS8 gen 1 with an older Navionics chip on my console and an Elite 7 on the bow with whatever mapping sw that came with it.
I don't use mapping sw for navigation, only for storing and navigating to waypoints.
I'm considering buying an HDS7 with either an LSS1 or 2 for this unit and it comes with Lakemaster sw included.
My question is will waypoints from one unit be compatible between both units? I will have them connected via Ethernet.
I'm assuming this will work but, don't like to assume anything.

Also, if I purchase a Point-1 puck for the HDS7, I understand it will work as advertised? But, seem to recall it only works on HDS8 gen 2 and above?
If it would work on the 7, I might swap out the two units placing the 7 on the console so I would have faster updates to get to a waypoint and then slower, as it now is, updates on the bow which would be ok until I am forced to update to a gen 2 unit on the bow.
Any comments?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/16/13 03:25 PM

Okie, when the Point 1 first came out Lowrance said it would not work with gen 1's, well apparently they were wrong because they work back to/with the old 520's. I want to get one but have had a few major expenses the last few months, eventually.

On the Lakemaster thing I have no clue, in fact I thought Lakemaster wouldn't even work on the new Lowrance graphs. Maybe it's just the features that won't work?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/17/13 02:58 AM


Lowrance Point-1 GPS Antenna

High-Sensitivity GPS/GLONASS Antenna
w/Built-in Compass Deliver Faster, More Accurate Position-Update Rates For Smoother Chartplotting Functionality

The Lowrance Point-1 antenna provides best-in-class GPS/GLONASS positioning along with industry-leading, 10Hz GPS performance for smooth and accurate location updates. Equipped with an integrated electronic compass with GPS, the antenna provides accurate heading for stable chart orientation in the Heading Up mode, improved Course Over Ground at low speeds and radar overlay on your chart. All of these features are possible with affordable module options that easily connect through an NMEA 2000® network.

Compatibility
HDS Gen2 Touch
HDS Gen2
Elite-7 chartplotter and fishfinder/chartplotter combos


Key features of the Point-1:
NMEA 2000 antenna module offers rugged and precise position, and heading sensor
Spot-on, around-the-world accuracy - supporting GPS and GLONASS, WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS; Galileo-capable with future software update
Excellent time-to-first-fix, with 10Hz, multi-GNSS, high-speed updates - up to 10 times per second - for smoother and more accurate location updates
Integrated electronic compass with GPS provides vessel heading with rate stabilization that provides heading output for accurate chart orientation in the Heading Up mode, improved Course Over Ground at low speed, and radar overlay (not intended for MARPA or Autopilot Control)
Rugged design for all marine environments and fully waterproof
Include spat/pole mount for easy installation and flexible boat location for optimal performance
Independent source selection on any display


You will be able to share data only when two units are linked together via an Ethernet cable. The Elite 7 will require the NMEA 2000 network starter kit to link to any HDS series.

LakeMaster is only compatible with Humminbird. Navionics is what you will need for Lowrance. The Elite 7 will only accept the Premium SD Micro SD card.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/17/13 12:24 PM

David, I have the NMEA 2000 connecting my HDS8 gen 1 to my Elite 7 and it still does not share waypoints. For some reason, new waypoints are shared....sometimes....but, not all times. But, the old waypoints in my HDS 8 will NOT share on the Elite 7.

So, will the Point 1 work on my gen 1 or not? I keep hearing conflicting reports. If it does, maybe it doesn't use all the features of the Point 1? I'm tempted to buy one and try it and see for myself.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/17/13 01:36 PM

Yes it will work. Go over to bassboatcentral.com Lowrance page and read all the post about it. Or go to the FAQ on Lowrances site and it says it will work, apparently when it first came out they wrote it would not be compatable. It must work better (maybe quicker????) with the gen 2 though since there are updates for the point 1 & gen 2's.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/18/13 05:29 PM

I have the point-1 connected to my HDS-7 Gen1 and it works great. At first I used it for both the GPS antenna and the heading sensor and had no problems. I now just use it as the heading sensor since the Point-1 is mounted at the Stern and the HDS-7 is at the bow. I use the HDS-7's internal antenna for GPS. On my console mounted HSD-8 GEN2 I use the point-1 for both GPS and heading sensor. Below was taken from the Lowrance FAQ.

Will Point-1 work with my HDS Gen1?
The Point-1 antenna/heading sensor is a standard NMEA2000® device. Therefore, it will connect to any NMEA2000® backbone and communicate with any NMEA device on that same network. The HDS Gen2 models, both keypad and touch, with software version 2.0 or higher will have GPS damping and filtering features, as well as the ability to initiate heading calibration from the HDS, that will not be present in any HDS Gen1.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/20/13 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: MAK747
I have the point-1 connected to my HDS-7 Gen1 and it works great. At first I used it for both the GPS antenna and the heading sensor and had no problems. I now just use it as the heading sensor since the Point-1 is mounted at the Stern and the HDS-7 is at the bow. I use the HDS-7's internal antenna for GPS. On my console mounted HSD-8 GEN2 I use the point-1 for both GPS and heading sensor. Below was taken from the Lowrance FAQ.

Will Point-1 work with my HDS Gen1?
The Point-1 antenna/heading sensor is a standard NMEA2000® device. Therefore, it will connect to any NMEA2000® backbone and communicate with any NMEA device on that same network. The HDS Gen2 models, both keypad and touch, with software version 2.0 or higher will have GPS damping and filtering features, as well as the ability to initiate heading calibration from the HDS, that will not be present in any HDS Gen1.

Thanks Mak, that is exactly what I was wanting to know!
Posted By: rxkid2001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/23/13 08:24 PM

Finally got to use my new HDS 9 with its full capabilities. What on earth was I doing with birds? Its night and day better!
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/12/13 04:00 PM

Just got a HDS7 Touch and am amazed at what I have been seeing. Pics were taking with a cell phone so not even close to what they look like in real time.







Anybody want to buy two used HB units?!?!?
Posted By: Sprint Runner

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/13 03:13 AM

On the right side of the screen of the touch units is your menu for that screen. So if you are in structue scan the menu on the right if for structure scan. Instead of scrolling right or left with that menu, pull your finger down from the top and it will have a different menu. In that menu should give you the options for overlays. Let me know if it works for you.
Posted By: Trickster

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/27/13 07:41 PM

Tried the Point 1 and Elite 7 HDS out last Sunday. Really like the Point 1 features.
Posted By: rxkid2001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/28/13 11:55 PM

I'm trying to connect a point1 antenna and can't find the NEMA2000 kits anywhere. Is that an item that always has to be ordered?
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/29/13 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: rxkid2001
I'm trying to connect a point1 antenna and can't find the NEMA2000 kits anywhere. Is that an item that always has to be ordered?
We have the NMEA 2000 starter kits in stock. The NMEA 2000 network is required in order to add any external antenna to your Lowrance HDS/LCX/LMS unit. If you are wanting to share the antenna with more than one unit, you may need more T-Connectors and extension cables than comes in the kit.

I would be happy to discuss what parts you need and how they should be wired up. Just give me a call..

Brian
888-570-0916

Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/13 07:51 PM

BBG is a good choice.
On another note though, it's "NMEA", not "NEMA", an extremely common confusion (nearly every thread on the subject has many people putting NEMA). Could be why it's harder to find in searches though .
NMEA = National Marine Electronics Association (boat electronics)
NEMA = National Electrical Manufacturer's Association (home electricity).
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/02/13 11:33 AM

Got my Point 1 from Shutup and Fish and installed it but, have not yet put the boat in the water.
There is no mention in the instructions that came with it concerning the Elite 7 so I need to know what I should do when first hitting the lake? I assume I need to go to the NMEA 2000 tab and select the Pt 1 but, is there anything else I need to do?
I plan to do the calibration procedure that came with the instructions.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/04/13 04:29 AM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Got my Point 1 from Shutup and Fish and installed it but, have not yet put the boat in the water.
There is no mention in the instructions that came with it concerning the Elite 7 so I need to know what I should do when first hitting the lake? I assume I need to go to the NMEA 2000 tab and select the Pt 1 but, is there anything else I need to do?
I plan to do the calibration procedure that came with the instructions.


Bobby,

Make sure you have updated your units software to the latest version to accept the Point 1 before hitting the water for calibration.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/04/13 10:37 AM

David, I did the cal when I got out yesterday morning and I am a very happy camper!!!! This Point 1 solved my problem perfectly!!! Actually, it is working on my HDS 8 gen 1 even better than I had hoped. I love it and highly recommend to everyone with an HDS.

However, I am having problems with my Elite, it does not get waypoints from my HDS. When I go to the Network menu, it shows the HDS and the Point 1. Everything seems to work except no waypoints. On the HDS under network I do have the boxes checked to share waypoints both sending and receiving.
Maybe I should start another post with this question, in fact I'm going to do that now.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/04/13 11:48 AM

Unlike the HDS series, the Elite 7 will not synchronize and save existing waypoints. Only new waypoints that you add from now on will show on both units.

Brian
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/13 12:32 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Unlike the HDS series, the Elite 7 will not synchronize and save existing waypoints. Only new waypoints that you add from now on will show on both units.

Brian


Wow, what a bummer! Sure wish I'd known that in advance.
Do you know of a way to download waypoints from my HDS 8 gen 1 and somehow load them into my Elite 7? I'm thinking maybe
there is some way to do it???
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/13 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Unlike the HDS series, the Elite 7 will not synchronize and save existing waypoints. Only new waypoints that you add from now on will show on both units.

Brian


Wow, what a bummer! Sure wish I'd known that in advance.
Do you know of a way to download waypoints from my HDS 8 gen 1 and somehow load them into my Elite 7? I'm thinking maybe
there is some way to do it???
Use an SD card with the Micro card inside making sure the card is formatted first. When you copy the files over from your HDS unit, choose the "User Datafile" version # 3 . Then load the micro-sd card in the Elite 7 and your waypoints should transfer over.

Typing this from memory but I'm pretty sure that's all you need to do as the file formats should be the same on both units.

Brian
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/13 02:53 PM

Wow, so you mean the formats and all are the same? I can and have saved HDS waypoints to SD card and since I have the adapter it should be a piece of cake!!! That will help a bunch. Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/13 04:38 PM

Any rebates coming out soon? I might pull the plug on a Touch 12 anytime now.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/13 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Gonzz
Any rebates coming out soon? I might pull the plug on a Touch 12 anytime now.


Not sure about any rebates coming out anytime soon but I now they are currently on sale.



David @ shut-up-and-fish
972 822 9285
Posted By: 10lberfork

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/13 07:19 PM

Ok I have hds 10 nema to elite 7hdi my question is I see weird things on my graph at first I think I see fish then I see like long slash marks going across my screen some big some small and I catch nothing around this behavior, I fish fork all the time and I have seen this more then once at different areas of the lake. what is my graph showing me sometimes looks like octopus with tenecles out all across the screen. is my elite 7 hdi messed up thanks mike
Posted By: trlrman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/13 07:24 PM

David you know anything about the spotlight release ?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/25/13 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Gatorkidd
Ok I have hds 10 nema to elite 7hdi my question is I see weird things on my graph at first I think I see fish then I see like long slash marks going across my screen some big some small and I catch nothing around this behavior, I fish fork all the time and I have seen this more then once at different areas of the lake. what is my graph showing me sometimes looks like octopus with tenecles out all across the screen. is my elite 7 hdi messed up thanks mike


Mike, It is most likely air you are seeing as fork is turning over right now. Its just about finished. Often you will get that when a lake is turning over.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/25/13 02:58 PM


Originally Posted By: trlrman
David you know anything about the spotlight release ?


Lowrance SpotlightScan Sonar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEVvtveVJA

--Forward- and surround-scan imaging for your HDS Gen2 and HDS Gen2 Touch displays

--Quickly identify key fishing areas before your first cast

--Do-it-yourself, bow-mount installation for foot-control, cable-steer trolling motors

--Operating frequencies: SpotlightScan (455/800 kHz); DownScan Imaging® (455/800 kHz); and Broadband Sounder™ (83/200 kHz)


The Lowrance SpotlightScan Trolling Motor Transducer is required for adding Spotlightscan Sonar to your Lowrance HDS Gen2* and Gen2 Touch
fishfinder/chartplotter displays. This incredible sonar provides a new level of angler-controlled, forward- and surround-scanning views to provide picture-like images of key fishing areas. SpotlightScan Sonar clearly pinpoints structure and fish targets ahead and around your boat, similar to the way a scanning spotlight reveals objects in the dark. Consequently, you save valuable time on the water and maintain focus on the most productive fishing spots without disturbing these areas before you have a chance to fish them. The SpotLightScan Transducer also features DownScan Imaging and Broadband Sounder for the bet possible view beneath your boat.

NOTE: HDS Gen2 (non Touch) models require the SonarHub™ module for compatibility with the SpotlightScan tranducer.

It seems to be Lowrances response to Humminbirds 360 Image.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEVvtveVJA

David @ shut-up-and-fish
Posted By: ZeeFish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/26/13 11:54 PM

I have a HDS 8 gen. 1
Just had LSS installed my side imaging is working fine but I can not see where Down imaging is
Does it not work on this unit or do I need to change some setting?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/27/13 03:21 AM

Originally Posted By: ZeeFish
I have a HDS 8 gen. 1
Just had LSS installed my side imaging is working fine but I can not see where Down imaging is
Does it not work on this unit or do I need to change some setting?


Press the menu button (while on the structure scan page), then find the "view" option. Select it and your options will be down, right, left & right/left.
Posted By: Costa Plente

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/13 02:24 PM

This was probably covered somewhere in the 35 prior pages, but I didn't find it. What is a Soft Reset and how and when do you need to do it? Also I think I read somewhere that you should set your "Ping Setting" lower than the max. Why do you need to do this and how is it done? I don't have my boat with me right now, but if I remember right the last time I tried to adjust the Ping Setting the unit wouldn't let me. I have two HDS 8s Gen 1 with LSS 1 connected by either cables. Thanks
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/27/13 03:10 PM

Others in here know more about sonar than me but I like to keep my ping speed at max. I adjust my scroll speed to try to match the speed of the boat.
Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/16/13 02:58 AM

My question is about Range. The manual does not go into enough detail on this.
How should it be set if I never fish deeper than 50 feet? I really just want it on auto for surface to any depth. I can only get it to do auto with some selection of a depth. Is there not an "auto" without a set depth?
Posted By: GoFishNow

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/18/13 04:51 AM

I found the answer at BPS. Just set it at 60Auto.
Posted By: rlfisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/13 03:25 AM

How do you get the distance from the boat to a waypoint to show up next to the waypoint I had it working at one time. I know how to get a humminbird to do it and at one time my HDS 8 did it but I have no ideal how I did it. I like to anchor off the fish so I set a waypoint and then like to watch the feet to the waypoint and cast to the area it just a little box next to the waypoint.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/20/13 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: rlfisher
How do you get the distance from the boat to a waypoint to show up next to the waypoint I had it working at one time. I know how to get a humminbird to do it and at one time my HDS 8 did it but I have no ideal how I did it. I like to anchor off the fish so I set a waypoint and then like to watch the feet to the waypoint and cast to the area it just a little box next to the waypoint.


Did this not work?

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/9539370/Re:_Lowrance_HDS_8_GEN_2#Post9539370


Hmmm, not sure why the shortcut doesn't link to the page? Copy & paste to the browser.
Posted By: rlfisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/20/13 03:41 AM

No when I went to the menu it has a space for measure but not DTD option
Posted By: Dan90210 â®

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/28/13 10:55 PM

Just got a new unit, before I just had a little pirańa unit.

Watched vids in u tube and have some idea what I am seeing, fish, brush and weeds

But what's this? I thought bait but it went in for 1/4 mile on a 30 acre pond

The pond is connected to the trinity so has all the fish the trinity does




Posted By: Michael Ray

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/13 05:30 AM

Anyone have an idea as too how long you could run a HDS Touch 7 off a 10.5 Amp Hour battery. Looking at getting one and just wondering about run time.
Posted By: DROPSHOT_528

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/13 02:02 PM

need a little help.

just finished putting a hds8 gen 2 on boat.
at low speeds works great.but the faster I
go the more blue dots show up all over the
screen.is this a setting problem or something
else.just cant get it right.

thanks for the help.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/13 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: DROPSHOT_528
need a little help.

just finished putting a hds8 gen 2 on boat.
at low speeds works great.but the faster I
go the more blue dots show up all over the
screen.is this a setting problem or something
else.just cant get it right.

thanks for the help.


Metal or glass boat? Inhull or transome mount transducer?
Posted By: DROPSHOT_528

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/13 07:50 PM

forgot that part.lol

metal and it on the outside
right of the motor.
Posted By: PhishWhisperer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/14 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Michael Ray
Anyone have an idea as too how long you could run a HDS Touch 7 off a 10.5 Amp Hour battery. Looking at getting one and just wondering about run time.


Per Lowrance website, the HDS7 Touch consumes 12 Watts, so...

Unit current draw = 12 Watts/12 Volts = 1 Amp

then, run time = 10.5 Amp-Hr/1 Amp = 10.5 Hr

Note: all these units act up if the voltage drops below specs!!!
Posted By: Codybphillips

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/06/14 09:13 PM

I have an hds 10 with lss1 transducer
What's the easiest way to make the transducer stop making that ticking sound even when the unit is off?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/06/14 10:50 PM



Lowrance transducer exchange program. No longer will customers be required to send their transducer in for a swap out. Under the new program the customer will:

1) Upon purchase of a qualifying Lowrance sonar system, the customer can receive a promotional code from Lowrance Customer Service (800) 324-1356 that will be entered into the Lowrance eCommerce site. http://store.navico.com
2) This code will allow the customer to purchase a new transducer for their product at 50% of retail, without sending in the transducer their Lowrance product shipped with.
a. Customers must also enter their unit’s serial number into the eCommerce site.
3) The purchased transducer will be shipped to the customer’s supplied address.

This new program will allow customers across the United States to always get the correct transducer they need for their Lowrance product. Under the new program, they will not need to mail in their Skimmer® transducer that shipped with their Lowrance product; therefore they will also have a back-up transducer. In addition to being able to keep their original transducer, the customer should also expect faster shipping and delivery times.

Transducers eligible for this new program:

HST-WSBL
000-0106-72
83/200 kHz transom-mount high-speed, low-profile Skimmer® transducer with built-in temp. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

HS-WSBL
000-0106-71
83/200 kHz transom-mount high-speed, low-profile Skimmer® transducer, no temp. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

PDRT-WBL
000-0106-89
83/200kHz trolling motor-mount or shoot-thru-hull pod transducer with remote temp. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

PD-WBL
000-0106-73
83/200kHz trolling motor-mount or shoot-thru-hull pod transducer, no temp. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

PDT-WBL
000-0106-74
83/200kHz trolling motor-mount or shoot-thru-hull pod transducer with built-in depth. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

HST-DFSBL
000-0106-77
50/200kHz transom-mount high-speed, low-profile Skimmer® transducer with built-in temp. Blue connector
Works with: HDS, HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch, Elite-7

HST-WSU
000-0106-48
83/200lHz transom-mount high-speed, low-profile Skimmer® transducer with built in temp. Uniplug
Works with: X-4, X-4 Pro, Mark-4, Elite-4x, Elite-4, Mark-5x, Mark-5x Pro, Elite-5x, Elite-5

PDRT-WSU
000-0106-69
83/200kHz trolling motor-mount or shoot-thru-hull pod transducer with remote temp. Uniplug
Works with: X-4, X-4 Pro, Mark-4, Elite-4x, Elite-4, Mark-5x, Mark-5x Pro, Elite-5x, Elite-5

PDT-WSU
000-0106-52
83/200kHz trolling motor-mount or shoot-thru-hull pod transducer with built-in depth. Uniplug
Works with: X-4, X-4 Pro, Mark-4, Elite-4x, Elite-4, Mark-5x, Mark-5x Pro, Elite-5x, Elite-5
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/06/14 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Codybphillips
I have an hds 10 with lss1 transducer
What's the easiest way to make the transducer stop making that ticking sound even when the unit is off?


Does your LSS1 structurescan module stay on when you turn off the HDS-10?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/07/14 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: shut-up-and-fish
Originally Posted By: Codybphillips
I have an hds 10 with lss1 transducer
What's the easiest way to make the transducer stop making that ticking sound even when the unit is off?


Does your LSS1 structurescan module stay on when you turn off the HDS-10?



Yeah, I can't think of any other reason as to why the LSS ducer would still work. Must be hard wired???
Posted By: young cat

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/08/14 03:43 AM

Can anyone tell me how I can use my hds 10 gen 1 at home so I can try it out and make sure it has all the updates in it
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/08/14 04:51 AM

Originally Posted By: young cat
Can anyone tell me how I can use my hds 10 gen 1 at home so I can try it out and make sure it has all the updates in it


The last update for the gen 1 series was 4.1

You can buy a invertor or use a small battery but either way you will need an extra power cord. Lowrance makes a cigarette lighter power cord and you could buy a battery clip for it.
Posted By: WAWI

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/11/14 09:47 PM

HELP! My hds units are not speaking to each other. They aren't sharing waypoints nor allowing me to select source. I have checked the settings on both and nema is set to send and recieve on on both units. When I look at the directory all devices show up on both, when I turn on off that device disapears from the directory. Units linked together with nema cable and lss 1. they are gen 1 (i know i need to upgrade). Any advice from the gurus?????
Posted By: WAWI

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/11/14 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: whatsaweighin
HELP! My hds units are not speaking to each other. They aren't sharing waypoints nor allowing me to select source. I have checked the settings on both and nema is set to send and recieve on on both units. When I look at the directory all devices show up on both, when I turn on off that device disapears from the directory. Units linked together with nema cable and lss 1. they are gen 1 (i know i need to upgrade). Any advice from the gurus?????

I figured it out, I declare myself a guru.
Posted By: Dan90210 â®

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/14 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Dan90210
Just got a new unit, before I just had a little pirańa unit.

Watched vids in u tube and have some idea what I am seeing, fish, brush and weeds

But what's this? I thought bait but it went in for 1/4 mile on a 30 acre pond

The pond is connected to the trinity so has all the fish the trinity does






Thoughts?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/14 03:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Dan90210
Originally Posted By: Dan90210
Just got a new unit, before I just had a little pirańa unit.

Watched vids in u tube and have some idea what I am seeing, fish, brush and weeds

But what's this? I thought bait but it went in for 1/4 mile on a 30 acre pond

The pond is connected to the trinity so has all the fish the trinity does






Thoughts?


My thought would be the pond was turning over but not real sure with the water temp. Not sure what time of year the pick was taken.
Posted By: Dan90210 â®

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/14 04:15 AM

^^^

Photos were 12/28/13

It was cold for sure. Post ice storm even.
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/14 06:33 PM

All the bait fish and others ran to hug the bottom after a cold front. Very difficult to get bit on days like that.
Posted By: Sprint Runner

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/14 02:53 PM

So David, is there an official release date that they will be available for sale or are they already available? If so, how much would a spotlight scan transducer and a Sonic hub be?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/14 05:47 PM


ETA date is showing from 2/7 - 3/7/2014

I will PM you a quote...
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/17/14 02:14 AM

This is from an Elite 4X. Can someone explain what all the color is? Just looks like a jumbled up mess to me. This is on a yak just drifting along the Trinity.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/17/14 04:21 AM

That jumbled mess is one of the following: gar, catfish, carp, bass or turtles. I might have forgotten something so basically it's something swimming in the water.
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/17/14 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
That jumbled mess is one of the following: gar, catfish, carp, bass or turtles. I might have forgotten something so basically it's something swimming in the water.


Lol I figure it musta been something in the water. Is that a "normal" looking picture as far as detail goes without any clearly define edges?

What would cause a green return? Dirt maybe? I ask cause the other day I was in a creek 15-20' deep. I got a solid green return from 10-13' mark for maybe about 3/4 of a mile. At first I thought it may have been a massive school of bait fish but a quick throw of the cast net only turned up a dozen shad so I'm assuming the yellow and red specs in the green mass where the shad. We've had recent rains also so the creek was up and flowing pretty good. So could it be dirt? Thermocline?

Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/14 01:56 AM

Honestly I don't know, I haven't used that graph before and the HDS series that I do have has a different color. But it is possible that the green means a softer item. On my graph yellow is hard, red is medium & blue is soft.

The sonar returns look pretty decent, you were sitting still or moving slow correct?
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/14 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Honestly I don't know, I haven't used that graph before and the HDS series that I do have has a different color. But it is possible that the green means a softer item. On my graph yellow is hard, red is medium & blue is soft.

The sonar returns look pretty decent, you were sitting still or moving slow correct?


All my manual said was yellow is hardest return and reddish blue(?) was the weakest. I'm still playing with the colorline setting even though I'm not sure what exactly I'm looking at.

Yes sir, just drifting with the current. Though at 3.5-4mph it looks the same to me.

Thanks for the help.
Posted By: dradkins

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/20/14 08:44 PM

I am having hell getting anyone to be able to get my Lowrance units to communicate. I dont think it should be that big of an issue. I have three units and a sonic hub but none of them communicate and the sonic hub isnt powering on. Do you guys have any recommendations in northeast houston or baytown area. Do we have any pro staffers in this area?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/20/14 10:13 PM

Used to have a pro staffer but he doesn't post here much anymore. First thing I'd check if I was you is the Ethernet cables, there have been a lot of complaints about bad ones. Make sure the sonic hub has the yellow wake up wire attached to the graphs yellow wire.
Posted By: J-SPENCER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/21/14 09:35 PM

I recently purchased a new (used) bay boat that has a HDS8 with structure scan and side imaging. I'm slowly but surely figuring out the settings on the HDS8, but I'm having some problems navigating from screen to screen. My other boat has all Humminbird electronics (997,interlink,858). The humminbirds have three preset buttons for your "favorites" but I can't figure out how to do it on the Lowrance without hitting PAGES and scrolling to the screen I want. There has to be an easier way!!!! Please Help



Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/14 05:53 PM

J- Spencer,

Yes you can save your most commonly used pages. Press the page button to enter the pages screen and then perform the following. This was copied from the HDS-8 owners manual.

To save pages:
1. Select the desired page or tool.
2. Press and hold the desired softkey until
the saved pages field is populated with
the selected data.
3. To view saved page data, press the
softkey directly below the desired saved
page icon.
Posted By: J-SPENCER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/14 07:09 PM

Thanks MAK747, I'll try that
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/14 07:25 PM

The soft keys are a big time saver!
Posted By: J-SPENCER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/27/14 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: MAK747
J- Spencer,

Yes you can save your most commonly used pages. Press the page button to enter the pages screen and then perform the following. This was copied from the HDS-8 owners manual.

To save pages:
1. Select the desired page or tool.
2. Press and hold the desired softkey until
the saved pages field is populated with
the selected data.
3. To view saved page data, press the
softkey directly below the desired saved
page icon.


wont work for me!! It's running version 2.1something...I tried updating it and it wont take the update????
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/28/14 03:40 AM

What gen is your HDS 8? If it's a gen 1 then you need the 4.1 update. If it's a gen 2 then 2.1 is the newest; but make sure you aren't downloading the Touch graphs update instead of the regular gen 2 update.


Also you have to be on the main pages to save the soft keys.
Posted By: J-SPENCER

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/28/14 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
What gen is your HDS 8? If it's a gen 1 then you need the 4.1 update. If it's a gen 2 then 2.1 is the newest; but make sure you aren't downloading the Touch graphs update instead of the regular gen 2 update.


Also you have to be on the main pages to save the soft keys.


It's a GEN 1, I've been trying to put the 4.1 update in it. I played around with a friends HDS10 so I would know how to set the soft keys. Mine wont do it.... I've tried to do it every which way. I've erased the card and started over at least 5 times. I'm gonna try a different SD card today. Not trying to knock Lowrance, but I've never had this trouble with any of my humminbirds!! So far I'm really impressed with the quality of returns I'm getting compared to the Bird, but navigating from page to page is making me crazy !!!!!

Thanks again for every ones help.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/28/14 11:13 PM

Yes do try a different sd card and I've even read that certain computer software programs can make a difference. You are following the directions on Lowrances site exactly, right? (I'm sure you are but they are pretty detailed). The page setting issue is a bit odd and I wonder if maybe you need to try a soft reset or call Lowrance tech support. I have a gen 1 and have had no problems with it but I will admit the new Touch series are ALOT better to navigate through the pages.

The updates can be a problem for both brands apparently, there's a post on BBC right now about how mad a guy is because his brand new 998's won't update (neither of them, (2)).
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/06/14 12:09 PM

I currently have a 9Touch on the console and an HDS8 Gen 1 on the bow.
Plan to upgrade soon to a 9Touch on the bow.
I'm asking for help on how to go with the transducer.
IF the Spotlight transducer is as good as advertised, I'll probably go with it.
I understand it does side scan/down scan and 2D sounder all in one??? If so, I don't need the LSS-2 transducer. Anyone know for sure if this is correct?
Also understand the CHIRP is built into the Spotlight xducer too but, not sure I'm reading right.
I understand the Spotlight is scheduled to start shipping this week, can any one confirm this?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/06/14 01:52 PM

The spotlight doesn't do side image. It does down, sonar and a sweeping image which requires you moving the pedal constantly. I'm going to wait this one out because I'm skeptical.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/06/14 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
I currently have a 9Touch on the console and an HDS8 Gen 1 on the bow.
Plan to upgrade soon to a 9Touch on the bow.
I'm asking for help on how to go with the transducer.
IF the Spotlight transducer is as good as advertised, I'll probably go with it.
I understand it does side scan/down scan and 2D sounder all in one??? If so, I don't need the LSS-2 transducer. Anyone know for sure if this is correct?
Also understand the CHIRP is built into the Spotlight xducer too but, not sure I'm reading right.
I understand the Spotlight is scheduled to start shipping this week, can any one confirm this?
I would consider 2 options for the Touch on the bow:

*Lowrance HDI transducer 83/200/455/800khz that will give you 2D sonar and down scan and plugs right in to a touch unit.

*Spotlight scan transducer that has 2D Digital Broadband Sonar (NO CHIRP) , Down scan and Spotlight Scan and will also plug in to the Touch.

*In order to use the TM150 Chirp transducer, You will need the SonarHub as it will not work on the HDS units w/o it.

Brian
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/06/14 06:05 PM


Originally Posted By: grout-scout
The spotlight doesn't do side image. It does down, sonar and a sweeping image which requires you moving the pedal constantly. I'm going to wait this one out because I'm skeptical.


This Bobby....Be patient and lets get some reviews in before diving in.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/06/14 11:04 PM


If you have a Gen2 Touch unit the spotlightscan transducer will be all you need as the touch models have the sonarhub technology for the spotlightscan transducer built in.

For those that have the traditional HDS (non touch) models it will require the spotlightscan transducer and sonarhub which replaces your LSS2 structurescan module box.

Lowrance unveiled two new products for 2014 at the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show. The first will pique the interest of anglers who fish from the bow with a cable steer trolling motor with a new transducer and functionality called SpotlightScan. SpotlightScan gives the angler the ability to scan outward with a sweep of the trolling motor head.

The onscreen guide lines on the SpotlightScan show white when you’re sweeping at a good speed and red when you’re sweeping too fast to ensure you’re getting a good picture. The best part is that anglers already using the Lowrance HDS Touch units, can just install the new transducer and plug and play. The new transducer does Sonar, StructureScan, DownScan and now SpotlightScan. Truly enabling you to see fish and cover all around you under the surface at an affordable price point and it works with both Minn Kota and MotorGuide trolling motors.

Click here to read the white paper on the new SpotlightScan http://www.lowrance.com/Root/Lowrance-Documents/US/Spotlight.pdf
Anglers will install a sensor on the foot pedal of a cable steer trolling motor and put the transducer on the trolling motor head. Then either hook direct to the back of an HDS touch unit or hook to their other new technology, the SonarHub. The sensor on the foot pedal connects to the NMEA backbone to transmit scanning speed to the units, etc.

The SonarHub is much more than just a way to connect the new SpotlightScan to HDS units without touch screens. It’s a new and improved sonar addition to your HDS network that enables Chirp technology to give better separation and clearer sonar interpretation to your HDS units. Chirp technology really excels in deeper water and higher speeds, by using multiple frequency scanning to produce ultra-clear displays of what’s under the water.

You can install it quickly, and it gives you constant feedback so you know you’re always getting a good sweep with your trolling motor head so you get a good picture on your unit.
Posted By: turbo2nr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/14 10:09 PM

Have gen 1 HDS 8 and 5, I see screen shots of SI/DI and sonar online that are incredibly clear, Iv searched online, watched the Dr sonar video on setting it up and it never looks as good as online
Any one have any suggestions of something I might be missing or can point me in the right direction.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/14 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: turbo2nr
Have gen 1 HDS 8 and 5, I see screen shots of SI/DI and sonar online that are incredibly clear, Iv searched online, watched the Dr sonar video on setting it up and it never looks as good as online
Any one have any suggestions of something I might be missing or can point me in the right direction.



One answer is clear clean water. Clear water will give better images. If I go to Canyon lake I get pretty good images, if I go to Choke they get a bit blurry. Also run the lss1 transducer on 800. If you have the LSS2, which I don't think you do since you have gen 1 graphs; but if you have lss2 run it on 455.
Posted By: Joefishin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/14 03:41 PM

I have a Gen 2 Touch 9. I am looking for a front graph and am confused with all the different products and their interoperability. I understand the Touch units have the SonarHub or Structure Scan capability built in. A Gen 2 touch 7 obviously would work on the front and prevent me from having to buy any of the 'boxes'. However that price is a little above the budget I want to spend on the front graph.

My question is what graph would you guys recommend to network with the 9 touch that will also provide me 2d, Downscan and GPS. Also what transducer would you recommend?

I would prefer a 7 inch unit, but that is where my dilemna comes in. The HDS7 Gen2 is 850 bucks and you add the SonarHub at 599, you might as well buy the 7 touch..... Of course then you can't use the 'Chirp' but really, how much will 'Chirp' help in our shallow lakes aside from graphing fish at 50mph.....

Thanks in advance
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/14 07:13 PM

Joe, if you buy a Touch you can buy a HDI transducer that will give you 2d sonar & downscan. I think it's around 200 bucks. It will only work with the Touch graphs and the Elite series. Have you looked at the Elite series? $700 bucks but not the same quality as the HDS series.
Posted By: Joefishin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/14 07:56 PM

I like the price point of the Elite, but not sure I like that it's NMEA only and not Ethernet. I worry about it handcuffing me down the road......

I'm unsure if I will be interested in Spotlight Scan or 'CHIRP' in the future either, but I don't think the Elite will do that correct?

It's a tough decision because that is a nice unit at that price....compared to anywhere from 1200 dollars for a used HDS7, Structure Scan and a Ducer or 1500 dollars for the 7 Touch.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/14 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Joefishin
I like the price point of the Elite, but not sure I like that it's NMEA only and not Ethernet. I worry about it handcuffing me down the road......

I'm unsure if I will be interested in Spotlight Scan or 'CHIRP' in the future either, but I don't think the Elite will do that correct?

It's a tough decision because that is a nice unit at that price....compared to anywhere from 1200 dollars for a used HDS7, Structure Scan and a Ducer or 1500 dollars for the 7 Touch.


Give me a call Joe. I would be happy to assist you. "if you are not in my list of v/mails I have not got to yet"
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/22/14 04:23 AM

Yes the Elite sure is a great price compared to the others but there are a few drawbacks. Ones I've read or can think of off the top of my head: no Ethernet as you mentioned, only 1 year warranty vs. the 2 on the HDS, not same quality as the HDS, I've read several complaints from guys who say they can't get good images from the Elite .
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/24/14 01:14 PM

You are probably going to be happier if you wait and save enough to get what you really want. I'm thinking another Touch???? With another Touch you won't need a sonic hub or an LSS box. You get plenty of Ethernet ports plus NMEA2000 and the Spotlight won't require a Sonic Hub either.
Do yourself a favor and call David at Shutup-and-Fish, great guy that can really help you out with various options.
Posted By: Joefishin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/24/14 03:05 PM

Thanks for the help guys, I'll give David a holler this afternoon.
Posted By: hookinbass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/14 02:02 AM

is this bass or what? I'm new to this structure scan
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/14 04:48 AM

Does the LSS Structure Scan HD module get hot? Is it OK to mount it directly to the carpet?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/25/14 07:23 AM


Originally Posted By: CB327
Does the LSS Structure Scan HD module get hot? Is it OK to mount it directly to the carpet?


It may get warm to the touch but it will not harm the carpet.
Posted By: pinesjunkie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/14 04:01 AM

Ok guys going to update my bird units and think I may give lowrance a try again after my latest up date making my units [censored],, so going with a HD12 on the back and a 9 on the front any suggestions on what I will need to network these units and any extra add on? shut up and fish shot me a pm on prices please and thanks for any advice guys I am new to lowrance units as I have been running birds for some time now.
Posted By: archersfin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/14 04:05 AM

Has anyone had a problem with the touch screen on an HDS unit? I have to put pressure on the power cable either up or down to get the screen to work properly. I have tried 3 different cables and all the same. As long as I put a little pressure on the cable the screen works fine. Let it go and the screen will not respond to touch.
Help! If you can
P.S. I have updated the software and just got the unit Yesterday.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/14 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: pinesjunkie
Ok guys going to update my bird units and think I may give lowrance a try again after my latest up date making my units [censored],, so going with a HD12 on the back and a 9 on the front any suggestions on what I will need to network these units and any extra add on? shut up and fish shot me a pm on prices please and thanks for any advice guys I am new to lowrance units as I have been running birds for some time now.

Brad you are going to love the new units!! I would just use an Ethernet cable between the two units UNLESS you plan to add the Point 1 antenna. The Point 1 requires NMEA 2000 and if you are going that way you might as well go all NMEA 2000.
And if you are thinking of the new Spotlite transducer, you'll also need NMEA 2000
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/14 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: archersfin
Has anyone had a problem with the touch screen on an HDS unit? I have to put pressure on the power cable either up or down to get the screen to work properly. I have tried 3 different cables and all the same. As long as I put a little pressure on the cable the screen works fine. Let it go and the screen will not respond to touch.
Help! If you can
P.S. I have updated the software and just got the unit Yesterday.


Can't really comment on your unit, mine has been trouble free and I love it! Sounds to me like your problem may be internal to the Touch and not a software problem from your upgrade. I'd call customer service.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/28/14 02:02 PM

Archer, did you do a screen calibration? Try that first and if it doesn't work either take it back or send it in.
Posted By: pinesjunkie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/02/14 12:59 PM

Thanks for the advice!
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/03/14 02:14 PM

I suspose most of you guys got notification from Lowrance that the Spotlight and Sonichubs are now shipping and there is now a new software update available for download with the software to operate the new options.
I know, I'm sure excited about getting the Spotlock for my boat soon!
Posted By: NoHeart2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/03/14 06:16 PM

Can you share way points through the Ethernet on the HDS units or do you have to use NEMA?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/03/14 08:39 PM

Yes full waypoint sharing is available through the Ethernet cable
Posted By: NoHeart2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/03/14 09:52 PM

Other then using the gauge features on the HDS what other advantages is there to NEMA? I'm not worried about Hub or Radar.
Posted By: Mebo31

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/14 02:55 AM

trying to check for an update on my new hds 7 but the Lowrance website is temporary down. anyone else trying to get on to their website?
edit- finally got it updated
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/14 10:28 AM

Originally Posted By: NoHeart2
Other then using the gauge features on the HDS what other advantages is there to NEMA? I'm not worried about Hub or Radar.


If you want to use the Point 1 GPS external puck, you have to use NMEA 2000 and you'll also need it for the new Spotlight transducer.
Posted By: Palestino

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/14 06:49 PM

HDS 12 Touch problem. Unit about 2 months old. Sonar just quits working sometimes. If structure is up with sonar that quits working also. If map is up that continues to work. Any ideas? I can usually get it to start working again by doing a restore factory defaults. Sometimes it works for a while without going off but always goes off at some point. Screens just go blank.

Appreciate any help.

Tim
Posted By: Diel11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/14 09:02 PM

Mine would lose bottom so on DI it would turn all blue and white and say depth was 2ft. Would reboot and sometimes it would come back, sometimes not. Sent it in and Lowrance tested it, ended up failing. They sent me a new one. Call them up and at least start an incident report and see what happens.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/14 02:15 PM

Ordered the Spotlight transducer yesterday and it shows to ship early next week!
Sure hope it performs as advertised!
Anyone else have one yet to give us a review?
Posted By: ez_4_u00

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/14 05:50 PM

When hooking up the nema 2000 to the point one do youalso hook the nema to a power source, or just to the graph?

I am confused how the nema works.

I have a hds 2-10"(con) and a hds 2-8" (bow). They are currntly connected through either net cable to my LSS-1. I want to install a point 1 to the 10" and the 8" t(wo seperate point-1's). Do i need to connect both to the nema and link all together or just connect one to each graph.
Posted By: Diel11

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/14 11:47 PM

The NMEA starter kit comes with a power cable. You have to provide 12v to the network. Then connect each unit to the NMEA network and the Point 1 to the network also.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/14 11:51 PM

Okie, don't you use a Terrova? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
Posted By: archersfin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/14 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: archersfin
Has anyone had a problem with the touch screen on an HDS unit? I have to put pressure on the power cable either up or down to get the screen to work properly. I have tried 3 different cables and all the same. As long as I put a little pressure on the cable the screen works fine. Let it go and the screen will not respond to touch.
Help! If you can
P.S. I have updated the software and just got the unit Yesterday.

