Forums59
Topics1,039,267
Posts13,961,847
Members144,197
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Bait Check 1..2..
#12877040
08/26/18 12:43 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100
FW Carper
OP
Outdoorsman
|
OP
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100 |
I've been struggling with good cheap baits that will stay on the hook. Corn is ok, but is easily picked off by turtles and really doesn't stay on that well. I tried making my own dough bait with mixed results. It's hard to find consistency which leaves you with a smelly bait that will stay on the hook. Either I make a bait the fish love, or I make something that they can't pick of the hook. Never the combination of both.
So, i thought perhaps I will remove myself from the equation. I have to give credit to Curt0407 for a great idea which worked well, but I'm still only coming up with catfish. Let's face it, they're kind of duds in putting up a fight.
My mind went to work. And I thought, "Marshmallows!" And as I was checking out, I thought, "Gummy bears!" So I bought them and then looked them up on the internet. Turns out they are legit.
Anyone had luck with either? I plan to dip them in cherry flavored fish oil or peanut butter.
Looking for great carp places in/near Ft. Worth.
PBs Common 8.4 Mirror 14 Buffalo 26 Blue Cat - 3.5 Channel - 1.5 Turtle - 4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12877216
08/26/18 05:50 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,690
BigPoppa007
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,690 |
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: BigPoppa007]
#12877522
08/27/18 12:48 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,478
TXMulti-Species
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,478 |
Exactly what I was gonna link him to, love TAFishing. Making your own baits is a tedious process. I use premade baits from Big Carp Tackle in OK. Mainline Response Boilies are a staple, as well as Tiger Nuts, although they require a bit of prep and flavoring if you want it, and Enterprise Popup Sweetcorn to tip off my boilies/tigers to give it a bit of a neutrally buoyant property. The popup corn is plastic so it's really hard for turtles to take it off.
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12877622
08/27/18 02:58 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,902
fmrmbmlm
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,902 |
I've had pretty consistent luck with making my own dough bait. 1 Cup all purpose flour, 1 cup cornmeal, 4 slices white bread crumbled, 3/4 cup brown sugar, 1/4 cup white sugar, 2 tsp vanilla, 1 1/2 tsp ground cinnamon, pinch of salt. Use a stand mixer and dough hook. Put all ingredients in the bowl and stir to mix, then mix with dough hook and slowly add water until it gets to your consistency. If you add too much water just add more flour. Stays on treble hook really well, have been able to reel in 2-3 times and cast back out. ON single hook it will come off as you reel in. Takes about 10 minutes to make, keeps in fridge a long time.
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12878582
08/28/18 01:07 AM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992
Caribou
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992 |
Are you fishing with a regular hook or a hair rig? And are you using a method mix or just using the bait as the only attractant? If you dont know what either of those things are, send me a pm and I can help fill you in on some very effective techniques.
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: Caribou]
#12879166
08/28/18 04:11 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100
FW Carper
OP
Outdoorsman
|
OP
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100 |
I have a hair rig. I bait the hair and put something on the hook to disguise it somewhat. I don't really do any method. I will say, I had very little success with the gummy bears, but I went at a very bad time to try them out. It was still very bright and hot. BUT... they definitely stay on the hook. The marshmallows seemed to dissolve almost instantly.
Looking for great carp places in/near Ft. Worth.
