Forums59
Topics1,038,925
Posts13,955,565
Members144,183
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Luke Clausen DQ ed
#11575740
05/01/16 01:37 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,791
slim 285
OP
TFF Celebrity
|
OP
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,791 |
What the heck did he do. Dadgummit he was on my fantasy team!!!! This is going to blow it all to hell
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11575743
05/01/16 01:40 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,293
mudd
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,293 |
Bassfan has the story. From his statement I've seen that done several times here for the FLW Cup on the river the exact same way. Just being around someone talking bout spots and areas to someone else
93 Ranger 482vs 95 Bullet 20cc
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11575748
05/01/16 01:42 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,437
BThomas
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,437 |
Had a reaction to a question on the random polygraph
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11575769
05/01/16 01:51 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,046
Fast Lane
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,046 |
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11575850
05/01/16 02:20 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,579
Fishspanker
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,579 |
The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11575993
05/01/16 03:53 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 45,685
Big Red 12
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 45,685 |
Not a fan. However, the ruling seems a little out of whack.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11576138
05/01/16 11:47 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,198
the skipper
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,198 |
If the conversation was truly nothing then he wouldn't have thought about it when asked the question, which led to the lie. I don't know the man and he probably is a good guy but he messed up. I can promise you he isn't the only one but hopefully this sets an example for others that their fishing should be what separates them, not how much info they can get. It probably wasn't a "give me all your info" conversation but it was enough to make him rethink about it when asked, therefore, something was questionable in the conversation and he knew it at the time. If it was totally honest he would have never thought twice about it and would have passed. My $.02
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11576175
05/01/16 12:28 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 571
andy52887
Pro Angler
|
Pro Angler
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 571 |
To me not talking to your buddies is one of the most ridiculous things about tournament fishing. I know me personally in all the years I have been fishing and someone told me where and what to throw hasn't worked out hardly ever. Yes it may help you develop something of your own but not just show up and whack them on tournament day. I have a good buddy that I would put my life on him not cheating and he had to take a polygraph and was not able to determine whether he was lying so my other buddy was brought in and passed no problem.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11576649
05/01/16 07:41 PM
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,582
ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,582 |
someone volunteering information when not asked is not grounds for a DQ, while he received it, he did not ask for it. So what this means is that every morning non tournament anglers can go to the launch while they are waiting for takeoff and say hey I caught them on this over in this creek. Before you can get the no information out of your mouth, whether or not the info was used or not, the info was received and that is should not be grounds for a DQ.
Asking for it is one thing, but someone volunteering it is another.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11576781
05/01/16 09:22 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,000
Neal G
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,000 |
For some reasons I am not surprised Clausen was randomly selected by BASS.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11577177
05/02/16 12:56 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,198
the skipper
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,198 |
From what he said he had a conversation with his friend about where other competitors were fishing. That means instead of saying "we need to talk about something else" he participated in it. He openly admitted that so no arguing there. Now his friend didn't put him on fish but knowing other guys patterns or areas could help you out in what areas or patterns you try. Info is info, it doesn't have to be "go here, fish with this". These guys are pros. They need to find their own deal and can talk about it to friends after the event.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11577366
05/02/16 02:37 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,743
Ranger-188-2007
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,743 |
Possible infraction on rule C3.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: Brandon Dickenson]
#11577800
05/02/16 02:08 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 50,023
fouzman
Methuselah
|
Methuselah
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 50,023 |
Don't think so, and this is why... I never did say, You shouldnt be telling me this, Read more: http://www.bassfan.com/docktalk_article/...0#ixzz47VVvCFa4I've had pros stop me mid-sentence and say "I can't receive ANY outside information". More than once. Doesn't matter that Clausen didn't ask for the information. He received information from an outside source during the no-info period. Whether that information helped him or not is irrelevant. The DQ will stand, imo.
Last edited by fouzman; 05/02/16 02:10 PM.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
|
|
Re: Luke Clausen DQ ed
[Re: slim 285]
#11577873
05/02/16 02:43 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,210
shotgunwilly
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,210 |
This is a good reason why polygraphs CAN screw a truly innocent person. Here's why:
Polygraphs all depend on how the subject reacts to a question. If the rule states that "no information may be received" then a person that over analyzes everything, because he's trying to abide by every rule as best as he possibly can, will be wondering if every little blip that he overheard someone talking about in the isle of some tackle shop would be "information" that the rules say you can't receive. And many of you will say "That's ridiculous, that obviously isn't information that you received that would help you," but that's all in how you personally interpret how the rules are read. A person that doesn't think twice about this would pass a polygraph with flying colors, but a person trying to be as honest as he possibly can that over analyzes, could make a blip on the polygraph.
I have no opinion on whether Clausen should be DQ'd or not.
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|