UPDATE ON PROBLEM
The problem was low voltage, if the unit goes below 11v it will start acting up. Charged the battery and works fine now.
Posted By: archersfin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/14 03:55 AM

Now a question for the guru's. I have an older x-510c that I would like to network to the new HDS 12. I tried just plugging in the ethernet cable to both units and the 12 does not see the 510c. Not sure how to make them talk to each other. 510 is just a sonar not a GPS unit. They both have the yellow ethernet connector on the rear so I thought they would talk by just plugging them in.
Any suggestions?
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/14 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Okie, don't you use a Terrova? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?


I used to have a Terrova and I used to have HB's on my boat. But, I saw the light, changed to all Lowrance and bought a new Fortrex and now my boat is perfect!!!

Started with Lowrance, lost my mind for awhile and converted to HB, didn't care for the dark side so switched back to Lowrance. And, no, I don't recommend this route and yes, it was dang expensive!!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/14 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Okie, don't you use a Terrova? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?


I used to have a Terrova and I used to have HB's on my boat. But, I saw the light, changed to all Lowrance and bought a new Fortrex and now my boat is perfect!!!

Started with Lowrance, lost my mind for awhile and converted to HB, didn't care for the dark side so switched back to Lowrance. And, no, I don't recommend this route and yes, it was dang expensive!!



Alright bud, just making sure you weren't buying something that wouldn't work with the Terrova. Just looking out for ya'. cheers
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/14 07:58 PM

Appreciate it G-S, u 'da man!
Posted By: awdieee

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/14 11:27 AM

I am considering getting a touch unit but how well does the touch screen respond to wet fingers? TIA
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/14 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: awdieee
I am considering getting a touch unit but how well does the touch screen respond to wet fingers? TIA


I can't say I've ever used mine with wet fingers. But I guess if it were raining it'd be unavoidable?
Posted By: awdieee

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/07/14 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: awdieee
I am considering getting a touch unit but how well does the touch screen respond to wet fingers? TIA


I can't say I've ever used mine with wet fingers. But I guess if it were raining it'd be unavoidable?


Reason I ask is because this will be mounted on my kayak. laugh
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/14 12:32 AM


Originally Posted By: awdieee
I am considering getting a touch unit but how well does the touch screen respond to wet fingers? TIA


I received your PM awdieee. I am hit and miss this weekend. Hold off and talk with me before you by. You will be glad you did. I will try and reach out to you sometime tomorrow.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/14 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: awdieee
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: awdieee
I am considering getting a touch unit but how well does the touch screen respond to wet fingers? TIA


I can't say I've ever used mine with wet fingers. But I guess if it were raining it'd be unavoidable?


Reason I ask is because this will be mounted on my kayak. laugh



Check out this link and you might PM him.

http://www.bbcboards.net/lowrance-image-interpretation/454754-screen-shot-creek.html
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 12:53 AM

Guys and Gals,
Interpreting the side image and downscan it appears the downscan has a slight delay in the pictures that are posted. I have noticed this in my recordings also. How much overlap is there between the sidescan picture and the downscan? I understand folding the paper shows the angles,but it appears the sidescan bottom appears right at the edge of the cone angle for the downscan. What the sidescan does allow, is it immediately allows an angler to tell which side underneath the boat fish are on in the downscan picture. Are my observations correct?
Originally Posted By: hookinbass
is this bass or what? I'm new to this structure scan
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 01:08 AM

Hookinbass,

I am new to this new sonar too. I believe the 1st and 4th screenshoot look like bass to me scattered along the bottom. The 3rd screenshot looks like baitfish on the top with larger fish underneath. It could be black bass or sandbass. But closer to the bottom under the baitfish ball it looks like crappie to me because they are closer together. Just my newbie opinion.

Everyone says to look for the white dots on the side scan and fish will provide a small shadow. I do not see this on your screenshots. I wonder if this was at 855khz if it would be clearer.

Someone with more experience hopefully will chime in.

Chris

Originally Posted By: hookinbass
is this bass or what? I'm new to this structure scan
Posted By: formula462

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 01:33 AM

Couldn't find answer in search, what does it mean when the unit blinks on and off awhile then shuts off? When first turn on it does ok for about 10mins then starts blinking/shuts off.
Its a brand new mark4 dsi and deer feeder 12v battery, could it just be a low battery
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 01:41 AM

Formula462,

I remember someone saying on another forum or youtube video that if the voltage drops below 11.7 volts the units will shut down or blink on or off. I would bet your battery is about ready to be replaced. What is your voltage output?
Posted By: formula462

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 02:12 AM

Originally Posted By: CB327
Formula462,

I remember someone saying on another forum or youtube video that if the voltage drops below 11.7 volts the units will shut down or blink on or off. I would bet your battery is about ready to be replaced. What is your voltage output?

Well I didnt check it, its new and first time to have been hooked up so I guess I should start with that, making sure its charged. I thought the ffers could run on 8v?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/14 03:16 AM

The timing looks the exact same to me, I think your just not looking close enough at the distance. The volts will cut off at 10 volts but I had problems when I hit 11v and my wiring was undersized, fix your problem before you burn of the graph to low power.
Posted By: Chet

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 02:23 AM

I just trying to make my way through this thread and you guys are so far ahead of me my head is busting. I have a real easy question. Just bought a boat with an HDS5 in the console, and I just got my HDS8 installed, can I move the HDS5 to the bow and use a Ethernet cable to the structure scan box and share with the HDS8?

Also does it need to be a Gen2 and if so how do I tell, it just says HDS5 on the front.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 02:29 AM

Chet, yes use an Ethernet cable and all info will share. Even a few of the older models will share info with a HDS. Doesn't matter what gen it is. You will know if it's a gen 2 because it will be written on the outside of the case and it will be a dark grey (almost black). The gen 1's are regular grey.
Posted By: Chet

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 02:31 AM

Thanks, it must be a Gen 1.
Posted By: Chet

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 03:40 AM

One last question, will it be using the HDS8's transducer/black box and not needing it's own? Thanks
Posted By: jcarring99

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 05:07 AM

I went over a sand bar the other day and was barely able to get off it. The bottom of my boat drug bottom. Ever since then my hds10 gen2 doesn't seem to read right. It looks as though there's a lot of prop wash and the DI doesn't seem to be as clear as before and it shows the bottom to be almost white instead of a darker color like before. It seems to be cloudy. The side scan seems to work ok although it doesn't show fish or bait fish like it used to and it shows what seems to be a lot of prop wash. I inspected, cleaned and adjusted the transducer. Nothing seems to be wrong. What could I have done?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/14 10:23 PM

Chet, you can attach up to 3 graphs to a 1 LSS black box. The info on the bow will be from the back of the boat but it's still usable info, I ran my boat like that for a year.


Coach JC, I've read your post over at BBC too and I can't figure out what would cause the problem you are having. It just doesn't make sense.
Posted By: jcarring99

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/14 01:34 AM

I've been reading some that in shallow water DI doesn't work very well?

Obviously I was in shallow water and may have just noticed how bad it was after that and got paranoid. I thought it may have had some mud on it biput it's clean and doesn't appear to be any damage what so ever. The transducer is mounted slightly above the bottom of my boat. I font think it touched it other than maybe changing the angle of it and then I really changed it when I pulled it up to inspect it and clean it. I adjusted the angle of it trying to compensate for bow lift
Posted By: pugman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/23/14 06:39 PM

I have a HDS 8 and was fishing on Lake Tyler, but when charting it was showing Lake Palestine, why would that be? I have South Nav chip
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/23/14 09:17 PM

Pug, was the cursor moving or was it stationary?
Posted By: pugman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/23/14 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Pug, was the cursor moving or was it stationary?


stationary
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/14 12:04 AM

Next time press the "exit" button one time. Anytime you happen to move the crosshairs you will have to press "exit" to get the graph back to the screen that moves. I'm not sure why it would have been on another lake unless you might have moved it last time out or maybe you were at that lake last trip out. Anyways, exit button should take care of that.
Posted By: pugman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/14 12:57 AM

I will check that also, grout. Thanks and the last place that I used the chart was at that spot on Ledbetter (Palestine)
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/14 02:09 AM

Yep then that was the problem, the exit button has gotten just about all of us in the beginning. I was cussing my graph because I thought it was broken, lol.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/14 02:11 PM

Anybody received their 'spotlight' transducer yet? I'm still waiting and David says 4-7 is the date he has right now.
Anxious to read what you guys think about it.
Posted By: Kicked Duck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/14 07:55 PM

Just got a new touch 9 w/insight. want to make sure I hook it up right, the power wire going to the battery has a yellow wire with it. do I need to run it to accessory + or - switch or can I leave it taped up for now? This is all I have for now, another brand is up front.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/14 10:09 PM



Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Anybody received their 'spotlight' transducer yet? I'm still waiting and David says 4-7 is the date he has right now.
Anxious to read what you guys think about it.


Taking a break from my vacation break OkieBob,

Throwing a tease out to you Bob....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7r2ufRrKqBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mMmi4zwGJ3g

Posted from another forum....

Posted March 14 2014 - 10:50 AM
I know some guys have said its almost an art to get a good scan cause you have to be so slow and steady to get a good scan but the guys that are getting the hang of it are putting some beautiful pictures up. One guy captured a school of fish just off the bottom right in front of his boat. Was cool to look at.



I have another ETA showing 3/31/2014

David @ shut-up-and-fish.com
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/14 10:35 PM

I've see a few good pics and a few dogs of pics from the spotlight. Need a real smooth trolling motor and a slow spin.
Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 02:31 AM

It seems to me like there is not much information provided on lowrance or videos on youtube about the Elite 5x DSI. Now, I know there are far better products than this one with much newer and better technology available nowadays but being that I am a college student and working a minimum wage job, I got myself that one about a year ago. I have not had time to be out on the water much but the few times that I have used it, I don't really know if understand my readings. I have never had any type of fishfinders before other than an old traditional 2D sonar that came already in my boat, I would use it only to see the depth and determine what the lake bottom was like. Now that I have this somewhat newer Lowrance unit, I really wish to better understand it and know how to use it. I have heard that the information on the far right side is the most recent info, but that does not mean anything to me as I am still confused as to why the screen is even moving from right to left when I am anchored. Like I said, there is hardly any info out there which I have found to be very useful. Maybe some of you can explain to me the basics. I will upload a few pics so that maybe one of you fellas that know these things better than I do can explain to me what it was that appeared on my screen during that particular time.

Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 02:33 AM

Yes pics.
Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 02:54 AM









Was I even looking at something there? Could those images have possibly been false information or false readings? I mean it seems to me as if I installed the transducer properly, it looks to be straight and pretty tight. By the way, its on the trolling motor. Any ideas???



Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 03:20 AM

I'll be honest, I haven't used that graph or seen 1 in person but those are fish or should at least be fish. Some could be brush & such but any single line should be fish. The only thing I wonder about is the shallow depths, you'd think fish would have spooked off. I'll post some more fish pics for you.



Top right window. Fish...



Bottom right window is what fish look like while sitting still. They just leave a straight line on the graph until you or they move.




This pic is a school of white bass. Lots of them.

Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 04:04 AM

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Regarding the pictures I posted, it makes sense to think that there might have been some brush or that the fish might have been spooked. I was idling over and through an area with flooded brush, this was about a year ago on Falcon Lake when the water had risen.


Once again thanks for sharing this.





Anyone else who would like to add something, I would greatly appreciate it…




Thanks
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/14 09:08 AM

Serg, I think a basic understanding of how radar/sonar works is helpful in understanding what you are looking at on your 7 screen.
All your 7 does is shoot a signal out from the transducer and receive back reflections of what that signal hits and reflects back. This is happening thousands of times per second and each signal (shot) only lasts a few microseconds. The 7 then converts what it receives from the transducer to a video image of what it saw. That is why your screen seems to move from right to left. If you understand what I'm trying to say you'll be able to use that info in determining what you are looking at.
The shots you posted are good examples but, can be confusing. You need to remember where you are when looking at the screen. Here you were in 5 to 7 feet of water and you stated you were in a lot of brush. Remember how fast the screen is updating and what the returns are. You also said you were sitting still. A fish moving (in any direction) will be hit by the sonar signal and a portion of the signal reflected back to the transducer. If it is doing this many times per second, it might look like a straight line on the screen when in fact it is a fish moving in relation to the transducer. If it were sitting still it would be more of a large dot.
I could go on for hours and bore you to death but, hope this helps.
Posted By: ChrisTexan

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/27/14 12:51 PM

Kicked duck - the manual has the info on that, the yellow is the remote turn-on wire for an accessory that you only want on when the sonar is on.
Posted By: DCB1977

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/14 01:31 AM

I have an Elite 7X-HDI, are there some basic setting that I can adjust to get a better picture, and can anyone tell me what they are? Or is this one of those where it depends on Depth and so on? ANY and ALL help would be great as I have never used a graph before. I do have the basic knowledge of how sonar works, but I have played with as many settings I can find and end up just taking back to factory. I mostly fish in less than 20 fow if that helps.

Thanks
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/07/14 02:06 AM

This is a screen shot of brushpile from this weekend. The pile appeared to have fish all over it, but I did not get a bite. I lost several lures on this trying to catch a fish. What do you think?

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/07/14 12:11 PM

I don't see any fish on it. Could be something but, I don't see it. I would not have stopped.
Would definitely marked it for another time.
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/14 01:08 AM

Okie,

In the structurescan photo top right it appears to me that the white dots mixed in the structure are fish. What do you not see in the screenshots that would have made you stop and fish the structure. Obviously with the new technology I must be over analyzing what I am seeing.

Thanks for the feedback.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/14 02:32 AM

I also question what you are calling fish. They maybe or they may not be, turn off the structure scan overlay on the 2d sonar and it will tell you more.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/14 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
I also question what you are calling fish. They maybe or they may not be, turn off the structure scan overlay on the 2d sonar and it will tell you more.

Agree, I don't use overlay and can tell more without it. Fish typically mark much more pronounced than the blur you are seeing. Fish would likely produce a larger dot in and out of the brushpiles, some above, some beside. It looks to me like you are seeing part of the bursh, maybe leaves? Not fish. I suggest you look at other screen shots in various sections on this forum that truly show fish. It's a learning experience and one that takes time on the water. Good luck, you are off to a great start,.
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/14 01:54 AM

Guys,

Can you explain where the settings are for the structure scan overlay ? I have not found this feature where it toggles from on to off. I have an HDS10 gen 2 unit.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/14 03:25 AM

Been awhile since I've turned mine on but I think if you put the orange box on your sonar box then hit menu, it should have "overlays" or something to that extent. Go into the overlay menu and unselect structure.


If that is wrong maybe Okie will set me straight. (I haven't used my graph in several months.)
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/14 10:10 AM

Yep, pretty sure you remember correctly GS. Or it may be one more step, the pull down menu from the same screen.
Got some exciting news, my 'spotlight' is in transit and I'll have it in my hot hands by Friday evening!!!! I plan to take it out for a test run next Monday and I'll report back!
I'm excited!!!!
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/09/14 08:00 PM

I do not see fish either; nice brush pile on a hump,,,,,but no fish holding on it.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/11/14 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Yep, pretty sure you remember correctly GS. Or it may be one more step, the pull down menu from the same screen.
Got some exciting news, my 'spotlight' is in transit and I'll have it in my hot hands by Friday evening!!!! I plan to take it out for a test run next Monday and I'll report back!
I'm excited!!!!


Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/14 01:18 AM

I think I found the overlay setting and turned it off. Using the demo this removes the structure scan moving image from the chart if I turned off the correct setting. Does this increase the sensitivity in the actual structure scan windows to make clear images?
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/14 11:50 AM

Found a surprise package on my porch yesterday afternoon!

I now have the 'spotlight' in my greedy little hands. Hope to get it installed
this weekend and on the water early next week. I'll be posting pics as soon as possible.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 03:28 AM

I just installed my new HDS 7 Gen 2 in my boat. The structure scan for some reason has a bunch of lines in the water column, just on the right side. Anybody know how to fix this?
Posted By: Skeeter14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 04:13 AM

Transducer is getting interference from motor, jack plate, or something else on the back of the boat. Basically the signal is bouncing off something on the right side. You may have to look at where you mounted it. Lots of info on BBC on this topic.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 10:52 AM

It's mounted on the drivers side of the boat, on my jack plate. So the only thing that would be blocking it would be the boat hull.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 10:53 AM

I'll check out BBC Skeeter. Thanks for the help.
Posted By: Skeeter14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 11:19 AM

Sounds like the hull is the problem. Had the same issue on my Skeeter with the sponsons on the hull that stick out. There is a bracket kit that is sold by Transducer Shield and Saver for mounting the ducer on the jack plate that extends it down a little further. I bought one and it helped clear up this problem with mine.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 11:39 AM

It's mounted on one of their brackets now. So they have another bracket that makes it extend down more? If so cool!!!
Posted By: Skeeter14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 02:00 PM

They make an extension that drops it down further away from the Jack plate.
Posted By: Skeeter14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 02:04 PM

You can get one of the extensions listed here. Either 1.5 inches or 2 inches.

https://www.transducershieldandsaver.com/home/l-brackets
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/14 03:45 PM

Ok thanks Skeeter
Posted By: skins84

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/15/14 01:14 AM

Can I link a HDS unit to a Elite 7 to share waypoints? The search button worked I found the answer. Thanks
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/16/14 10:29 AM




Got the spotlight installed and just pulled out of the dock to check that all was working as I made some mods to my wiring and relocated my 9Touch on the bow.
First two shots with the spotlight on a brushpile just 100' or so from the dock.

It looks like I have a long learning period ahead to understand and get spotlight to do what it is supposed to do. I'll be on the water anyway so I have plenty of time. So far, I'm underwhelmed but, believe I'll be happy with it eventually.
Any help or advise will be appreciated as well as questions if I can help anyone.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/17/14 12:24 AM

Okie, how tight is your troller? Does it have any slop at all in it? On another site (BBC) someone had to install a trolleze or comfortroll or something like that and then their images improved immensely. They also said it takes about 30-45 second per sweep.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/17/14 10:39 AM

Grout, I don't have any slop in my tm that I can detect. In fact, it might be better if I did. The slightest pressure on the foot control produces a refresh right around each side of the 'v'.

I also believe I've found a bug in the system. When I touch 'range rings' it reboots my system! I tried it twice and it did it both times. I'll try again next time out and report it to Lowrance if it continues.

I also had an installation problem. The MK pics and installation guideline is very poor.
The pics of the MK are NOT like my Fortrex and installation is different. I was able to figure it out but, the sensor is held in place with double sided tape the sensor came with and I'm not convinced this is going to last long term. They include a metal mounting plate and it shows in the MK pic but, there is no way to attach it and the screw and lock nut won't work as they are not recessed and won't allow the plate to lie flat.
Anyway, it's working.
I'll try to post more as I learn more. As usual I'm disappointed with the information supplied by Lowrance. I want to know exactly how this system works and why so I don't have to learn by trial and error and never know for certain what I'm doing!
I think they give us poor dumb fishermen too much credit!
Posted By: DCB1977

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/19/14 05:24 PM

I have an Elite 7X-HDI, are there some basic setting that I can adjust to get a better picture, and can anyone tell me what they are? Or is this one of those where it depends on Depth and so on? ANY and ALL help would be great as I have never used a graph before. I do have the basic knowledge of how sonar works, but I have played with as many settings I can find and end up just taking back to factory. I mostly fish in less than 20 fow if that helps.

Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/19/14 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: DCB1977
I have an Elite 7X-HDI, are there some basic setting that I can adjust to get a better picture, and can anyone tell me what they are? Or is this one of those where it depends on Depth and so on? ANY and ALL help would be great as I have never used a graph before. I do have the basic knowledge of how sonar works, but I have played with as many settings I can find and end up just taking back to factory. I mostly fish in less than 20 fow if that helps.

Thanks



Can you post a pic so we can see if it looks bad? I have never used the HDI but I can tell you if it's good or bad.

Check out this thread, some real nice pics and it shows what it's capable of.

http://www.bbcboards.net/lowrance-image-interpretation/476156-elite-7-hdi.html
Posted By: 10lberfork

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/01/14 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob



Got the spotlight installed and just pulled out of the dock to check that all was working as I made some mods to my wiring and relocated my 9Touch on the bow.
First two shots with the spotlight on a brushpile just 100' or so from the dock.

It looks like I have a long learning period ahead to understand and get spotlight to do what it is supposed to do. I'll be on the water anyway so I have plenty of time. So far, I'm underwhelmed but, believe I'll be happy with it eventually.
Any help or advise will be appreciated as well as questions if I can help anyone.
ok okie im very interested in this hds touch 9 with spot lock i want to here more and se more pics before i pull the trigger on new graph in june
Posted By: lenahorse

Re: 1st sreen shots - 05/01/14 08:29 PM



Few minutes later



Last week at Tawakoni all hybrids
Posted By: RCarter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/02/14 11:03 PM

When is Lowrance finally going to offer Lake Level Offset in an HDS upgrade?

Isn't it about time..........
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/14 01:56 AM

RC, I think Lakemaster might have a patent pending on that feature.
Posted By: RCarter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/14 02:33 AM

GS, you could be correct but here is what Lowrance told me a few weeks ago:

Thank you for your inquiry.

Ron,

Unfortunately, we currently don't have the lake level adjustment, but it could be offered in a future software update.



Thank you for choosing Navico products!

Navico Technical Support





Navico Inc.
Lowrance website: http://www.lowrance.com

Accessories website: http://store.navico.com
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/14 03:38 AM

I hope they do it too, sure would make it easier with our lakes constantly low water. I tried to find the post where I thought I read about the patent thing but I'm having a hard time recalling where I saw it.
Posted By: RCarter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/14 02:17 PM

Yeah, think it's way overdue.....if we could get enough Lowrance users to submit requests for it to their Tech Support I think we could probably get it done....
Posted By: Bernie Lee

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/03/14 02:56 PM

I think if everyone would call or e-mail Lowrance that we want the lake leavel adjustment they might get it out a lot sooner.
I will call on Mon. so lets get the ball rolling!
Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/04/14 02:17 PM

I'm trying to figure out which lowrance to get. There are so many kinds its confusing. I see elite 7 hdi, elite 7x, elite 7 broadband combo, hds 8 gen 2 (which as a 300 dollar rebate). What I am wanting is sonar, downscan, gps, chartplotter( trail marker). All elites seem to have a 100 dollar rebate.

Which one of these bugars do I want?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/04/14 04:06 PM

If you don't want sidscan then an elite 7 HDI (with chirp, if possible) will work. Call one of the sponsors here and they will help you.
Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/04/14 08:34 PM

I saw where a lowrance hds8 gen 2 costs 1150 with a 300 rebate. Another hds6 costs 850 with a 300 rebate but I'm not sure what it does.Does it have sidescan and down scan both? If it does can you use one of them at a time or do you use both at the same time ?

how do these compare with a elite 7 hdi?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 03:04 AM

Ok, lots to type here: you have 2 options with the HDS series. Option 1 is the push button gen 2 models and these require a LSS (Lowrance structure scan) black box module and a lss2 transducer to have SI & DI (side imaging & down imaging). So add about $500 to the price.

Option 2 is the Touch models, these have the LSS built in but you will still need the lss2 transducer. You will also have to a 2d sonar transducer with both of the two options above. The lss2 ducer is around $300 (I think).

Now this is where it can get confusing, with the Touch graph you can buy the HDI transducer and it will give you sonar & DI built into 1 transducer. (This HDI transducer won't do the same thing on the push button gen 2 models so it's not an option with them.)

Yes the LSS system will give DI & SI if you buy the lss2 transducer and you can have both DI & SI on or off. It's fully customizable to however you want to view it. The HDI is sonar & DI only.


The differences? HDS has a 2 year warranty and more custom options, obviously it cost quite a bit more.
The HDI is a decent graph at a pretty good price but it only has a 1 year warranty.


Pick a budget and go from there. If you don't want to spend $1500 then that will knock out a lot of options.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 09:39 AM

Your selection also depends on what you plan to fish for as well.
I only fish crappie so my needs are different from bass guys or maybe catfish guys.

For crappie fishing you need SI and DI and a good GPS, at the very least. Good 2D sonar is nice but, I could live without it if I had the other options.

For bass, I'm thinking DI might not be as important as SI? GPS, maybe as well as 2D, you'd have to talk to one of them to get better info.

As for me, the 9 Touch is great for what I want electronics for. First you don't need an extra box, the LSS 2 transducer connects directly to the 9 or 12 Touch but, not the smaller Touch units. The 2D skimmer transducer also connects direct.
And if you want to find waypoints easily, you also need the Point 1 GPS antenna with built in compass.

Call David at shut-up-and-fish and talk to him about your needs, he can help you out AND give you a good deal on any boat accessory you need.

Good luck!
Posted By: numbersguy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 04:19 PM

I have a problem in that my sonar has stopped working on both of my units but the GPS, down scan and side imaging still work. I have a HDS8 on the console with a HDS5 at the bow. I'm thinking the transducer may be the problem but not sure. I have checked the connections and that didn't help. The sonar will come on for a few seconds and then will just quit working at all. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to go through the trouble of replacing the transducer if its not going to solve the problem.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 09:12 PM

Numbers, so you only have a transom mounted transducer? You don't have one on the trolling motor?
Posted By: numbersguy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 10:11 PM

Yes the trolling motor has a transducer built into it.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/14 10:30 PM

So you are saying both transducers quit reading? Do you by chance have the "network" option turned on?
Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 01:58 AM

Well, I bought a elite 7 combo with a 83/200 and 455/800 transducer. I hope I got the right unit for gps,sonar,DI
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: snowyriver2
Well, I bought a elite 7 combo with a 83/200 and 455/800 transducer. I hope I got the right unit for gps,sonar,DI


Yep thumb
Posted By: Andy_Joe

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 03:58 AM

Maybe someone can help me out here. I have a gen 2 hds 8 with a lss1 box and transducer.. my side scan seems to be working but the right side image is really dark. You can hardly tell whats showing up. I tried going to right side only and bumping up the contrast and that helped until I put it back on left and right and my left side was way to bright.. I guess my question is , are my setting wrong or is my transducer bad. I have it mounted on the right side of the jack plate . Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 12:59 PM

Well Andy_Joe, have the images always been dark ever since the install or did they just turn dark recently? If it's always been dark then I'd think maybe it's not low enough. If it's below the jackplate and dark then you are probably loosing the right side crystals. Try a soft reset, make sure it's below the jackplate and if it's still dark on that side I'd assume it's going out.
Posted By: Andy_Joe

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 02:20 PM

Thanks for the info I also think that maybe the motor trimmed all the way Down May interfere with it .. how do i swap side on my side scan . Say if what's on the left shows up in the right of my screen .. also how do I do a soft reset?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/14 10:31 PM

There is a flip right & left option, I can't tell you exactly where it is, it's been awhile since I had to change mine. Should be in the structure scan menu though. Do a google search on soft rest, don't do the hard because you will loose your wypts. It's something with the power button and another maybe pages but I won't swear to it, been along time since I've had to do one of those too. I'm not much help for you, lol
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/07/14 11:12 AM

SPOTLIGHT update.

I now have several hours under my belt with the 'spotlight' transducer and I have to report that I don't care much for it.
The problem is that you have to continually rotate your trolling motor to get any display. I didn't realize this when I bought it and it is a deal killer for me.
I was hoping that with experience, it would be a great addition to my electronics. So far, that is not the case.
Here is an example of what I'm talking about:
The way I fish for crappie is primarily done by locating brushpiles, marking them with a waypoint, throwing out a marker buoy and jigging vertically while holding the boat in position with my trolling motor.
If I'm approaching one of my waypoints with the 9Touch, I have a three panel display up with the chart (showing the waypoint), down imaging and spotlight.
As I approach the waypoint I'm trying to see it before I arrive at it with spotlight but, in doing so, I have to continurally rotate the tm to get the spotlight display. Well, even if I take my foot off the motor control button and then rotate, slowly, the tm, I have a real difficult time getting into position.
When you factor in current, wind, waves, etc, these things are just too distracting to keep any concentration on actually fishing.
IF spotlight would give me a display without turning the tm constantly, my disappointment would go away! I am able to get some really great screen shots with spotlight and MAYBE I'll grow to be able to use it successfully.
Questions?
Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/14 03:38 AM

thats the way I fish too. I just bought a elite 7 hdi so 'm going to have to start over with trails and waypoints. And also learning how to use it
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/10/14 11:01 AM

Originally Posted By: snowyriver2
thats the way I fish too. I just bought a elite 7 hdi so 'm going to have to start over with trails and waypoints. And also learning how to use it


Snowyriver, you should be able to transfer your waypoints and trails to your new Elite 7. When I bought mine it was a simple process and then when I moved up to the Touch it was simple as well.
Posted By: Abel1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/14 01:13 PM

LCX-38chd & Navionics Hotmaps premium.

I am having issues with using the Navionics Hotmaps premium on my LCX38.
I have updated the Software version from Lowrance web site.
The graph sees the card but it shows (no format).
It also weird's out with the card in , it gives a high pitch beep and locks up.

I know its a older graph, just wondering if any one ran across this same issue .
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/14 10:55 AM

Over the weekend, my new 9Touch with spotlight began acting up.
The down imageing and/or the spotlight panels would stop....just quit moving across the screen....GPS and 2D were still working fine. And then they would start moving again without me doing anything. It repeated this off and on all day. Maybe a few seconds and maybe a minute or two.
Second problem, when moving the trolling motor the 'v' doesn't move. I checked the roller under the foot control and it seems to be in position and if I lift the roller with my finger it moves the 'v' on the screen. I'm thinking it has to be
a problem with the install of the roller ball and feel sure I can fix it.
Also wonder if somehow these two issues could be related? I don't see how as the DI has nothing to do with spotlight except they share the same transducer housing.

Was wondering if any of you gurus have heard of this or is it unique to me? I do plan to call the factory later this morning.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/14 12:55 PM

Okie, my guess was the nmea foot pedal sensor too. Have you jumped up to the 3.0 update yet? Not sure the update is the problem but you never know. You have surpassed the horizons for any information I might be able to help with. I will not be joining into the spotlight club due to having a non compatable trolling motor. Let us know what Lowrance says to do, my guess is they'll say to soft reset and try it again.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/19/14 03:49 PM

Scout, I just this morning learned there is a sw update. I'll try that first and then call the factory if it doesn't help.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/14 04:32 AM

How do I get my chart to move with my position? Right now the arrow moves by itself and comes off the chart when I troll then I have a hard time finding where I'm at again. This is on a Elite 5 model.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/14 12:54 PM

Newbie, I haven't used the elite series but it might be like the HDS series. Try pushing the exit button 1 time when that happens, it should take you back to your navigate screen instead of the crosshairs screen that you are referring to.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/14 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Newbie, I haven't used the elite series but it might be like the HDS series. Try pushing the exit button 1 time when that happens, it should take you back to your navigate screen instead of the crosshairs screen that you are referring to.


I don't have an exit button but I think I can figure out how to get rid if cursor if that's what does it.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/20/14 08:35 PM

Can you guys help me discern these images on my Elite 5? This is my first time ever with a fish finder and my only knowledge about them is from reading these threads and watching Youtube vids. Also the color pallette seems unatural to me on Lowrance. Yellow is hard return red is soft. It seems more natural the other way around. Also feel free to give any advice on settings, etc...

#1. This one is obvious even to me that there are 4 fish (3 big ones???) but why is one mostly green and the other yellow and red? Also is it normal to get surface clutter all the way down to 40 ft?




#2. The only thing I think I'm sure of here is that big arch right to the left of the green blob is a big fish??? What does all the other stuff mean? Clutter? Bait fish everywhere? What does the green mean?



#3. Are those trees? Even though not connected to the bottom? What does the brown bottom with a lot of green on top mean? Hard bottom with lots of vegetation?

Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/22/14 01:45 AM

Thanks Okie. I didnt mark waypoints on my 520c but I want to make waypoints and trails on my new elite 7hdi.

Not sure how yet, I have to learn how to do that.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/27/14 05:10 AM




Really surprised that no one can give me some feedback of graphs from my Lowrance sonar on the Lowrance sonar thread.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/27/14 12:45 PM

I would help you if I could but I've never used that model and I don't have a clue what the green means. It's been asked before and nobody knew the answer then either.
Posted By: Striper Lifer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/28/14 04:09 PM

I bought a HDS-8 Combo on the clearance deal Lowrance is running and love it. I fish Texoma a lot and it isn't on their Insight Pro lake list. It seems like every mud hole in Oklahoma and Texas is on that list so I can't believe big T isn't! Anybody know first hand?

My built in maps has Texoma on it with 5' contours. I'm after 1', which would mean it's a HD lake on the v14 Pro product. I want to use the Insight Genesis program to upgrade areas I like to fish. I'm not going to map all of Lake T however!

I'd sure apprecioate it if someone let me know. You'd just have to zoom way out and move the curser over to Texoma and then zoom in and see if you get 1' countours...
Posted By: FMJshooter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/14 03:44 AM

Originally Posted By: newbiefisher
Can you guys help me discern these images on my Elite 5? This is my first time ever with a fish finder and my only knowledge about them is from reading these threads and watching Youtube vids. Also the color pallette seems unatural to me on Lowrance. Yellow is hard return red is soft. It seems more natural the other way around. Also feel free to give any advice on settings, etc...

#1. This one is obvious even to me that there are 4 fish (3 big ones???) but why is one mostly green and the other yellow and red? Also is it normal to get surface clutter all the way down to 40 ft?




#2. The only thing I think I'm sure of here is that big arch right to the left of the green blob is a big fish??? What does all the other stuff mean? Clutter? Bait fish everywhere? What does the green mean?



#3. Are those trees? Even though not connected to the bottom? What does the brown bottom with a lot of green on top mean? Hard bottom with lots of vegetation?



No expert on that unit but..
You're in the bottom tracking pallet, meaning anything brown is supposed to represent bottom red yellow green is supposed to be softer returns with green being the harder of the bunch. Lots of clutter assuming you have the correct transducer selected in the unit (check if unsure before anything else) look at your surface clarity and sensitivity settings. If surface is set to off I would try low and I would also try bumping the sensitivity down to around 60-80% whats your ping speed in pic 2 and 3? Also can try 200 KHZ instead of 83 if that doesn't clear it up you will lose some coverage but have more detail. It does look like grass in those pics but will that lake clear enough to support matted grass at 40+ feet? Has the lake level just come up recently ?
Posted By: Truck 6, Tillerman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/01/14 02:34 PM

I am looking to rig a new boat with electronics.
What would be your dream setup? What Lowrance, Humminbird units {or a mix} would you have?
Thank ypo.
Posted By: snowyriver6

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/03/14 01:39 AM

bass guys like hummingbird. catfish,crappie guys like lowrance. I like lowrance. Never has a 'bird but have been with people that have. They're both good. But the best deal moneywise now is the lowrance elite 7 hdi... 550 after rebate and haas stunning down image
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/07/14 11:15 AM

You don't mention a budget so I'm assuming you can spend what you want. IF I were to buy a new boat there is no question that I would go with Lowrance 12 Touch both bow and console! Hook them together with Ethernet AND NMEA 2000, get the Point 1 antenna and a MinnKota Fortrex trolling motor.
Actually that is exactly what I have now except I saved money going with the 9 Touches instead of the 12's but, wish I had the 12's!
And as long as we are spending your money, I'd put two 12' power poles on it for shallow brush piles and shooting docks. I'm pretty sure I could find something else to spend your money on too!
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/11/14 04:37 PM

I just purchased an HDS-10 plan on adding an hds-7 to bow later. What is the recommendation on batteries? Should I buy a battery specifically for the HDS' or upgrade my main battery to run the boat and accessories?
Posted By: DCB1977

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/11/14 09:40 PM

I have a 7X and last few time out, the Water Temp has been reading in the 30 degree range, thought maybe it was on Celcius, but that is not the case. I have had the unit about 4 months and just started this all of a sudden. Any thoughts? everything else is working fine as far as i know, just the water temp. I have it running to Main battery and not the Trolling Motor batteries.
Posted By: hookinbass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/17/14 03:50 AM



cool pic.. local lake
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/17/14 04:34 PM






http://www.lowrance.com/Global/Lowrance/...il-In_Offer.pdf



David @ shut-up-and-fish
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/18/14 09:23 PM

Issue corrected....
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/21/14 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: ifeliciano
Issue corrected....


I'm curious what the problem was???
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/14 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Originally Posted By: ifeliciano
Issue corrected....


I'm curious what the problem was???


I had an issues downloading the latest update for the HDS-10. Every time I clicked on the download link, I'd get a 404 Not Found error.

The issue was that my VPN server was blocking the download for some reason...
Posted By: cowtown

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/07/14 05:01 AM


DCB1977, some of the older Lowrance units would read 32 degrees if there is a loose or bad connection. The elite 7's use the blue connectors that twist so that normally doesn't happen. Check the connectors first.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/18/14 09:56 PM




I'm looking to upgrade to a high end fish finder and I'm having a hard time understanding how the options work. I'm looking at HDS 7 Gen 2 (either touch or otherwise) and I'm not sure which options they come with. Here are the two I'm looking at:

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lowrance_....html#multiview
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lowrance_HDS_Gen2_Touch/descpage-GTTH.html#multiview

So when Lowrance says StructureScan is it just down or side image as well? The HDS says StructureScan HD the touch does not. What's the difference? Does the touch have side scan?
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/29/14 07:46 PM

I'll attempt to explain..

in order to compare Apples to Apples, just look at these 2 units:

HDS 7 Non Touch w/ SS ( inc BOTH transducers: SS and 2D, plus the StructureScan box ) $1299

HDS 7 Touch w/ SS ( includes BOTH transducers, but the SS box isn't needed because it's 'built into" the TOUCH unit ) $1399

So, for $100 more you get TOUCH and don't have to mess with setting up the SS Box.

The other options that don't include StructureScan means they can still DO SS but the structurescan transducer is NOT included.. ie.. like adding a 2nd unit to your boat.

Hope this helps..

Jeff
Posted By: bucky94

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/14 07:51 PM

Have Gen 1 HDS 8 and HDS 7 with structure scan linked on my boat. The unit at the console not picking up structure scan, water temp and looks like a very weak signal on the regular sonar. Unit at the bow working fine. Checked the connections on the LSS unit and seems to be OK. Detached and reattached. Have switched units (i.e., tried the 8 at the bow) and whichever unit is at the console doesn't work well at all. Any idea why? Thanks.
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/14 01:26 PM

Hello guys,

New to StructureScan and need some advise. What will cause the "streak" marks on the images below?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/14 01:41 PM

Ife, it might be prop wash/turbulance.
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/06/14 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Ife, it might be prop wash/turbulance.


I have it mounted similar to this LSS x-ducer. Any ideas how to minimize prop wash/turbulence?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/07/14 02:56 AM

After seeing the pic it could be turbulance from the hull itself, there will be a lot of water movement there to contend with. How to fix it? I haven't a clue.
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/14/14 02:09 AM

Looks like you have a Ranger Boat Ive gout mine mounted to the right of where you have yours mounted and I get a nice picture. I don't have that bracket that you have mounted mine to the hull. Im sure that you also know that you have to go into your settings and flip your transducer's left to right.
Posted By: ifeliciano

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/14 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: big fish2
Looks like you have a Ranger Boat Ive gout mine mounted to the right of where you have yours mounted and I get a nice picture. I don't have that bracket that you have mounted mine to the hull. Im sure that you also know that you have to go into your settings and flip your transducer's left to right.


big fish2, that is not my boat, but I did a similar install. I do have the Left/Right graph setting switched also. Thanks for that tip..

I did some adjustments, but need to find time to get on the water and check. With a bathroom and bedroom remodel, work and family activities I've barely had time to take my boat out...
Posted By: BassBucknBeer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/25/14 10:51 PM

Looks like you were turning? Look the image was blurred all the way to the bottom. I get this when I'm turning.
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/26/14 03:28 AM

Why do you have to flip transducers left to right?
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/14 03:44 AM

Because the transducer is reversed
Posted By: Hookset Brother- Martin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/14 05:53 AM

I have a hds 5 gen 2 with ss and sonar and ss dont seem to look right. Whats a good setting for this unit to start off with?
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/14 01:07 AM

Can you explain what you mean about it not looking right ?
Posted By: Hookset Brother- Martin

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/02/14 05:50 AM

It seams to be to cluttered and I don't see pictures like the ones posted on here.
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/03/14 03:13 AM

Looking for a new FF for the yak. Any difference in these two besides the screen size?
http://lr.factoryoutletstore.com/details/88541/lowrance-elite-4-hdi-83-200.html?category_id=35370
http://lr.factoryoutletstore.com/details...tegory_id=35371
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/04/14 01:04 PM

Is structure scan also side scan ?
is the structure scan worth the money ?
I was with a guide last week and he never used the side scan......
??????
I have an HDI7 now and want to move it to the bow and put a better unit on the console.
suggestions ?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/04/14 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Nutman
Is structure scan also side scan ?
is the structure scan worth the money ?
I was with a guide last week and he never used the side scan......
??????
I have an HDI7 now and want to move it to the bow and put a better unit on the console.
suggestions ?


