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Rivets or Screws? #9797041 03/05/14 04:05 PM
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I need to install some pad eyes and a scotty rod holder on my daughter's yak. I do not have access to the inside hull. So my question is, am I better off using rivets or screws? Any specific brand or type I should use to avoid rust? Should I add a little marine goop to seal the entry point of the rivet/screw? I appreciate the feedback.

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I prefer screws with well nuts. Use locktite and marine silicon and you will have a perfect water tight seal, and its easier than using a rivet gun to me

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Either well nuts or rivets will work.


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Re: Rivets or Screws? [Re: JJ4MEL] #9797272 03/05/14 05:25 PM
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Do you have a rivet gun? Have you used it before. If you do, and your comfortable with it, I would use a Rivet gun. If not...screws, nuts work just as well.

There's no wrong choice between the two options...just preference.

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Originally Posted By: Kayak_and_Crossbones

Do you have a rivet gun? Have you used it before. If you do, and your comfortable with it, I would use a Rivet gun. If not...screws, nuts work just as well.

There's no wrong choice between the two options...just preference.


im not a riveteer or anything, but is there something special to use a rivet gun? For well nuts, don't you have to drill a bigger hole for the nut to fit?
For me, i prefer rivets because they are easy to use, and the rivets themself are cheap. removing them is easy as well.


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For something that makes a small hole and isn't terribly weight bearing (pad eyes, rod holders, etc) I'll use either rivets or self tapping screws. Something that makes a big hole (hatch) I'd go with nuts/bolts. Goop it for sure.


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Being that he said he does not have access to the inside of his hull I would say rivets are the answer


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Originally Posted By: CanadiYak
Being that he said he does not have access to the inside of his hull I would say rivets are the answer


if you go with well nuts you also don't need hull access

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I don't have a whole lot of $$ to invest in this small project. Rivets may be the best option due to a smaller hole in the yak. However, I would have to buy a rivet gun. The well nuts seem like a strong hold and the easier option for me since I have the tools needed. Just concerned about the bigger hole. I appreciate the feedback.

I'm curious, if I bought the product from a local kayak dealer, would they install for free? Or would a fee be involved? It is just pad eyes, so maybe not.

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You can borrow my rivet gun--PM sent.


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you can get a stanley rivet gun at homedepot for 10$ and you will have it for anything else you might want to use it for not just kayaking.

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Rivets for the padeyes and well nuts for the rod holder. That's what I would do anyhow...
Just be sure to use the correct size bit for the well nuts. thumb

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I had never used rivets prior to watching a YouTube video on how to install flush mount rod holders. That being said, it was just as easy as it seemed in the video. I bought a 15 dollar rivet gun that came with dozens of rivets of various size, and it worked perfect for the task. I did not have access to the hull so they worked well. I put a ring of caulk around the base before pushing the rod holder all the way down and wiped away the excess. It looks great and has worked well. I would suggest rivets.

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If you use rivets make sure you use the backing washers or the rivets that spread out like an anchor bolt. A rivet will eventually pull out of the plastic if you don't.


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