PBs Common 8.4 Mirror 14 Buffalo 26 Blue Cat - 3.5 Channel - 1.5 Turtle - 4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12879725
08/28/18 11:26 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,048
whiterockjesse
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,048 |
plastic corn works well and its my go to bait on a hair in the summer because of turtles . also i used old fashion oats and cream corn with some flavoring .wheter it be jello packs or cinnamon, chili powder, fajita mix etc packed around the weight . the extra flavor will draw them in quicker to your hook bait ... i use half a tub of oats to i whole can of cream corn as the base ,add flavor and mix good in a f gallon paint bucket . this will not pack til it has soaked in the cream corn ( about 20 minutes ) so be patient or make the night before . use a carolina rig and pack this around you weight . the water is not as ideal right now as it will be in cooler months so it still can be hard to get a bite at times ... if you pm me your adress i can send you some plastic corn to get you started . tight lines
P.B. Carp ....29 lbs .... P.B. Buffalo 34.4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12879729
08/28/18 11:31 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,048
whiterockjesse
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,048 |
ps i have caught on pack bait and jelly beans , pecans, crape myrtle buds, potatos chumks, apple chunks and no telling what else .heres one on jelly beans
P.B. Carp ....29 lbs .... P.B. Buffalo 34.4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: whiterockjesse]
#12880002
08/29/18 05:30 AM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992
Caribou
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992 |
ive always preferred "maize" or boilies for bait. We used to have a boilie making group and 8 of us would get together and make 150-200 lbs of boilies in a night. Kind of miss that. Now i would just buy boilies. for maize, get some deer corn, and boil it just until it is soft enough to get a bait needle through it (add flavoring to the water you are cooking it in). works beautifully on a hair rig. These baits will work, but they will work 10x better with method mix. i prefer to us panko bread crumbs and enough cream corn to make it pack into balls. super easy to make. dont waste your time trying to find a new bait that works. stick with the baits that are tried and tested and you will see alot more success IMO. plastic corn works well and its my go to bait on a hair in the summer because of turtles . also i used old fashion oats and cream corn with some flavoring .wheter it be jello packs or cinnamon, chili powder, fajita mix etc packed around the weight . the extra flavor will draw them in quicker to your hook bait ... i use half a tub of oats to i whole can of cream corn as the base ,add flavor and mix good in a f gallon paint bucket . this will not pack til it has soaked in the cream corn ( about 20 minutes ) so be patient or make the night before . use a carolina rig and pack this around you weight . the water is not as ideal right now as it will be in cooler months so it still can be hard to get a bite at times ... if you pm me your adress i can send you some plastic corn to get you started . tight lines
Jesse has been doing this for a long time. thats good advice, and a nice gesture. take him up on it. Then save up $40-50 and order some baits from bigcarptackle.com
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880003
08/29/18 05:36 AM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992
Caribou
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992 |
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880256
08/29/18 02:28 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100
FW Carper
OP
Outdoorsman
|
OP
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100 |
Wow! Thank you guys. I actually ordered some plastic corn and have tried it. Do you soak it in anything to make it smell better or will they just bite it because they know what it is?
I may break down and just buy some boilies as suggested. The money I have spent trying to figure it out has likely been more than I would have just going with the flow.
I'm very grateful for the guidance!
Looking for great carp places in/near Ft. Worth.
PBs Common 8.4 Mirror 14 Buffalo 26 Blue Cat - 3.5 Channel - 1.5 Turtle - 4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880306
08/29/18 03:13 PM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992
Caribou
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992 |
I dont have my carp gear anymore, or Id invite you out to fish with me to reduce the learning curve. I developed a hobby for shooting, and wasnt fishing much, so I sold off my carp kit. Wish I hadnt. It was some of the most fun fishing.
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880338
08/29/18 03:39 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100
FW Carper
OP
Outdoorsman
|
OP
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100 |
I appreciate the thought as if we were going out tomorrow! Interesting note, I'm having very little trouble catching catfish and was utilizing the hair along with one piece of bait on the hook. When I get a fruitless bite and do a bait check, the bait from the hair is the one they chose. It's hard to say which one is hooking my successes because I know it can become dislodged during the "struggle" if you want to call it that with 1/2 lb catfish. This could be read as a criticism of the hair, but it is meant as entirely the opposite.
Looking for great carp places in/near Ft. Worth.
PBs Common 8.4 Mirror 14 Buffalo 26 Blue Cat - 3.5 Channel - 1.5 Turtle - 4
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880350
08/29/18 03:49 PM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992
Caribou
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,992 |
I appreciate the thought as if we were going out tomorrow! Interesting note, I'm having very little trouble catching catfish and was utilizing the hair along with one piece of bait on the hook. When I get a fruitless bite and do a bait check, the bait from the hair is the one they chose. It's hard to say which one is hooking my successes because I know it can become dislodged during the "struggle" if you want to call it that with 1/2 lb catfish. This could be read as a criticism of the hair, but it is meant as entirely the opposite. Are you using a bait stop? Hairs are meant to be used with pretty hard baits, and you should be putting a small piece of stick or a commercial bait stop through the loop to get the bait to stay on. I did a tournament at grapevine a few years ago and caught 5 or 6 fish on one hair with 3 pieces of maize on it.
Last edited by Caribou; 08/29/18 03:50 PM.
|
|
Re: Bait Check 1..2..
[Re: FW Carper]
#12880463
08/29/18 05:24 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100
FW Carper
OP
Outdoorsman
|
OP
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 100 |
I use a broken toothpick typically, but today was experiment time to see where they were biting and to test whether the hair was "hooking them up."
Admittedly, not that scientific or reliable, but it did tell me something and something is better than nothing.
Looking for great carp places in/near Ft. Worth.
PBs Common 8.4 Mirror 14 Buffalo 26 Blue Cat - 3.5 Channel - 1.5 Turtle - 4
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|