Yes structurescan is side/down image. The guide you were with already knew where his fishing spots are per a waypoint he marked when locating the structure. He used the structurescan at that time to find his fishing spots. .
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/04/14 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: BKT


Screen size and layout.
Posted By: LOP Guide Bret McLendon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/14/14 02:51 AM

Still working on dialing in my hds 7 gen 2 touch. Yeah it's just a picture with my phone. I don't know how to screen shot nor have a card. Lol

Trying to figure out these fish. Targeting bass but everything I find that looks good I can't seem to catch one to make a conclusion.

This is about the best color and arch I've been able to get.

Thoughts? Thanks





Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/18/14 03:32 AM

Is that a road bed on Fork ?
Posted By: LOP Guide Bret McLendon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/18/14 08:25 PM

Yup
Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/24/14 03:10 AM

When it comes to identifying fish on a graph I am not the best, however it does seem like I was able to graph some schooling fish. Can anyone confirm this with me, and if so, do the sizes of the schools indicate that these are big fish or small fish???





I was targeting bass so can we infer I was on the right track?
On the picture where it looks like there is a school of fish chasing another school, I was able to catch bass that day. I also made an observation that bass were eating shad and striking them up at the surface so I feel that specific picture does appear to be a school of bass after baitfish. But again, I am not the best at this and was looking for other opinions…



Thanks
Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/14 04:28 PM

Anyone
Posted By: Coolshot

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/26/14 01:51 AM

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/pr...hy&i=778638
Gander mountain has the elite4 with lake insite map for 299!!
Posted By: serg1001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/14 04:14 AM

to the top
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/03/14 02:18 PM

My HB unit is not reading good mounted to my jack plate
I am going to a Lowrance Elite 7
Where is the best place to mount the transducer on a Skeeter ZX 185
Transom or Jackplate
Not an SI unit.
Any help appreciated
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/14 04:20 AM

Nutman, if it's the down image unit then you can put it on the jackplate but you won't get high speed sonar readings. So if you want to be able to see the depth on the sonar while on plane then you will need it on the transom. I personally prefer to use a "shoot thru the hull" transducer but I don't think you have that option.
Posted By: Kicked Duck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/14 12:36 PM

I Love my new touch unit learn something new every trip. only 1 thing I would change, the brightness level. wish it would reset to a daylight setting at power up, I like to never got the brightness level turned up after a night trip.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/14 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Kicked Duck
I Love my new touch unit learn something new every trip. only 1 thing I would change, the brightness level. wish it would reset to a daylight setting at power up, I like to never got the brightness level turned up after a night trip.


I change mine back before I load the boat to go home.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/16/14 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Kicked Duck
I Love my new touch unit learn something new every trip. only 1 thing I would change, the brightness level. wish it would reset to a daylight setting at power up, I like to never got the brightness level turned up after a night trip.



Yep, I made that mistake once and cussed my graph for an hour for breaking. Lol
I finally put a towel over it because it kept beeping, boy did I feel stupid. bang
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/20/14 06:58 PM

I moved the ducer down on the very bottom of the transom by the drain and water intakes, still no high speed readings, but that's OK, I'll just slow down when I need to see water depth.

Now another question...........
I got a Navionics Premium South s6 map card with my Hummingbird, but it won't go in my Lowranve Elite 7 HDI. What kind of map card do I need for my Low HDI Elite 7 ???????
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/21/14 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Nutman

Now another question...........
I got a Navionics Premium South s6 map card with my Hummingbird, but it won't go in my Lowranve Elite 7 HDI. What kind of map card do I need for my Low HDI Elite 7 ???????


The elite series take the Micro SD card. Did you purchase the Micro SD? If so the micro card is inside the larger card. It slides into the bottom of the larger card. Just pull it out and put it in the elite slot and your good to go.
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/21/14 03:24 PM

Thank you, very much
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/22/14 12:45 PM

Now if I could just get my transducer to read while on plane at 40mph I would be oh so thankful.
Posted By: sbump26

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/23/14 12:28 AM

Looking at Lowrance Elite 5 HDI GPS plotter and fishfinder. Gander Mtn has one with something called CHIRP what is this?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/23/14 01:29 AM


Originally Posted By: sbump26
Looking at Lowrance Elite 5 HDI GPS plotter and fishfinder. Gander Mtn has one with something called CHIRP what is this?


CHIRP Systems
Sonar reaches a whole new level.

CHIRP is the new sonar technology recently released to consumers by marine electronics gurus Garmin and Simrad. Its complete name is compressed high-intensity radar pulse, and while the technology has been around some decades in military and commercial applications, these two players are the first to bring boaters the ultimate coolness of sonar clarity.
CHIRP makes reading sonar signals on a chart plotter amazingly simple by using a technology that is really not so simple. Essentially, CHIRP replaces a single-frequency ping with a pulse that crosses from low to high frequencies. Think of the chirp a bird makes. It starts on a high or low note and ends on the opposite end of the frequency scale to make a pleasing noise. It is essentially a myriad of pings fired in a single burst. Thanks to the computing capabilities within the black box, these new sonars separate these frequencies, measure their distinctive returns, weigh the timing of the returns and their volume or amplitude and use the information to plot a high-resolution image of the bottom and targets in between.
Ok, that’s a mouthful, but their benefits were easy to define in our recent tests. It’s like the difference between watching standard-resolution television on a circa-1980 TV and watching high-definition TV on a 50-inch 1080p screen. Remarkable.
-We saw that target resolution was consistently detailed from shallow to very deep water and easily maintained a solid bottom return at depths of 1,000 feet. A trademark advantage to CHIRP is its ability to plot depths to 10,000 feet.

What Is CHIRP?
The first consumer sonars came from Lowrance, more than 50 years ago.
These sonars transmitted a ping that could be heard by the human ear as a “click.” They measured the time it took the ping echo to return to the transducer and measured its volume, called amplitude, to determine the target depth. It took a long ping to penetrate water to the target. The longer the ping, the more targets blended together. For 5o years, sonar-interpreting capabilities improved with software and LCD screens, but the single-frequency ping remained as its weak link.
A CHIRP signal crosses from high to low frequencies in an elongated pulse and penetrates the water better. Next, sophisticated “black box” software distinguishes the returns of varying frequencies, their timing and volume in a complex but instantaneous calculation that allows the device to plot a much-higher-resolution image of targets on the screen instead of one faceless blob.

I believe moving forward into 2015 all Lowrance will have Chirp....Gen3

Posted By: sbump26

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/23/14 02:23 AM

599.99 at Gander with basemaps. Is it worth its 100.00 extra cost over the Academy unit with out it? Do you have these SUAF, is so what is your price?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/23/14 11:39 AM


PM sent
Posted By: drifter106

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/14 03:17 AM

bottom line, does this technology really help the "inland" fisherman"? Working with depths less than 100 ft?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/14 04:18 AM


Originally Posted By: drifter106
bottom line, does this technology really help the "inland" fisherman"? Working with depths less than 100 ft?


If you are talking about the Chirp it will be standard on all Lowrance for Gen3 coming soon soon soon.....
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/02/14 08:59 PM

So when is Lowrance going to include SI on something like the Elite 5?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/02/14 11:33 PM


Originally Posted By: BKT
So when is Lowrance going to include SI on something like the Elite 5?


Elite series is DI only. HDS is side image which is offered in the 5" display already.

Maybe with Gen3 coming out they will offer a 5" wide display version....Like humminbird has done on the Helix 5...
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/06/14 03:41 AM

I have a Lowrance curiosity question. If I have a Gen 1 HDS 5 (I am not the original owner, but the barcode/sticker is still on the unit), and it crapped out on me, will Lowrance give me some sort of credit towards a new graph for sending it in?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/06/14 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Frank the Tank
I have a Lowrance curiosity question. If I have a Gen 1 HDS 5 (I am not the original owner, but the barcode/sticker is still on the unit), and it crapped out on me, will Lowrance give me some sort of credit towards a new graph for sending it in?



My guess is it would depend if the graph was ever registered for warranty or not.
Posted By: squirrelhunter09

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/10/14 04:12 AM

Guess this is the place for this question. I'm a lowrance fan but always had their lesser units and just used it for depth. i'm looking to get a better unit that can accurately spot bait school and fish schools while hunting down white and striped bass. any suggestions?

I'm looking at an Elite-7x HDI because I do not need the chartplotter and wanting to pay between $300 - $700. will this do the job?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/11/14 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: squirrelhunter09
Guess this is the place for this question. I'm a lowrance fan but always had their lesser units and just used it for depth. i'm looking to get a better unit that can accurately spot bait school and fish schools while hunting down white and striped bass. any suggestions?

I'm looking at an Elite-7x HDI because I do not need the chartplotter and wanting to pay between $300 - $700. will this do the job?


That is a great choice.

PM sent
Posted By: lcbl75771

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/13/14 11:13 PM

I have 1 question about the Elite 7 units. I have heard the Elite 7 had problems with being too slow to refresh the maps when running over certain speeds. I bought one for the bow since I will only be trolling using that one. Do the new chirp models address this issue or do they still have the same problem? I would like another one for the console, but if the unit is too slow to load the maps, what would be the point in getting one?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/14/14 03:30 AM


Originally Posted By: lcbl75771
I have 1 question about the Elite 7 units. I have heard the Elite 7 had problems with being too slow to refresh the maps when running over certain speeds. I bought one for the bow since I will only be trolling using that one. Do the new chirp models address this issue or do they still have the same problem? I would like another one for the console, but if the unit is too slow to load the maps, what would be the point in getting one?


It is a fantastic unit on the bow/trolling motor. It works well on the console as well but yes you are correct about slow to update on charts. It is workable if you have a good sense of judgement meaning compensate as the boat is turning in association to where the waypoint is at.

Chirp has the same processor as the non chirp. I recommend bumping up to HDS on the console and getting the point 1 antenna.

Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/14 04:01 PM

Totally agree with David a SUAF. But, when you move up to the HDS you still need to add a Point1 antenna to speed up the graph display. Same you would have to do with HB only they call it something different.
I've had both and hated them both for that very reason. Added the newer antenna and am now a happy camper!
Posted By: newbiefisher

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/14 07:13 PM

What does adding that antena do?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/16/14 08:59 PM


Originally Posted By: newbiefisher
What does adding that antena do?


http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/10158772/1
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/18/14 06:49 PM


More detailed information coming soon.....

Product Description
The all new Gen3 Lowrance High Definition System (HDS) combines a brighter, multi-touch display and an enhanced processor with leading-edge fishfinder technologies, including CHIRP Sonar, Broadband Sounder, DownScan Imaging, and Trackback view. The Lowrance Gen3 Series utilizes the latest advances in navigation and user interface, incorporating an internal 10Hz GPS, dual microSD card slots, touch-plus-keypad operation, and built-in wireless connectivity, all in one easy-to-use display.

Simple-To-Use Lowrance Interface
The HDS Gen3 Series features an easy-to-see, LED-backlit, widescreen display that provides both multi-touch, touchscreen, and keypad options for lightning fast, fingertip access to all HDS features. Quickly make adjustments with an enhanced, faster processor and intuitive user-interface features like scrolling menus, cursor assist, snap-to-setting markers, and preview panes with quick-touch slider bars. Stay connected with integrated wireless connectivity. With the Lowrance GoFree App you can view and control select HDS Gen3 displays wirelessly using supported tablets or smartphones. Features a single ethernet networking port and Micro-C connection for NMEA 2000 devices.

Latest Advances in Navigation
The internal GPS antenna with 10Hz position update rate provides ultra-accurate trails, smoother chart performance, and maximum position accuracy. It supports WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS corrections. The HDS Gen3 includes built-in Insight USA charts for Coastal and Inland US waters and a world background reference map. Dual microSD-card slots let you upgrade to the most expansive selection of compatible cartography on the market, including Insight, Navionics, C-Map, and more. HDS Gen3 models are also compatible with the online Insight Genesis map-creation service, which allows users to make custom, high-resolution contour maps from recorded sonar logs, including bottom-hardness and vegetation overlays.

You can also view two charts simultaneously, in 2D or 3D perspective view, with independent control, range, and overlay capabilities.

Leading-Edge Fishfinder Technologies
Dominate with greater sensitivity, improved target resolution, and superior noise rejection for clearer, easy-to-see bait fish and game fish targets. The single Lowrance Skimmer Transducer delivers CHIRP sonar performance, including the capabilities to produce low, medium, and high CHIRP sonar ranges, as well as 83/200 kHz Broadband Sounder frequencies. The award-winning Broadband Sounder allows you to display and mark game fish, baitfish, and structures at higher speeds and at greater depths down to 1000'.

DownScan Overlay technology overlays DownScan Imaging onto CHIRP or Broadband Sonar. TrackBack lets you scroll back through sonar imaging history to review structure or fish targets and pinpoint the location with a waypoint.

Specifications
• Display Size: 12" Widescreen (16:9)
• Display: WVGA Color TFT LCD
• Resolution: 1280 x 800
• Power Output: 500W RMS
• Warranty: Two Years

• Frequencies: 83/200 kHz
• Max Depth: 1000'

• Connections: NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000
• Waterproof Rating: IPx7
Specifications
Model HDS-12 Gen3
Display
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/09/14 08:09 PM


The long wait is just about up. Available soon @ shut-up-and-fish

MotorGuide Pinpoint GPS Gateway Kit
Model: 8M0092085
In Stock: 0 / ETA: 12/29/2014


Lowrance Outboard Pilot Hydraulic Pack
Model: 000-11748-001
IN STOCK: 0 / ETA: 02/06/15


Lowrance Outboard Pilot Cable Steer Pack
Model: 000-11749-001
IN STOCK: 0 / ETA: 01/16/15
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/10/14 12:05 PM

Wow, can't wait to hear more David. Keep the info coming!
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/12/14 03:49 PM


OK....So far ETA is showing sometime between now and April......

Shoot me a PM if you would like the detailed description of any specific model.


000-11798-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 3399.00
000-11796-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 3249.00
000-11795-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 3199.00
000-11794-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 3149.00


000-11793-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 2299.00
000-11791-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 2149.00
000-11790-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 2099.00
000-11789-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 2049.00


000-11788-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 1499.00
000-11786-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 1349.00
000-11785-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 1299.00
000-11784-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 1249.00


000-12175-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR 1299.00
000-12178-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 1499.00
000-12179-001 ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR 1199.00
000-12177-001 ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR
000-12181-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1299.00
000-12176-001 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1399.00
000-12180-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1399.00

[
000-12184-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1099.00
000-12183-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1199.00
000-12182-001 ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR 999.00



00-011817-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ 329.00
000-11816-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ 429.00
000-11812-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 399.00
000-11808-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 599.00
000-11815-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR US CAN NAV+ 229.00
000-11810-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR 249.00


000-11820-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 50/200 455/800 ELITE-4X CHIRP 50/200 455/800
000-11807-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 455/800 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 455/800
000-11806-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200

There are a few other Elite 4 models available.....

Posted By: Mark Munkres

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/13/14 03:19 PM

I have a couple of questions. I just bought an HDS-8 with structure scan and just got it installed into the boat. In reading on here I decided to order the Point 1 and it is on the way. What I am trying to figure out now is what software I need. I am in NW Oklahoma and will be fishing area lakes for now. I want to have what I need and not buy something I really don't need. Also, this boat had a Elite-5 fishfinder on it when I bought it. I want to move it to the front of the boat and am wondering if it can be tied in with the HDS-8 or not. The transponder for the Elite-5 is epoxied to the bottom of the back of the boat. If I try to use that transponder will the two interfere with each other or do I need to move it to the front to my trolling motor? Thanks.
Posted By: dlang8

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/13/14 04:57 PM

This is my first attempt to upload photos so hopefully it works. Anyway, check out the images below and see if anyone can help. I have an elite 7 hdi and while sitting still I get long arches on DSI and Sonar. Moving I get millions of dots. You can see how the transducer is mounted on one of the images. Can anyone help?!?!?


Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/20/14 03:15 AM


Gen III writeup at Panbo ...

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2014/12/lo...r_two_ways.html

Posted By: liketofishalot

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/24/14 02:49 PM

got a dumb question. i have the Mark 5x and elite 5DSi. when i am trying to fish a brush pile, i have it marked on my gps, and then i find it using the DSI. do i throw my marking buoy right on top of my transducer when the brushpile pops up on the screen?

is the picture on the screen directly below the transducer?
Posted By: ScottCook

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/29/14 02:38 PM

My buddy borrowed my boat and returned it with an Elite 5 HDI unit on it. I have the manual, but it's not clear or doesn't say anything about the following and I didn't find anything in these 23 pages of good info, so...

1. The attachment to the mount doesn't seem very secure. Is it supposed to just slip on and off or should there be a more positive lock?

2. Do the 2D sonar and the downscan use the same transducer?

3. Can I use my old Lowrance enhanced lake maps (the free ones they used to put on the website for download, worked in my LMS 332C)?

4. Can I add sidescan to this unit?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/14 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: liketofishalot
got a dumb question. i have the Mark 5x and elite 5DSi. when i am trying to fish a brush pile, i have it marked on my gps, and then i find it using the DSI. do i throw my marking buoy right on top of my transducer when the brushpile pops up on the screen?

is the picture on the screen directly below the transducer?


The image is below the transducer yes. Toss the marker up wind and head back to the marker to find the structure. Once the structure appears on the display look at your marker in association to the structure to give you the where about of the structure to the marker.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/14 07:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Unojo
My buddy borrowed my boat and returned it with an Elite 5 HDI unit on it. I have the manual, but it's not clear or doesn't say anything about the following and I didn't find anything in these 23 pages of good info, so...

1. The attachment to the mount doesn't seem very secure. Is it supposed to just slip on and off or should there be a more positive lock?

2. Do the 2D sonar and the downscan use the same transducer?

3. Can I use my old Lowrance enhanced lake maps (the free ones they used to put on the website for download, worked in my LMS 332C)?

4. Can I add sidescan to this unit?


The unit should click to the mount.

The elite can only accept the premium map card. try the free one you have. It may work fine as it may be lesser than the premium.

Elites can not be connected to structurescan for side image.
Posted By: ScottCook

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/14 12:23 PM

Thanks, shut-up-and-fish.

Does the 2d and downscan use the same transducer? I do know they changed it out from the one that the 332C used.
Posted By: Gamblinman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/14 12:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Unojo


Does the 2d and downscan use the same transducer? I do know they changed it out from the one that the 332C used.


If you have an HDI skimmer transducer, yes, they are combined in the same transducer.

Watch throwing that marker directly on your structure. It could become entangled, or worse, spook the fish off the structure. I try to position it a few feet off the structure I want to fish.
Posted By: Todd Ivins

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/15 03:00 AM

Hi Guys, I don't know if this was covered before but I recently started recording what I thought was the side scan. When I go to play it back all i see is 2d sonar. Can anybody give me a quick lesson? Thanks!
Posted By: Todd Ivins

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/15 03:36 AM

nevermind...found it on like page 18 or so. This thread could be sold for money man! Thanks !!!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/15 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: JT Jerkbait
nevermind...found it on like page 18 or so. This thread could be sold for money man! Thanks !!!



For anybody else, you have to press menu and change the "view" from primary to down or side.
Posted By: JAZ250

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/04/15 08:21 PM

Hds 10 gen 2 question.
My unit seems to be stuck on a screen saver page that says Hds with lowrance under neath it.
I have tried the soft and hard reset to no avail.
It is a brand new unit. Any suggestions?

Thanks
JA
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/04/15 10:17 PM

If you have any SD cards installed then remove them and try power-cycling the unit. You might also check to ensure that it is getting adequate power. Try hooking the unit directly to the battery without going through any of the boats existing wiring.
Posted By: JAZ250

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/04/15 11:13 PM

I'll try
Posted By: JAZ250

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/04/15 11:56 PM

MAK
I tried both but no luck.
Thank you for the reply!
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/05/15 03:02 PM

JA,

If you have already performed a hard reset, then the only other thing that I can think of that you could try would be to download the latest software from the Lowrance website, place the extracted files onto an SD card, place the card into the HDS unit and then power-cycle the unit. If the units boot ROM is still functional then this may allow it to perform a software update which should correct any software corruption issue the unit may have. Other than that I believe having the unit replaced is your only other option.
Posted By: JAZ250

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/06/15 02:11 AM

I'll try it.

Thanks
Posted By: Ingle777

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/15 04:08 AM

Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have used the Lowrance Elite 4x Chirp... And if so, what did you think about it.
Posted By: Chris B

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/21/15 01:12 AM

I have a HDS 7 and 5 gen 1. The 7 is less than 3 years old but out of warranty. Is there any kind of trade up program that I can still qualify for?
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/29/15 10:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Chris B
I have a HDS 7 and 5 gen 1. The 7 is less than 3 years old but out of warranty. Is there any kind of trade up program that I can still qualify for?

Chris, I'm surprised someone hasn't responded to your question but, suspect nobody knows the answer. Best thing to do us just call Lowrance. I did hear they have some promotions going now on some Gen 2 units and also heard the only Gen 3's they are shipping are the 7" Touch. The rest aren't due till late March.
And, I heard there is going to be another promotion/discount offered on Gen 2 units starting around Feb 6th. So, I'd hold off and see if that happens.
Posted By: Todd Ivins

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/09/15 03:58 PM

Hey all, I have recently begun having a problem with my HDS5 gen2. It is getting its sonar reading from the US2 in my Ipilot and works fine on startup. When I go to move to another spot and put the trolling motor back down the sonar won't read anything unless I turn unit off and back on. Any thoughts?

Thanks for any and all input!
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/09/15 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Originally Posted By: Chris B
I have a HDS 7 and 5 gen 1. The 7 is less than 3 years old but out of warranty. Is there any kind of trade up program that I can still qualify for?

Chris, I'm surprised someone hasn't responded to your question but, suspect nobody knows the answer. Best thing to do us just call Lowrance. I did hear they have some promotions going now on some Gen 2 units and also heard the only Gen 3's they are shipping are the 7" Touch. The rest aren't due till late March.
And, I heard there is going to be another promotion/discount offered on Gen 2 units starting around Feb 6th. So, I'd hold off and see if that happens.


They do have a trade up program but most likely you will receive remanufactured unit in a new box/packing on upgrade....
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/15 12:24 PM

New question for you gurus!
I have a 9 Touch on the console and one on the bow. They are connected to each other by both Ethernet and NMEA 2000 buses.
The problem is when I'm on the console and using the transom mounted skimmer transducer and then move to the bow, the bow unit always has the transom transducer selected. When I change it back to the bow unit, then go back to the console, the bow transducer is selected on the console unit.
I'm thinking I've got something set up wrong but, can't figure it out.
HELP!!!
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/15 01:33 PM

OkieBob, is your "Scope" set to local on the sonar setting in Data Sources ?

Brian
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/15 03:02 AM

I was having the same issue and got tired of messing with. Disabled the "network Sonar" option and it works well now. With it set this way I cant choose to look at the other units transducer but I never choose to do that anyway.
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/15 07:29 PM

Hey Guys,

I recently had to change computers and lost the program of Sonar Log Viewer which plays back the sonar readings in SL2 format. I have not been able to find a new copy to download. Any suggestions where to find this program?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/15 09:28 PM

Lowrance no longer supports sonar viewer but there was a post on BBC that something new was coming out soon. They wouldn't say and were very tight lipped about it. I think someone there posted a copy of it, I'll look later and see if I can find it.
Posted By: CB327

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/16/15 05:05 PM

Grout-scout,
Thanks for the info and program download on my other post. You are the best cheers
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/15 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: CB327
Grout-scout,
Thanks for the info and program download on my other post. You are the best cheers



Thank you for the kind words, just trying to help the best that I can. cheers
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/15 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
OkieBob, is your "Scope" set to local on the sonar setting in Data Sources ?

Brian

Sorry I wasn't able to respond sooner. I don't know but, will check 'scope' setting is local and see if that solves the problem. Thanks for the response!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/15 02:27 PM

Okie, make sure your network is turned off too.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/15 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Okie, make sure your network is turned off too.


If I turn off 'network' will the two units still share waypoints?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/15 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Okie, make sure your network is turned off too.


If I turn off 'network' will the two units still share waypoints?


Yes the units will still share waypoints. All you need to do is turn off the network sonar option. After disabling it you just wont be able to select the remote units transducer as your source. Each unit will always use its own transducer as its source.
Posted By: PROCTOR-PRO

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/15 07:14 PM

What's the best chip for the Elite-5 hdi..do any of the chips offered show lakes and bays?...
Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/15 01:49 AM

My HDS 12 Touch makes noise when I shake it anybody else have that problem ? I own three of these units but the new one is the only one of the three that makes the noise and after a phone call to Lowrance I was told it was normal. What do you guys think???
Posted By: edwardphoto

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/15 03:27 AM

Need help with these images. One is the native insight from Lowrance, the other is from Navionics Platinum. I'm curious how to show the river/creeks running through the lake. In this case, Lake Palestine, you can see the river color coded in deep blue in the insight screen, but just a couple of thin lines in the navionics chip. Any idea on how to change that? Also, what is Fish'N chip? I've searched, but couldn't find anything.

Anyone?



Posted By: big fish2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/15 07:14 PM

If thats possible it would be a new one on me but you can view the two maps and sonar at the same time on your unit.
Also there is new software available for your unit that you will like.
Posted By: edwardphoto

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/06/15 03:32 AM

Thanks big fish2, I updated last night, and I do like it very much. Thanks for the response!
Posted By: edwardphoto

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/10/15 03:50 PM

I updated my touch software to ver. 4.0 and now my side scan is only down and spotlight. Have they moved the option for side scan? I can switch between down and spotlight, no sidescan. I don't even own a spotlight sonar.
Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/15 01:56 AM

I just installed a HDS7 Touch and LSS2 on the back of my bass buggy. Here are some photos of transducer placement:




Here are a couple of images. What are the horizontal lines between 5 and 10 feet on the downscan image?
What are the vertical lines on the side scan image?

The three columns on the left side of the sidescan image are bridge pilings.

Any recommendations for settings?

Thanks in advance.


Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/15 02:39 AM

Monty, do you have a motor on that thing? Give us a whole rear view of the boat. Drop the LSS ducer a few inches lower than the skimmer, or move the skimmer up a few inches.
Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/15 03:15 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Monty, do you have a motor on that thing? Give us a whole rear view of the boat. Drop the LSS ducer a few inches lower than the skimmer, or move the skimmer up a few inches.


I moved the SI transducer down about an inch (now it is about two inches below the skimmer). I'll test it Thursday.

Here are a couple of photos. On line I found a page that states the front/back cone angle as 3.2 degrees which means the angle from the center to the front is 1.6 degrees. The right pontoon is at an angle of 7.4 degrees, so it shouldn't be in the cone. I didn't find any information on the lateral cone angle.


Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/15 03:23 AM

I think your motors lower unit is giving you the issues, maybe not all of it but a big part of it. Dropping the LSS should help as well. I assume you have a trolling motor, if you do, try to trim/tilt your gas motor up as far as possible and see if you get those water column lines cleared up.
Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/11/15 03:38 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
I think your motors lower unit is giving you the issues, maybe not all of it but a big part of it. Dropping the LSS should help as well. I assume you have a trolling motor, if you do, try to trim/tilt your gas motor up as far as possible and see if you get those water column lines cleared up.

OK, will try on Thursday.
Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/15 02:57 PM

Grout-scout

Here is a shot from yesterday. I lowered the SI transducer about an inch and increased the frequency to 800 kHz. It is somewhat better. Raising the motor really didn't change anything. I must be seeing the right pontoon. I think I can live with it as the structure on the bottom looks good.

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 02:04 AM

Monty, that looks horrible. Maybe restore the defaults and start over, something is very much wrong on your system. Also why are running the overlay on the sonar? Works better with it on 200, turn that overlay feature off.
Posted By: LoneStarV

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 02:16 AM

I have the HDS touch 9 unit. In the first picture I'm wondering why I might be getting all of these lines on the sonar? Compared to the second one which was taken a few minutes later, the lines disappear when fish pop up. Any suggestions would be great.


Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 02:58 AM

Lonestar, chage your freq on sonar to 200, and SS to 800, you'll get better pictures. Next, make sure you select "shallow water" and turn surface clarity to "low" or off.

Make those changes and I'll bet things get better.
Posted By: LoneStarV

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 03:41 AM

Awesome. Thank you for the advice. I'll check it out Sunday and post results!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 04:12 AM

jfdawson, what do you think about Montys setup? Any thoughts as to what might be causing his interference lines? Puzzles me...
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/14/15 05:09 AM

Grout/ Monte,

If I had to guess... I think the right Sidescan is catching the motor as it shoots out right, which is why the white lines center. The left side is catching the sonar TD because they are mounted at the same height... Hence the white lines on the left side of center. On my skeeter, I bought the TSS jack plate bracket. After installation I had to order the 2" extension to get it lower because I was getting white lines due to the skeeter sponsons in the way of SideScan. Once I installed the extension ( ie. Lowered the LSS2) the white lines went away. As you (grout ) suggested in another post above, I would lower the LSS2 or raise the sonar and see how it looks. Also, trim the motor all the way up and tell us if the white lines disappear?

I would also suggested a differnt pallet on the SS to the blue or brown as I think it shows a better contrast. Pallet 13 on sonar will show better fish definition and bottom contours, IMO.

Here's a graphic ( not mine ) that helps explain what each sonar& SS beam looks like:


Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/15 06:46 PM

The lines are still there with the outboard totally out of the water. The last screenshot i posted was with the SI transducer lowered (it is now about 2 inches lower than the downscan transducer. The front/back beamwidth is supposed to be 3.2 degrees, but that only means that the power of the ultrasound is down by 50% at 3.2 degrees. My right pontoon is 7.5 degrees forward of the transducer, but I still think I am getting a return off the right pontoon (it is big so it returns a lot of power). I also may be getting a return off the transom. I think I may just have to live with it the way it is, but if you have any other suggestions I will try them.
Posted By: montyhp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/15 06:47 PM

Thank Grout Scout, will turn overlay off.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/16/15 02:42 AM

Monty, something that keeps making me scratch my head, is the color of your sonar? Is that a palette # or why is it black & white? Something is just not right with your setup and I can't figure out what it is.
Posted By: Just_Bass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/15 11:54 AM

ELITE 4x-DSI

Recently installed this unit on my boat, wanted something fairly inexpensive with color, DSI, GPS and sonar and this was exactly that. I would rank myself a novice with these units, with that said after getting out on the water, while running the DSI and sonar all I could was clutter from both? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Are there settings I have to modify out of the box?
Posted By: SRBBass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/15 03:19 PM

I'm in the market for a bass boat and am considering used and new. To be able to get a firm price on new I'll need to provide the electronics and config I want. I could use some help here with Lowrance - what are your preferred new models for dash, ram mount, and bow? How do you set your standard views on the dash and ram?

Thanks!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/15 03:41 AM

SRB, depends on your budget. If you're a man of money then you can buy some gen 3 HDS 12's. You really need to say what you want, need or are willing to spend for anybody to properly help you.
Posted By: SRBBass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/15 06:01 PM

Yes, the gen 3s look great. I would not want to afford 3 HDS-12 on my boat, however, and I suppose the best way to reduce cost would be to go with one large screen in the dash or ram and the 2 others smaller - HDS - 7 in the bow?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/15 08:39 PM

SRB, if you don't need chirp then get some gen 2's. Much cheaper.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/29/15 10:51 AM

Ok, I have heard about 'chirp' since before it came to the fishing market and I'm curious to know what comments any of you early adopters think, now that it has been out for awhile?????????

Also, I have a question about chirp, as applied to Lowrance's gen 3 products. First, it is my understanding that chirp is a pulse of multiple frequencies (to be very basic). If Lowrance has true chirp, how do they do that with the same transducers used since HDS came out? I'm thinking it's not true chirp but, some sort of algorithm that approximates chirp. I crystal produces a single frequency with very little side frequencies. I would think you would need a large number of crystals in the transducer to produce chirp. Am I correct? Wrong? Somewhere in between?
Comments please.
PS: I have fished with a buddy that has chirp on his gen 3 touch. I can't see any difference with chirp turned on!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/15 01:36 AM

I'm no "chirp" expert; but If you want real chirp you have to get an Airmar TM150 transducer or one of their more expensive ducers, the one I wrote is the cheapest option. Some say the Lowrance ducer does a decent job for the cost of it. Chirp is really the most beneficial when you get to deeper water sonar. It's true benefit is deep water, (offshore & such). Not a big benefit for us bass & shallow water guys.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/15 10:04 AM

Scout, I believe you are exactly right. So why is Lowrance stressing it so much? Guess I just don't understand what they are trying to accomplish with their product line. Seems they are only a 'me too' company with no real inovations, just copy what others are doing.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/15 03:14 PM

I would concur with your opinion. Heck even Garmin figured out a way around the all in 1 ducer that Humminbird has a patent on. So now Garmin has a all in 1 ducer and Bird has one; but Lowrance couldn't figure it out (or care to???).

I have no need for the chirp line but we will have no option in the future if we stay with Lowrance.
Posted By: Bill J

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/15 09:04 PM

Just bought the HDI-5 Elite and am a novice to setups. It's mounted on back of 1 pontoon where the airator pump box is but sticks below the pontoon. Cannot for the life of me get fish arches on the sonar. Can sometime get bait fish on downscan but not much there either. I fish fresh water in 50 ft maximum but usually under bridge or in cove of abount 25-30 ft. Really would like to use it to identify schools while under way and I need someone to give me the optimal settings to make this thing work right. 1st Lorance and bought it due to reputation. Previous 99.00 hummingbirds and somewhat same problem. Was hoping stepping up a couple grades would make a difference. All the videos I found on line were real short how to set this thing so it would work.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/15 03:26 AM


We do not need "CHIRP" in our waters...just sayin.

Lowrance now has "CHIRP" with the same transducers as in the HDS Gen2 and HDS Gen2 Touch ? and jacked the price because its "CHIRP" ? Oh and they also have blue tooth and wifi. Sorry but I do not need that in a finder. Just my 2 cents....

I do feel that Lowrance will be offering a all in 1 transducer in the near future "LSS3"

Sorry but I'm just not a fan yet....
Posted By: Bill J

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/15 10:11 PM

Didn't see the need for CHIRP either for my use. Really need someone to tell me how to do the settings on this thing per my message. Thanks.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/15 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill J
Didn't see the need for CHIRP either for my use. Really need someone to tell me how to do the settings on this thing per my message. Thanks.



I wish I could help you but I don't think many of us have used the unit that you have.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/04/15 06:05 PM

What do I need to use the Structure Map on my HDS 7? Also do any of you find it beneficial to use this option?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/04/15 07:15 PM

Just turn on the structure map overlay feature on the chart page (I think...) I don't use it because I have a map card and insight mapping that works just fine. Maybe I just don't understand the point of the structure map, seems several use it.
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/04/15 07:44 PM

I go to a lot of lakes in Mexico that don't have maps. So I figured it was time for me to figure out how to use this feature.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/05/15 12:10 AM

That makes sense but you might check out insight genesis for that or Reefmaster.
Posted By: DaggerDoc1

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/06/15 05:29 AM

I am by far a novice but I know my hds gen 3 will show a perfect line like those on yours when I pump my bilge which shoots a good 4 feet out to the right and 2 feet forward of my lss2 ducer so maybe if you have the slightest disturbance coming off your pontoon it may be having the same effect.
Posted By: CoachPayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/07/15 03:54 PM

Ok I have a HDS 7 Gen 2 on the console and on the bow. I have the LSS-2 mounted on the transom. So I can get the down and side scan from the back of the boat at the bow and the console. But I want to put a transducer on my trolling motor that lets me have 2D and down scan at the front of the boat. I have been told that the non-touch HDS does not have this capability unless it runs through the structure scan box. Any Help?
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/07/15 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: CoachPayne
Ok I have a HDS 7 Gen 2 on the console and on the bow. I have the LSS-2 mounted on the transom. So I can get the down and side scan from the back of the boat at the bow and the console. But I want to put a transducer on my trolling motor that lets me have 2D and down scan at the front of the boat. I have been told that the non-touch HDS does not have this capability unless it runs through the structure scan box. Any Help?
Since the Structure scan box does not have a sonar transducer port on it, you would need the SonarHub module instead. The other options are to replace the GEN2 Non touch with an HDS7 Touch unit and run the HDI 83/200/455/800 transducer on the trolling motor. This would give you sonar/down scan up front. You would still be able to change your "Source" on the bow unit and pull side and down scan from the rear LSS transducer if you wanted to.

Brian
Posted By: CoachPayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/07/15 04:16 PM

That's what I thought. I really do not have to have the down scan up front but it would of been nice to have. Guess I'll just stay with the 2D up front. Thanks Allot Brian.
Posted By: PTGfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/15 02:12 PM

I have a new 12 touch with a major issue. The 2D sonar and the side/down sonar will stop scrolling. It is very hit or miss, sometimes it will work for an hour and sometimes it will stop every 30 seconds. If you change over to maps and then back to the sonar it will start working again. I have the correct transduce selected, I have downloaded the latest upgrade like the tech told me (made it worse). Waiting on Lowrance to get back with me. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/15 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: PTGfish
I have a new 12 touch with a major issue. The 2D sonar and the side/down sonar will stop scrolling. It is very hit or miss, sometimes it will work for an hour and sometimes it will stop every 30 seconds. If you change over to maps and then back to the sonar it will start working again. I have the correct transduce selected, I have downloaded the latest upgrade like the tech told me (made it worse). Waiting on Lowrance to get back with me. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem?



Take your ping speed off of MAX and it will work like it's supposed to, there's a bug in the software.
Posted By: PTGfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/15 11:54 PM

Thanks. It already looks better in the garage.
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/10/15 02:54 PM

How do you choose an transducer for a hds 8 gen 2, mu buddy got a new one and I remember u have to go into settings and make sure u have the right transducer picked for the unit. There is a tag on the transducer wire u have to use. Just cant remember how I did it and cant find nothing in manual or search. thanks
Posted By: Martin F

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/11/15 05:56 AM

Need help guys.
Just bought a Lowrance Elite 7 chirp with GPS, down imaging, and sonar. I'm needing advice on where to mount the transducer. I have a 1993 stratos 285 pro xl an if anybody knows this boat you have your flat part of your transom where the motor mounts to and then you have a drop down that has your aerator pump holes and then it drops down again and that's where your plug goes. I'm needing to know the correct location to mount the transducer cause I only wanna drill once. Thanks for any info and help on this it's much appreciated!
Posted By: Wayne P.

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/15 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Martin F
Need help guys.
Just bought a Lowrance Elite 7 chirp with GPS, down imaging, and sonar. I'm needing advice on where to mount the transducer. I have a 1993 stratos 285 pro xl an if anybody knows this boat you have your flat part of your transom where the motor mounts to and then you have a drop down that has your aerator pump holes and then it drops down again and that's where your plug goes. I'm needing to know the correct location to mount the transducer cause I only wanna drill once. Thanks for any info and help on this it's much appreciated!


If you want depth readings when on plane, the transducer has to be just below the BOTTOM of the hull.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/15 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Kens3313
How do you choose an transducer for a hds 8 gen 2, mu buddy got a new one and I remember u have to go into settings and make sure u have the right transducer picked for the unit. There is a tag on the transducer wire u have to use. Just cant remember how I did it and cant find nothing in manual or search. thanks


Ken,

Press menu twice
Select Sonar and press enter
Select Installation press enter
Select desired transducer type and press enter
Highlight save and press enter
Posted By: Martin F

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/15 11:45 PM

Thx wayne p.
Posted By: bassquatch9

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/15/15 02:36 PM

has anyone had issues since the new update on the HDS Touch version 4.0?

For some reason my HDS 12 is working fine but my HDS 9 Touch is not showing the structure scan unless its networked to the 12.

I was going to separate the two to have one unit up at Bow showing downscan and sonar at he TM but I have networking issues I guess.

I am going to network them again via nmea 2000 and see if this helps, otherwise I will call Lowrance and see what they can help me with.

any help will be appreciated!

Bruce
Posted By: JLight

Lowrance Software Reset - 04/27/15 12:29 PM

I just updated the software on my lowrance hds 7 touch. The unit is now has big delays during all functions. For example, during structure scan the graph will freeze and then start graphing 5 mins later. The Basically stops and starts. The Fishfinder has stopped working all together.

It there a way to reset everything back to the original software version? Are all versions of the software available?
Posted By: 83falcon

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/28/15 02:44 AM

Who has a gen 3 unit? What are your reviews?
Posted By: ScottCook

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/15 12:17 AM

Lowrance SB-9BL transducer switch - I've read elsewhere that you cannot get the downscan signal through this switch, basically it only allows the 2D sonar signals through to the display.

Can anyone confirm/refute this? Looking to add an HDI transducer on the transom, using that when trolling and the hull mounted on plane. Elete 7 HDI unit.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/15 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Unojo
Lowrance SB-9BL transducer switch - I've read elsewhere that you cannot get the downscan signal through this switch, basically it only allows the 2D sonar signals through to the display.

Can anyone confirm/refute this? Looking to add an HDI transducer on the transom, using that when trolling and the hull mounted on plane. Elete 7 HDI unit.



You can indeed get DI through the switchbox. Originally it was said that it would NOT work but apparently they were false rumors.

So YES it will work with the HDI.
Posted By: ScottCook

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/15 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
You can indeed get DI through the switchbox. Originally it was said that it would NOT work but apparently they were false rumors.

So YES it will work with the HDI.


Thanks!

Scott
Posted By: Topwater2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/08/15 04:30 PM

I have an Elite 5 HDI and the question is. If plugging in a external antenna, is it plug and play or do I need to do something special to use it? Anyone?

Thank you
Posted By: jbguide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/15 03:20 AM

Would CHIRP benefit a bass fisherman?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/15 04:24 AM


Originally Posted By: jbguide
Would CHIRP benefit a bass fisherman?


Not really needed in our waters....
Posted By: spinnerbait72

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/27/15 08:34 PM

Need help.. trying to find the icons in a bmp format from hds units to add to the hotmaps explorer program im using to edit my waypoints, since i dont have on computer when i transfer over just changes to a dot and i want to keep the icons like i saved on unit
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/28/15 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: spinnerbait72
Need help.. trying to find the icons in a bmp format from hds units to add to the hotmaps explorer program im using to edit my waypoints, since i dont have on computer when i transfer over just changes to a dot and i want to keep the icons like i saved on unit


I use MapSource and haven't been successful in doing this. I've converted the HDS files in all the different formats, converted to different file extensions, and back for MapSource and it is still the same dots. Only a few icons remain the same or I use a substitute icon that kind of matches. For instance, for stumps, 'Diver in area' will retain its icon so I use it for stumps.

We have different computer software so hopefully you will have better luck.

In one of the S/W upgrades for the HDS, Lowrance made significant changes in their .usr file making it proprietary, whereas, it was 'open' before. I haven't been able to do what you want since then. To my knowledge, they have retain the new .usr format in subsequent models.

You would think saving files as .gpx (open) to be used in the unit, Lowrance could have retained the icons. Afterall, that is what .gpx was created for. I even used Lowrance's MapCreate and it didn't retain the icons - go figure.

If ever you're successful, please let me know.

Good luck.
Posted By: pinesjunkie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/15/15 07:06 AM

Soooooo I have two hds12 and with in a year one went out lowrance still hasn't replace it month and a half after receiving it and this weekend my other 12 powers up but will not respond to touch so stuck on the accept screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any tips before I send this one back I figure at this rate I might have a graph by next year.
Posted By: furim2

Question for Lowrance Gurus - 06/17/15 02:56 PM

I just bought a brand new 2014 boat. It has two HDS-8s installed; one in the console, one at bow. I still have my Touch-12 and Touch-9 off my old boat. I had the 12 mounted at the bow with both the structure scan and sonar transcucers mounted at the trolling motor. The 9 was at the console with the structure scan mounted on the step at the transom. I liked this set up, but I can see the advantages of even four units hooked up. My question is, can I mount the touch-9 on a ram at the console, and network it with the existing HDS-8s using its transducers. I would also like to mount the touch 12 at the bow using the trolling motor mount transducers, so I can get a true reading of what is directly under me. Will all this work, and how do I network the two 8s and the 9?
Posted By: FMJshooter

Re: Question for Lowrance Gurus - 06/17/15 03:42 PM

Connect the two units you want to share sonar with yellow Ethernet cables and you're good to go. Waypoints will share as well. If the 8's aren't touch run the ducers to the touch units then share with the 8's via Ethernet, no structure box needed that way.
Posted By: HolyGrail

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/15 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: pinesjunkie
Soooooo I have two hds12 and with in a year one went out lowrance still hasn't replace it month and a half after receiving it and this weekend my other 12 powers up but will not respond to touch so stuck on the accept screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any tips before I send this one back I figure at this rate I might have a graph by next year.

Mine did this once. I re-calibrated the touch screen and voila! Problem solved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGT0UJKjGrE
Posted By: Fishbonz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/15 04:45 AM

Originally Posted By: pinesjunkie
Soooooo I have two hds12 and with in a year one went out lowrance still hasn't replace it month and a half after receiving it and this weekend my other 12 powers up but will not respond to touch so stuck on the accept screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any tips before I send this one back I figure at this rate I might have a graph by next year.
Make sure your batteries are charged then try recalibrating the unit.
Posted By: lenahorse

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/15 02:34 PM

My HDS 8 did that 1 time a friend pushed the accept & enter at the same time, the 3rd try it took it.
Posted By: pinesjunkie

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/15 08:43 PM

New batteries and unit is total lock up won't get off the agree screen I made the call to lowrance there replacing it just have to wait until they have some in stock!
Posted By: HolyGrail

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/22/15 04:55 PM

Hey Brad, did you try recalibration??
Posted By: BKT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/15 07:16 PM

Hey guys I have had Lowrance Elite 4x mounted on my yak for awhile now and it's starting to act up. As soon as you connect a power source the unit comes on without turning the unit on. If I power it off, it comes back on by itself. It has gotten a good soaking a time or two punching through the breakers down on the coast also.

Any suggestions?
Posted By: bmcmkiel1013

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/11/15 10:43 PM

I have a hds12 bout a year old that I just installed. Had it on for about 20 min playing around with it, unplugged it and noticed it was very warm, more so than I thought it should be. Is this normal? Also have a hds5 bout 4 years old that will not power on at all, test light showed it was getting power to it.
Posted By: mslman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/23/15 02:47 PM

how did you get such great images? what settings did you use and where is your xducer mounted?
Posted By: billoptimax

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/24/15 06:56 PM

idk
Posted By: GhostRider32

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/30/15 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: 83falcon
Who has a gen 3 unit? What are your reviews?


I bought a HDS 7 gen 3 with my boat and love it. Clear picture and is pretty fast switching between screens and such. I only have the one HDS 7 and a cheaper Lowrance at the front so no networking but I'm happy with the results so far. I am looking at getting a Motorguide Xi5 in a couple of months to network with the HDS7, if it works as advertised it will be fishing gold.....

The reality is that most people don't come close to using all of the features of the new units whether it is Lowrance or Hummingbird. They both provide great pictures and both are well liked by thousands of people. If you ever plan on using a trolling motor networked with one then you need to decide what trolling motor you want because now it is Lowrance/Motorguide or Hummingbird/Minnkota.
Posted By: GhostRider32

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/04/15 01:25 PM

Hi all,

I have a HDS 7 gen 3 and would like to know if there is a way to organize my waypoints in separate file folders by lake? It would be nice to have all fork waypoints in one folder, all Cooper waypoints in one folder, all Palestine waypoints in one folder, etc....

My goal is this, select the folder for the lake I'm at so only those waypoints show up so I don't have to scroll through every waypoint I've saved. Is this possible?
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/17/15 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: GhostRider32
Hi all,

I have a HDS 7 gen 3 and would like to know if there is a way to organize my waypoints in separate file folders by lake? It would be nice to have all fork waypoints in one folder, all Cooper waypoints in one folder, all Palestine waypoints in one folder, etc....

My goal is this, select the folder for the lake I'm at so only those waypoints show up so I don't have to scroll through every waypoint I've saved. Is this possible?


I have done this using EasyGPS (Google it - it's a program for your laptop). I was able to rename all my waypoints and then I saved them (853 waypoints) as .gpx files for each individual lake. Put each lake on a SD card and imported the ones I wanted.

Here is the rub though, what ever you import will still show up in your Waypoint library and there is no way to just bring up only one lake on your FF. As far as I know it is not possible. However, you can go into files, select SD card (top or bottom), open 'the lake' file and you can select a waypoint from there but it is cumbersome.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/18/15 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
Originally Posted By: GhostRider32
Hi all,

I have a HDS 7 gen 3 and would like to know if there is a way to organize my waypoints in separate file folders by lake? It would be nice to have all fork waypoints in one folder, all Cooper waypoints in one folder, all Palestine waypoints in one folder, etc....

My goal is this, select the folder for the lake I'm at so only those waypoints show up so I don't have to scroll through every waypoint I've saved. Is this possible?


I have done this using EasyGPS (Google it - it's a program for your laptop). I was able to rename all my waypoints and then I saved them (853 waypoints) as .gpx files for each individual lake. Put each lake on a SD card and imported the ones I wanted.

Here is the rub though, what ever you import will still show up in your Waypoint library and there is no way to just bring up only one lake on your FF. As far as I know it is not possible. However, you can go into files, select SD card (top or bottom), open 'the lake' file and you can select a waypoint from there but it is cumbersome.


Save each lake's wpts in a separate file. Fork, Roberts, Cedar Creek, etc. Then import only that lake. When the trip is over, then export/save that lake's wpts (if you added any wpts, trails) to the SD card, then delete from the units screen that shows all the wpts. If the next lake is different, then just load that lake's wpts. My units have two slots, so I actually backup to both cards, and later update the computer. So if I was going to Lavon, I would load only Lavon. Those would be the only wpts/routes/trails in my unit BUT all my lakes wpts are still on the SD cards/computer. I do a lot more than this for organizing my files but this would solve your issue.
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/03/15 03:16 PM

Problem - I crappie fish so most of my way points are in close proximity of each other (individual brushpiles) and I am having an issue seeing each individual waypoint because of the numbers/name from the other way points. I have renamed all my wps to just the number digits (helped) but since I am now in the 100's it still covers some and makes it difficult to zero down on them.

Question - is there some way to make the name/numbers smaller so they don't cover as many wps? My units are HDS 7 and 9 and both are Touch.

I have gone into Settings - Text Size - Small which only seems to change the size of the Wtr Temp/SOG/Dpth/etc.
Posted By: mslman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/16/15 02:36 AM

I do that by saving my waypoints to an sd card. save them using the lake name then you can choose which file you want to load on your unit
Posted By: Sand_Fly

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/15 02:37 AM

I am installing a elite 5 hdi on my boat. I don't have much experience with the wiring. What is the NMEA cable and do I need it. It looks like a black rubber housing with two red coated wires coming out. There is also a purple chip with it. What do I do with this.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/15 03:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Sand_Fly
I am installing a elite 5 hdi on my boat. I don't have much experience with the wiring. What is the NMEA cable and do I need it. It looks like a black rubber housing with two red coated wires coming out. There is also a purple chip with it. What do I do with this.


Nmea is for external antennas, just wrap the wires up individually with electric tape so they can't short out.
Posted By: DNewt

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/15 03:29 AM

I just bought my second hds7 to put at the trolling motor. What are the benefits and cost of linking them?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/05/15 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Duper
I just bought my second hds7 to put at the trolling motor. What are the benefits and cost of linking them?


If they are gen2 or gen3 they will share a single map card. If you have the LSS system that will also share. Wypts share & show on both graphs. You can also make them view either transducer, so if you wanted to use the transom ducer while at the trolling motor you could (etc.).

This is done with an Ethernet cable, which I think is about $50ish.


If you are running external antennas then you would need the nmea network as well.
Posted By: CPR

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/15 05:31 PM

Hummingbird Helix vs. lowrance elite for a kayak? Both with GPS and down imaging. Any opinions? Thanks in advance
Posted By: Jonathan A

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/15 06:36 PM

Duper - Grout is spot on, having units sharing via Ethernet is a nice feature to enable if you have two units...Nice Work GROUT.

Good Luck.

-Jonathan
Posted By: dbullmoose

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/12/15 06:07 PM

Lowrance Question: I have HDS 7 and HDS 10 (Both Gen 1) that are network linked together. My question is, Waypoints saved on the 10 are only showing up on the 7 when both units are powered on. I don’t remember it being like this in the past. Is there a setting to get the units to update and share Waypoints?

Thanks in Advance,
DH
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/12/15 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: dbullmoose
Lowrance Question: I have HDS 7 and HDS 10 (Both Gen 1) that are network linked together. My question is, Waypoints saved on the 10 are only showing up on the 7 when both units are powered on. I don’t remember it being like this in the past. Is there a setting to get the units to update and share Waypoints?

Thanks in Advance,
DH



If you only have the NMEA network then what you described is how it works. If you have Ethernet then something is wrong, possibly bad cable.
Posted By: dbullmoose

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/13/15 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: dbullmoose
Lowrance Question: I have HDS 7 and HDS 10 (Both Gen 1) that are network linked together. My question is, Waypoints saved on the 10 are only showing up on the 7 when both units are powered on. I don’t remember it being like this in the past. Is there a setting to get the units to update and share Waypoints?

Thanks in Advance,
DH



If you only have the NMEA network then what you described is how it works. If you have Ethernet then something is wrong, possibly bad cable.


Thanks for the reply Grout-Stout. It appears you are 100% correct. I was under the impression that only Sonar data was shared via Ethernet. Do you know if I reconnect the Ethernet cable will the waypoints from both units, re-sync and be on both?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/13/15 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: dbullmoose
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: dbullmoose
Lowrance Question: I have HDS 7 and HDS 10 (Both Gen 1) that are network linked together. My question is, Waypoints saved on the 10 are only showing up on the 7 when both units are powered on. I don’t remember it being like this in the past. Is there a setting to get the units to update and share Waypoints?

Thanks in Advance,
DH



If you only have the NMEA network then what you described is how it works. If you have Ethernet then something is wrong, possibly bad cable.


Thanks for the reply Grout-Stout. It appears you are 100% correct. I was under the impression that only Sonar data was shared via Ethernet. Do you know if I reconnect the Ethernet cable will the waypoints from both units, re-sync and be on both?


Yes sir, hook it up. Automatic wypt transfer and viewing.
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/13/15 08:37 PM

what is the difference between HDS 12 Gen 2 w/ Structure Scan and the HDS Gen 3 Combo
Posted By: plasma800

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/17/15 01:36 PM

if I have two Gen 2 touch units, can I also share a structure overlay map?
Posted By: fagin007

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/18/15 10:59 PM

This weekend I installed the HDS7 GEN3 touch to my console and added the Motorguide Xi5 with sonar/gps and moved my Elite 7 to the bow for sonar only and GPS and I must say that I love how the 7 and the XI5 work well together. I marked some waypoints and loved how the anchor feature goes to the waypoint and keeps me right on top of what I marked. I am sold now on that combination and happy I went with the Xi5 instead of the Terrova its awesome.
Posted By: el Rojo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/25/15 01:47 PM

Need some help!

Just installed a HDS 12T gen 2, LSS-2 box and connected it to a HDS 7T.

Question is; How do I get the over lay info on the screen, such as voltage?

The manual says go to the map screen and drag down from the top (restore cursor) to bring up the hidden system menu and edit from there. When I drag down the hidden system doesn't appear. Or go to the utilities menu, I can't find that anywhere. It has software version 4.5.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks Red

Update:

After watching a youtube video it showed dragging down a blue bar above the restore cursor tab. I don't have that blue bar. The restore cursor tab did high light blue when touched though. I'm still searching but right now I'm at a loss.
Posted By: el Rojo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/25/15 08:48 PM

OK I found it. I guess the newer software versions put it in the menu box that pops up after a short tap of the power button.
Posted By: Aquiles

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/28/15 04:41 AM

Just bought the lowrance elite-4chirp and I cant wait to install it on my kayak , It came with a free upgrade to for the Insight Genesis mapping system , cant wait to get that turned on and start making my own maps.
Posted By: big10

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/30/15 12:17 PM

I have an hds 10 gen 1. I recently broke and need to replace the structure scan transducer. Are the gen 1 transducers still available new in stores or will I have to find a used one? Will a transducer from a gen 2 or gen 3 work for my gen 1.
Posted By: dbullmoose

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/30/15 04:44 PM

Okay Lowrance Guru’s, I’m getting mixed information as to if the “Point-1 Antenna” will work on my Gen 1 Units. The Point-1 FAQ and Troubleshooting Guide says,
Will Point-1 work with my HDS Gen 1?
The Point-q antenna/heading sensor is a standard NMEA2000 device. Therefore, it will connect to any NMEA2000 backbone and communicate with any NMEA device on that same network. The HDS Gen2 models, both keypad and touch, with software version 2.0 or higher will have GPS damping and filtering features, as well as the ability to initiate heading calibration from the HDS, that will not be present in any HDS Gen1.

I have read that it will work (for more than just another external antenna) if you manually compensate for magnetic variances or borrow a Gen2 unit when calibrating the Point-1 and it will remain calibrated after the Gen 2 unit is removed.

I really like how the Point-1 helps when fishing offshore, but I don’t want to waste the money if it won’t work on my system.

Thanks in advance for any help
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/30/15 08:26 PM

Yes, Point-1 works with HDS Gen 1. I have a HDS 10 on the console and HDS 8 at the bow (both are Gen 1) connected via NMEA2000. The Point-1 is near the transom where the oil filler is on my Triton TRX186. The Point-1 vastly improves the update dating on the boat's course. In fact, I was so use to compensating for the lag that I would over steer after installation. Basically, all you get with the Gen-1 with Point-1 is faster update to 5 times per second from 1 time per second. For Gen 2 and later, it is 10 times faster than Gen-1 without Point-1.

Your comment on calibrating with a Gen 2/3 is interesting. I'm not quite sure how that works since the Gen-1 head has no built in compass like Gen 2 or 3. I would like to know more about that for better accuracy, although I am very happy with getting what I am from the Point-1. If you have a link where you read about the mag variance, etc., I'd appreciate getting it to read.
Posted By: Aquiles

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/15 01:32 PM

Another question from a newbi , I'm curious would a sonar be able to distinguish flounder laying on the bottom of a bay ? Anyone have any screen captures if so .
Posted By: Kylefield

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/15 02:14 AM

I have a Motorguide Xi5 and want to hook up a Lowrance HDS7-gen2 touch. Can someone tell me what I need to hook the two up and use the lowrance waypoints to tell the motorguide where to go? I know I'm going to need the Motorguide gateway kit but am not sure if I need NMEA kit or just NMEA-T. Any advice would be appreciated.
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/15 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Kylefield
I have a Motorguide Xi5 and want to hook up a Lowrance HDS7-gen2 touch. Can someone tell me what I need to hook the two up and use the lowrance waypoints to tell the motorguide where to go? I know I'm going to need the Motorguide gateway kit but am not sure if I need NMEA kit or just NMEA-T. Any advice would be appreciated.



Get the gateway kit..

http://www.motorguide.com/store/accessory/gateway-kit
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/15 02:38 AM

Do you have a nema network? If not get the nema starter kit also.
Posted By: Shooter66

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/22/15 05:31 AM

Looking for someone familiar with Lowrance to install Gen 3 HDS 9 on xpress cc 20' please pm
Posted By: Shooter66

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/26/15 04:00 AM

Alright I have looked it over and am going to install on my own...question, bottom of boat is pretty straight, how much lower do I have to install structure scan transducer that the sonar transducer to prevent obstruction? Completely new at this, all help is appreciated!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/26/15 04:19 AM

Shooter, it depends on how close you mount them. The manual says less than 16" for a worthless overlay feature. You can put them as close or far as you need them. Just make sure the LSS ducer is a tad lower than the sonar ducer, easy to do on most hulls. Avoid putting the ducers right behind a strake and make sure they won't get knocked off by rollers or bunk boards.
Posted By: Shooter66

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/15 05:45 AM

Grout-Scout

Thanks for the feedback....first Lowrance and first install, so I really appreciate you taking the time to respond!
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/15 01:15 PM

I mounted my LSS transducer about 4-6" higher than my skimmer just to protect it more. I had to trim my motor up for a decent picture on the other side, but other than that the quality was great.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/15 03:59 PM

Yeah I guess due to the way the LSS ducer works you shouldn't have a problem with it being mounted above or on level to the skimmer puck. The LSS ducer has crystals along its entirety and the skimmer is so little. I've always run shoot through the hull pucks on my bass boats but obviously that's not always an option for most boats.

It's kinda sad to see how slow the Lowrance page/thread has become. Used to be guys posting pics and talking about the new products coming out. Now, almost nobody will even take the time to help others figure out their problems. Shooter, there are tons of videos on YouTube to watch to help you get a feel for the installation process and it's really pretty straight forward. Just lay everything out where you want to put it and check how you're going to run the cables. Try to run the graphs power directly to the batteries to avoid any problems with the graph starving to get enough amps to run properly.
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/15 11:43 PM

Question:
Elite 7 Hdi on bow
Elite 7 HDI Chirp on console
Connected via NEMA cable
But they will not share info ( maps or way points)
Navionics chip in the console unit only
What do we need to do to get them to share maps and waypoints ?
?????
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/15 07:40 PM

Sharing map is only with the HDS Gen2 and 3 and sharing waypoints is possible with the Elite link with NMEA 2000 but only when the 2 units are power on at the same time.
Posted By: champion man

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/30/15 04:36 PM

Looking for a new depth finder for the front of my boat . My last X85 got a sun spot on it
and quit working . I don't need all the bells and whistles , color would be nice,
a bigger screen would be nice, temp sensor a must .
looking at Lowrance Elite 9 .
anyone using this unit ??
Posted By: BVF_LoP_Guide

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/15 07:41 PM

Touch 9 side scan quit working I have tried resets. Anyone ever had that happen?
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/05/15 12:41 PM

Looking for some help with my Lowrance Elite 7 chart screen.

What would cause my routes/trails to be deleted from my chart when I go back to a lake I haven't been to in a while?

Thank you.
Posted By: lenahorse

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/05/15 02:22 PM

are they still showing in the files?
was the save option turned on?
is the display option on?
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/06/15 07:10 PM

ProbaBly because youre trails are set on Auto instead of time

Set on time and choose 1 second
Posted By: Kicked Duck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/13/15 01:01 AM

think all you would need is the HDI transducer for the bow.
Posted By: str1249

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/18/15 06:19 PM

I have two HDS units, networked, an HDS 8 Gen1 and an HDS 9 touch (Gen 2).
I would like to add an old LMS330 to the network for chart only at the console.
Can anyone tell me if this will work, what cables/cords I would need? The 330 has a "blue" network
port on the back, and that's all. adapter cable?
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/15 03:54 PM

Elite 7 HDI............
what are some good generic settings to start with ?
Posted By: Jason5366

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/16 12:43 AM

Have pinpoint trolling motor with nmea to lowrance graph. When marking brush piles from the graph and then asking the trolling motor to take me to the bp will the trolling motor try to position me where the graph was at the time I hit the marker? I have a 24 ft boat so trolling motor and graph are probably close to 20 ft apart?
Posted By: TWM424

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/09/16 01:22 AM

Can anyone tell me if a Elite HDI 5 will support a Spot-Lite scan Sonar
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/09/16 02:02 AM

Originally Posted By: TWM424
Can anyone tell me if a Elite HDI 5 will support a Spot-Lite scan Sonar


No, it will not.
Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/16 04:54 AM

I have a HDS 7 Gen 3. My temp reading is overlayed on the screen but I am just getting -- dashes on the screen.
The side and down scan are working. And it works when I hook up my gen 2. any ideas what's going wrong here?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/16 05:03 AM

Mind you I'm just popping this off the top of my head: Have you checked that you have a valid device selected in the Gen 3 unit? In other words, look at the selection for temperature source on the G2 unit and make sure the G3 unit has the same source selected.
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/14/16 08:59 PM

Anyone know if there is anywhere you can still buy a new LGC-4000 antenna, I have a LGC-3000 that I think has kicked the bucket, my unit sees it but it won't lock on to the satellites, have tried the soft and hard resets to no avail. What is the track record on lowrance repairing/replacing these?, sent a message to lowrance technical support but not getting any response.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/16/16 01:08 AM

Boss, You'd be better off with a Point 1 heading sensor/antenna.
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/16/16 05:29 AM

Is it compatible with the old LMS units?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/17/16 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Bossbowman
Is it compatible with the old LMS units?



You know, it might not be. Is your network nmea 2000 or 0183? The point 1 connects to the nmea 2000 networks.
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/17/16 05:19 AM

I guess its NMEA 2000, this is the double T connection I have under the console, its not quite set up like the one in the picture though. The top buss ends are both capped, on the bottom two device ends one is connected to the antenna, and the other goes to the network socket on the lowrance. Is this set up right?, aren't you supposed to also have the buss connected to a power source for it to operate? My lowrance does see my antenna, under the device configuration menu the status is listed as OK, it just won't lock on to the satellites and I keep getting the flashing date and time on the satellites status page.

Posted By: kerh2o

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 03:17 AM

New Hds 7 Gen 3 will not read water temps. Any thoughts?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 03:31 AM

Did the unit come with a transducer that includes temperature (that is mounted externally? ...or are you hooking it to an existing transducer? In either case, you need to set the transducer model in the unit's settings. THEN, you need to set the source for getting the temperature.

1) refer to the silver sticker on the transducer cable near the connector for the HDS unit.
2) READ the manual - I believe what you asked about is covered in it, and I'm curious if you tried that at all?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: Bossbowman
Is it compatible with the old LMS units?



You know, it might not be. Is your network nmea 2000 or 0183? The point 1 connects to the nmea 2000 networks.


While the Point-1 does connect to NMEA 2000, that alone doesn't determine compatibility. Remember that the Point-1 must be calibrated, for instance, and that calibration routine is offered in HDS Gen 2, but not HDS Gen 1. Yet, both HDS generations connect to NMEA 2000. So, it really boils down to: Is LMS compatible with Point-1. I'll bet my bottom dollar that NO is the answer. Remember, we're talking Lowrance here, the home of disposable electronics mentality. I think LMS updates stopped long before the Point-1 was introduced? If so, it would not have a clue what that device is.....or what to do with it.
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 05:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out


While the Point-1 does connect to NMEA 2000, that alone doesn't determine compatibility. Remember that the Point-1 must be calibrated, for instance, and that calibration routine is offered in HDS Gen 2, but not HDS Gen 1. Yet, both HDS generations connect to NMEA 2000. So, it really boils down to: Is LMS compatible with Point-1. I'll bet my bottom dollar that NO is the answer. Remember, we're talking Lowrance here, the home of disposable electronics mentality. I think LMS updates stopped long before the Point-1 was introduced? If so, it would not have a clue what that device is.....or what to do with it.


Under the point-1 compatibility chart on the lowrance website "NMEA 2000 legacy units" is listed last, I wonder if this is referring to the older LMS and Eagle units.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 07:16 AM

Lowrance seems "programmed" to be cryptic/secretive it seems sometimes. I'm going to make some guesses about the topic, but keep in mind I am ONLY guessing because Lowrance just can't seem to be done with it and blurt out:

"While the Point-1 is a GPS antenna and is a NMEA 2000 device, the most valuable/useful features of this device are only accessible via HDS Gen 2 and later." (Valuable features = heading sensor and calibration.)

I would further guess that if the antenna worked with LMS, that's all it would be - a satellite antenna. Try calling Lowrance and let us know for our curiosity.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 01:48 PM

Boss, go with the 4000 for safety. Like Flippin mentioned, the best asset the point1 has is it's heading sensor and we know for sure that won't work on the older graph. Their site is too vague to spend the money on something that won't work when you already know that the 4000 will.

Sorry for getting you off course, I kinda forget Lowrance likes to make their changes every 2 years to a new product.
Posted By: kerh2o

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 03:05 PM

Thank you. I'll check it out.
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out

Try calling Lowrance and let us know for our curiosity.

Finally got an email response back saying the point-1 antenna will work with the unit and they think my antenna has gone bad due to the symptoms I've described, going to call and double check since the compatibility chart online seems to contradict the answer I recieved.

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Boss, go with the 4000 for safety. Like Flippin mentioned, the best asset the point1 has is it's heading sensor and we know for sure that won't work on the older graph. Their site is too vague to spend the money on something that won't work when you already know that the 4000 will.

Sorry for getting you off course, I kinda forget Lowrance likes to make their changes every 2 years to a new product.
I'm not sure if the 4000 isn't already a discontinued model, again I am going to have to call and confirm this, I can't seem to find it anywhere online to purchase although its still listed as an available antenna on lowrances website along with the point-1 http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Products/NMEA-2000/
Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/16 07:44 PM

Thanks for the insight. I got it working. By selecting the correct source.
Posted By: Klinger

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/19/16 04:39 PM

Hey Guys. I am looking to upgrade my console electronics from an Elite 5 HDI to a HDS 7 or 9 Gen 2 touch. I expect to move the Elite to the bow for some time until I get a second HDS unit I can network. A few questions though if anyone has some knowledge on it, I would sure be grateful for the feedback.

1. Is there a functionality difference between the 7 and 9? (processing speed, response time, etc?)
2. Can I use the HDI transducer I already have mounted?
3. Will my power cord remain the same?
Both are blue connectors and appear they will transfer which would make for an easy install if all I needed then was the LSS transducer. Which brings on my next questions:

4. My understanding is the LSS 2 transducer plugs directly into the unit. So the module box is not needed?
5. Is there a benefit to having the module box at this point?

Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/19/16 04:43 PM

Does a HDS Gen 2 unit (7-9-12) automatically have Structure Scan built in ???

I installed a Gen 2 HDS9 Touch on my boat and have the SS transducer.
Can I just replace the head unit with a Gen 2 HDS 12 Touch and have the SS screen work ???
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/19/16 04:50 PM

All HDS 9 & 12 Touch models have StructureScan built in. I am not sure about any other size Touch model.

Generation doesn't matter - Touch 9 & 12 models have SS...."Touch" is the key part as no non-Touch has built in SS.

If you replace a Touch 9 with a Touch 12, just move the LSS-2 transducer cable from old to new display. You may have to do some menu settings to enable/select the LSS-2 transducer as I dont' recall what defaults are set out of the box.
Posted By: Nutman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/19/16 05:04 PM

Thanks ,,,,, the 9 is so good I got to go "12".
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/22/16 04:04 PM

I installed a LSS-2 StructureScanHD module on my boat to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-9T (Unit on console and LSS-2 Transducer at stern).
I was planning to install a second LSS-2 StructureScanHD module to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-7T (Unit on bow and LSS-2 Transducer on TM).
BPS wants an arm/leg for the second unit so wanted to see if I could share the module by plugging in the appropriate transducer for scanning (Console unit) or for fishing a brush pile (Bow unit) but I have a couple of questions;

1. Planning on putting a switch (on/off) right at the box. Will turning it on/off/on/off/on/off to switch Xducers possibly damage the LSS-2 StructureScanHD unit?
2. I already have an Ethernet cable (‘A’) going from the HDS-9T to the HDS-7T (to share waypoints). Will there be any issues with the other Ethernet cable (‘B’) going to the HDS-7T and same thing with the Ethernet cable (‘C’) going to the HDS-9T? I would like to keep from having to keep connecting/dis-connecting the two Ethernet cables.
3. Anyone have an extra LSS-2 StructureScanHD module laying around that they want to sell for a reasonable price so I don’t have to keep swapping transducers? (PM me)

And yes, I am well aware that the HDS-7T and HDS-9T can process the SS/DS on their own but I’m doing this to get XX% better images.

This is how I presently have everything hooked-up.



Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/22/16 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Klinger
Hey Guys. I am looking to upgrade my console electronics from an Elite 5 HDI to a HDS 7 or 9 Gen 2 touch. I expect to move the Elite to the bow for some time until I get a second HDS unit I can network. A few questions though if anyone has some knowledge on it, I would sure be grateful for the feedback.

1. Is there a functionality difference between the 7 and 9? (processing speed, response time, etc?)
2. Can I use the HDI transducer I already have mounted?
3. Will my power cord remain the same?
Both are blue connectors and appear they will transfer which would make for an easy install if all I needed then was the LSS transducer. Which brings on my next questions:

4. My understanding is the LSS 2 transducer plugs directly into the unit. So the module box is not needed?
5. Is there a benefit to having the module box at this point?

Thanks in advance for any insight on this.


PM Sent.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/23/16 04:29 AM

Blue, don't be so concerned about running the bow LSS ducer through a LSS module. You're putting it on the trolling motor, it's not the place to be concerned about getting great images from. With it's vibrations, shaking and turning you will only get decent/marginal images, so just stick the lss2 into the graph and don't play the crazy game that you are contemplating.
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/16 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Blue, don't be so concerned about running the bow LSS ducer through a LSS module. You're putting it on the trolling motor, it's not the place to be concerned about getting great images from. With it's vibrations, shaking and turning you will only get decent/marginal images, so just stick the lss2 into the graph and don't play the crazy game that you are contemplating.


Yep but more importantly, there is no extra Ethernet port on the HDS7- Touch so I gave up that dream
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/16 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Blue, don't be so concerned about running the bow LSS ducer through a LSS module. You're putting it on the trolling motor, it's not the place to be concerned about getting great images from. With it's vibrations, shaking and turning you will only get decent/marginal images, so just stick the lss2 into the graph and don't play the crazy game that you are contemplating.


Yep but more importantly, there is no extra Ethernet port on the HDS7- Touch so I gave up that dream


If both transducers are run to the LSS module, then you will just need to run an ethernet to your HDS 7 and choose the transducer on the trolling motor. The ethernets connected to the LSS also enable you to share waypoints as long as both graphs are connected and powered on. Don't give up on your dreams!!!
Posted By: Todd Ivins

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/16 09:20 PM

Hi Guys, I have a HDS8 Gen 2 and LSS2 structure scan. yesterday I busted off the 83/200 sonar skimmer and it cut and exposed the wiring. so needless to say I lost my sonar but I also lost my structure scan in a weird way. The HDS acknowledges the system is there but there is no pinging occurring. The Lss2 transducer looks fine as its on the other side of the boat. I was just curious if I could have popped a fuse located inside the Lss2? All my other external fuses are fine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/01/16 02:42 AM

JT, no fuses in the LSS module that I've ever heard of, just the external one.

Your 2d has nothing to do with the LSS system. So did the SI/DI just quit working or what exactly?
Posted By: hookinbass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/03/16 04:58 AM

I have a HDS 9 with SS and I'm get lag when scanning down and side. I don't have the 2D ducer hooked up to the unit could that be the issue?
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/12/16 01:52 PM

I would like to know what answers you got back, if any.

PM sent


Originally Posted By: Klinger
Hey Guys. I am looking to upgrade my console electronics from an Elite 5 HDI to a HDS 7 or 9 Gen 2 touch. I expect to move the Elite to the bow for some time until I get a second HDS unit I can network. A few questions though if anyone has some knowledge on it, I would sure be grateful for the feedback.

1. Is there a functionality difference between the 7 and 9? (processing speed, response time, etc?)
2. Can I use the HDI transducer I already have mounted?
3. Will my power cord remain the same?
Both are blue connectors and appear they will transfer which would make for an easy install if all I needed then was the LSS transducer. Which brings on my next questions:

4. My understanding is the LSS 2 transducer plugs directly into the unit. So the module box is not needed?
5. Is there a benefit to having the module box at this point?

Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/12/16 02:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Txmedic033
Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Blue, don't be so concerned about running the bow LSS ducer through a LSS module. You're putting it on the trolling motor, it's not the place to be concerned about getting great images from. With it's vibrations, shaking and turning you will only get decent/marginal images, so just stick the lss2 into the graph and don't play the crazy game that you are contemplating.


Yep but more importantly, there is no extra Ethernet port on the HDS7- Touch so I gave up that dream


If both transducers are run to the LSS module, then you will just need to run an ethernet to your HDS 7 and choose the transducer on the trolling motor. The ethernets connected to the LSS also enable you to share waypoints as long as both graphs are connected and powered on. Don't give up on your dreams!!!


You can't do that can you? I'm not familiar with the LSS box he has, but have only ever noticed ONE connection on them for a transducer.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/12/16 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
I installed a LSS-2 StructureScanHD module on my boat to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-9T (Unit on console and LSS-2 Transducer at stern).
I was planning to install a second LSS-2 StructureScanHD module to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-7T (Unit on bow and LSS-2 Transducer on TM).
BPS wants an arm/leg for the second unit so wanted to see if I could share the module by plugging in the appropriate transducer for scanning (Console unit) or for fishing a brush pile (Bow unit) but I have a couple of questions;

1. Planning on putting a switch (on/off) right at the box. Will turning it on/off/on/off/on/off to switch Xducers possibly damage the LSS-2 StructureScanHD unit?
2. I already have an Ethernet cable (‘A’) going from the HDS-9T to the HDS-7T (to share waypoints). Will there be any issues with the other Ethernet cable (‘B’) going to the HDS-7T and same thing with the Ethernet cable (‘C’) going to the HDS-9T? I would like to keep from having to keep connecting/dis-connecting the two Ethernet cables.
3. Anyone have an extra LSS-2 StructureScanHD module laying around that they want to sell for a reasonable price so I don’t have to keep swapping transducers? (PM me)

And yes, I am well aware that the HDS-7T and HDS-9T can process the SS/DS on their own but I’m doing this to get XX% better images.

This is how I presently have everything hooked-up.





You say that your idea is twarted because the 7T doesn't have another Ethernet connection. That's not exactly correct. I agree with Grout-Scout that its overboard to have a box for the TM, but I'll discuss it anyway. You would connect the 7T to the LSS box for the TM transducer. Now it is important to remember that all LSS boxes are ALSO Ethernet switches. This means they can route traffic to and from anywhere. Sonar data also travels over Ethernet, not just waypoints. In addition to the 7T to LSS #2 Ethernet cable, you would also connect the LSS #2 box to the LSS #1 box with a second Ethernet cable. Now all traffic can go to all possible destinations.

Now, one other thing: You have a redundant Ethernet connection in your drawing that should be removed. Ethernet networks do not like redundant pathways as it makes the decision on which way to send something more confusing. Often, this results in excessive redundant packet transmissions that can bog down the network. COMPLETELY REMOVE THE CABLE LABELED "Ethernet B" between the 7T and the LSS box. It is unnecessary and may cause issues. You will not lose any function or capability. Even if you wanted to connect the bow's LSS2 to the LSS box, your 7T still gets to the LSS box via the Ethernet switch inside the 9T. (That switch delay is measured in microseconds, btw.)

When you do that, you can connect the yellow wire of the LSS box to the yellow wire of the 9T if you plan to have the TM LSS2 direct to the 7T. The LSS box will only power up when the 9T is operating. Having the LSS box off when the 9T is off or in standby will help save you more power.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/16 04:38 AM

Too much for me to read grin, he just wanted a LSS module so he could get better images. The trolling motor LSS ducer won't give the cleanest images like a transom mount will, that's why I told him to plug it straight into the touch.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/13/16 09:19 AM

I agreed 100% grout-scout, and didn't disagree on any point. I just noticed he had a redundant Ethernet cable path that networks often don't like. I later learned he didn't actually have that cable installed, so the diagram wasn't exactly what he had.
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/16 03:23 PM

where is the TRIP, miles, etc screen on HDS 12 gen 3 ????
CAN SEEM TO GET TO IT.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/16 05:47 PM

Snakebit,

Look for "Trip Calculator" under the "Tools" panel.
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/16 08:46 PM

will try to find that! LOL!!!!! so use to the old LCX25c. everything was so easy to get to and change.
seems everything on the 12 takes 10 options to get to!
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/15/16 11:53 PM

HDS 8 gen1. Sonar is not reading depth. I looked through settings and transducer setting says "unknown". My sonar cable doesn't have an ID tag. How do I determine which one I need I set it on? Thanks for the help. Coach
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/16/16 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: coachmas
HDS 8 gen1. Sonar is not reading depth. I looked through settings and transducer setting says "unknown". My sonar cable doesn't have an ID tag. How do I determine which one I need I set it on? Thanks for the help. Coach



Is this a transducer that came with your graph? If yes, is it a skimmer style or the puck style?
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/16/16 04:26 PM

Skimmer attached on my boat just below the jack plate.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/16 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: coachmas
Skimmer attached on my boat just below the jack plate.



Now the problem is you have to figure out wether it's the 83/200 or 50/200

The name of that skimmer is hst-wsbl
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/16 01:22 AM

the 50/200 is a good bit larger than the 83/200. I have both and can easily tell the different looking at them. Measure the length of the skimmer like measuring the centerline of a boat. From that number I can tell you which one of those two you have.

Another thought: Do you have the sensitivity on auto or manual. If you have it on manual and the gain is turned way down, it won't get any reading at all. Be sure sensitivity is "Auto" and that Sonar is set for "this unit".
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/17/16 01:48 AM

Thanks. I will check that out tomorrow. And get back to you. Coach
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/16 03:05 PM

Thanks guys. Measured skimmer last night. Looks to be approx 2" long and 1.25" wide. Coach
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/16 06:06 PM

Coach,

With those dimensions, and if it came stock with the unit, its almost certain to be the HST-WSBL 83/200khz. The 50/200 is considerably larger than that.
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/16 08:03 PM

awesome, thanks.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/19/16 04:30 AM

Thanks MAK747, I had checked my transducers with his measurements and discussed in a PM, but I didn't want to trust memory on the transducer model # you have now provided. You're right, the 50/200 is almost double the size.
Posted By: Kicked Duck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/16 10:07 PM

Looking to buy new HDS gen3 9 bundle with 3D. how is that unit going to work on our local lakes. Thanks for any info.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/22/16 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Kicked Duck
Looking to buy new HDS gen3 9 bundle with 3D. how is that unit going to work on our local lakes. Thanks for any info.


KD,

The 3D is new and the jury seems to still be out on its effectiveness. I have seen several images taken while using the 3D module and if nothing else the SideScan range/clarity when using the 3D module/transducer seems much improved over the LSS-1/2
Posted By: fosterfence

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/23/16 04:01 AM

Does anyone have wire diagram to hook up 3 HDS units? I am putting one on the bow, and 2 on the console. Also, does the gen3 need to have the 3D structure scan box with the 3D transducer
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/23/16 04:42 AM

3D is an option. If you don't intend to have it, it's not required! If you intend to have 3D, then you need the 3D bundle, which is a 3D SS box with transducer.

How you should connect the system components depends somewhat on how you intend to use it. Do you intend to view the 3D data at the bow unit? If not, then the 3D SS box doesn't have to be powered on when you are fishing at the bow. If yes, then how I'd connect it is different.

You'll need at least 3 Ethernet cables. I'd use the bow unit's built in Ethernet switch, so two 15' cables connect there. One goes to each of the two HDS units at the console. With these 2 cables, all three units can communicate. Another Ethernet cable would be used to connect the 3D SS box to the primary unit at the console normally used to view 3D data. This ties the SS Box to the network so that all units have access to it. So, the primary HDS at the console has 2 Ethernet cables while the other console unit needs only one. Even so, there's no communication path not possible with this configuration - using only 3 Ethernet cables, typically 2 15' and 1 6' cable.

If you generally intend to only view 3D data at the console when graphing at idle, then the yellow wire from the primary unit would connect to the yellow wire of the 3D SS box. This would insure that the 3D SS box is only using power when that primary console unit is on. If you intend to view 3D data from the bow also, then the yellow wire from that unit should also connect to the yellow wires for 3D SS bxo and primary HDS unit. What's going on with the yellow wire: Any connected HDS unit tells the SS box to turn on via the yellow wire. If two HDS units are connected to the yellow wire, either one of them being on will cause the SS Box to be on also, etc.
Posted By: fosterfence

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/23/16 05:24 AM

I just wanted to personally say thank you to Flippin-Out. He spent the time discussing with me and walking me through my install in an educated manner. I truly appreciate the time.
Posted By: Aquiles

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/16 06:22 AM

Ok I'm new to reading these , its a lowrance Elite 4 chirp and its mounted on a kayak . What do you see ?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/16 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Aquiles
Ok I'm new to reading these , its a lowrance Elite 4 chirp and its mounted on a kayak . What do you see ?




I see a mess! You need to adjust that sonar...
Posted By: Aquiles

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/16 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: Aquiles
Ok I'm new to reading these , its a lowrance Elite 4 chirp and its mounted on a kayak . What do you see ?




I see a mess! You need to adjust that sonar...


Anyone have any recommendations on what I should try , is it just the sensitivity or should I be looking at something else.
Posted By: Javelinman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/16 02:05 AM

I was fishing Rayburn today, my down imaging, side imaging and sonar stopped working . I have the hds9 gen 2, everything else worked on the unit but si,di and sonar. I checked connections, di screen was just a blue screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/16 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Javelinman
I was fishing Rayburn today, my down imaging, side imaging and sonar stopped working . I have the hds9 gen 2, everything else worked on the unit but si,di and sonar. I checked connections, di screen was just a blue screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated


First thing I would check is the power to the unit. If it is not getting enough volts/amps it can cause some weird things to happen. Can you describe what you were seeing on your 2D sonar. I have heard that if the 2D transducer goes out it can cause issues with the StructureScan. Something about the StructureScan using the depth information from the 2D transducer. The next thing you can try is a soft and then hard reset. Make sure that you back up your waypoints, routes, trails and settings prior to performing the resets. The soft reset is not supposed to mess with them but the hard will delete everything.
Posted By: SRBBass

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/25/16 01:17 PM

Last year I bought a 2014 Skeeter 22i that came with a HDS8 in the console and HDS5 at the bow - non touch units. They are networked through a structurescan HD module with the skimmer transducer on the transom and a through hull sonar transducer (assumed since there is not another on the transom). I want to add 2 HDS 12 units, one at the bow and the other at the console. I'm thinking about a HDS 12 gen 2 touch at the console to save some $, networked into the 3rd ethernet port on the structurescan module. I would put a HDS 12 gen 3 touch unit at the bow with a troll motor mounted transducer(s?) to work independently. I would use the existing HDS 5 for map view with shared waypoints, and the HDS 12 gen3 for a split downscan/sonar for offshore fishing. Does this sound like the best way to go? I am not sure about the troll motor mounted transducer for the HDS 12 gen 3 unit - can a totalscan skimmer be mounted on the troll motor or is there another option?

Any help appreciated!
Posted By: rvrrat14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/16 11:53 AM

I just bought a HDS7 Gen 2 Touch. Am using 2d ducer but haven't bought the LSS-2 yet.

Question on mounting the LSS-2.

2D transducer is in hull. I like this. Out of the way. Have been reading on mounting the LSS-2 and it seems that SS imaging is best at low speeds. My main use will be with trolling motor and trolling speeds.
I was thinking of mounting it to the transom to the starboard side of motor about 1.5-2 ft, and HIGHER then the bottom of the hull. That way it will never strike the bottom on beaching, etc. And since it is best a lower speeds, the boat will be settled in the water and the LSS-2 should be in the water at slow speeds.

Thoughts? Thank you.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/16 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: rvrrat14
I just bought a HDS7 Gen 2 Touch. Am using 2d ducer but haven't bought the LSS-2 yet.

Question on mounting the LSS-2.

2D transducer is in hull. I like this. Out of the way. Have been reading on mounting the LSS-2 and it seems that SS imaging is best at low speeds. My main use will be with trolling motor and trolling speeds.
I was thinking of mounting it to the transom to the starboard side of motor about 1.5-2 ft, and HIGHER then the bottom of the hull. That way it will never strike the bottom on beaching, etc. And since it is best a lower speeds, the boat will be settled in the water and the LSS-2 should be in the water at slow speeds.

Thoughts? Thank you.



Bad idea, it needs a clear view of the right & left sides. Has to be low to work like it's supposed to.
Posted By: Nic Jones

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/26/16 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Javelinman
I was fishing Rayburn today, my down imaging, side imaging and sonar stopped working . I have the hds9 gen 2, everything else worked on the unit but si,di and sonar. I checked connections, di screen was just a blue screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated


Javelinman, Do you have two units on your boat? The reason I ask is that it seems odd for your SI+DI and your 2D Sonar to quit working at the same time, unless you're using networked sonar from one unit to another. If you are using networked sonar then it probably is networked through your LSS-2 box. If the LSS-2 box lost power or something, then you could have lost both SI+DI and 2D Sonar (networked)

Check in your settings on the sonar section and see if you are set to USE :"This Device" or one of your other units. If you are set to another unit, try setting back to "use this device" and your 2D may come back.

Also, check to see if your LSS-2 box has power and what lights are coming on.

-Nic
Posted By: Gonzz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/27/16 02:53 AM

How do I reset trip time back to zero in data overlay on a Gen 2 Touch 12?
Posted By: bholladay

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/16 03:57 PM

I have two Gen 2 HDS 8's on my boat currently. I am wanting to add a Gen 1 HDS 10...Can they be linked. And is this a bad idea?
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/16 10:08 PM

Yes they can and no it is not.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/29/16 02:00 PM

I am buying a new to me boat that has what was described to me as a Lowrance full suite electronics setup with an HDS8 and HDS7 on bow. I have lake tested the boat and the electronics work and seem to be pretty fast and the side scan is really clear as is the sonar, maps etc. How do I know what I actually have? Gen I or Gen II? The units are not touch screen. Anywhere in the dfw midcities I can take the boat where they can look at it and tell me what I have? Also there is a flip open Lowrance cover on the passenger console that appears to have some sort of plug in connection inside of it but nothing else. What would this be for?

Thanks
Steve
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/29/16 11:46 PM

Muzzle, that flip door contains sd card slots so you can record data or update your graph.

If they are gen1 Lowrance will be written in black. If they are gen2 Lowrance will be written in white. If they say "insight USA" on the flip door then they have built in mapping; but it's not impressive.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 01:02 PM

I guess I have Gen 2 and each one has a card slot on the head unit with a card already in it. Navionics I assume?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 01:14 PM

You described "a flip open Lowrance cover on the passenger console". What size is that? Is it located on the boat's passenger console? (and not on the Lowrance display?) If so, you have a Lowrance audio system. There is a docking station for iPods so that music can be played from the iPod, and you may be describing that docking station. The audio system is headless, meaning it is not mounted for console view. It is controlled via the NMEA network by any designated HDS display.

As for HDS Gen I/II units, I believe that most software versions (if not all) for Gen II actually display "Gen2" or "Gen II" on the screen briefly when the unit is booting. It's a big logo thing, so just watch for it as the units boot up.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 01:52 PM

Oops, guess I read his post too fast and thought he was asking about the sd card slots. Yeah, Mr. Flippin is right, that's the sonic hub. It works through your graphs but I have never used one so I don't know how they work.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 03:05 PM

Thanks guys. I will know more tomorrow when I pick the boat up. Gotta download some owner manuals if they don't have them to go with the boat. These Lowrance units seem way more complicated than the Bird I have on my old boat.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 03:34 PM

More complicated because they have 10x more options. Don't bother on a manual, if they've been updated then the manual doesn't follow the new software changes, all the menus are different vs. original software.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 04:19 PM

I might have to find me a tutor for this system. Might even have to take them fishing smile
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/30/16 07:40 PM

Just use it and you will learn it, the guys who are afraid to change the pages are the ones who never figure it out. You tube has a lot of info to view.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/16 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Oops, guess I read his post too fast and thought he was asking about the sd card slots. Yeah, Mr. Flippin is right, that's the sonic hub. It works through your graphs but I have never used one so I don't know how they work.


I have a Sonic Hub in my boat, so feel free to ask questions about it. I'll answer if I can. They aren't a key item for me, but I know how to use them. (This one just happened to be in the pimped-out boat I bought.)
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/16 10:31 PM

Well these are the things I have.
Lss-1 module, Sonic hub module, docking station in the dash, antennae and of course the HDS7 gen2 and HDS8 gen2. Also found a plastic container with Navionics cards and some other kind of lake cards that are in each head unit. No telling what kind of secrets are on these cards:)
Looks like it's a setup that will cover about all I will ever use and then some.

Thanks for all the help guys.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 12:43 AM

You might check the Sonic Hub and LSS-1 to see where their yellow wires on the power cable go. Some riggers who don't want to be bothered connect them to 12V along with the red wire. This will mean those modules could be burning power all day long whether you are using them or not (which I don't like) unless each is wired through a switch. I like the independent control I get from having two switches. That way, I can use the switches to only burn power on what I am actively using.

I don't run the 12V for the red wire through a switch. I keep the 12V connected directly to the modules for best power delivery. Instead, I control them being on/off by running the yellow wire from the console HDS through switches, than then to the yellow wire for each of the accessory modules. I understand that when the LSS is off, the units aren't Ethernet networked. But, as soon as I turn on the LSS again, they'll share any new waypoints.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
You might check the Sonic Hub and LSS-1 to see where their yellow wires on the power cable go. Some riggers who don't want to be bothered connect them to 12V along with the red wire. This will mean those modules could be burning power all day long whether you are using them or not (which I don't like) unless each is wired through a switch. I like the independent control I get from having two switches. That way, I can use the switches to only burn power on what I am actively using.

I don't run the 12V for the red wire through a switch. I keep the 12V connected directly to the modules for best power delivery. Instead, I control them being on/off by running the yellow wire from the console HDS through switches, than then to the yellow wire for each of the accessory modules. I understand that when the LSS is off, the units aren't Ethernet networked. But, as soon as I turn on the LSS again, they'll share any new waypoints.


Thanks. I will look at that. I do know the I have to turn on the master switch at the console for any of it to work. BTW, this boat is a Tracker Avalanche 18 DC and I will assume all the rigging was done by BassPro.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 01:37 AM

Rigged by a dealership could be a bad thing. If you have issues check back in before you start cussing the graphs. Sometimes those fools put too much on too little of a circuit and strange things start happening to the graphs.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 10:40 AM

At least they didn't have the headless modules powered 24/7. As Grout-scout said, check in if you have odd behavior. Some brands do utilize a dedicated power switch for the Sonic Hub. It sounds like you don't have one. I don't usually want audio on the boat so I like being able to know it's not drawing so much as a milliamp.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 12:33 PM

OK, I did find a brand new rocker switch in a package that has never been opened. Could be the previous owner was intending to isolate the sonic hub? I have checked out the graphs on the water when I lake tested the boat before buying it and the lake maps, sonar and side scan seemed to work perfect with great resolution but I didn't go thru all the options.
One other thing. Can I put dielectric grease on all the cable connectors/connections to prevent corrosion or will this mess things up?
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 12:43 PM

Also found another Lowrance LMS-334c iGPS system in the boxes with cables. Any ideas on what this thing might be worth? Looks like it is an older discontinued model.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 01:52 PM

Well, he was a dedicated Lowrance user. You might hook the lms to make sure it still works, prob does but still verify. It has the same power cables. You'll just have to look on ebay at what they are selling for.

As far as the sonic hub, just make sure that the sound turns off when the graphs turn off. Seems that some don't like to read the directions when installing things.

I've always wondered who listened to music while fishing, I seem to enjoy the quietness personally.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 02:48 PM

I'm with you on the quiet. In all of my life I never had any audio in the boat until now, and what I have now just happened to be already installed. I've never once even taken any portable audio device fishing. I rarely use mine, and never when fishing. The sound reverberates through the hull hollows, and I'm of the belief it makes quite a racket in the water! I also don't want the noise distraction from concentrating on fishing.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 02:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Muzzlebrake
OK, I did find a brand new rocker switch in a package that has never been opened. Could be the previous owner was intending to isolate the sonic hub? I have checked out the graphs on the water when I lake tested the boat before buying it and the lake maps, sonar and side scan seemed to work perfect with great resolution but I didn't go thru all the options.
One other thing. Can I put dielectric grease on all the cable connectors/connections to prevent corrosion or will this mess things up?


If you don't plan to use the Sonic Hub a majority of the time, you might want to use that free switch, especially if there is a blank panel position available to easily install it.

As for the dielectric grease, put some on the battery terminals only. Do NOT put any grease on the connector pins for any of the electronics cables; it will cause debris attraction/accumulation. Those connections are gold-plated and have an o-ring seal, so grease is not needed. No other connections on the boat should need grease - other than the battery.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/16 03:31 PM

If the sonic hub is powered on all the time wouldn't it be warm to the touch? I am assuming there is quiet a bit of juice going thru this thing since it has external heat sink fins on top of it.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/02/16 05:37 PM

The power consumption of an audio receiver/amplifier is drastically reduced when it is quiescent (on, but not doing anything). That unit has a 15A fuse; it can apparently draw quite a bit if 4 speakers + a subwoofer were blaring at high volume. (It has 5 available speaker outputs.)

I would not be surprised if it draws less than 100 mA if on but not playing. This would never generate any notable heat you would feel. In fact, those ample cooling fins would likely make sure the temperature didn't rise. Play it loudly for a while, and you'll probably be able to feel heat on the fins, but not while its quiet. You did confirm that yours turns off with the power switch, so that's good. What would NOT be good would be if one didn't do that as it would draw some amount of power 24/7, affecting available battery energy if a charger wasn't connected.

When I use my boat, I don't want ANY unnecessary load stealing any battery reserve power. Many Sonic Hubs are wired to be on with the power switch, or on when a graph is turned on. I typically don't want the radio in either of those scenarios, so I have an additional switch that lets me choose when I want it on, and otherwise it stays off.
Posted By: FishWrangler2

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/16 04:26 AM

Does anyone have any good reviews of the new HOOK series? Does anyone know which versions connect with you phone (HDI, TI, HOOK)? Also, do ya'll know if HOOK has the ability to have side scan hooked up to it if I wanted down the road?
Posted By: klockness

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/11/16 07:52 PM

I need some help with structurescan on my new elite ti 7. First lowrance included the wrong mount for my totalscan transducer. I broke screws off in the transducer so they sent me a new transducer and mount no questions asked which was awesome but took a couple of weeks.

Now I can't get the structurescan to work properly. It just shows a thin line on side and maybe 2/3 of the screen black on down. I've tried the recommended 800 Khz and varied the range. I have a boat with sponsons so I thought maybe they were causing an issue so I lowered the transducer so the top of the transducer is about even with the bottom of the hull. I've tried both totalscan transducers and I tried holding one out perpendicular to the side of the boat. I still get the same thin line to the side, by the tunnel, or just hanging out plugged into the unit. Now Lowrance wants me to send in my head unit on my dime and wait for it to be evaluated. Before I do that I'd like some more opinions on if it's the head unit. I hate to pay for shipping and wait another 2 weeks. Here are some pictures showing how it's mounted and what I've described.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskuJ2cjx

Please reply or PM if you have any thoughts. Thanks.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/16 02:25 AM

Klockness, my thought is to try a hard reset. Then mail it back to Lowrance or take it back to where you bought it from.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/16 02:40 AM

You did an excellent job of documenting your issue for us to review. Nothing is coming to mind to offer other than agreeing with grout-scout that you should try a hard reset on the unit. If you bought it over the counter recently, I'd put some hard pressure there (for faster resolution) and if that fails to work out, send it back to Lowrance. While they did ask you to ship it on your dime, they gave you a replacement transducer when you broke the screws, right? I think you'd still be ahead in the total deal.
Posted By: klockness

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/16 01:01 PM

I got it at Bass Pro online, there isn't a Bass Pro close by so I'd have to drive to Houston to refund over the counter. I was impressed with how they handled the transducer, just figured they would do something similar. I don't mind sending them the old unit back I just hate waiting and don't want to send it in unless I'm fairly certain that is the issue. In any of your opinion do you think I've done everything else properly and it's probably the head unit?

What do you mean by hard reset? I did restore factory defaults the first time I had it on the water.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/16 01:19 PM

Ask Lowrance on how to do a hard reset on that model, it's different than Flippins & mine.

You couldn't return it at the store anyways if you bought it online, they won't do that there.

If the transducer is plugged in properly you should be getting some kind of reading though.
Posted By: Cigga

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/16 11:07 AM

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Posted By: mosskeeter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 03:39 PM

im getting a new unit installed up front. was going with lowrance elite 7, but they just called and said the transducer would not fit on the trolling motor. I could go with an hds unit , and that way it could talk to the hds unit on the dash, and that transducer would evidently fit, however this sounds like a lot of money just to get side scan on the bow....Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 04:56 PM

I have no clue how the transducer won't fit. I won't do it, but there are even brackets to put a Lowrance skimmer transducer on a TM. I bought an Elite unit that came with a combo transducer for 2D & HDI downscan. Lowrance sells a $20 plastic housing kit for this transducer that is specifically for mounting it on a TM. Transducer Shield and Save makes a bracket for that transducer also. I have one of each as I have one Elite unit/transducer on the TM of my small boat, and that same transducer on the TM of my Ranger 521. (The transducer is compatible with HDS and Elite units.)

No Elite model that I know of does sidescan, but I admit I am not an Elite hardware expert. I'm wondering if you are saying sidescan when you mean downscan. To my knowledge, Lowrance StructureScan for HDS is sidescan + downscan, and for Elite units StructureScan is downscan only. Is there really a sidescan transducer for Elite models?

BTW, the current production StructureScan transducers for HDS are about 10 inches long. They are not a great fit on a TM, and the people who put one there are a minority of those who use HDS. A much more common thing is the much smaller 2D/downscan transducer that is standard with some Elite units, which is what I put on my Ranger with HDS.

Unless I'm not hearing the full story, the installer doesn't know what they are doing. The HDI transducer adapter is:

HDI TM adapter
Posted By: Wayne P.

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
I have no clue how the transducer won't fit. I won't do it, but there are even brackets to put a Lowrance skimmer transducer on a TM. I bought an Elite unit that came with a combo transducer for 2D & HDI downscan. Lowrance sells a $20 plastic housing kit for this transducer that is specifically for mounting it on a TM. Transducer Shield and Save makes a bracket for that transducer also. I have one of each as I have one Elite unit/transducer on the TM of my small boat, and that same transducer on the TM of my Ranger 521. (The transducer is compatible with HDS and Elite units.)

No Elite model that I know of does sidescan, but I admit I am not an Elite hardware expert. I'm wondering if you are saying sidescan when you mean downscan. To my knowledge, Lowrance StructureScan for HDS is sidescan + downscan, and for Elite units StructureScan is downscan only. Is there really a sidescan transducer for Elite models?

BTW, the current production StructureScan transducers for HDS are about 10 inches long. They are not a great fit on a TM, and the people who put one there are a minority of those who use HDS. A much more common thing is the much smaller 2D/downscan transducer that is standard with some Elite units, which is what I put on my Ranger with HDS.

Unless I'm not hearing the full story, the installer doesn't know what they are doing. The HDI transducer adapter is:

HDI TM adapter



The Elite 7 Ti is available with a Total Scan transducer that does Side Scan, Down Scan and 2D sonar. That is probably the transducer that "won't fit".
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 05:37 PM

Thanks, Wayne. Lowrance's info on options for products is poorly organized. One would think that clicking on "options" at the main page of a product would show all the options available with that unit, but that's not what they have generally.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 06:30 PM

It's a new product Flippin, it appears to be a re-badged gen2 non-touch model. Has gen1 specs though with capabilities, 1k wypts vs 5k on the gen2's. Pretty good value though, biggest drawback is the lack of enet network. Only has nmea networking.


As far as fitting on the tm, it should unless you have the model where the skeg is in the front. That would cause a problem.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/14/16 06:41 PM

Remember when there were two or three model choices to choose from? roflmao

Now, there are more choices than in a women's shoe store! breakdance
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 03:23 AM

I remember when a x85 was the badazz graph and it cost $500. I thought I was insane spending $500 on a graph. As much as I love the new technology, it's sure getting out of my affordable price range quickly. I'm not too sure what I'll do when my gen2's kick the bucket.
Posted By: Athens Guide Svc

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 03:04 PM

Finally got my Gen 2 Touch 12 installed and networked with my Gen 2 8. All data transferred properly except my WP symbols and numbers are now Very small on the 12 and the 8 displays.
I cannot not find anything on how to increase the size of the displayed WPs. Has anyone else had this issue? If so, are the displayed WP symbol and number size adjustable?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 03:35 PM

Did you try the "text size" setting under Settings/System? I'm not sure if this affects the WP size or not. I know it does change the text size in menus and dialog boxes.
Posted By: Athens Guide Svc

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 03:58 PM

Thanks for the reply, yes I tried that no effect. It was set to normal, but only had one other option, small.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 04:27 PM

Please post a message if you find a solution. Have you checked that you have the most current firmware installed? Even new boxed units have a transit time from the factory in China, so the latest isn't always on them.
Posted By: Athens Guide Svc

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 05:21 PM

Was going to check software today. I will post what I figure out or don't.
Thanks.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/15/16 06:33 PM

Beats me... I've never noticed a difference.
Posted By: Pistol Pete57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/16/16 03:47 PM

Hello, I have narrowed it down to the Lowrance Hook 7 and Garmin Striker 7. I like the idea that for the same $500 Garmin will give you both SI and DI although I like the Lowrance installed mapping capability. I have read people saying that any saved sonar settings they make on the Garmin Striker are lost and have to be made all over again if the head unit is disconnected from the battery. Since my boat sits outside when not in use I usually take off the head unit. For all of you that happen to have this Garmin unit, Please tell me this is not so. I would hate to enter and setup the settings every time I am on the water. Thank You
Posted By: Athens Guide Svc

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/17/16 12:10 AM

Got the small WP icon fixed. Nothing more than updating the software to v.5.5.
I guess I'm not the first to have had this issue. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted By: RATZ

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/21/16 01:41 AM

I had my Hook 7 installed and will be testing it tomorrow. Any tips on what i need to do to it straight out of the box to have it working right? My previous unit a buddy set it all up for me.
Posted By: mosskeeter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/08/16 02:01 PM

Units wont update. I downloaded the update from Lowrance, "I think" made sure it was unzipped, tried to update both the hds 7 touches , neither will update when i put the chip in, then power up the units.Tried another sd card, same result. Boat came with one unit, I just added the other, old one is on version 3 and new one is 4.5 or something, and newest version is 5.x I dont know what to do. Any suggestions?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/09/16 03:22 AM

Moss, delete the cards. Get on YouTube and write down the exact directions given and re-download the sd cards. There's also been times where guys couldn't get certain computer programs to work with the download update.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/10/16 06:08 PM

Just got a new from the factory HDS-9 Gen3 yesterday. Will it have the latest software updates already in it?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/10/16 08:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Muzzlebrake
Just got a new from the factory HDS-9 Gen3 yesterday. Will it have the latest software updates already in it?


Don't count on it, 3.5 is the newest. Make sure you update it if it's not 3.5, there were some glitches with the other update.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/11/16 08:00 PM

It says 3.5 in the ABOUT section on screen.
The only trouble I had today was it would not wake up my LSS1 structure scan. After a few reboots it finally connected. Side scan and down scan was awesomely clear with lots of detail.
Posted By: rvrrat14

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/12/16 02:47 PM

I recently purchased a Gen 2 Touch......I notice in the beginning there were lots of issues with the touch screen. Make sure you have good grounds on your Lowrance circuit. Mine all solved and works great.
Posted By: TX Cranker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/24/16 05:07 PM

I'm looking to buy an HDS 9 touch and was wondering if this unit can network with an older LCX 27 I have at the bow?
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/01/16 04:27 PM

Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to enable my down imaging on my Lowrance Gen 3 HDS 7?

I have the appropriate transducer and my sonar works fine and all of that, but the down imaging just doesn't come up for whatever reason. I have been told it's because the settings on the system are incorrect. I have also been told that it needs to be set to 83-200-455800. How do I do that? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/04/16 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: MTH82
Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to enable my down imaging on my Lowrance Gen 3 HDS 7?

I have the appropriate transducer and my sonar works fine and all of that, but the down imaging just doesn't come up for whatever reason. I have been told it's because the settings on the system are incorrect. I have also been told that it needs to be set to 83-200-455800. How do I do that? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


First you need to select the correct transducer. Here's how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAmAkP4w6mo

Then you need to select the correct view from the structure scan menu. Click on view and select down imaging.
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/05/16 03:59 PM

Thank you very much. I'll give it a shot.
Posted By: HeavyLead

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/17/16 03:40 AM

I recently bought an Elite 7 CHIRP, and it came with Lake Insight Pro v15 new in the box. It doesn't seem to be displaying any map information from the SD card. I put it in, screen goes blank for a few seconds, and then nothing changes. I've tried fiddling with the map data source (two options, Lowrance and Navionics. As far as I know it should be Lowrance) but nothing I tried resulted in any changes. All I have is the very basic base maps on the unit, and it's missing lakes like Lavon and Lewisville.

Anyone have this unit with this card and have any success with it? I'm really not sure what to do at this point.
Posted By: JIM SR.

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/22/16 02:25 AM

http://www.cabelas.com/product/LOWRANCE-LAKE-INSIGHT-HD-V/1941436.uts#tabsCollection
read reviews,..
Posted By: mosskeeter

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/28/16 02:47 PM

I have talked to Lowrance, and they have tried to be helpful, One guy says updates dont like apple computers, so I had a friend, that has updated his in the past give me an sd card with the update from a windows computer, and neither one of my hds touch gen 2 7" will update. I am done with trying to update them myself, I have tried numerous times, following the videos, etc, made sure the cards had nothing else on them, etc.... Should I take them out of the boat and send to Lowrance or is there someone around N. Texas area that I can take the boat (or just the units though they are hard mounted into the boat) to to get them updated to the same update number, ..I hate that i spent all this money and cant get them to be as useful as possible.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/02/16 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: mosskeeter
I have talked to Lowrance, and they have tried to be helpful, One guy says updates dont like apple computers, so I had a friend, that has updated his in the past give me an sd card with the update from a windows computer, and neither one of my hds touch gen 2 7" will update. I am done with trying to update them myself, I have tried numerous times, following the videos, etc, made sure the cards had nothing else on them, etc.... Should I take them out of the boat and send to Lowrance or is there someone around N. Texas area that I can take the boat (or just the units though they are hard mounted into the boat) to to get them updated to the same update number, ..I hate that i spent all this money and cant get them to be as useful as possible.


So what version is currently loaded on your units? If your unit is already running the same version that is on the SD card it wont do anything.

Bass Pro Shops will update the units if you take them in to them. Not sure if they will do it while mounted on your boat so would give them a call prior to hauling it over there.
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/15/16 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: mosskeeter
I have talked to Lowrance, and they have tried to be helpful, One guy says updates dont like apple computers, so I had a friend, that has updated his in the past give me an sd card with the update from a windows computer, and neither one of my hds touch gen 2 7" will update. I am done with trying to update them myself, I have tried numerous times, following the videos, etc, made sure the cards had nothing else on them, etc.... Should I take them out of the boat and send to Lowrance or is there someone around N. Texas area that I can take the boat (or just the units though they are hard mounted into the boat) to to get them updated to the same update number, ..I hate that i spent all this money and cant get them to be as useful as possible.


Biggest issue that I see is that someone will download the file from Lowrance as a .zip file onto a SD Card and try to update their unit. You need to un-zip the .zip file and then save the .upd file onto the SD Card and then insert into your units.

Hope that helps.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/17/16 02:17 AM

ready to purchase hds 9 gen 3 with totalscan i would like to get some feed back on this new totalscan
does the 2d interfere with the structure scan tell me the good bad and the ugly
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/19/16 11:29 PM

Nevermind Bass pro pull a quick one on me
said the total scan was in stock pulled the trigger
then said it was on back ordered
so i had to call and cancle order and got the 3d version instead
any advice i can get on setting transducer placement anything would help thanks
never had a lowrance before longtime 1197 user
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/20/16 01:34 AM

Post a picture of your transom, from the side & back. Good pictures, not pictures that nobody can see.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/21/16 01:27 AM

ok will these work
2007 nitro 591 if thats helps
thinking right above the drain plug in second photo


Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/22/16 12:19 AM

It should work anywheres down there. What's the white thing under the step?

Keep in mind that this transducer works better at slower speeds so you don't have to put it at the pad height. I think you knew that, but I wanted to make sure.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/22/16 03:05 AM

that white thing is a tube that is connect to another hole on the top of my transom not sure why it is there i do not understand the purpose of it.
when you say pad height want do you mean ?
I am supposed to get it in tomorrow wish me luck
Posted By: machinist

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/16 02:26 AM

Do the Elite 5's use a regular size SD card or a Micro SD card?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/16 04:14 AM

Originally Posted By: machinist
Do the Elite 5's use a regular size SD card or a Micro SD card?


Micro SD card. 32GB max size.
Posted By: machinist

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/16 02:29 PM

Thanks I am doing updates to a buddy's units
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/18/16 02:32 AM

nmea 0183 to nema 2000
has anbody done this for lowrance units
i have seen a module that says it can actisense ngw-1
does anybody have any experience with it
trying to hook hds9 gen 3 to a elite 5ti the 5ti has nmea 0183
thanks
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/16 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: m.sherman
nmea 0183 to nema 2000
has anbody done this for lowrance units
i have seen a module that says it can actisense ngw-1
does anybody have any experience with it
trying to hook hds9 gen 3 to a elite 5ti the 5ti has nmea 0183
thanks


What exactly are you trying to accomplish by using the ngw-1 converter. The HDS-9 has built in NMEA-0183 capabilities. The NMEA-0183 wires are bundled in the power cable. You can look in the Elite 5-Ti and HDS-9 Installation guides for the supported sentences.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/16 05:51 PM

I WAS TOLD BY LOWRANCE HDS 9 HAS NMEA 2000 NOT NEMA 0183
AND WILL NOT DIRECT CONNECT TO EACH OTHER
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/16 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: m.sherman
I WAS TOLD BY LOWRANCE HDS 9 HAS NMEA 2000 NOT NEMA 0183
AND WILL NOT DIRECT CONNECT TO EACH OTHER


The HDS-9 has both NMEA-2000 and NMEA-0183. Download the Installation manual off of the Lowrance web site for connection and setup information. Below is a small passage from the manual.

NMEA 0183 device connection
The HDS Gen3 display has an NMEA 0183 serial port, providing
both an input and an output. The port uses the NMEA 0183 (serial
balanced) standard, and can be configured in the software for
different baud rates up to 38,400 baud. The NMEA 0183 cable shares
the same plug as the power cable.

Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/16 11:52 PM

ok will give it a try also you should work for lowrance
if you do not already how can they not know there own product
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/21/16 01:55 AM

ok i did that but they did not share way points
is that not a capability of nema 0183
Posted By: Arkansas_Fisherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/24/16 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: m.sherman
ok i did that but they did not share way points
is that not a capability of nema 0183


It will not share existing waypoints but it will share waypoints made from this point on.

Both units need to have "send / receive waypoints" turned on in the networking menu I believe.
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/04/16 02:42 PM

I have an HDS 7 and the cable was recently severed. I had it reconnected, but it appears that I have lost the ability to see structure like I used to. I can't see it on my sonar or my down imaging. I imagine that the settings may have possibly changed. Any idea what may have caused this and how I would go about fixing it? Sorry that I can't be more descriptive. I'm pretty new to the electronics game.
Maybe there are general settings that the unit should be set at that could solve the problem. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/16 03:44 AM

Just got a new boat with hds 9 touch gen 3. When the unit is off when I start it up or have a lot of glare there a definite pattern on the screen. Don't notice it to much when there is not a lot of glare. Just seems like this is something I shouldn't have to be dealing with in new boat.
Anybody seen this before?

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/16 01:53 PM

That's the touch grid system and you have to be careful not to scratch it with anything, because it will scrape off. So, you're saying it's pretty visible in bright sunlight?

I'm not going to recognize your new screen name. smile
Posted By: Boone921

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/16 09:00 PM

Hey Mike. When there are images on the screen i.e. Maps sonar side scan. Can't see it. Just when the screen is black or even off it is visible. The unit in the front doesn't do it. Just never seen this. Also can't imagine being able to scratch it off. You joking about that?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/16 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Boone921
Hey Mike. When there are images on the screen i.e. Maps sonar side scan. Can't see it. Just when the screen is black or even off it is visible. The unit in the front doesn't do it. Just never seen this. Also can't imagine being able to scratch it off. You joking about that?




A Lowrance prostaffer on BBC said it's gold conductors that transmit the pressing process, he's the one that said to be careful about scraping them off. I don't see how, but with the cost of the gen 3 I'd be cautious just in case. Gonna shoot you a PM for a quick question. cheers
Posted By: Bullet[BS]

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/16 02:53 AM

Are the Lowrance HDS7 and the C.H.I.R.P. finders compatible?
Posted By: Windbreaker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/25/16 04:02 AM

Anybody have some recommended settings for the side scan? It seems like I should get s bit more of a clearer picture of what is fish and what isn't.
Posted By: Bullet[BS]

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/16 06:07 PM

They have CHIRP 9 at a really good price but would hate to buy it and find out it's not going to work with my HDS7 & side scan.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/16 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Bullet[BS
]They have CHIRP 9 at a really good price but would hate to buy it and find out it's not going to work with my HDS7 & side scan.


If it's an elite9, then it won't work with your Hds.
Posted By: Bullet[BS]

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/30/16 12:34 PM

Thank you!!
Posted By: Dillon Y'Barbo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/02/16 03:48 PM

anyone have a problem with the LSS 2 transducer? mine is stuck showing 176 degree water temp...
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/03/16 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Dillon Y'Barbo
anyone have a problem with the LSS 2 transducer? mine is stuck showing 176 degree water temp...


Sounds like yours took a flush . I've had pucks go bad, but not a lss ducer....yet....
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/03/16 04:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Dillon Y'Barbo
anyone have a problem with the LSS 2 transducer? mine is stuck showing 176 degree water temp...


I have the LSS 1. Try cleaning it - take a micro cloth (really any clean rag) and lightly wipe it. Hope it works for you.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/18/16 10:39 PM


Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/16 11:05 PM

I don't need it. It's just for bass. smile
Posted By: johnnlucky

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/20/16 03:20 AM

This question may have been answered before. Just can't find the answer. I have a Lowrance Elite -7 HDI. The down scan is not working. The screen is 95% black with a line of another color at the top. Would the High Definition Transducer be broken? My GPS works and the regular sonar works correctly. Anyone have a suggestion? My thoughts, power shortage or broken transducer??? I added a picture. It looks like a line around 15 feet but i could not see that. I think it is a shadow. Just the red / pink line at the top of graph.
Thank you for your help.
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/16 07:41 PM

Ok guys need a little education. I currently have a Gen 1 HDS 5 and Gen 1 HDS8 with structure scan (LSS1) on the boat. I got a XI5 Motor guide so I'm looking to upgrade to an HDS gen 3 unit to link them. Looking at 9 or 12 depending on the price I find. When looking at the gen 3 units, I see them listed with structure scan (is it internal now?) and I see them listed as bundles with a 3D hub (looks like an LSS1 or 2). From what I can gather, the 3D thing offers 3D mapping which I do not really think I need, so is the bundle necessary? Is there any other benefit to it? Thanks.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/16 07:46 PM

Structure scan technology is now included in all GEN2 and GEN3 touch units. These units can run the LSS2 transducer which gives you side and down scan. The 3D Structure scan is an add on item and gives you enhanced side and down scan plus 3D view. It required a separate module and special 3D transducer. If you don't think you will use the 3D, the go with a bundle that has the GEN3 and LSS2 combination. Prices have fallen greatly on these GEN3 units. If I can be of assistance on a price quote or provide any other information, please let me know.

Brian
brian@bbgmarine.com
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/16 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Structure scan technology is now included in all GEN2 and GEN3 touch units. These units can run the LSS2 transducer which gives you side and down scan. The 3D Structure scan is an add on item and gives you enhanced side and down scan plus 3D view. It required a separate module and special 3D transducer. If you don't think you will use the 3D, the go with a bundle that has the GEN3 and LSS2 combination. Prices have fallen greatly on these GEN3 units. If I can be of assistance on a price quote or provide any other information, please let me know.

Brian
brian@bbgmarine.com

If you do get the 3D, do you still need the LSS2 for side and down scan, or does it replace the LSS2?
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/21/16 11:06 PM

The 3D structure replaces your LSS2.

Brian
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/16 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
The 3D structure replaces your LSS2.

Brian

Thank you, I've also heard that the imaging is better with the 3D structure, is that true.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/16 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: parttime
Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
The 3D structure replaces your LSS2.

Brian

Thank you, I've also heard that the imaging is better with the 3D structure, is that true.
Yes sir..the 3D does have enhanced Structure scan (side and down scan) in addition to the 3D..

Brian
Posted By: parttime

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/22/16 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
Originally Posted By: parttime
Originally Posted By: BBGmarine.com
The 3D structure replaces your LSS2.

Brian

Thank you, I've also heard that the imaging is better with the 3D structure, is that true.
Yes sir..the 3D does have enhanced Structure scan (side and down scan) in addition to the 3D..

Brian


Ok, thanks Brian.
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/27/16 12:48 PM

????
This may be silly ,,,,, BUT

DO YOU NEED A TRANSDUCER FOR THE GPS CHART OPTION TO WORK ON A HDI--7 ?

I am wanting to mount a second graph just for GPS mapping on a lake,,,, to load a boat lanes chip to run with.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/27/16 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By: flukeman83
????
This may be silly ,,,,, BUT

DO YOU NEED A TRANSDUCER FOR THE GPS CHART OPTION TO WORK ON A HDI--7 ?

I am wanting to mount a second graph just for GPS mapping on a lake,,,, to load a boat lanes chip to run with.
No, you do not need the transducer if you're wanting to use just the GPS function on your unit.

Brian
Posted By: rebait

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/17 12:57 AM

Buying Lowrance Elite TI9. Currently have Lowrance Global Map 5200C. Can I, using a SD mini and a card adapter move waypoints from old to new without any other software or hardware directly from one unit to the other?
Posted By: Bullet[BS]

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/09/17 02:49 AM

huh
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/11/17 10:35 PM

Yes you can. Just save from the Global on a card and upload to the Ti
Posted By: rebait

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/12/17 03:57 AM

Thanks. After not getting an answer for a few days I emailed Lowrance and got the same answer. Good to know.
Posted By: benp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/17 08:37 PM

hey guys, hummninbrd guy making the switch... Looking to get the elite 9 ti with total scan transducer. my main question is : my 998c hd si humminbird did not have true di it just rnedered the side imaging to make a di image and displayed that.. never really looked good frown .

Will the total scan transducer that i can get with the elite 9 ti do the same thing or can i count on good di images. Also, if not , can i use the Lss 1 or Lss 2 transducer in conjunction with the elite 9 ti or a another option would be the hdi transducer. Or should i scrap the entire idea and cogh uo more for an hds7 or 9 gen 2 or gen 3.... just dont want to have to get the module and extra box is all and would like to save money lol

thx for any help on the matter!!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/17 09:00 PM

I have never seen a totalscan di image but it has its own di crystal, so it should be ok. The lss1 had the best di, but they are gone now and they don't work with the elite series.
Posted By: BLeiva57

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/15/17 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: benp
hey guys, hummninbrd guy making the switch... Looking to get the elite 9 ti with total scan transducer. my main question is : my 998c hd si humminbird did not have true di it just rnedered the side imaging to make a di image and displayed that.. never really looked good frown .

Will the total scan transducer that i can get with the elite 9 ti do the same thing or can i count on good di images. Also, if not , can i use the Lss 1 or Lss 2 transducer in conjunction with the elite 9 ti or a another option would be the hdi transducer. Or should i scrap the entire idea and cogh uo more for an hds7 or 9 gen 2 or gen 3.... just dont want to have to get the module and extra box is all and would like to save money lol

thx for any help on the matter!!
The Totalscan transducer has true Down scan crystals. I've run this transducer and the imaging is the same as the LSS2. Using the LSS2 with the Elite Ti is not an option but the Totalscan works very well. Brian
Posted By: fmclee

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/17 03:56 AM

I have an Lss1 and the box i would let go of very cheap ..........i switched to humminbird .....
Posted By: benp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/17 05:10 PM

fmclee pm sent!
Posted By: benp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/18/17 08:56 PM

Trying to decide between Elite 9 ti and hds gen 3 insight. can i use the hds gen 3 insight with only the total scan transducer and be just as good as i would with the combo of the 83/200khz transducer and the lss-2, i am trying too figure out of the hds 9 gen 3 and adding a transducer is worth the extra 400 bucks or so over the elite 9 ti
Posted By: Creekhead

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/17 01:08 AM

My units HDS Gen 2 and HDS Gen 3 do not seem to be reading my Navionics SD or Boat lanes SD. Back story...I had a Gen 2 0n my console that wasn't working so I sent it to Lowrance, in the meantime I have a HDS Gen 3 I just bought and installed, but I put the SD cards in my Gen 2 on the bow (Boat lanes and Navionics) but the units are seeing them. All I get is the lake with no contours, but my waypoints are showing just fine on both units. Of course the Insight is looking good but as far as Navionics its not showing any depth contours.

If I remember when I got the SD cards, when I put them in the unit, the unit automatically asked me if I want to install (or something like that). Any help is appreciated. I have another Gen 3 on the way but would like to know what is going on with these.


Also, why with the Gen 3's do they only allow for the tiny card?
Posted By: benp

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/30/17 04:35 AM

Update. Just installed the xi5 and the elite 9 ti. it appears there are no software updates for the elite 9 ti. so I am assuming that it will automatically talk to the xi5 off the bat plug and play correct?
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/30/17 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: benp
Update. Just installed the xi5 and the elite 9 ti. it appears there are no software updates for the elite 9 ti. so I am assuming that it will automatically talk to the xi5 off the bat plug and play correct?

Do you have the gateway?
Posted By: LittleGazoo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/17 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Creekhead
My units HDS Gen 2 and HDS Gen 3 do not seem to be reading my Navionics SD or Boat lanes SD. . .All I get is the lake with no contours, but my waypoints are showing just fine on both units.

Lance Vick's Boatlanes is not a map card. It is waypoints and trails. You need to import them into your HDS.
After you've imported Boatlanes you can remove the SD-card and store it in a safe place.

Which Navionics product?

Originally Posted By: Creekhead
If I remember when I got the SD cards, when I put them in the unit, the unit automatically asked me if I want to install (or something like that).

When you insert a map card into a HDS, it will ask if you wish to switch to its map.
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/04/17 01:53 AM

This may have been asked before but I couldn't find it. I have a Hook 7 and was wanting to pre-plan some way points to a investigate on a new (to me) lake. Is there a way to use the maps on a computer and set up way points for the trip?

Found it. One of the post mentioned EasyGPS. I loaded that and then figured out that I had to export the existing way points onto the Micro SD card. I don't know how to use map on EasyGPS but I was able to use another program to find the coordinates and type in each way point. Tedious but relatively effective. We hit 12 pre entered way points and scored fish. Not bad.
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/04/17 02:02 AM

I have a new Hook 7. I would like to pre-plan some way points for a trip to Tawakoni (new to me lake). Is there a way to use the maps and program way points from a computer then load it into the Hook 7 through the SD card?
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/17 08:24 PM

What transducer needs to be selected for a bow mounted Lowrance HDS7 Gen 3? I had to restore my settings and now the sonar and down imaging do not work.
Thanks for the help.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/17 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: MTH82
What transducer needs to be selected for a bow mounted Lowrance HDS7 Gen 3? I had to restore my settings and now the sonar and down imaging do not work.
Thanks for the help.


Depends on what transducer you have. There is normally a small silver tag on the cable near the plug that has the model number on it. If it has both 2D and downscan (no side scan,)it will be the HDI transducer.
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/20/17 11:22 PM

Thank you for the reply. It does not have side scan. What is the full name of the HDI transducer?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/17 04:44 PM

In the Lowrance sonar installation menu it is listed as HDI 83/200 455/800kHz
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/21/17 05:03 PM

Thank you.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/17 07:44 PM

Will the gen 2 sidescan transducer work on a gen 3?
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/04/17 10:00 PM

My Gen 1 Structure Scan transducer works on my Gen 3 HDS 9.
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/17 02:54 AM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish
Will the gen 2 sidescan transducer work on a gen 3?


Yes it will Gravley...
Posted By: fluker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/08/17 02:15 AM

BBG & Brian are great people. We have bought several items from Brian and he ships fast and he usually has the best prices. Give him a call.
Posted By: R.Baker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/17 10:33 PM



Can anyone tell me what's going on with the Lowrance Hook 7 I bought on black Friday last year and have not got it to work since? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: CraZyNOTRT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/17 04:23 AM

looks like your sensitivity is set way to high. try turning it down
the vertical lines looks like your transducer and/or wire is to close to a high current electrical source. Trolling motor wiring near ducer wire? Also try a different battery.
Posted By: PlanoTom

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/17 10:12 PM

I took my Hook 4 out for the second time over the weekend on Ray Roberts. Can someone tell me what I'm seeing? I had the sonar zoomed in at the time.

First pic looks like a "stack" of fish. I didn't think they were bass because everything I've seen says that bass usually don't stack vertically like this.

Second pic looks like a fish on the bottom and a school of baitfish nearby. What do you think?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/17 04:30 PM

Tom,

Looks like you have interpreted the images pretty well to me. Hard to say what kind of fish, though I have seen crappie stack up like that many times.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/16/17 06:21 PM

Need help with 3d structure scan box it will not power on
i have checked my connection 3 times voltmeter says i am getting good power to connector
so i would like to connect my box to Ur plug to make sure there is not something wrong with it that i am not seeing before i ship back to lowrance
which is like a 3 week ordeal
i will be out at lake fork for from Friday 17th to Sunday 19th for the mega bass if someone would be gracious enough to allow me to do this it would be greatly appreciated


thanks
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/17 01:01 AM

Originally Posted By: m.sherman
Need help with 3d structure scan box it will not power on
i have checked my connection 3 times voltmeter says i am getting good power to connector
so i would like to connect my box to Ur plug to make sure there is not something wrong with it that i am not seeing before i ship back to lowrance
which is like a 3 week ordeal
i will be out at lake fork for from Friday 17th to Sunday 19th for the mega bass if someone would be gracious enough to allow me to do this it would be greatly appreciated


thanks


Just to confirm, you have +12 volts to both the red lead and the yellow lead? The yellow lead is the wake-up wire and must have power applied to it in order for the SS module to power up.
Posted By: m.sherman

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/17 02:48 AM

yes it has been working
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/17 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: m.sherman
yes it has been working


I take this to mean that you measured the voltage on both the red and yellow wires and there is +12V on each of them and also a good ground to the unit. If that is the case, and you still have no LED's illuminated on the module (may be dim and difficult to see in sunlight), then the 3D module would appear to be defective.
Posted By: D Miner

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/17 08:54 PM

m.sherman,

I sent you a PM.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/23/17 05:19 PM

My gen 2 hds8 went out so I wound up with an hds9 gen 3.
I got the total scan transducer but haven't installed it yet just using the lss2 box and transducer I have already installed.
Now the question. When I install the new transducer do I just hook it up to the lss2 box and what do I do about the original regular sonar since it's supposed to do all of the functions?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/17 03:45 PM

It connects directly to the StructureScan port on the back of the HDS Gen-3. The Totalscan is XID capable so the HDS should automatically detect it and set the correct transducer model. If not, go into the sonar installation menu and select Totalscan as the transducer type. You can keep your current 2D transducer connected to the HDS but can only use one transducer at a time. If you select your current 2D transducer as the transducer type in the sonar installation menu, it will disable all functions of the Totalscan including down and side imaging. Works both ways, selecting the Totalscan as the transducer type will disable your current 2D transducer. Where did you mount the Totalscan? Will it be in the water while your on plane to provide 2D readings?
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/17 03:49 PM

I have heard it's better to go thru the lss box for a better image?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/17 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish
I have heard it's better to go thru the lss box for a better image?


Interesting, If that is the case, then the LSS module will treat it as an LSS transducer. You will lose the 2D sonar function of it but your current transducer should still function. I am curious to hear how the DS/SS image of the Totalscan compares to the LSS transducer.
Posted By: Badbasser

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/27/17 11:55 PM

Just purchased a new 2017 Skeeter ZX200 with standard set up Elite 7TI at the console and bow. It has the side/downscan transducer on the stern, and supposedly another transducer in the hull for depth readings while on plane. The problem is I am not getting a depth reading once I get on plane. Additionally, the bow mount does not give side/downscan readouts at any time. Did they forget to hook something up or am I missing something in my settings? Thanks!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 01:51 PM

Once you get on plane you are getting air between the "shoot through the hull ducer" and the water. If you're losing the bottom over 50mph then that's fairly normal. If you lose it at 20mph then the ducer is not installed correctly.


The front graph has how many transducers? If it just has 1 external it might be a hdi, which gives down & 2d only. If you're plugged into the us2 ducer from the minnkota, then it's 2d only. If it's the totalscan ducer (big long sucker) then you have it on the wrong setting.
Posted By: Badbasser

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 02:52 PM

The depth reading drops off as soon as I'm on plane (around 20), so I guess I'll see if the dealer can fix that.

As I understand it, the front unit is hooked up to the Minn-Kota for sonar, but should work with the Totalscan transducer when using side/down image. Screen stays mostly blank if I try to use it that way.
Don't know if it is connected by cable or if its supposed to work through Bluetooth. Either way, its confusing.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 03:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Badbasser
The depth reading drops off as soon as I'm on plane (around 20), so I guess I'll see if the dealer can fix that.

As I understand it, the front unit is hooked up to the Minn-Kota for sonar, but should work with the Totalscan transducer when using side/down image. Screen stays mostly blank if I try to use it that way.
Don't know if it is connected by cable or if its supposed to work through Bluetooth. Either way, its confusing.


So do you have a totalscan on the trolling motor too? Or is the totalscan on the transom? If you have the totalscan on the trolling motor then you need to ONLY use it. If you have the totalscan on the transom then you cannot share its si/di because there are no Ethernet ports on the elite models. Your dealership sounds like they are idiots or you are not understanding what they said??? I think you might be confused, check what transducers you really have and where they are, then report back. You can't have 2 2d sonar ducers working on 1 graph.


Put it this way, if you have a totalscan on the jackplate/transom then that is your issue with losing bottom on plane. It is designed for slow boats, idling & trolling motors. You can't have it and a shoot thru hull working at the same time.
Posted By: Badbasser

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 03:19 PM

Totalscan is only on the transom. If that won't work with the front graph, its more likely that I heard what I wanted to hear rather than what I was told. I'll be taking the boat back for some warranty items in a few weeks, so I'll see if they can explain it all better. I've read the installation manual, the quickstart quide, and the operating manual, and also checked out the youtube videos, but none of them really explains it very well. I appreciate your response.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 03:20 PM

I added a line to my comment above that you didnt see, read that line and ask them what they can do to solve your issue.
Posted By: Badbasser

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/28/17 03:50 PM

will do. Thanks.
Posted By: MTH82

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/17 08:29 PM

Is there anyone around the Athens area that can work on an HDS7 Gen 3? I think it may be the transducer, but can't seem to figure it out. I would prefer to take my boat to someone and have them figure it out. Any recommendations would be helpful. Thank you.
Posted By: Capt Craig

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/17 05:19 PM

I am frustrated with the LACK of information Lowrance puts in the manuals. I just finished reading the HDS 9 Gen 3 manual in order to help an angler with his unit.

Lowrance didn't list a single frequency for their sonar nor the imaging in the manual. No explanation of CHIRP or what it does or how if functions.

No examples of the sonar frequency cones and how each affects the view. No illustration showing the overlap of frequencies.

Who ever is writing their manuals needs to take a look at a Humminbird Helix manual.
Posted By: 10lberfork

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/17 12:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Capt Craig
I am frustrated with the LACK of information Lowrance puts in the manuals. I just finished reading the HDS 9 Gen 3 manual in order to help an angler with his unit.

Lowrance didn't list a single frequency for their sonar nor the imaging in the manual. No explanation of CHIRP or what it does or how if functions.

No examples of the sonar frequency cones and how each affects the view. No illustration showing the overlap of frequencies.

Who ever is writing their manuals needs to take a look at a Humminbird Helix manual.
who needs a manual nowdays just google it videos pop up to most questions
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/17 11:43 AM

I recently had to upgrade from a gen 2 hds8 to a gen 3 hds9. Unit is good but it seems like the screen is darker than what I am used too. Is that normal for these units?
Posted By: Capt Craig

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/17 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: 10lberfork
Originally Posted By: Capt Craig
I am frustrated with the LACK of information Lowrance puts in the manuals. I just finished reading the HDS 9 Gen 3 manual in order to help an angler with his unit.

Lowrance didn't list a single frequency for their sonar nor the imaging in the manual. No explanation of CHIRP or what it does or how if functions.

No examples of the sonar frequency cones and how each affects the view. No illustration showing the overlap of frequencies.

Who ever is writing their manuals needs to take a look at a Humminbird Helix manual.
who needs a manual now days just google it videos pop up to most questions


Actually everyone could benefit from a quality manual. Videos are great for "how to" that involve an install or such. But for technical questions and explanations of frequencies, there is no benefit to have a guy on a video read to a Lowrance owner.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/13/17 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish
I recently had to upgrade from a gen 2 hds8 to a gen 3 hds9. Unit is good but it seems like the screen is darker than what I am used too. Is that normal for these units?


I know that my Gen-2 HDS-9 is not as bright/vibrant as my Gen-2 HDS-8 but I thought the Gen-3 screens were supposed to be better. I like the aspect ratio and resolution on my HDS-8 beter than the 9 but the touch screen on the 9 sure is handy.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/14/17 12:40 AM

Every body says the gen3 is the brightest yet. Press the power button a few times and make sure it's on full brightness.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/17/17 11:34 AM

I have raised the brightness bar several times, it doesn't help
Posted By: tin man 55

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/01/17 05:05 PM

I have a gen3 7" and 9"; both are plenty bright without turning them up all the way.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/02/17 08:44 PM

If am using an Xi5 with a HDS gen 3 , and navigate to a waypoint, and use the
anchor function on the HDS , which gps will the rules the XI5 ?

Is it my imagination or does the xi5 work better off the handheld remote to
hold a spot , than off a waypoint on the graph. ?

Third , if it is working off the HDS, will the external gps antenna make it hold closer ?

thanks
MO
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/05/17 05:11 PM

Mo, sent you a PM.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/17 11:20 AM

Thanks Jimmy ,
Mo
Posted By: Ajram

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/30/17 07:20 PM

I have a lowrance spotlight scan and I was wondering how to sell it. It's brand new, it not compatible with the stuff I have. Any help would be appreciated. [img:center]http://[/img]
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/31/17 01:20 AM

You won't get much for it, you'd be better off using it for sonar and downscan only. It was the most worthless item lowrance ever made.
Posted By: pierrat

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/06/17 01:17 AM

What is the difference between a total scan transducer and a structure scan transducer if any on a HDS7
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/06/17 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: pierrat
What is the difference between a total scan transducer and a structure scan transducer if any on a HDS7


Totalscan= 2D, Side Scan and Down Scan
LSS= Side Scan and Down Scan.

The HDS unit must be at least a GEN-3 unit in order to use Totalscan.
Posted By: pierrat

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/06/17 04:54 PM

Not looking to start a argument or war But I had a garmin 441 S that died on me finally.I am looking to replace it With a Chart plotter that does side scan also I am torn between an HDS Lowrance and a garmin 74sv. Are there any links that I can go to to compare the 2 side-by-side As far as options and clarity ?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/06/17 10:54 PM

Maybe someplace like BassPro or Cabelas is about the only place where I can imagine you could compare them.
Posted By: Deja vue

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/08/17 12:08 AM

I was wondering if anyone on here is using the Airmar P66 transducer on a gen 3, and if so how does it compare with the HST-WSBL.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/08/17 03:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Deja vue
I was wondering if anyone on here is using the Airmar P66 transducer on a gen 3, and if so how does it compare with the HST-WSBL.



It seems that the TM150M gets the nod when I read about true chirpers. You might ask over on BBC if nobody else responds.
Posted By: edwardphoto

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/18/17 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Mo
If am using an Xi5 with a HDS gen 3 , and navigate to a waypoint, and use the
anchor function on the HDS , which gps will the rules the XI5 ?

Is it my imagination or does the xi5 work better off the handheld remote to
hold a spot , than off a waypoint on the graph. ?

Third , if it is working off the HDS, will the external gps antenna make it hold closer ?

thanks
MO


I've been wondering about this as well.... When I mark a spot on my console unit and then ask the xi5 to anchor on that particular waypoint. Will it use the GPS located inside the trolling motor or use the point one that is on the back of my boat?
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/17 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: edwardphoto


I've been wondering about this as well.... When I mark a spot on my console unit and then ask the xi5 to anchor on that particular waypoint. Will it use the GPS located inside the trolling motor or use the point one that is on the back of my boat?


Read this thread.
Posted By: edwardphoto

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/20/17 06:10 PM

Thanks!
Posted By: Fisherman110

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/17 01:15 AM

Are the lowrace ti's any good. I saw that they are cheaper but I don't know if they are any better
Posted By: rebait

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/08/17 02:18 AM

I have had mine a few months. I am very happy. Quite a upgrade for me lots of bang for the buck. Fresh water and salt water general use. I am learning the side imaging. I am not that good at using it yet but am enjoying learning. It has every thing I need.
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/17 01:37 AM

New update for the HDS Carbon is now available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNM4x9e0MY
Posted By: leanin post

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/13/17 07:08 PM

ANYBODY know what these are

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/12462448/fish_on_my_graph#Post12462448
Posted By: tcct

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/17 12:42 AM

OK here's one....I have 2 lowrance elite 5's..one for split screen ds/sonar and one for gps...now I want to install a hb helix 7 si gen2 for si while I run the elites for di/sonar and gps...any interference problems running these two at the same time...thx...cross posting on hb page
Posted By: Wayne P.

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/19/17 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By: tcct
OK here's one....I have 2 lowrance elite 5's..one for split screen ds/sonar and one for gps...now I want to install a hb helix 7 si gen2 for si while I run the elites for di/sonar and gps...any interference problems running these two at the same time...thx...cross posting on hb page


Cross-talk discussed on the HB post.
Posted By: Ed-n-eddy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/17 05:01 AM

Alright, Jim Sr kind of shamed me into asking for some help. I picked up a used HDS12 Gen3, and bought a new Totalscan transducer. I'm very confident the PO was running a much more sophisticated setup that just a Totalscan transducer. The symptom is that the transducer and display aren't talking yet and the books don't help me much in describing what the system settings need to be to get me going. Reminds me of building my own computer before plug-and-play but without installation instructions.
I don't imagine this is a new question, but I'm getting older by the minute and reading a hundred pages of previous posts is going to take a lot of time. Sort of works against why we use sonar in the first place. If the answer is in an older post, let me know the number or who posted it, I think I can work with that. Otherwise, can someone help me work through the system settings I need?
Thanks all,
ed
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/17 07:55 AM

The original complex setup may have had that unit displaying the data from a transducer on another unit in the boat. In that case, I believe the Source selection in the unit settings is "Network". But, you don't have a network, so not getting any data to display.

Since you are setting up a basic system, why not return the unit settings to factory default? That will certainly change your sonar source selection to what you have - basic. "Restore factory (default) settings" does not uninstall unit updates. You should be able to find this in your manual. Download the pdf, and you can even search for keywords to keep from having to read as much.

You need to go into settings to insure that the data source is "This Unit". Without that, you'll get nowhere. After that, insure that the totalscan transducer has been detected (probably not). If not, look under "transducer" and select it. You should learn how to do this from your operator manual.

As to not wanting to read your manual, I will tell you that one of the best investments you can make is spend time reading your G3 manual cover to cover MORE THAN ONCE. I always do this with every new unit I get, and I often spend hours playing with the unit at home, or sitting in the boat in the garage. I go through every menu choice to look at the options and understand what they are for. Until this is done, any operator is going to experience periods of disgust with the unit, and is the primary reason for dissatisfaction with high tech electronics on fishing boats.....
Posted By: Ed-n-eddy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/17 02:17 PM

Lol, reading the manual isn’t a problem. Comprehending it, that’s the rub. While I found the process elsewhere on the web, I couldn’t manage to find how to do a factory reset in the book.
Stir in codes instead of using plain language to describe the transducer drivers adds to the entertainment.
Part of the problem is me. I do technical writing (among other things) and have a unrelated lexicon to deal with.
Thanks,
ed
Posted By: Fishbonz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/31/17 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Ed-n-eddy
Alright, Jim Sr kind of shamed me into asking for some help. I picked up a used HDS12 Gen3, and bought a new Totalscan transducer. I'm very confident the PO was running a much more sophisticated setup that just a Totalscan transducer. The symptom is that the transducer and display aren't talking yet and the books don't help me much in describing what the system settings need to be to get me going. Reminds me of building my own computer before plug-and-play but without installation instructions.
I don't imagine this is a new question, but I'm getting older by the minute and reading a hundred pages of previous posts is going to take a lot of time. Sort of works against why we use sonar in the first place. If the answer is in an older post, let me know the number or who posted it, I think I can work with that. Otherwise, can someone help me work through the system settings I need?
Thanks all,
ed
Did you know you could go to the Lowrance website and click on support for help?They have techs that will help you.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/01/17 01:59 AM

I imagine the problem is in the transducer installation setup selection. Pick the wrong transducer and it won’t work properly.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/01/17 11:25 AM

grout-scout, I'm back again at least for a while.....already warned him to check that setting, but didn't hear if he did....
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/01/17 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
grout-scout, I'm back again at least for a while.....already warned him to check that setting, but didn't hear if he did....


Yes sir, someone should prob give him very direct instructions on how to find that menu though. Someone that just turns the graph on & off will never figure it out.
Posted By: Ed-n-eddy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/03/17 05:44 AM

na, don't worry about it.
Posted By: tgravley aka lewisvillecatfish

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/17 01:06 AM

Had a two month old HDS 9 gen 3 just up and quit this morning. Running across the lake and just blacked out. Hooked it up to another boat and a display at West Marine and it still wouldn’t fire up so I know it’s not my electrical system. Anybody else had this happen?
Posted By: WAWI

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/20/17 06:48 PM

All right, I thinking its time to upgrade. I am currently running a gen 1 8, a gen 2 8 and lss 1.I am cheap so carbon is out. Im thinking gen3 7 or 9 on bow, and gen3 9 at console with total scan, plus point 1. does total scan replace all my current transducers in the back of boat? (i use mminkota buit in for front trolling motor.) I will be networking them. Can the total scan transduecer be flush mounted on bottom of hull like my lss 1 is? Thoughts? Suggestions? Am i missing something?
Posted By: Ed-n-eddy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/18 01:03 AM

What are the recommendations for nav charts for my HDS-12 Gen3? Thirteen compatible products, from five suppliers, is more than I can sort through. I do most of my fishing here in north Texas but may take a trip for some light bay fishing (may, but don't bet on it). I'm also really new to the lakes up here.
Thanks,
ed
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/18 09:38 PM

Hello, looking for some help here.

I recently purchased/upgraded to HDS GEN 3 Units having some issues importing files/Lance Vick boat Lanes. I've got everything hooked up and running and seems I have everything hooked up correctly.

1. HDS 12" at console, 9" at bow.
2. Ethernet
3. NMEA 2000
4. 3D structure scan

When I powered everything up the unit immediately proposed software updates, which I did (hooked up to hot spot, inserted SD card, and updated). I have a Lance Vik Boat Lanes chip that gives me boat lanes for Lake Fork, Sam Rayburn, and Toledo Bend and when I went to import the data the unit aborted each time saying that there was not enough free space to do so. This is weird because my GEN 2 allowed me with no problems and the GEN 3 in new, with no way points, trails, or anything saved to the free space/hard drive. So I'm hoping you can help me understand why, how to understand what could be taking up my "free space", how to manage the "free space", or if there is something I'm missing.

Any help would be appreciated.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/16/18 06:48 PM

Originally Posted By: JBranham
Hello, looking for some help here.

I recently purchased/upgraded to HDS GEN 3 Units having some issues importing files/Lance Vick boat Lanes. I've got everything hooked up and running and seems I have everything hooked up correctly.

1. HDS 12" at console, 9" at bow.
2. Ethernet
3. NMEA 2000
4. 3D structure scan

When I powered everything up the unit immediately proposed software updates, which I did (hooked up to hot spot, inserted SD card, and updated). I have a Lance Vik Boat Lanes chip that gives me boat lanes for Lake Fork, Sam Rayburn, and Toledo Bend and when I went to import the data the unit aborted each time saying that there was not enough free space to do so. This is weird because my GEN 2 allowed me with no problems and the GEN 3 in new, with no way points, trails, or anything saved to the free space/hard drive. So I'm hoping you can help me understand why, how to understand what could be taking up my "free space", how to manage the "free space", or if there is something I'm missing.

Any help would be appreciated.


To determine the free space on your unit, which seems you have already done, Go to Main Menu, (button at top). Scroll (left side) touch FILES, then touch Wpts, Routes, Trails... This will tell you how much Used space and Free space you have. Pay attention to the items labeled Deleted Wpts and Deleted Routes. If huge or if any, simply touch Purge to get rid of them. This frees up space. Purge will not delete any active wpts/routes/trails in your unit. IMO, the new unit shouldn't have anything there.

If you still have the G2, I would delete (save beforehand if needed) all wpts/routes/trails. Import the Boat Lanes. Then save as a .gpx file and try to Import to the G3.

If you want to talk thru it, PM number to call and we'll discuss. It's difficult to try to solve typing as it could be many things.
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/18/18 03:15 PM

Jimmy,

Thanks for the information. I did talke with a Lowrance tech and the solution seemed to be a hard reset. The import took after doing this. The unit is brand new and does not have any waypoint or anything saved to the free space, and I did all the updates, which is why I didn’t understand the message.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/19/18 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: JBranham
Jimmy,

Thanks for the information. I did talke with a Lowrance tech and the solution seemed to be a hard reset. The import took after doing this. The unit is brand new and does not have any waypoint or anything saved to the free space, and I did all the updates, which is why I didn’t understand the message.

Good for you. Lowrance really likes the 'hard reset' solution. I've seen some boxes of newer units that have the SW version on the outside of the box. Lowrance really should have instructions clearly stated and easily seen to have the purchaser check for the current version online vs. what is on the box and to update if different before doing anything else. If troubles ensue, then to soft reset, then hard reset if necessary.

As you move forward, be aware, which you probably are, a hard reset will delete wpts., etc. So in the future, as the unit is used and wpts are stored, be sure to save your wpts/trails, etc. to a card before performing a hard reset. I even do it for a soft reset in case the unit locks up and a hard reset is the only remedy.
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/19/18 06:49 PM

Yes, I was aware of what comes along with the hard reset. Luckily for me the unit is brand new so there was no other data saved yet.

But yes, I'm going to start periodically saving to a card just incase...

I know on my GEN 2, on a lake I run regularly, that my trails just disappeared one day and I couldn't find them anywhere so I had to start over. I don't really understand it but if I had not been to a lake in a while and I went back all my trails no longer existed.... any reason as to this?

Thanks again,
Jason
Posted By: sae

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/05/18 11:24 PM

EX 15 help


my bud has an x 15 and it shows no temp or depth. Sonar works fine. what wrong an where to get the right fix.
Thank you .
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/18 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: sae
EX 15 help


my bud has an x 15 and it shows no temp or depth. Sonar works fine. what wrong an where to get the right fix.
Thank you .


sounds like transducer is toast- or not plugged in.
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/18 03:59 PM

so, thought the NOS59 Fish Reveal software update for elite ti,gen 3 and carbon was supposed to go live on the 10th ????
Posted By: Wayne P.

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/18 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: SNAKEBIT
so, thought the NOS59 Fish Reveal software update for elite ti,gen 3 and carbon was supposed to go live on the 10th ????


You didn't get the memo that it was delayed until the 14th?
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/18 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Wayne P.
Originally Posted By: SNAKEBIT
so, thought the NOS59 Fish Reveal software update for elite ti,gen 3 and carbon was supposed to go live on the 10th ????


You didn't get the memo that it was delayed until the 14th?


HAHA!!! nope! they must not like me!! LOL !!!
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/18 01:36 AM

Does the Motorguide xi5 paired with a Lowrance Carbon have the capability to follow contour lines on the graph?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/18 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: HappyNest
Does the Motorguide xi5 paired with a Lowrance Carbon have the capability to follow contour lines on the graph?


No. You can create routes and follow that but not contour lines.
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/18 06:11 AM

I picked up my boat Thursday. It had the xi5 and Carbon installed and connected at Bass Pro. I found the fish revel update for the carbon and placed the file on the chip inserted it into the carbon and updated. I connected the carbon to the web and completed a 3D update. I took it to the lake Friday and the Carbon says "no autopilot computer" and will not control the Motor-Guide xi5. I have added all the updates it says I need. Any ideas on why the carbon don't see the trolling motor? Does anyone know who I may be able to take it to in NE Texas to diagnose what the problem is?
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/17/18 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: HappyNest
I picked up my boat Thursday. It had the xi5 and Carbon installed and connected at Bass Pro. I found the fish revel update for the carbon and placed the file on the chip inserted it into the carbon and updated. I connected the carbon to the web and completed a 3D update. I took it to the lake Friday and the Carbon says "no autopilot computer" and will not control the Motor-Guide xi5. I have added all the updates it says I need. Any ideas on why the carbon don't see the trolling motor? Does anyone know who I may be able to take it to in NE Texas to diagnose what the problem is?

Check this:
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/18 12:42 AM

Yes the autopilot was/is selected to the “on” position.
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/18/18 07:34 PM

Lowrance communications with Motorguide xi5. The autopilot was active selected on. The network sees the motor. I’m not sure if it is a lowrance or Motorguide problem. The only software updates were 3D StructureScan and the new Fish Revel. I feel like it is a software issue between the two. I never saw an update dialogue box about the trolling motor but assume Bass Pro took care of the update or it came preinstalled. I’m not sure how to check for that.
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/20/18 03:54 PM

Anyone had the chance to get out on the water with the new Fish reveal software yet? Curious as to thoughts and maybe some screen shots.

I've updated my units but haven't had the chance to get out to use it yet.
Posted By: fordnut

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/18 01:18 AM

Having a problem with new Elite 9ti. I I installed the newest update and attempted to import the waypoints I backed up from my LMS-522 and getting an Import Failed Error parsing waypoints. The .usr fill from the LMS-522 is a rev 3.0. Suggestions appreciated.
Posted By: markson

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/18 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: JBranham
Anyone had the chance to get out on the water with the new Fish reveal software yet? Curious as to thoughts and maybe some screen shots.

I've updated my units but haven't had the chance to get out to use it yet.


FishReveal Success...I used it today for the first time and it showed me fish in the upper half of the weeds. That enabled me to key in on specific isolated weed beds that had fish vs the ones that showed no fish. The best weed bed produced 2 over 4 lbs, 6 over 3 lbs and 1 over 8 lbs, all on consecutive casts. I think the other weed beds may have had fish but they were buried in the bottom, while the ones that showed fish indicated that they were active and looking to feed.

Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/18 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: 2015fordnut
Having a problem with new Elite 9ti. I I installed the newest update and attempted to import the waypoints I backed up from my LMS-522 and getting an Import Failed Error parsing waypoints. The .usr fill from the LMS-522 is a rev 3.0. Suggestions appreciated.

Presuming you have the 522 available, I would save the wpts in a .gpx file and then import to the new unit. Many wpt symbols will not translate to the .usr icons. This will also save your trails.

I have all HDS units and even going from the Gen 3 to Gen 2 or vice versa using .usr extension doesn't always allow for importation. For instance, if I save wpts/trails on the G3 to .usr V5 (because G2 doesn't allow for V6) to the G2, it won't import. But if I save .usr V5 on the G2 and import to the G3, it works. Ever since Lowrance went proprietary with the .usr format, it has been troubling. Lowrance doesn't seem to care much about the issues of their different versions of .usr files cause - it is an afterthought to them.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/18 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: markson
Originally Posted By: JBranham
Anyone had the chance to get out on the water with the new Fish reveal software yet? Curious as to thoughts and maybe some screen shots.

I've updated my units but haven't had the chance to get out to use it yet.


FishReveal Success...I used it today for the first time and it showed me fish in the upper half of the weeds. That enabled me to key in on specific isolated weed beds that had fish vs the ones that showed no fish. The best weed bed produced 2 over 4 lbs, 6 over 3 lbs and 1 over 8 lbs, all on consecutive casts. I think the other weed beds may have had fish but they were buried in the bottom, while the ones that showed fish indicated that they were active and looking to feed.

Thanks for giving us an 'in use' report.
Posted By: fordnut

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/21/18 07:58 PM

I'll try that thanks
Posted By: fordnut

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/22/18 01:05 AM

UJC tried to do a save on the 522 and there is no way to change from a .usr to a .gpx format. It’s threre a coversion procedure? never mind I downloaded GPSBabel and converted it.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/22/18 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: 2015fordnut
UJC tried to do a save on the 522 and there is no way to change from a .usr to a .gpx format. It’s threre a coversion procedure? never mind I downloaded GPSBabel and converted it.



Glad you got it done. FYI - I use to have a 522 (a great little unit too) and it had .gpx as an option to save - wasn't that intuitive menu wise, but it was there.
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/22/18 09:53 PM

Thanks for the update! Can't wait to try it out this weekend.

By the way, nice boat!







Originally Posted By: markson
Originally Posted By: JBranham
Anyone had the chance to get out on the water with the new Fish reveal software yet? Curious as to thoughts and maybe some screen shots.

I've updated my units but haven't had the chance to get out to use it yet.


FishReveal Success...I used it today for the first time and it showed me fish in the upper half of the weeds. That enabled me to key in on specific isolated weed beds that had fish vs the ones that showed no fish. The best weed bed produced 2 over 4 lbs, 6 over 3 lbs and 1 over 8 lbs, all on consecutive casts. I think the other weed beds may have had fish but they were buried in the bottom, while the ones that showed fish indicated that they were active and looking to feed.


Posted By: fordnut

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/18 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: UJC
Originally Posted By: 2015fordnut
UJC tried to do a save on the 522 and there is no way to change from a .usr to a .gpx format. It’s threre a coversion procedure? never mind I downloaded GPSBabel and converted it.



Glad you got it done. FYI - I use to have a 522 (a great little unit too) and it had .gpx as an option to save - wasn't that intuitive menu wise, but it was there.


Well that didn’t work either can’t import the gpx. Still haven’t figured out how to save as a gpx on the 522. I even did an export as a version 2 and still getting parsing error.
Posted By: fordnut

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/18 11:00 PM

Got it to working!!!!!!!
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/18 08:57 PM

For some unknown reason both of my Lowrance graphs won't power on. I checked them on a friend's boat and they worked fine. They are wired independently. The fuses are intact and I have 13 volts of power to their plugs. Both of the grounds seem to be intact. I won't be able to look into it anymore until I get off work on Tuesday and I can't stop wondering what else it could be. Any ideas?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/18 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Txmedic033
For some unknown reason both of my Lowrance graphs won't power on. I checked them on a friend's boat and they worked fine. They are wired independently. The fuses are intact and I have 13 volts of power to their plugs. Both of the grounds seem to be intact. I won't be able to look into it anymore until I get off work on Tuesday and I can't stop wondering what else it could be. Any ideas?


Here’s something crazy, my brother in law is having the exact same problem! Tried his graph in my boat and it works great, I gave him a used power plug that I had laying around to try. He has power to the plug and just like before it won’t power up. I’m guessing a weak ground, but I’m kind of clueless right now.
Posted By: Txmedic033

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/18 08:03 PM

I pulled new wires and they work great now. I can't find anything wrong with the wires, but the ground must have a bad spot so they went in the trash. Now it's time to go fishing and see what is gonna stop working next!
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/03/18 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Txmedic033
I pulled new wires and they work great now. I can't find anything wrong with the wires, but the ground must have a bad spot so they went in the trash. Now it's time to go fishing and see what is gonna stop working next!
First, I'm glad you got it fixed. Secondly, for reporting back. I got a feeling, your fix is going to help others sooner or later.
Posted By: Royce Sanders jr

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/17/18 12:08 PM

I have a Lowrance cable M-0036, what would I use it for? I got in a package deal one unit is a chartplotter 7300 and the other is a x510c.
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/18 05:00 PM

.... Totalscan transducer for HDS 12 Gen 3 will not read depths with the boat on plane after 35mph
???
positioned where all the Lowrance video instructions say to position the TD ......
???
any suggestions ?
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/18 08:59 PM

Bow unit question
what functions on a Lowrance unit are supported by the internal transducer on an MK Ulterra ? the US2......
what Lowrance unit is compatible with the MK US2
Posted By: fagin007

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/18 12:43 PM

Went out on Saturday morning on Lavon to fish and was pretty windy and hit a few bumps along the way and my side scan stopped working the screen just went almost black but regular sonar and mapping worked fine. I was about to crappie fish and nothing would work with side scan or down scan imagining on my HDS7 GEN3 device. I googled stuff on my phone and tried resetting the device but nothing worked. I went to the front of the boat and was about to just fish without it when I happened to look at the back of the unit and the dang side scan cable had come loose I guess when I went through the bumpy waves on the way out. Attached the cable back to the unit and I was back in action!!! Hope this helps someone else who may see this one day!!!
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/25/18 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: fagin007
Went out on Saturday morning on Lavon to fish and was pretty windy and hit a few bumps along the way and my side scan stopped working the screen just went almost black but regular sonar and mapping worked fine. I was about to crappie fish and nothing would work with side scan or down scan imagining on my HDS7 GEN3 device. I googled stuff on my phone and tried resetting the device but nothing worked. I went to the front of the boat and was about to just fish without it when I happened to look at the back of the unit and the dang side scan cable had come loose I guess when I went through the bumpy waves on the way out. Attached the cable back to the unit and I was back in action!!! Hope this helps someone else who may see this one day!!!


You didn't mention what transducer is used but if it is the totalscan, then this will happen as the connector from the cable to the unit is a 'pitch' to align. I had this happened in a tournament and my partner asked if I had plugged it in. Since it was working and then wasn't I said of course I connected it but I'll check anyway - it was not properly seated - just like you.
Posted By: timbertoes

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/07/18 03:20 PM

Not sure how easy this question is to answer, but here goes..

about to buy a boat that :
1. is wired for HDS Gen3. has hds7 gen 3 total scan in console
2. I will need to buy a FF for the Bow, to connect to existing trolling motor xducer.

are any other Lowrance FF compatible with the xducer and power connectors used on HDS gen 3 ?

don't want to spend much on the Bow FF, a 5" is fine. and just as important, I'll use the same head unit on my Kayak - hence 5" max.

thanks!

Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/07/18 10:33 PM

Yes all power cables are the same, but the transducer depends on what style it is. Do you know which one is on there?
Posted By: timbertoes

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/18 01:40 AM

Not yet.. it will be a week or so before I get the boat.
He had a HDS9 gen 3 on the bow.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/18 04:17 AM

So he’s keeping the 9? Most transducers will be compatible, but there’s a few exceptions with older graphs and newer transducers. But the way graphs drop in price, you’ll be able to find something that’ll work with it, just post back when you know what it has on the tm.
Posted By: timbertoes

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/08/18 06:32 PM

He is keeping it.. thats ok, it would raise the price too much, and I cant put a 9" on my yak !
ok thanks!
Posted By: secjcc

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/28/18 10:47 PM

I have a Lowrance Hook 7 purchased in March.
It does not have side scan. Can I add side scan to this unit or am I going to need a new unit?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/18 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: secjcc
I have a Lowrance Hook 7 purchased in March.
It does not have side scan. Can I add side scan to this unit or am I going to need a new unit?


The Hook-7 and Hook2-7 SplitShot are only capable of 2D and down scan. The Hook2-7 Tripleshot is capable of 2D, Down and side scan. No way to add sidescan to the Hook-7 or Hook2-7 SplitShot.
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/18 02:16 AM

Will the Hook2 9 tripleshot be compatible with FishReveal?
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/18 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Will the Hook2 9 tripleshot be compatible with FishReveal?


It is compatible with Elite Ti, HDS Carbon, and Gen3, no mention of the Hook2 series.
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/30/18 01:02 PM

My Lowrance HDS Carbon came with Insight Genesis. Can anyone give me ideas on sending uploads to Insight Genesis? I try to upload and I can't get through the first map before the program stops loading. I am using a PC computer. I have made sure the computer remains on. Ensured the internet and router continue to function properly. Stopped security during the download. Used three different browsers including Chrome. The upload typically stops at 33.6% but has gone to 35%. Any other ideas on what to try?
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/30/18 07:49 PM

New to Forum--meant to post this on this thread but accidentally started new Lowrance thread--sorry. This concerns whether there's an issue with networking HDS units of different generation--specifically gen 3 and gen2 touch-Here's my [edited] original post:

Recently purchased HDS12 Gen3 w/ Totalscan transducer for console and moved HDS7 Gen2 Touch to the bow and trolling motor which has built-in US2 transducer--connected units by Ethernet--turned networking on for both--i want to view split screen sonar on both units (or either alone) using both transducers so i can see front and back at same time--I named each of the HDS devices--but when i select the source on each unit it changes the source for both --to the source i'm selecting at that moment--same thing if i try selecting using just the split screen on the Gen3. Note--i had selected 200KHz for the trolling motor transducer and High Chirp for the Totalscan--and oddly enough in the split screen, although the display says i'm using the same source for both screens, it is displaying (in the lower left corner of each) that one is on 200KHz and the other on High Chirp. So is this a glitch and am i actually getting a split screen view of both transducers like i want or is there a glitch in the frequency being displayed ? Both sides of the split screens seem to be displaying the same thing so i have doubts i'm getting a view of both transducers. Wondering if maybe there's a software incompatibility between the 2 generations--Any help appreciated
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/18 02:39 PM

What you are attempting to do is available when you have the units in the "Live Network Sonar" mode. Unfortunately all units on the network must be Gen3 or Carbons in order to do so, otherwise they will all run in "Legacy" mode.
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/18 03:02 PM

OK thanks MAK747--so there is a problem networking Gen2Touch with Gen3--not sure what "Legacy" mode is but sounds like it prevents the Gen3 from doing its thing. Kind of irritating that Lowrance hasn't fixed this--sounds like a software issue but they're trying to force you to upgrade? Still don't understand why the split screen is showing different frequencies but same source transducer...
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/31/18 03:41 PM

Live Network Sonar was a feature that was added to the GEN3/Carbon units in software version 4.5. One of the criteria to use it is that all units on the network need to be GEN3 or higher. Legacy mode is the way that the units all behaved prior to this enhancement, meaning that you can view any transducer from any unit but only one on the screen at a time. If you can find Tech Bulletin TB-93570/May 10, 2017, it describes the enhancement. You can display two different frequencies from the same transducer on split screen such as 83Khz on one side and 200Khz on the other. I presume that chirp could also be on one of the panels.
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 01:46 PM

Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 04:13 PM

Totalscan Question:

I have the TS mounted on the Trolling Motor. Settings have the TS as the transducer. Why are the depth readings on a split screen different? It can be from 1' to almost 2' difference between DI and 2D. I'm puzzled. Also, offset settings are zero. Thanks.
Posted By: EDO

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 09:38 PM

Im installing a HDS g3 on bow and a Carbon on console, both 12" units. Total scan transducer on trolling motor and structure scan 3d transducer plus a 2d/200khz pod transducer on back of boat. I have the graphs installed and I was contemplating installing and connecting all the wires myself. Couple of questions I have that TFF may be able to assist with.

NEMA 2000 power supply. manual says "do not connect power cables to same terminals as engine start battery or other high current devices" So don't connect NEMA 2000 power to cranking battery?

NEMA power supply should be connected to a key on power supply. I can find this under the console but all accessories are powered off cranking battery. Are they saying just don't connect to cranking battery at battery terminals where starter is connected?

Similar question for power supply to 3d module and two units.

Is it best to run dedicated power supply/wires from battery to graphs and module and if so how would I get that to be
on key on circuit.
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.


Yes you can view all four if you set up a 4 split screen
83 and 200 on sonar and 455 and 800 on di and si

Cannot do it with the SS3D
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 10:16 PM

Originally Posted By: EDO
Im installing a HDS g3 on bow and a Carbon on console, both 12" units. Total scan transducer on trolling motor and structure scan 3d transducer plus a 2d/200khz pod transducer on back of boat. I have the graphs installed and I was contemplating installing and connecting all the wires myself. Couple of questions I have that TFF may be able to assist with.

NEMA 2000 power supply. manual says "do not connect power cables to same terminals as engine start battery or other high current devices" So don't connect NEMA 2000 power to cranking battery?

NEMA power supply should be connected to a key on power supply. I can find this under the console but all accessories are powered off cranking battery. Are they saying just don't connect to cranking battery at battery terminals where starter is connected?

Similar question for power supply to 3d module and two units.

Is it best to run dedicated power supply/wires from battery to graphs and module and if so how would I get that to be
on key on circuit.




If you are only conecting the two units I don’t think you need the NEMA 2000 system. Just connect the two units together with an eithernet cable.
Posted By: EDO

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/01/18 10:50 PM

I'm also connecting a Point one heading sensor
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/02/18 01:01 AM

The point 1 is nema so you will need it as well as the ethernet.
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/02/18 02:51 PM

Thanks Dwight Hardy--can i set up a 4 split with any combination of frequencies i want? e.g. low chirp, high chirp, 83 & 200 ? that might be interesting to see which gives best detail on our lake...
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/02/18 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Thanks Dwight Hardy--can i set up a 4 split with any combination of frequencies i want? e.g. low chirp, high chirp, 83 & 200 ? that might be interesting to see which gives best detail on our lake...


Not sure on that but I would think so.
Someone who knows may answer.
Best way to find out is try. Only takes a minute to find out.
Let us know.
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/03/18 03:39 PM

Will do when i get the boat back tomorrow
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/04/18 10:37 PM

Haven't got the boat into the water yet so haven't been able to try a 4 split on sonar but i did call Lowrance tech support to ask if this could be done. If you can believe it they told me Gen 3 can't even do side by side sonar split with 2 different frequencies--notwithstanding the manual says you can--that was the level of competence of the tech rep i got -- she asked me which page in the manual said this--so i just thanked her and said adios as it was pretty clear i wasn't going to get a competent answer.
Posted By: CoachPayne

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/05/18 01:03 PM

I'm looking for someone that repairs Lowrance units or has a parts unit HDS 9 Gen 2. My pages button has crapped out and I need a part off of one to fix mine if any of you guys knows anyone I would appreciate it.
Posted By: EDO

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/05/18 10:12 PM

does the most current Lowrance 3D transducer have traditional 2D imaging? I get different answers every time I ask someone. Russell Marine has a you tube video that says it does not have traditional 2D imaging, but video is couple years old.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/06/18 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: EDO
does the most current Lowrance 3D transducer have traditional 2D imaging? I get different answers every time I ask someone. Russell Marine has a you tube video that says it does not have traditional 2D imaging, but video is couple years old.


No the 3D transducer does not have traditional 2D sonar integrated. The only Lowrance transducer which has Downscan, Sidescan and 2D is the Totalscan transducer.
Posted By: Wyoboy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/06/18 01:25 PM

ok--cannot simultaneously transmit any more than 2 sonar frequencies + the two structure scan frequencies--"Pages" will only allow you to drop in 2 sonar screens then it's not available any more--so no 4 split of all the sonar frequencies.
Posted By: MAK747

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/06/18 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
ok--cannot simultaneously transmit any more than 2 sonar frequencies + the two structure scan frequencies--"Pages" will only allow you to drop in 2 sonar screens then it's not available any more--so no 4 split of all the sonar frequencies.


So are you saying that you can have both 455Khz and 800kHz StructureScan frequencies transmitting at the same time? I didn't think that was possible.
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/18 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: MAK747
Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
ok--cannot simultaneously transmit any more than 2 sonar frequencies + the two structure scan frequencies--"Pages" will only allow you to drop in 2 sonar screens then it's not available any more--so no 4 split of all the sonar frequencies.


So are you saying that you can have both 455Khz and 800kHz StructureScan frequencies transmitting at the same time? I didn't think that was possible.



I have been unable to get two different frequency Structurescan at the same time.
First 3D only has 455
Totalscan scan has 455/800 but I cannot get it to run but one frequency at a time
I mounted a HDI with my 3D transducer hopping I could get 800 in DI and 455 in SI at the same time that way.
I still can only run one frequency in Structurescan
If it possible someone please let me know. I like 800 in di.
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/18 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwight Hardy
Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.


Yes you can view all four if you set up a 4 split screen
83 and 200 on sonar and 455 and 800 on di and si

I was wrong about that.
I can get split sonar but not structure.

Cannot do it with the SS3D
Originally Posted By: Dwight Hardy
Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.


Yes you can view all four if you set up a 4 split screen
83 and 200 on sonar and 455 and 800 on di and si

Cannot do it with the SS3D
Posted By: Dwight Hardy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/13/18 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwight Hardy
Originally Posted By: Dwight Hardy
Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.


Yes you can view all four if you set up a 4 split screen
83 and 200 on sonar and 455 and 800 on di and si

I was wrong about that.
I can get split sonar but not structure.

Cannot do it with the SS3D
Originally Posted By: Dwight Hardy
Originally Posted By: Wyoboy
Many thanks MAK747--i couldn't find that tech bulletin but the search did lead me to discussions of Live Network Sonar and how it would only work with software update 56 and above (which Gen2Touch doesn't have--by Lowrance's choice i imagine). However, when you say i can display two different frequencies from the same transducer are you saying the Totalscan can generate 83 and 200 simultaneously as well as the 455/800 for the structure ? If so i guess that's a decent consolation prize.


Yes you can view all four if you set up a 4 split screen
83 and 200 on sonar and 455 and 800 on di and si

Cannot do it with the SS3D


I was wrong about that
Can get split sonar but not split structure frequencies
Posted By: HappyNest

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/30/18 02:56 AM

I was on the lake yesterday and broke the small transducer of my Lowrance Carbon at the mounting loop. It was HST WSBL 80 - 200 hz. Now that I will need to replace it with a new transducer, I am trying to get an idea if I need one different than the HST WSBL 80 - 200 hz. I don’t have much knowledge with these so I am asking for recommendations or for material to expand my knowledge for an informed decision. Another option that crossed my thoughts was to glue the broken HST-WSBL in the hull? Is that a possibility? I put this post in the general area but I think that may have not been the right place.
Posted By: MasterCaster

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/04/18 02:07 PM

Assuming you already have a StructureScan ducer, you may want to look at the HDI with CHIRP. That’s what I run with the StructureScan 3D.
Posted By: rebait

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/07/18 11:36 PM

Any one that can enlighten me on the differences between the elite ti and the new elite ti2?
Thanks
Brad
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/21/18 12:44 PM

>>> Problem with HDS 12 <<<<
2D sonar keeps stopping -- I can reset and it scrolls for a few seconds and then goes into STOPPED mode again
down scan and side scan works fine -- GPS works fine
any ideas ?
Thx
Posted By: Poodle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/26/18 06:05 PM

Wanting to buy a new Lowrance unit for my boat. Been looking at getting the Hook2 7split shot. The thing is I want something with maps. I go to Alabama every year and would like to have a good map on my unit. Is the unit with the built in inland charts good or should I get the one with Nav plus charts included. Should I get the cheaper of the 2 and then buy a upgraded map.
Thanks for the help, Steve
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/18 02:39 PM

>>> does anyone have a "TRICK" for getting Lowrance Tech Support to respond back to you concerning unit issues ?
EMAILS & PHONE calls have not been answered or returned
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/18 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Poodle
Wanting to buy a new Lowrance unit for my boat. Been looking at getting the Hook2 7split shot. The thing is I want something with maps. I go to Alabama every year and would like to have a good map on my unit. Is the unit with the built in inland charts good or should I get the one with Nav plus charts included. Should I get the cheaper of the 2 and then buy a upgraded map.
Thanks for the help, Steve

It's always cheaper to buy the bundle; bundle mean the HOOK2 with a Nav. You are saving quite a lot of money buying the bundle
Posted By: Poodle

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/18 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by wallyandre
Originally Posted by Poodle
Wanting to buy a new Lowrance unit for my boat. Been looking at getting the Hook2 7split shot. The thing is I want something with maps. I go to Alabama every year and would like to have a good map on my unit. Is the unit with the built in inland charts good or should I get the one with Nav plus charts included. Should I get the cheaper of the 2 and then buy a upgraded map.
Thanks for the help, Steve

It's always cheaper to buy the bundle; bundle mean the HOOK2 with a Nav. You are saving quite a lot of money buying the bundle

Thanks, I decided to jump on BassPro's cyberweek sale and purchased the Elite 7 with US/Canada Nav+ bundle. Was not after side scan but was as cheap as Hook .
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/18 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Poodle
Originally Posted by wallyandre
Originally Posted by Poodle
Wanting to buy a new Lowrance unit for my boat. Been looking at getting the Hook2 7split shot. The thing is I want something with maps. I go to Alabama every year and would like to have a good map on my unit. Is the unit with the built in inland charts good or should I get the one with Nav plus charts included. Should I get the cheaper of the 2 and then buy a upgraded map.
Thanks for the help, Steve

It's always cheaper to buy the bundle; bundle mean the HOOK2 with a Nav. You are saving quite a lot of money buying the bundle

Thanks, I decided to jump on BassPro's cyberweek sale and purchased the Elite 7 with US/Canada Nav+ bundle. Was not after side scan but was as cheap as Hook .

Excellent choice!
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/11/18 10:58 AM

>>>>QUESTION<<<<
will an HDS 12 Gen 2 interlink with an HDS 12 Gen 3 ???

I would like to run 2 12s off my Gen 3 Total scan transducer ,,,,,,,
or at least be able to co-plot waypoints
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/12/18 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by flukeman83
>>>>QUESTION<<<<
will an HDS 12 Gen 2 interlink with an HDS 12 Gen 3 ???

I would like to run 2 12s off my Gen 3 Total scan transducer ,,,,,,,
or at least be able to co-plot waypoints



Yes, use an Ethernet cable and there’s not problems with this combo.


Edit: clarify something. You only want to see what the gen3 is showing, you don’t want to use the totalscan on the gen2’s?
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/12/18 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by flukeman83
>>>>QUESTION<<<<
will an HDS 12 Gen 2 interlink with an HDS 12 Gen 3 ???

I would like to run 2 12s off my Gen 3 Total scan transducer ,,,,,,,
or at least be able to co-plot waypoints



Yes, use an Ethernet cable and there’s not problems with this combo.


Edit: clarify something. You only want to see what the gen3 is showing, you don’t want to use the totalscan on the gen2’s?


CORRECT — I just want to use the 2nd graph for mapping but want to be able to put waypoints on the 3 and they show up on the 2 map
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/12/18 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by flukeman83
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by flukeman83
>>>>QUESTION<<<<
will an HDS 12 Gen 2 interlink with an HDS 12 Gen 3 ???

I would like to run 2 12s off my Gen 3 Total scan transducer ,,,,,,,
or at least be able to co-plot waypoints



Yes, use an Ethernet cable and there’s not problems with this combo.


Edit: clarify something. You only want to see what the gen3 is showing, you don’t want to use the totalscan on the gen2’s?


CORRECT — I just want to use the 2nd graph for mapping but want to be able to put waypoints on the 3 and they show up on the 2 map




Yes it will do that, Ethernet is the better way to do it; but nmea will also transfer them if all the graphs are turned on (if you don’t have a enet cable). Enet shares everything though, sonar, maps, structure scan, wpts.
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/12/18 03:48 PM

I think you will get all your answers here:


Attached picture Gen3 to Gen2.JPG
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/15/18 03:33 PM

*** THANK YOU very much ***
I appreciate the help
Posted By: troutkilla101

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/07/19 03:05 AM

I'm looking to put a overlay map on my elite 7 HDI. I have watched several videos that use SAS.planet and insight to achieve this. The area that I fish the most is Port O'Connor, does anybody have or know of a map that is post Harvey? Google earth is still pre-Harvey and the other map pictures were taken on windy days to where you really cant see the structure until your zoomed in to far to navigate with.

Also, is it about the same processs as the HDS?
Posted By: elmo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/14/19 03:52 AM

I currently have a 9” gen 2 in my console and a gen 2 in the bow. I would like to have fish revels, better side/down image clarity so I was wanting to install a 9” Live on a gimbal mount by the the console. It will have the 3 in 1 active imaging transducer. How can I make the three units work together? The gen 2s are currently Nmea together and the side/DownScan work off of one lss2 on the rear transom.

Is this doable?
Posted By: barbarian

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/24/19 01:27 AM

I'm pulling my hair out. 2 carbon units with 18.3 update. 1 with totalscan and 1 with AI 3-1. I have no history with these units prior to 18.3 update. Both units do not auto adjust on depth. I select auto but it has zero affect. Actually if it's on 20' and I choose auto, it says auto 20'. I've read many people having same issue even before 18.3 and a hard/soft reset is usually suggested, but nobody ever comes back and gives an update.
Posted By: BassColonel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/19 05:18 PM

My HDS 9 at my console is getting major interference when my front unit is turned on. Anybody have an idea of how to fix it. It does it even when the power is turned off to the trolling motor. Thanks. [Linked Image]
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Posted By: T Bird

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/19 06:29 PM

Transducers running on same frequency. Change freq. on one or the other. Also check Lowrance web site for most recent software updates and make sure they are installed on your units.
Posted By: tmd11111

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/19 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by T Bird
Transducers running on same frequency. Change freq. on one or the other. Also check Lowrance web site for most recent software updates and make sure they are installed on your units.


Actually if you look at the pics above they are on different frequencies. Ones on 200 and the other is showing 455. It does look like electrical interference though. Is there a livewell pump on when its doing this? Also are the graphs wired to a terminal block or directly to the batteries?
Posted By: BassColonel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/19 08:47 PM

Thanks. I'll check this to see if this might be the problem. The front graph was installed by another person but I believe it is connected to existing wiring of some sort up on the front of the boat.
Posted By: BassColonel

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/01/19 08:47 PM

Thanks. I'll check this to see if this might be the problem. The front graph was installed by another person but I believe it is connected to existing wiring of some sort up on the front of the boat.
Posted By: Kens3313

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/08/19 01:15 AM

So I just purchased a Lowrance Elite 7 ti 2 and turned it on and the chart wont come up with the C map I went to settings and clicked on C Map US base and scroll over to lake Conroe and it doesn't show nothing on the map but light blue. Is there something im missing not turning on right?
Posted By: matt1794

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/11/19 06:33 PM

Ok im real new to this graph stuff so i apologize in advance if i dont use the correct terminology but i need some assistance. i bought a used bass boat to captain for my son to do high school tournaments. The boat came equipped with older lowrance units. The bow has an hds 5 gen 1 that works fine. The console is an hds 8 gen 1. It also has a structure scan box with i assume an lss1 trandsucer. It has another transducer that is in the boat but not installed. Its the type that goes down in the hull of the boat. my hds 8 does not read water temp or depth as it sits. Can the lss1 pick that up or do i need a second transducer to read sonar, depth, and temp? I would like to buy a transom mount instead of the through the hull type if i need a second one but dont know which one to buy. Please help if at all possble. i am lost when it comes to these things.
Posted By: UJC

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/12/19 05:47 AM

You can get depth and temp from the HDS 8 by going to the Advanced Screen and selecting the ducer you want to use for those readings. If you have LSS 1 ducer, it is probably located at the transom. It will be about 5 inches long. To read sonar, you need a 2D ducer, like a HST-WBL? - something like that (can't remember exactly). It too, may have depth and temp. There are advantages of having the other uninstalled ducer in the hull, assuming it is the puck kind. PM me your phone number and I can talk you through some things. FYI - I am not on TFF 24/7. If you don't have the manual, it is available on the Lowrance site.
Posted By: metalman BDB

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/25/19 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by tmd11111
Originally Posted by T Bird
Transducers running on same frequency. Change freq. on one or the other. Also check Lowrance web site for most recent software updates and make sure they are installed on your units.


Actually if you look at the pics above they are on different frequencies. Ones on 200 and the other is showing 455. It does look like electrical interference though. Is there a livewell pump on when its doing this? Also are the graphs wired to a terminal block or directly to the batteries?



Those are the same units at the console. One is reading 455 and the other is 200 but that is the same unit.
Posted By: Kylefield

Re: Lowrance HDS7 Gen2 touch - 04/27/19 08:11 PM

I am trying to save way points from my buddies HDS7 Gen 2 touch to my HDS7 Gen 2 touch and am having trouble locating the import export part of the software. It also does not prompt me when I put in an SD card? Any advice would be appreciated.
Posted By: Dayne

Re: Lowrance HDS7 Gen2 touch - 04/27/19 09:32 PM

Put the card with the waypoints in your unit go to files. Locate the card and import the files.
Posted By: Kylefield

Re: Lowrance HDS7 Gen2 touch - 04/28/19 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by Dayne
Put the card with the waypoints in your unit go to files. Locate the card and import the files.


Thanks for the direction. I'm not sure why I didn't see files.
Posted By: Lake53Sniper

Re: Lowrance HDS7 Gen2 touch - 04/29/19 02:16 AM

I am new to this web site and apologize that I originally put this question in the General Discussions section.

I have an Elite Ti2 9" with the Active Imagining 3 in 1 transducer. It is the only graph on the boat. Recently, I have lost the frequency portion of the menu function for the downscan. There is no longer an option to select 455 or 800. All other functions of downscan and the graph, including frequency on sonar and sidescan seem to be working fine. I have tried resetting everything to original factory defaults with no success.

I have found two other threads with reports of this same issue. Any one hear of this before and have any thoughts?
Posted By: matt1794

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/06/19 12:38 PM

Ok need more help. I installed the 2d transducer, selected that one in settings on the HDS 8, and decided to re run the power and ground to the hds 8 and structure scan, (didnt like the way the previous owner had it run.) Now all of the sudden i have lost GPS on both graphs. I have an HDS 5 up front that i did nothing to. Any help is appreciated.
Posted By: Lil joe

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/23/19 02:06 AM

I just got a gen2 HDS 8. I had a gen 1 7 already so I was able to just plug it in to my existing sonar transducer and structure scan transducer and box. I took it out on the water for the first time and the sonar was definitely not working properly. I played with the sensitivity and it got better but still nothing like it should be. Also, on structure scan it would show nothing but the bottom. I rode over very large brush piles that I know for sure are there but still nothing. I started looking for videos showing ideal settings for the unit and I found one that said to go to the installation tab and enter the transducer model. Well sure enough it said not known. The video says the model is on the silver sticker on the wire going into the back of the unit but the transducer sticker is missing so I can’t figure out which one it is. It came original with the gen 1 hds 7. Is there any other way to identify the model?
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/09/19 10:42 AM

Just got a new to me boat and it has 2 hds9's gen 3 at bow and console. Looking to add a HDS 12 gen 3. I've always used Humminbirds so don't know Lowrance at all. Just installed a brand new Ultrex on the boat as part of the purchase. The HDS 12 has the LSS transducer that is coming with it. What else should I be looking for? Where do I look to find the number of hours and the software updates on this unit? Any help BEFORE I go see this Saturday would be great! Thanks TFF!
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/19 02:32 PM

Well never mind...I bought it anyway. Now I just need to do the software update from 4.0 to the latest. Can anyone tell me the latest update version and if it's free?
Posted By: bronco71

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/19 03:24 PM

With Gen 3's you should just turn them on in Wifi range and setup and connect and they should prompt you for an update if needed. If no Wifi in range go to Lowrance downloads on your computer and download to SD card and then put in your graph and turn on. The latest Gen 3 update is 18.2 so you can check that first. Software upgrades are free.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/10/19 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by bronco71
With Gen 3's you should just turn them on in Wifi range and setup and connect and they should prompt you for an update if needed. If no Wifi in range go to Lowrance downloads on your computer and download to SD card and then put in your graph and turn on. The latest Gen 3 update is 18.2 so you can check that first. Software upgrades are free.


Thanks Bronco. I'll try the wifi set up first.
Posted By: JBranham

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/11/19 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lake53Sniper
I am new to this web site and apologize that I originally put this question in the General Discussions section.

I have an Elite Ti2 9" with the Active Imagining 3 in 1 transducer. It is the only graph on the boat. Recently, I have lost the frequency portion of the menu function for the downscan. There is no longer an option to select 455 or 800. All other functions of downscan and the graph, including frequency on sonar and sidescan seem to be working fine. I have tried resetting everything to original factory defaults with no success.

I have found two other threads with reports of this same issue. Any one hear of this before and have any thoughts?



Try a hard reset BUT make sure you save your settings and waypoints/routes/trails first.
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/15/19 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lake53Sniper
I am new to this web site and apologize that I originally put this question in the General Discussions section.

I have an Elite Ti2 9" with the Active Imagining 3 in 1 transducer. It is the only graph on the boat. Recently, I have lost the frequency portion of the menu function for the downscan. There is no longer an option to select 455 or 800. All other functions of downscan and the graph, including frequency on sonar and sidescan seem to be working fine. I have tried resetting everything to original factory defaults with no success.

I have found two other threads with reports of this same issue. Any one hear of this before and have any thoughts?


On downscan you don't have the choice between 455 and 800; only on side scan. On downscan it's only 455
Posted By: SabineAndy

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/24/19 03:39 PM

Looking for an expert who can teach me one on one on the water how to understand and get the most out of Lowrance HDS Live
My apologizes if this is the wrong place to ask this question if it is please point me to where I should
Thank You
Posted By: Reel Addict

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/25/19 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by SabineAndy
Looking for an expert who can teach me one on one on the water how to understand and get the most out of Lowrance HDS Live
My alogizes if this is the wrong place to ask this question if it is please point me to where I should
Thank You


Slade Dougherty 817-797-8762


https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/10883249/Re:_All_I_can_say_is_WOW!!!
Posted By: SNAKEBIT

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/19 09:37 PM

carbon unit is networked with a Gen 3 at the dash and at the bow.
with lake Fork boat lanes chip loaded on the carbon, the gen 3's show only the waypoints etc, not the trails.
shouldn't they all be the same if networked??
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/08/19 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by SNAKEBIT
carbon unit is networked with a Gen 3 at the dash and at the bow.
with lake Fork boat lanes chip loaded on the carbon, the gen 3's show only the waypoints etc, not the trails.
shouldn't they all be the same if networked??



I don’t believe trails show across networks, just on each graph individually.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/19 03:49 PM

On the Hds Glen 3,
Is there a setting to display waypoints by nearest point.? It sucks to scroll threw a 100 or more points to get the one you need.

Thanks Mo
Posted By: T Bird

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/08/19 04:46 PM

This should help. Will work for Gen 3.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/11/19 03:17 PM

All
Originally Posted by T Bird
This should help. Will work for Gen 3.


All my waypoints are on one lake , a four mile radius, Having to build a bunch of files seems to be a complicated way to
solve my issue.

I went to waypoint management screen , set it to display by closest , It works on that screen , but when I go to the
anchor screen ,, it still displays by number.

Am I the only one that finds this annoying ?

thanks
Mo
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/13/19 07:58 PM

Question for all you Lowrance geniuses, of which I am def NOT! Bought a used boat a few months ago that has 2 gen 3 HDS 9's on it. One at the bow, one at the console. I bought a used Gen 3 HDS 12 to add to the console and hired someone to link the three together. He did. Supposedly. I have a new Ultrex up front as a side note and I'm aware it won't link with Lowrance units. I have an LSS2 transducer mounted on the transom and it read both units fine. The 12 is supposedly linked to the console 9, and if I go to source on the 12 it shows the 9 as the source. The issue is that when you go to side image on the 12 the page will come up, but it will not read the transducer. I took it back in and he said it wasn't linking because I didn't have the 12 updated to the newest software. He updated the software and it's still not working. He's now suggesting I update both 9's with the latest software. Any ideas?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/14/19 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by fivebites
Question for all you Lowrance geniuses, of which I am def NOT! Bought a used boat a few months ago that has 2 gen 3 HDS 9's on it. One at the bow, one at the console. I bought a used Gen 3 HDS 12 to add to the console and hired someone to link the three together. He did. Supposedly. I have a new Ultrex up front as a side note and I'm aware it won't link with Lowrance units. I have an LSS2 transducer mounted on the transom and it read both units fine. The 12 is supposedly linked to the console 9, and if I go to source on the 12 it shows the 9 as the source. The issue is that when you go to side image on the 12 the page will come up, but it will not read the transducer. I took it back in and he said it wasn't linking because I didn't have the 12 updated to the newest software. He updated the software and it's still not working. He's now suggesting I update both 9's with the latest software. Any ideas?


Not a genius and I’m guessing here. Go to your 12’s Structure Scan menu (you know, press the menu button while on the SS page). Go down to the source and make sure it’s NOT set to “this unit”.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/19 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by fivebites
Question for all you Lowrance geniuses, of which I am def NOT! Bought a used boat a few months ago that has 2 gen 3 HDS 9's on it. One at the bow, one at the console. I bought a used Gen 3 HDS 12 to add to the console and hired someone to link the three together. He did. Supposedly. I have a new Ultrex up front as a side note and I'm aware it won't link with Lowrance units. I have an LSS2 transducer mounted on the transom and it read both units fine. The 12 is supposedly linked to the console 9, and if I go to source on the 12 it shows the 9 as the source. The issue is that when you go to side image on the 12 the page will come up, but it will not read the transducer. I took it back in and he said it wasn't linking because I didn't have the 12 updated to the newest software. He updated the software and it's still not working. He's now suggesting I update both 9's with the latest software. Any ideas?


Not a genius and I’m guessing here. Go to your 12’s Structure Scan menu (you know, press the menu button while on the SS page). Go down to the source and make sure it’s NOT set to “this unit”.


Thanks Scout, but it's set to the console unit for the source, which is the "brain" for a lack of better explanation. At least that what it says it's set on. Could be the guys set it up wrong, but I don't have any idea how to determine that. Guess I should have stayed in school!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/19 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by fivebites
Originally Posted by grout-scout


Not a genius and I’m guessing here. Go to your 12’s Structure Scan menu (you know, press the menu button while on the SS page). Go down to the source and make sure it’s NOT set to “this unit”.


Thanks Scout, but it's set to the console unit for the source, which is the "brain" for a lack of better explanation. At least that what it says it's set on. Could be the guys set it up wrong, but I don't have any idea how to determine that. Guess I should have stayed in school!




Ok, so you verified that it is set to receive its info from the console as it’s source? If yes, then you could possibly have a bad Ethernet cable going from 1 graph to the other. First make sure the Ethernet cables are properly attached, then try changing the Ethernet ports (the yellow/orange colored plug) and if that doesn’t work, then it’s possible it’s the cable. They are notorious for being bad or going bad (even new ones can be bad).


I wish you were closer, I know we could figure it out.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/15/19 01:11 PM

Will do...when it thaws out! LOL! Thanks grout!
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/20 12:08 AM

I purchased a used Lowrance HDS9 and it has some co-ordinates left in it. Lots of them. Most are waaaay out of my range of where I'll fish, but some are within 300 miles. How can you put in the co-ordinates and get a location so I'll at least know what lake they are for? Thanks!
Posted By: T Bird

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/31/20 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by fivebites
I purchased a used Lowrance HDS9 and it has some co-ordinates left in it. Lots of them. Most are waaaay out of my range of where I'll fish, but some are within 300 miles. How can you put in the co-ordinates and get a location so I'll at least know what lake they are for? Thanks!


Just go into way points. Select a way point and then select "go to". Scroll map along red line until it gets to the way point/lake.
Posted By: Burbarry

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/27/20 08:33 PM

Have a question about while driving my down and side scan stops. I bought the boat with the transducer already mounted. I’ve read a website I should have the transducer lower and away from things that could cause air bubbles. I’m not sure about going lower. But I could maybe go to the other side of the water inlets for live well.
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Posted By: Holzer

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/24/20 05:52 PM

Had my ducer installed similar to what you have shown and it didn't work past idle speed.
Just this weekend, I moved it up and it made a big difference.
Posted By: SteveR

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/26/20 09:08 PM

I currently have a Gen 1 HDS8 on the console. Use Lss1 and black box for side and down scan. Considering purchasing one of the new elite 9 or 12 Ti2 currently on Black Friday sale as a second console unit

Is it possible to use my existing transducer set up to save buying another? Would that go thru the current hub?
Posted By: Larry Hutchens Lowrance Pro S

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/20 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by SteveR
I currently have a Gen 1 HDS8 on the console. Use Lss1 and black box for side and down scan. Considering purchasing one of the new elite 9 or 12 Ti2 currently on Black Friday sale as a second console unit

Is it possible to use my existing transducer set up to save buying another? Would that go thru the current hub?


Elite Ti2 have no ethernet for sharing with an HDS unit so it would need its own Transducer to work with your HDS. Best to always stay with like model units so they are compatible with ea other.
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/20 06:08 PM

I have a question for one of the Lowrance Pros or anyone else that may know. I am considering getting the HDS Live 12 for the newest technology, but not interested in LiveSight at this time. I am considering a Carbon 9 for the bow to link to the HDS Live 12 at the console while I am fresh water fishing. I have a Center Console and spend about half of my time fishing salt water but don't want to take the HDS Live 12 to the coast. Here is my question. Can I move the Carbon 9 to the console and use the HDS 12 cabling to power the Carbon 9 (including the 2D transducer)?

Thanks.....Richard
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/20 07:08 PM

Yes
Posted By: Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/01/20 08:35 PM

Echo that YES!!!
Posted By: Polly Gosh Lizard

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/08/20 02:31 PM

Got a question about my Hook Triple Shot. The depth is set on Auto and works great the first time I turn it on but after fishing a spot then leaving I always put it on the maps. When I get to new spot and go to sonar, it goes to 61 feet and won't read depth. I have to shut the unit off and turn it back on to get it to work again. Just irritating having to do this. Thanks for any help.
Posted By: HWV5

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/11/20 11:25 AM

Question for Lowrance Pro Staff. I have a HDS Live that I updated to 20.0 first thing that happened was the C-Map card was freezing the screen on what ever it was on, C-Map sent a new map fixed problem. Second problem is on 2d sonar screen went to more options on the menu then it would not return back to first menu, only way back was to switch pages. Third problem I encountered was HDS would not control Motor Guide trolling motor, needs update. Tried to update thru HDS screen froze on update. Called Lowrance, tech said that there was no fix at this time. Now I have to have Motor Guide gateway disconnected so HDS won't go back to update screen and freeze up. My question is what do I do now with this mess?
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/11/20 04:22 PM

The latest version is: Version: 20.0.1-63.1.350
Don't update you're unit by wifi because it's to unstable
Before updating save you're waypoints on a msd card and once updated do a hard reset
Posted By: z289sec

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/14/20 12:25 AM

Any idea what these lines are on my side scan? they appear whether or not the motor is in the water, whether or not I'm traveling , drifting, or still. With no other electronics on at all in the boat, they are still there. It's on a pontoon boat, so options are very limited on where I can mount the transducer. Didn't get them at all with the Humminbird transducer mounted in the exact same spot. I can live with it, if it's not an easy fix, but if it's easy, I'd like to fix it. Looks like it's pinging the toons, to me. It's on the left side of the boat, at the bottom of the left pontoon, about a foot below the water line. I am drifting here at .4 mph, with the motor completely out of the water.





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Posted By: Larry Hutchens Lowrance Pro S

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/20/20 03:30 AM

Based on the same lines on downscan I would say you are correct on getting these bounces off your pontoon. Same thing happens when some SS transducers are mounted inside the jackplates. WIthout seeing the mounting can you lower it? of move it back past the end of the floats. Is your transducer level or tipped up or down?
Posted By: z289sec

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/16/21 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Larry Hutchens Lowrance Pro S
Based on the same lines on downscan I would say you are correct on getting these bounces off your pontoon. Same thing happens when some SS transducers are mounted inside the jackplates. WIthout seeing the mounting can you lower it? of move it back past the end of the floats. Is your transducer level or tipped up or down?
Can't lower it anymore, unless I build an extension on the mount. It's already a little over 12 inches in the water too. And it's already completely behind the pontoons. Doesn't do it, with it out of the water, so I'm going to assume it must be pinging the pontoons. It's been leveled with a torpedo level at scanning speed (3 to 4 mph)

Think my only option to get rid of it, is like you said, lower it. But, I'll have to fashion an extension on the transducer mount. Don't know how far I'll have to drop it down though.
Posted By: Larry Hutchens Lowrance Pro S

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/23/21 02:04 PM

Can you post a pic of the mounted transducer so we can see it on the boat in relation to the pontoons and motor and maybe come up with some other options. There is always a way
Posted By: z289sec

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/21 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Larry Hutchens Lowrance Pro S
Can you post a pic of the mounted transducer so we can see it on the boat in relation to the pontoons and motor and maybe come up with some other options. There is always a way

If I ever get my boat back.....I will. LOL
Posted By: Fishbonz

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/31/21 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by z289sec
Any idea what these lines are on my side scan? they appear whether or not the motor is in the water, whether or not I'm traveling , drifting, or still. With no other electronics on at all in the boat, they are still there. It's on a pontoon boat, so options are very limited on where I can mount the transducer. Didn't get them at all with the Humminbird transducer mounted in the exact same spot. I can live with it, if it's not an easy fix, but if it's easy, I'd like to fix it. Looks like it's pinging the toons, to me. It's on the left side of the boat, at the bottom of the left pontoon, about a foot below the water line. I am drifting here at .4 mph, with the motor completely out of the water.





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I had the same issue on my HDS 12 and did this & it cleared it up. I went to (Structure Scan advance) option and increased my Surface Clarity,then I went to the (Contrast) /sensitivity (samething) lowered it,then adjusted my Range. I haven`t had the problem since doing so. You might want to try it.
Posted By: redskeet100

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/15/21 07:43 PM

Guys, looking for some clarity. Looking to upgrade electronics. I am looking at the Lowrance Elite FS 9 with 3-1 transducer for both bow and console this way I can add active target later on.

So

1. Do I get a transducer for front and back? How do guys with multiple graphs do this? Does the 3-1 transducer mount to the underside of the trolling motor good?
2. If I want to network these 2 graphs, I need to buy a hub or just a network cable? Will I need a hub if I add Active Target later on? What all do I get networking the 2 graphs?
3. When I add active target, do I just need to buy the transducer, or is there something else as the FS 9 is compatible.
4. Does active target transducer interfere with other transducers? So if you have active target on front, are you still able to use the 3-1 transducer?

I just casually fish, so don't need to go crazy as far as updates. Looked at HDS 9, but figured why spend that kind of money to get out a handful a times a month.

Any negatives with the Elite FS series? It looks like you can't add Active Target with the 7? Or at least the option is greyed out when you select the 7.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/24/21 10:15 PM

Anyone know what thru hull transducer the Lowrance Elite 12 Ti2 takes? Bought one and it only came with the transom ducer. Part or stock number, who has em, and price if ya know it. Thanks!!
Posted By: redskeet100

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/29/21 07:18 PM

Can someone tell me how to turn on water temp reading on a Lowrance Elites FS with 3-1 Active Imaging transducer? I have 2 of these units, I can read water temp on one but not the other. Wondering if only one will show temp since they are connected via network cable.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/17/21 11:43 PM

Just installed an Elite 12 ti2 at the console and an Elite FS 9 at the bow. The installer was supposed to have networked them with the new version of the nmea connector. I downloaded waypoints onto the console ti2 12 but they are not reading on the bow. I assumed they would automatically read each other if they were connected correctly. Since the ti2 does NOT have ethernet I had to buy the nmea "kit" to connect them. I went to youtube to see how to network the two but couldn't find anything regarding those two. Plenty of them for connecting FS's or Elite ti2's, but not those two different units. Suggestions?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/21 12:53 AM

Five, you will have to save the wypts onto a card and import them onto the new graph. Then turn on nmea wypt sharing on each graph. If you keep both graphs turned on while fishing, they will add/delete wypts; but they will not do it if one of the graphs is turned off. That feature only works with Ethernet.

Now I am assuming that the Ti2 and FS will work with each other, they should being close in age.
Posted By: fluker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/21 01:39 AM

Do not think Ti2 has ethernet.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/21 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by fluker
Do not think Ti2 has ethernet.


It does not, only nmea.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/18/21 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Five, you will have to save the wypts onto a card and import them onto the new graph. Then turn on nmea wypt sharing on each graph. If you keep both graphs turned on while fishing, they will add/delete wypts; but they will not do it if one of the graphs is turned off. That feature only works with Ethernet.

Now I am assuming that the Ti2 and FS will work with each other, they should being close in age.


Thanks Grout! Yep, I imported the waypoints, but did not turn on the nmea wypt sharing. I'll try that tomorrow morning.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/24/21 12:21 AM

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Posted By: split cane rod

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 05/09/21 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Polly Gosh Lizard
Got a question about my Hook Triple Shot. The depth is set on Auto and works great the first time I turn it on but after fishing a spot then leaving I always put it on the maps. When I get to new spot and go to sonar, it goes to 61 feet and won't read depth. I have to shut the unit off and turn it back on to get it to work again. Just irritating having to do this. Thanks for any help.


I was having a similar problem with my Hook 2. After calling their help line and emailing them, I put all their information together and did a YouTube search. I wound up doing a HARD RESET on my unit after I had downloaded the current software update.

It did fix my problem. Now, my depth reading stays on all the time. Before, the screen would freeze up and the depth would stop reading and displaying on the screen. Turning it off and back on would work sometime, but after doing a HARD RESET, it works fine.

JR
Posted By: wildbill48

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/21 12:22 AM

wildbill48
About 2 months ago i bought a HDS 7 Live. I am having a hard time trying to find out how to use it. Are there people that can help me? I would think that people that can do that are payed. i would be happy to pay them. Are there classes that i could go to? I live in Crowley Texas.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/21 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by wildbill48
wildbill48
About 2 months ago i bought a HDS 7 Live. I am having a hard time trying to find out how to use it. Are there people that can help me? I would think that people that can do that are payed. i would be happy to pay them. Are there classes that i could go to? I live in Crowley Texas.

Go to Lowrance.com, then click "Live Webinar". Scroll to and click on "HDS LIVE: The Ultimate Fishing System with Jeremiah Clark" to watch a two part video to get you started with HDS Live. You probably need to watch each part at least twice as there is a lot to absorb. There are numerous other videos there that will help you use your Live unit.

You should read through the manual a couple of times while sitting in front of the unit to learn where the settings are in the menu tables. DO NOT get hung up on sensitivity settings as the unit can do a lot without changing any of that, and if you do it wrong, you could make it worse instead of better. Learn basics before you start tweaking too much.
Posted By: wildbill48

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/30/21 01:26 PM

Thank you. That is what I will do. In fact I will do it right now.
Posted By: KWfishingtorelax

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/21 12:43 AM

I have installed two Elite 9 FS units, one at the console, the other at the bow. Yesterday while preparing for our next trip I turned the power switch on, the console unit came right up, the bow unit did not. I checked power at the unit, had 12 volts. Removed the bow unit and connected power from the console unit , the bow unit did not come on. I then moved the console unit to the bow location, hooked up power and the console unit came on, so power connectors are good at both locations.

With all that said, am I missing something while checking the bow unit out?

I plan on contacting Lowrance, Monday morning to see what my next step is.
I purchased this unit June 30, 2021 and have used it three times.

Thank you for any help,

Kenny
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/21 12:55 AM

Your tests leave little to be blamed other than a dead unit. In the electronics industry as a whole this is called "infantile failure," meaning some component in the unit was essentially defective when the unit was built and that said component failed "immediately" in the scale of expected product lifespan. You might try the "hard reset power up procedure" detailed in the manual. That's about all that is left for you to try.
Posted By: KWfishingtorelax

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/01/21 01:17 AM

Just tried the soft and hard reset as you suggested, no response from the unit.

Thank you for your response,

Kenny.
Posted By: fshnbassrob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/08/21 04:10 PM

Help please.

I have a new carbon 7, didn't come with a transducer, that I want to run on the bow. I don't which transducer to use on the trolling motor. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also, have a new carbon 9 for the console. I heard that I need a thru hull transducer as the 3 in 1 will not get bottom contact once on plane. Please advise.

Thx
Rob.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/08/21 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by fshnbassrob
Help please.

I have a new carbon 7, didn't come with a transducer, that I want to run on the bow. I don't which transducer to use on the trolling motor. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also, have a new carbon 9 for the console. I heard that I need a thru hull transducer as the 3 in 1 will not get bottom contact once on plane. Please advise.

Thx
Rob.

I have two Carbon units, so I can relay my experience.

A properly installed 3-in-1 transducer most likely will not maintain bottom contact when you get on plane, so yes, you should plan on a "2D" transducer of some sort for the stern of the boat. If you want the standard chirp-capable shoot thru hull puck, the one that has the correct connector for Carbon is this one: PB-WBL Shoot-thru-hull transducer for Carbon 2D

When using the puck in the bilge, be certain that for the console Carbon you manually set the temperature source as the 3-in-1 transducer. This will insure the unit doesn't somehow start giving you the temperature of your boat's bilge from the "puck".

For the trolling motor, use this transducer for 2D and down-imaging: SKU: 000-10976-001 TM Transducer for Carbon
It has the correct connector (7-pin) and will work with Carbon. Do NOT get the TM transducer that is blue in color; it has the 9 pin connector that works with newer models. It can be connected if you wanted to ($30 adapter cable as an extra item), but why spend more? You may notice a different model that "looks" the same offered cheaper (SKU: 000-13889-001) but be aware that one has only a 6 foot cable (since it's meant for the kayak crowd).

There are 2 ways to go for mounting the TM transducer: 1) the plastic housing sold by Lowrance (that looks like a toy boat), or 2) bracket from Transducer Shield & Saver solution for this transducer on a TM. I like and have used the latter.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/10/21 01:44 PM

Best mapping chips for Elite Ti12 and the Elite FS9?
Posted By: fshnbassrob

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/14/21 09:42 PM

Hey Thanks Filliped-Out.

The setup suggested works perfect. We can called it user verified. The Carbon unit identified the 3in1 transducer for temp. So, lucky me.

Huge upgrade from my Elite 7 and 9.

Now, if I can just catch a fish.
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/01/22 11:52 PM

I've installed my a.i. 3-in-1 transducer and plan on installing a 2d on the port side of the 3-in-1. The 2d will be about 3 inches to the left and 2 inches lower than the 3-in-1. Am I going to get interference from the 2d when I use sidescan?

Thanks.....Richard
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/22 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Richard G
I've installed my a.i. 3-in-1 transducer and plan on installing a 2d on the port side of the 3-in-1. The 2d will be about 3 inches to the left and 2 inches lower than the 3-in-1. Am I going to get interference from the 2d when I use sidescan?

Thanks.....Richard




You adding a skimmer 2d for faster running speeds? You might post a picture if possible, you could get blockage with the SI, possibly. No way to add a in hull shoot through?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/22 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by Richard G
I've installed my a.i. 3-in-1 transducer and plan on installing a 2d on the port side of the 3-in-1. The 2d will be about 3 inches to the left and 2 inches lower than the 3-in-1. Am I going to get interference from the 2d when I use sidescan?

Thanks.....Richard




You adding a skimmer 2d for faster running speeds? You might post a picture if possible, you could get blockage with the SI, possibly. No way to add a in hull shoot through?

If the boat is aluminum (or an old balsa core hull) he can't shoot through the hull, obviously. I STRONGLY agree with your encouragement to install a 2D "puck" transducer to shoot through the hull.
"Interference" is usually implied to be electrical "noise" due the similar frequencies used by two or more transducers. In your case, the physical placement of the 2D transducer may create a blockage to be able to "see" (electronically) through the body of the 2D transducer. My bet is this will not work without some negative impact.

If the boat is a fiberglass hull, put a 2D transducer in the bilge near the drain plug. If you can't avoid putting a 2D on the exterior transom, I'm thinking it needs to be further from the 3-in-1 to not risk a physical blockage. I've always avoided this, so can't say how far is enough...
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/22 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by Richard G
I've installed my a.i. 3-in-1 transducer and plan on installing a 2d on the port side of the 3-in-1. The 2d will be about 3 inches to the left and 2 inches lower than the 3-in-1. Am I going to get interference from the 2d when I use sidescan?

Thanks.....Richard




You adding a skimmer 2d for faster running speeds? You might post a picture if possible, you could get blockage with the SI, possibly. No way to add a in hull shoot through?

If the boat is aluminum (or an old balsa core hull) he can't shoot through the hull, obviously. I STRONGLY agree with your encouragement to install a 2D "puck" transducer to shoot through the hull.
"Interference" is usually implied to be electrical "noise" due the similar frequencies used by two or more transducers. In your case, the physical placement of the 2D transducer may create a blockage to be able to "see" (electronically) through the body of the 2D transducer. My bet is this will not work without some negative impact.

If the boat is a fiberglass hull, put a 2D transducer in the bilge near the drain plug. If you can't avoid putting a 2D on the exterior transom, I'm thinking it needs to be further from the 3-in-1 to not risk a physical blockage. I've always avoided this, so can't say how far is enough...



What’s getting me, the 3 in 1 obviously has 2d built in. I don’t know if he can turn it off in the settings? I’m partially thinking that he can, but at the same time, I think it might keep pinging and cause interference.


His boat is a center console, I don’t remember what brand though.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/22 06:33 AM

Ahhh, it's a 3-in-1, not a 2-in-1 (or at least he says it is). As such, it should be mounted where it will successfully read 2D on plane like the huge skimmer it is. When the boat slows the transom will settle and all frequencies should work.
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/02/22 11:00 PM

I appreciate the feed back and will look into a shoot thru hull setup. I do have a center console and fish both fresh and salt. When in the salt I worry about damaging the 3-in-1 if / when I get too shallow. I want to be able to swing the 3-in-1 up and out of the way since I only need 2d / depth and would use the 2d skimmer as I've done prior to my recent upgrade. I originally planned on installing a 2-in-1 plus skimmer with the same thoughts in mind but I purchased the Carbon package which came with the 3-in-1. If the shoot thru hull has issues I may put the skimmer on the opposite side of the transom, hopefully in a position to avoid propeller turbulence.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/22 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Richard G
I appreciate the feed back and will look into a shoot thru hull setup. I do have a center console and fish both fresh and salt. When in the salt I worry about damaging the 3-in-1 if / when I get too shallow. I want to be able to swing the 3-in-1 up and out of the way since I only need 2d / depth and would use the 2d skimmer as I've done prior to my recent upgrade. I originally planned on installing a 2-in-1 plus skimmer with the same thoughts in mind but I purchased the Carbon package which came with the 3-in-1. If the shoot thru hull has issues I may put the skimmer on the opposite side of the transom, hopefully in a position to avoid propeller turbulence.




So you already have the skimmer installed, makes more sense now. If it’s an older skimmer you would need an adapter from a 7-9 pin to work with the carbon. I think (I’m not an expert), you could maybe “stop sonar” on the 2d in the 3-1 ducer and then switch the 2d source on the carbon to the skimmer. Might work without interference that way. Worth a shot before moving stuff around.

Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/22 02:56 PM

If I had only been smart enough to do more research before the install. I thought I had to upgrade my skimmer to an HDI skimmer for the Carbon so I removed my old skimmer before I ran the cables for the 3-in-1 transducer and the Point-1 GPS puck. Only after researching which skimmers were compatible did I learn that my old HST skimmer would have worked. I saved about $375 by doing the install myself but like most of my DIY projects I learn from my numerous mistakes.
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/22 03:00 PM

Anyone know how I can "stop sonar" on the Carbon for the 3-in-1 transducer? I've looked at the menus but don't know where this feature resides, if it's even possible.

Thanks..Richard
Posted By: wallyandre

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/22 06:31 PM

Sonar page-Menu-More options-Stop sonar
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/13/22 09:19 PM

Thanks. I thought I looked there but obviously missed it.
Posted By: Littledog

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/21/22 01:22 AM

I have HDS units on console and bow. All NEMA connected. I have a 3-n-1 transducer on the transom and a 3-n-1 nosecone transducer on the Ghost.
Do either of these transducers include temp sensing?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/21/22 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Littledog
I have HDS units on console and bow. All NEMA connected. I have a 3-n-1 transducer on the transom and a 3-n-1 nosecone transducer on the Ghost.
Do either of these transducers include temp sensing?


I believe both do. However, the display gets this data via the 7 or 9 pin transducer connector on the HDS case, not a NMEA node. Once acquired, the data may be shared via NMEA or Ethernet networks (but I forget which). You need to make sure you have the correct transducer model selected in setup or that auto-setup is enabled and operating correctly.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/22 12:52 AM

Hey guys, my one year old Lowrance Ti2 12 has gone on the blink. It will turn on for about 15 seconds, have a little "blip" at about 12 seconds that acts like it's about to load, then at 15 seconds, shuts down. It's not the power. I swapped it out to my power at the front graph, which works fine, and it does the same thing. Any ideas?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/23/22 03:47 AM

Hard factory reset to original out of box memory image. If it's salvageable at all, that might get you there. The manual tells you how..
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 04/24/22 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
Hard factory reset to original out of box memory image. If it's salvageable at all, that might get you there. The manual tells you how..


LOL...the back light was all the way off! Rob Jasper had me check that first! I'll feel like Lamont Sanford...BIG DUMMY!
Posted By: Littledog

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/22/22 03:16 AM

Fivebites; you are not a big dummy. In fact you experienced one of my biggest Lowrance aggravations.
If you are on the water late in the evening / night, the brightness level you use in the daytime is way too bright.
So, you turn it way down so that you are not blinded.
The next time (daytime) you power up your unit, it comes up at the low brightness level. So low in fact that you may not be able to see it at all.

REALLY REALLY STUPID LOWRANCE. ALWAYS power up at the high brightness level. Then the operator can lower the brightness if needed.
Posted By: elmo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/22 10:36 PM

Have 2 Lowrance 12s on the console networked on a 2 in 1 transducer. Signal on 2d sonar is lost when I get on pad. Is the best answer to mount another ducer (2d single) beside the 2 in 1 ducer? I believe both will plug in?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/22 11:40 PM

The 2-1 doesn’t have 2d sonar, it’s just SI & DI. So, do you have a separate 2d transducer or do you have a 3-1 transducer?
Posted By: elmo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/08/22 01:35 PM

No sir. Was asking if adding a 2 d transducer would work with the existing 2 in 1 transducer. Lots less cost then going to 3 in 1 and removing the 2 in 1
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/08/22 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by elmo
No sir. Was asking if adding a 2 d transducer would work with the existing 2 in 1 transducer. Lots less cost then going to 3 in 1 and removing the 2 in 1




Ok, lots of variables here with all the different models. I assume you have Carbons or Lives, but should be the same with older graphs, except maybe the Ti series.


If your current transducer is plugged into the BLACK sonar port on the graph, then you can add a 2d transducer with no problem. Assuming it’s a bass boat and you have the ability to get into the inside bottom hull, you can install a “shoot thru hull” puck.

If you can’t get into the hull, you’d need a skimmer model, it mounts on the transom.


Now, here’s where the different model part comes. HDS Live uses a 9 pin transducer and Carbon/Gen3/Gen2 use a 7 pin.


What model of graphs do you have and what kind of boat? We’ll get you the right info that way, don’t want you ordering the wrong part.
Posted By: elmo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/09/22 05:36 PM

Thank you sir. The boat is a 21 cx Caymas bassboat. The units are all Lives. I have two 12” on the console and a 16 “ on the bow.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/09/22 05:47 PM

Ok, I’d make sure that you don’t already have a 2d puck transducer in the hull, I feel like that quality of builder would install one. But in the odd chance that they didn’t, you’d need the 9 pin “shoot through hull” puck.


If you can see the back of the graph, you should have a black plug sonar and a blue sonar port. If the blue sonar is plugged in, it’s a shoot through puck. It’s possible that the graph isn’t setup correctly and you might need to tell the graph to read the proper transducer for 2d on plane sonar. This gets more challenging over the internet to explain. But first look to see if that blue sonar port has a plug into it or not.


If you don’t have a blue plug cable, I’d let your dealer install it for you. Bilge diving isn’t fun.
Posted By: elmo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/11/22 12:34 AM

Thank you sir!
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/11/22 12:32 PM

Elmo, if you do happen to have a blue sonar plug, post back and I’ll find a video that will show you how to properly select each transducer through the 2 different channels.
Posted By: Rayzor

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/17/22 09:37 PM

I have a 1-year-old replacement 9" Lowrance Split-Shot on my TM. I sent the original back last year to see what was wrong with it, and they just sent me another one. The replacement has been doing the same thing as the original. the water depth reading goes away. This happens when I am in shallower water with grass or deep water with lots of tall grass. My Triple Shot on the helm does not do this. I am running the Split-Shot on High Chirp. Should it be on some other setting?
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/22 01:13 PM

Will the Elite 12 ti2 work with active target?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/22 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by fivebites
Will the Elite 12 ti2 work with active target?



I don’t believe so: Carbon, Live, FS and new Pro
Posted By: tmd11111

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/12/22 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by fivebites
Will the Elite 12 ti2 work with active target?



I don’t believe so: Carbon, Live, FS and new Pro


This is correct, the Ti and Ti2 will not work with it.
Posted By: fivebites

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/18/22 03:16 PM

That's what I thought. Thanks boys!
Posted By: DPDALAN

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/22 10:59 PM

I have an Elite 9 ti on front of boat and I am going to upgrade to a 9 Live and another 9 Live that will be active target only. Any reason to connect the active target unit to my nmea network? It will be strictly used for the active target. Only have one cord run to front from center console.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/28/22 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by DPDALAN
I have an Elite 9 ti on front of boat and I am going to upgrade to a 9 Live and another 9 Live that will be active target only. Any reason to connect the active target unit to my nmea network? It will be strictly used for the active target. Only have one cord run to front from center console.



The AT pointer will be accurate if used with a point1, so I’d connect it to nmea, assuming you have a point1.
Posted By: DPDALAN

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/22 02:09 AM

I do have a point 1. Use it for heading only on front. How would it know which way the trolling motor is pointed. It’s a mini kota saltwater hand control.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/22 03:30 AM

It just does, I can’t tell you how or why. But if your graph already has the point1 hooked up, that’s all you need. Nothing on the AT has a nmea connection.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 11/29/22 08:26 AM

I was told by a high-level development staff member at Lowrance that the AT has a magnetic sensor. The problem with displaying the pointer on the screen on your boat accurately is resolved by the unit knowing the boat's orientation on the magnetic compass. Example: the AT is aimed due East (90 degrees), the Live 9 doesn't know where to put the icon for the pointer. With the addition of heading for the boat (let's say 90 deg. also), then the unit will display a pointer facing straight up on the screen. A second example: AT again aiming 90 deg., but you boat facing 180 deg. From that, the unit will display a pointer icon to the left on your Live 9 screen.
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/07/22 05:32 PM

Does anyone know what's the latest software release number for the HDS Carbon and Live? If I'm not current and behind 2 or more releases can I just update to the latest one or do I need to upload each previous update?

Sorry for the "newbie" questions but unfortunately that's what I am with these HDS units

Thanks....Richard
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/11/22 05:33 AM

At Lowrance.com, select "help and support" then "software updates." You can then select your unit from the drop-down menu. Be SURE you select the "en-us" version of software (to get US English language).

You do NOT have to load each revision. You can jump to the latest one - it will contain everything that has been updated in the life of the product model.
Posted By: DPDALAN

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/30/22 10:55 PM

OK GUYS, I HAVE A LIVE 12 ON CONSOLE AND LIVE 9 ON FRONT OF BOAT NETWORKED VIA NMEA. POINT 1 IS ON BACK OF BOAT OVER REAR TRANSDUCER. I SET CONSOLE TO GPS VIA POINT 1 AND HEADING VIA PONT 1. FRONT IS SET TO GPS VIA UNIT AND HEADING VIA POINT 1. WHEN I TURN OFF EVERYTHING AND IT REBOOTS, IT IS CHANGING THE SETTINGS BY ITSELF BACK TO GPS VIA THE HEAD UNITS. I CHANGED THE ONE ON THE FRONT BACK TO GPS VIA UNIT AND HEADING VIA POINT 1 AND IT AUTOMATICALLY CHANGED CONSOLE TO THE SAME AS THE FRONT UNIT.

HOW DO I GET IT TO SAVE THE CHANGES, AND NOT CHANGE BY ITSELF?

CAN YOU DELETE EVERYTHING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO USE IN YOUR NETWORK SETTINGS DATA SOURCES?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/22 06:34 AM

One possibility is that the units are not seeing the Point-1 when they boot. If that happened, they will likely default the source setting to "internal GPS". Is there any chance you are powering up the units without powering up the NMEA network? (Remember, NMEA has its' own power connection that may be off when the units are looking for that optional source.)

As to the setting changing on the console unit also, you are probably making a global change. You need to select "this unit only" in the setting you choose.
Posted By: DPDALAN

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/31/22 02:37 PM

All units are wired to a switch. So point 1 and Nmea powers up when switch turned on. Then others are powered on individually with their power buttons. And yes, I think I was changing the global setting and not local.

Thanks for the info
Posted By: DPFishes

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/23 08:52 PM

I recently bought a used Hook Reveal 7x TS that I use on a variety of jon boats (not permanently mounted). My sonar image on both the dedicated sonar page and the Downscan/Fish Reveal view has never looked right. Instead of seeing normal sonar returns and arches, the whole screen looks like it's just got diffused dots across the screen. The best way I can describe it is if it were showing just sediment suspended in the water column. The information for water temp, depth, and the downscan image all work fine. Is it possible that just the sonar part of the Triple Shot transducer is bad? Is there something else (user error) that I should try before replacing it? I've already made sure the transducer cable is plugged in all the way...because it wasn't the first time I used it and had zero sonar info.

Thanks for any insights.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/03/23 09:30 PM

Yes, it is entirely possible for the 200 kHz crystal to fail independently of other components embedded in the "Triple Shot." Try a different transducer temporarily as a test if you know or can find someone's boat with a compatible transducer, which should not be difficult. (The standard 200 kHz only transducer should work with your unit.) Keep in mind that the crystals in transducers are somewhat fragile. A bump "just a little bit too hard" in portable handling can cause failure.
Posted By: DPFishes

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/04/23 04:52 PM

Thanks for the reply and suggestion!
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/22/23 06:47 PM

Right now I have an Elite 9 and an HDS 7 on my console. I would like to get a 12 or a 16 and use it for Active Target instead of the Elite. I don't really want to add another transducer. I have seen some Lowrance transducer switches on Ebay but can't find on the Lowrance website.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/22/23 11:34 PM

First of all, Livescope is a proprietary Garmin product, so that won't work with any Lowrance equipment. Maybe you mean Active Target?

You must at least install one new transducer (the Active Target transducer), which is normally attached to the TM or a pole mount for live sonar.
The Active Target transducer cable connects to the Active Target "black box" which then connects to the display with an Ethernet network cable (included with Live Target). If you intend to use the new unit DEDICATED to Active Target (as you seem to say), then you won't need any other transducer for that unit, but you can get more use out of the new unit for the added price of an Ethernet cable. A Lowrance Ethernet cable between the two units will allow both to see the data from your existing transducer - but the configuration must be set up correctly to do this. It's not automatic, so to speak.

I assume the Elite 9 (TS) is at the bow, and the HDS 7 at the console. For best use and flexibility, here is what I suggest if possible:

Move the existing transducer cable to the NEW display unit (because the newer unit will have a much faster image processor which is what makes the transducer data into a visible screen). Additionally, install an Ethernet network cable between the console's HDS 7 and the new 12/16 unit up front. That Ethernet connection will allow you to "see" the transducer data from the existing transducer on BOTH the new unit AND the HDS 7. Sharing the transducer data via an Ethernet cable is MUCH better than using a mechanical switch solution. My proposed configuration will also allow you to turn off the HDS 7 at the console if you don't need to use it while up front fishing. If you're at the console looking at the HDS 7, the new unit at the bow will need to be on to see the shared transducer data, but you'll likely have the outboard running when doing this so there's plenty of power available.

With that added Ethernet cable, your new unit has the option of being used for Live Target AND/OR remote sonar data (think split screen here). Traditional sonar (2D) and structure scan (down/side scan if you have it) would be available on both displays. I believe the HDS 7 isn't going to be able to see the Active Target data (not supported if I remember correctly), but don't think that would be an issue for what your probably want to accomplish.
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/23 04:36 AM

I fixed the post. Not sure why I typed Livescope. I meant Active Target. My plan is to dump the HDS 7 for a newer 12" or 16" unit which I would use primarily for Active Target but want to retain the option of using the regular transducer. Sounds like the ethernet cable is the way to go.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/23 04:41 AM

No problem. Luckily, the Elite 9 FS has ONE (and only one) physical Ethernet port. It can communicate with other Elite 9 FS's wirelessly, btw. The Ethernet cables are way overpriced for what they are, but it's part of the overall make money plan at Lowrance.
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/23 12:19 PM

Another option I have is to either get rid of the LSS structure scan transducer I have on the transom or move it to the trolling motor. I don't use the unit on the bow very often. I am guessing that the LSS transducer won't work with my Elite.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/24/23 04:29 PM

Why get rid of the LSS transducer when it's already mounted and I can't think of anything you'd gain by removing it? Do you intend to use Active Target when at the bow actively fishing? That's the typical use - live sonar is of questionable value if you're sitting at the console (no fishing pole in hand). I'm curious what setup you're trying to accomplish. Which mode do you plan to use the Active Target in? (Forward, Down, or Scout mode)
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/23 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
Why get rid of the LSS transducer when it's already mounted and I can't think of anything you'd gain by removing it? Do you intend to use Active Target when at the bow actively fishing? That's the typical use - live sonar is of questionable value if you're sitting at the console (no fishing pole in hand). I'm curious what setup you're trying to accomplish. Which mode do you plan to use the Active Target in? (Forward, Down, or Scout mode)

Right now I am using Active Target at the console and I have a fishing pole in my hand. I know it is not the best way to use it but don't fish from the bow very often. I use it primarily in Down. I am just wanting a larger screen at the console and not have to mount another transducer. A switch would be the best option for what I want to accomplish.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/25/23 04:42 PM

Now that you have said what you are doing...... (which is somewhat different from typical), I have further comment.

I have no clue why you think a transducer switch is the best option, nor what that would do for you. It will not work if you mean for one of the switch inputs to be Active Target. Active Target connects to any supported display unit indirectly with an Ethernet cable - always. Any 2D and/or Structure Scan transducer connects to one of the two connectors provided on the back of the display. With those two connectors plus Active Target coming in on an Ethernet cable, the result is that you can see whatever is on THREE transducers on the display unit without the use of any switch.

A "transducer switch" will not work with Active Target. The old-school transducer switches had connections for single-crystal transducers. Active Target itself actually utilizes an array of many individual transducer crystals molded into one transducer housing, which is why Active Target has that fat cable that connects to a signal processor and not the display unit itself.

The 12" and 16" Carbon/Live units support TWO transducers directly connected to the back of the display. In ADDITION, the Active Target accessory can be connected to either of the Ethernet ports on the back of the display. From the menu of the display you can select which transducer to view. The best way to do that is with multiple custom pages set up for each view you would might like to see - then all you have to do on the water is select the page with the view/views you want to see.
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/28/23 12:42 PM

Ok, I understand all of that. My goal is to be able to use the Elite in chart mode and use the 3 in one transducer on the 12" unit when looking for fish and structure while idling. I know how to customize pages. I primarily fish open water. My goal is to be able to utilize one transducer for both units. Right now I can use my HDS on the console without interfering with the Active Target. Not sure I could do that with the Elite. I am probably better off just spending my money to upgrade to lithium batteries.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 01/28/23 06:32 PM

You can use the Elite in chart mode - there's no need for any transducer to be connected to it for that purpose. The Elite TS could still see Active Target via an Ethernet connection, and even other views.
Your Active Target could connect to the new unit (which has 2 Ethernet connections). The second Ethernet port on that new unit would then connect to the Elite TS with an Ethernet cable.
The LSS you have currently would be supported by the new 12"/16" unit. The views from that transducer would be visible on either display unit.
I am befuddled where the sudden mention of upgrading batteries to Lithium comes from. That won't really change anything. If you are doing a lot of this with the outboard running, it's going to keep the battery charged anyway.

I'm at a loss as to what to offer at this point. I'm also not understanding what you thought a transducer switch would do for you. (That only works for 2D transducers), nor what a battery upgrade would do.
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/23 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
You can use the Elite in chart mode - there's no need for any transducer to be connected to it for that purpose. The Elite TS could still see Active Target via an Ethernet connection, and even other views.
Your Active Target could connect to the new unit (which has 2 Ethernet connections). The second Ethernet port on that new unit would then connect to the Elite TS with an Ethernet cable.
The LSS you have currently would be supported by the new 12"/16" unit. The views from that transducer would be visible on either display unit.
I am befuddled where the sudden mention of upgrading batteries to Lithium comes from. That won't really change anything. If you are doing a lot of this with the outboard running, it's going to keep the battery charged anyway.

I'm at a loss as to what to offer at this point. I'm also not understanding what you thought a transducer switch would do for you. (That only works for 2D transducers), nor what a battery upgrade would do.

I did not mean to confuse you. The battery statement was just me thinking if i have $2k to spend on the boat I might get more bang for my buck by upgrading my batteries. Although I could do both. At this point I am just spending the kids money.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/23 03:12 PM

Batteries will continue to decline in price as manufacturing volume increases, so you could do those at a later date with no harm. Lowrance is doing a unit introduction, so pricing on what they sell now is as good as it gets. Once that transition is complete, I expect pricing to rise back to something that will make you consider saying "uncle". I'd do the unit update now while the gettin' is good.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/23 03:35 PM

I don’t mean to confuse both of y’all…but the elite 9”series and the HDS 7’s all have only one Ethernet port. So you ain’t sharing AT between those units. If you had an HDS 9 or bigger, those have two Ethernet ports and that would make connecting an AT module and other Ethernet Lowrance units, so they can share the image, possible….again, only if they have the Carbon or FS model number.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/23 03:39 PM

We're not confused. Yes, the HDS 7 and Elite FS have only one Ethernet port. HOWEVER, he's looking at ditching the HDS 7 and adding a 12 or 16 inch Lowrance product in its place. With the 2 ports available on 12"/16" units, he can connect one port to the Elite FS and the other to Live Target.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/02/23 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
We're not confused. Yes, the HDS 7 and Elite FS have only one Ethernet port. HOWEVER, he's looking at ditching the HDS 7 and adding a 12 or 16 inch Lowrance product in its place. With the 2 ports available on 12"/16" units, he can connect one port to the Elite FS and the other to Live Target.

Yep. That or a HDS9.

I only know because I was in that situation myself. I had 2 Carbon 7’s. I added a 9 and now I’m adding a 12. Those little yellow jacks on the back have frustrated me with how I wanted to use the AT. Haha.
Posted By: diggerwolf

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/23 06:58 PM

I recently had a Lowrance HDS LIVE 9 and Lowrance HDS LIVE 7 installed on my boat.

In all honesty, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Can someone recommend an electronics guide specifically for Lowrance? Preferably on Texoma.

Thanks!
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 06/19/23 07:53 PM

As an alternative, or at least a beginning point, I suggest you look at the Lowrance YouTube channel. They have a library of how-to videos available that even have an "on the water" segment to show the various features and settings. There are videos specific to the Live units, so they will help you understand where to find all of the settings discussed. After watching some videos, read through the manual - multiple times. I'm a tech guy myself, but even I learn more by watching/reading multiple times.
Posted By: bronco71

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 07/06/23 07:23 AM

Fish reveal update....website down? Page doesn't load for HDS GEN3, CARBON OR ELITE TI hammer
Posted By: shanetx

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/23 06:26 PM

I bought a used boat and it has some transducers that are Lowrance. Struggling to find a lower end/cheaper side sonar unit that can connect to these but most seem to use a 2 pin power cable

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thoughts?
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/27/23 11:16 PM

What does a 2 pin power cable have to do with transducers? If you get a unit compatible with an installed transducer, said unit (new) always comes WITH a power cable. You would simply install that unit's power cable.
Posted By: shanetx

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 12:48 PM

Novice here so my bad Im surely doing something wrong. Through research and other input I was advised that one of these cables is for power and one goes to the transducer. These cables are already wired and ran under the floor decking and want to reuse them cuase im on a budget after buying the boat itself and as a rookie i don't want to start ripping up floor decking and rewiring my new (well new to me be used) boat.

The boat has 2 Lowrance units already and both have a 2 pin power cable, not this version/model of power cable.

I've been to bass pro and looked at some units and they also ahve the 2 pin power cable.

Im just hoping for some input on the best bang for my bucket here. What is the budget friendly unit that uses these style of cables so i dont have to re-wire anything. the hope is to by a used headunit somewhere.

What is a simple power cable install for you would be me destroying my new boat, pissing off wife and not being able to fish for 2 months while i try to pay someone to fix it, im not handy with boats...yet
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 05:10 PM

As a novice you might be (actually likely) mistaken about "ripping up floor decking." Many owners readily change electronics on their boats (when they have the $ for it) - it's not a destructive process. At the helm (steering wheel location) the power cable connection would be under the dash. At the bow, it's made behind a panel held on with a few screws, typically. Someone who offers boat electronics services would charge a power cable install fee low enough to not be a deciding factor in which particular Lowrance unit to buy. A transducer costs more, and is more difficult to install (so more $), therefore matching the transducer would be desirable from a financial perspective. If there are silver tags attached to those cables, post photos of what is on them. That will be the part # info that can identify the cables to match to units.
Posted By: shanetx

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 05:19 PM

I wish the silver tags still existed. These are on the front trolling motor and all wires go under the front deck by the pedal and pop out at the batteries in the back. While one day i want to really figure out the wiring and re-do stuff to make the boat my own, right now i have so little time between work and kids i get about 2 hours to fish a week if im lucky and would rather be on the water then rewiring stuff. Just was looking for an easy out to plug in extra little sonar unit. Shame previous owner didnt sell it with boat.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 05:30 PM

Can you reach owner? Ask them what unit, then you can search for a unit that is cable-compatible with that unit model #. For instance, if it is one of the family of HDS units, then all HDS units are compatible, but pricepoint units won't be.

BTW, a power cable replacement isn't all the way to the battery. The cable that comes with units is about 4 feet long. Whatever is in the boat, I assure you it's spliced within 4 feet of the cable end. Complete removal isn't necessary to change a power cable. The transducers are a different story - all one piece cable that can't be cut.
Posted By: bronco71

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 06:51 PM

here are some pics of my Lowrance cables: some of the power cables have 2 cables going to the plug, one is for power and the other is NMEA 0183 that you won't use (different from NMEA 2000}
blue power cable (HDS up to Gen 3, not sure after that, and ELITE TI)
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tag on blue power cable
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red power cable (interchangeable with the blue power cable)
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transducer cable from built in trolling motor ducer, also same as several other Lowrance ducers
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transducer cable for Elite TI
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Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 09:30 PM

Shane, you asked about a “side sonar” graph that would work with those. A Lowrance HDS: gen1, gen2, gen3 & Carbon will fit both of those cables. BUT, that is NOT a side imaging transducer, you would need a LSS transducer (and possibly module) to get side imaging.


As mentioned, don’t worry about the pin number, that’s for something that you’ll never use.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/28/23 11:27 PM

I must be getting rusty - totally overlooked that the presented connector was for a 2D transducer! As such, he can't have side-scan by simply bolting a new head unit on. He would need to add at least a transducer as you say, but views installing that (cables/transducers) to be beyond what he is willing to do.

Shane is a novice, and we have to remember that with the info he provides. He says "These are on the front trolling motor and all wires go under the front deck by the pedal and pop out at the batteries in the back." Parts of that statement make sense, but I'm still left unsure.

Are the two connectors at the bow of the boat? ....but maybe you don't "really" know where they go? (I wouldn't, without seeing your boat, and you may be assuming things. What trolling motor do you have? Is there a transducer mounted on it? Show us a photo of the motor (where the prop is). The transducer cable you have could connect to a transducer in the stern area, or it might connect to a transducer on or inside the trolling motor nosecone. A photo will help answer that question.

If you're wanting to use side-scan, you may not realize as a novice that at the bow is not really where most people use that. You'd want side-scan on a unit mounted at the driver console so you could look for structure as you idle around.
Posted By: shanetx

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/29/23 02:25 AM

Thanks for taking the time guys.

I made a pretty [censored] typo "find a lower end/on the cheaper side sonar unit"

Not side imaging but just 2d sonar like...

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or whatever the best the transducers can do at a decent price point for a clear rookie just starting out - im not trying to live scope or anything.

The boat (which is https://www.trackerboats.com/bass/previous/2019-pro-team-175-txw-tournament-edition.html)

Came with a lowrance unit on the bow already (stock) with a transducer on the trolling motor stock and previous owner added a 2nd one would be nice to hook something up to.

and flippin-out is correct i do not really know where they go. I get now that they could be spliced or even just run to the fuse box under the dash. I should not assume when im trying to learn (im in IT/software and hate when people assume they know how to fix my code so maybe i can relate to your frustration here)

What i do know is there is an after market transducer mounted on the trolling motor and these two unused cables I pictured. I can see where the previous headunit was mounted on the bow (4 screws and a rectangle) the base looks alot like the unit i pictured but that unit has the 2 pin power cable.

I can not fully trace the cables as they go under the bow deck via a stock cable port for the trolling motor and come out a port built into the trolling motor pedal, very nicely and neatly wired.


It is a min kota trolling motor (the link i provided above is the actual boat/model/year and shows the trolling motor, and two stock units)





I hope this information helps and sorry again - thanks for helping me learn this new hobby. Lets not focus on my [censored] none sense and maybe i just ask a question.

As a guy just starting to learn how to bass fish and is on a budget, what do you recommend i get that connects to the cables i pictures that is plug and play, will help me see some bass and not squint at my current split screen.
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/29/23 02:34 AM

Post a photo of the Minn Kota motor housing. I am baffled by the "two transducers" statement when you only have one known transducer connector for the back of a Lowrance unit. Some MK motors have an optional transducer built it, but it will not do downscan, so many don't use it - instead they add a Lowrance 2D/downscan transducer to the motor housing with a pipe clamp. Photos will help us a lot.
Posted By: shanetx

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 08/29/23 02:34 PM

I will take some pics today. The two transducers is because there is one stock and one the previous owner added. At first i didnt realize one was the stock unit and kept including it in my write ups. I thought the front unit used a transducer on the transom not realizing it uses this one on the TM.

IN the end there is 1 after market transducer added and 1 pair of cables (power/unit)
Posted By: SenkoSam

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 09/19/23 08:44 AM

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The Hook4 unit shown above has been in my basement for years and for the life of me can't figure out why it came with such thin power wires. Any idea the best way to hook it to the battery? Bad enough the plug has to be jammed in tight to turn on and even then turns off ever so often with the least motion. I decided to make it portable for my smaller boats. Works good - when it works.

Good thing tech support at Lowrance emailed a user manual or I would have been sh** out of luck.
Posted By: Littledog

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/06/23 10:50 PM

Installing AT-2.
I see two options for “enable” (yellow) wire on the AT-2 power cable.:
1. Use a separate switch to enable the unit after the host Live unit has been turned on. Switch ties the yellow wire to 12v)
2. Connect the yellow wire from the AT-2 to the yellow wire coming from the Light be unit so that the AT is “enabled” when the Live unit powers up.

Which one is better? Reasons?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/07/23 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Littledog
Installing AT-2.
I see two options for “enable” (yellow) wire on the AT-2 power cable.:
1. Use a separate switch to enable the unit after the host Live unit has been turned on. Switch ties the yellow wire to 12v)
2. Connect the yellow wire from the AT-2 to the yellow wire coming from the Light be unit so that the AT is “enabled” when the Live unit powers up.

Which one is better? Reasons?




Separate switch allows you to turn off the AT module. If you’re going to use it 100% of the time, use the yellow wake up wire. If you’re only going to use it part of the time, use a switch.
Posted By: LittleGazoo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 10/08/23 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by Littledog
Installing AT-2.
I see two options for “enable” (yellow) wire on the AT-2 power cable.:
1. Use a separate switch to enable the unit after the host Live unit has been turned on. Switch ties the yellow wire to 12v)
2. Connect the yellow wire from the AT-2 to the yellow wire coming from the Light be unit so that the AT is “enabled” when the Live unit powers up.

Which one is better? Reasons?




Separate switch allows you to turn off the AT module. If you’re going to use it 100% of the time, use the yellow wake up wire. If you’re only going to use it part of the time, use a switch.

Put a simple toggle-switch at the bow panel on the yellow wire between the unit and AT2
Posted By: quisdraw

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/06/23 10:28 PM

Does the blue connector on my Motorguide xi5 connect to my HDS Live 12?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/07/23 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by quisdraw
Does the blue connector on my Motorguide xi5 connect to my HDS Live 12?



Is it a nmea connection or a transducer cable? If it’s a transducer cable, you might need a 7-9 adapter. Post a picture of it.
Posted By: quisdraw

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/07/23 03:29 PM

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Posted By: quisdraw

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/07/23 03:30 PM

HDS blue connector is 9 pin
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/18/23 08:59 PM

I have a carbon 12 on the console , I temporarily replaced my carbon 9 on the bow with a HDS gen 3,12 inch,
I deleted all waypoints on the gen 3 before hooking it up, I expected it to load all the way points
from the carbon unit on the bow. It did not. I found on settings where to allow for waypoints to be sent and
received , I set both units to enable, but still no joy.
suggestions ?

MO
Posted By: T Bird

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/18/23 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mo
I have a carbon 12 on the console , I temporarily replaced my carbon 9 on the bow with a HDS gen 3,12 inch,
I deleted all waypoints on the gen 3 before hooking it up, I expected it to load all the way points
from the carbon unit on the bow. It did not. I found on settings where to allow for waypoints to be sent and
received , I set both units to enable, but still no joy.
suggestions ?

MO


PM Larry here on the TFF. He's the man to help you.
https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/users/115576
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/23 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Mo
I have a carbon 12 on the console , I temporarily replaced my carbon 9 on the bow with a HDS gen 3,12 inch,
I deleted all waypoints on the gen 3 before hooking it up, I expected it to load all the way points
from the carbon unit on the bow. It did not. I found on settings where to allow for waypoints to be sent and
received , I set both units to enable, but still no joy.
suggestions ?

MO



You need an Ethernet cable for them to transfer that way. If you don’t have an E-net cable, you can save them to a micro SD card and import them into the other graph.

If you just have a nmea 2000 cable, they will add wypts BUT ONLY when both graphs are turned on. They will not auto sync with nmea. The Ethernet cable is the superior data sharing option.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/23 06:00 PM


Ethernet cable in place


MO
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/23 06:26 PM

If they aren’t automatically sharing wypts, then you have either a bad port or enet cable. Theres no magical settings to turn on, they just share if everything is working properly.

The 12’s have 2 enet ports, try the other ports.
Posted By: Mo

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/19/23 07:26 PM

Thanks , I will try the other ports next time out.

Mo
Posted By: Lonnie Strebeck

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 12/24/23 06:13 PM

Nice unit
Posted By: Richard G

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 02/23/24 10:19 PM

My Carbon 12 has an issue with the chart function. I'm getting a black circle or half circle that follows my current location icon. As I move with my trolling motor the blacked out area also moves. None of the rest of the chart is affected. Also if I am not moving, the entire chart will move on the screen.

I am using the internal GPS antenna.

Anyone have an idea what is happening?
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/12/24 04:17 PM

Does anyone know the overall width of a 12" Lowrance Live? I measured my Elite 9 and it was 12" so I added 3" but not sure if 15" is a good measurement for the 12" Live HDS.
Posted By: fluker

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/24 01:43 AM

W 13.68 inches
H 9 inches
D 3.26 inches
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Lowrance SONAR - 03/13/24 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by fluker
W 13.68 inches
H 9 inches
D 3.26 inches

Thanks, I Googled it and found that after I posted. Not sure if that includes the knobs. I should be OK even if it doesn't.
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