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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Frank the Tank] #8815482 04/11/13 04:25 PM
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I have a 18.6 triton and I get scared sometimes. Thinking about moving up to 20 footer. But cost and gas keep me from it. So I keep an eye on the weather from my handy dandy iPhone.

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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Stompy] #8815578 04/11/13 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stompy
Just get a 21' 9" Charger 596 and you ain't got no worries..I've been in all the top name boats and it's the best boat I've ever been in for ride and rough water.
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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Workfishngolf37] #8815680 04/11/13 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Workfishngolf37
I have a 18.6 triton and I get scared sometimes. Thinking about moving up to 20 footer. But cost and gas keep me from it. So I keep an eye on the weather from my handy dandy iPhone.
Get you a 21 xs or hp, softest ride I have been in although I have not been in a Legend or Champion.


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Douglas J] #8815749 04/11/13 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.

I would say 70% of the ride is the driver's ability and knowing his boat. The other 30% is length and hull design


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: STEVE B] #8816545 04/11/13 09:34 PM
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My god how long is this topic going to be beat to death its all opinion get the boat that fits your budget plane an simple


I think you meant "plain", sir. What popular topic hasn't been beat to death here or elsewhere? Just be thankful all you have to do is read. Or choose not to.
yep, people gonna get gun shy about asking questions if they keep getting bashed around here..


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Frank the Tank] #8816649 04/11/13 10:11 PM
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So...I haven't seen it mentioned, but I think prop performance can make a difference here as well. My Ranger likes to ride a little higher with a Fury, which I feel allows me to get up and ride across the waves AND lets me keep the nose up at slower speeds. The Tempst I was running didn't quite generate the lift like the Fury.

I think it makes a noticeable difference in the way the boat handles and responds in all water conditions.


Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Ranger_Ag] #8816664 04/11/13 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ranger_Ag
So...I haven't seen it mentioned, but I think prop performance can make a difference here as well. My Ranger likes to ride a little higher with a Fury, which I feel allows me to get up and ride across the waves AND lets me keep the nose up at slower speeds. The Tempst I was running didn't quite generate the lift like the Fury.

I think it makes a noticeable difference in the way the boat handles and responds in all water conditions.
.... thx! I didn't know that could make that much of a difference


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Bug-e] #8816679 04/11/13 10:21 PM
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There is a lot of talk about the driver...how are you supposed to drive in rough water? I'm a relative newbie to bass boats.

Great question!!
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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Frank the Tank] #8816713 04/11/13 10:38 PM
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Well...I don't consider myself an expert by any means. But I would throw out the following suggestions.

1.) Take note of the wind direction and try to use the natural layout of the lake to your advantage. For instance, on Conroe with a strong south west wind, I know I can ride the east bank and get around the lake fairly easily.

2.) Try to avoid bulk heads when going around points. Seriously, it becomes like a washing machine/bath tub. There isn't an easy way to navigate water like that because it is completely unpredictable. Better to go a little further out and swing wide in my opinion.

3.) Try not to take the waves straight on in either direction. Go across them at angles. If you are going against them, try to avoid the white caps.

4.) This ties back to 1, 2, and 3, but the shortest route might not be the best route.

5.) And this is the biggest of all; take your time and operate your boat in a manner that gives you the most confidence. Know what you can and can't do. Always be prepared.


Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Dax Davis] #8816766 04/11/13 10:53 PM
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[quote=Dax Davis]My god how long is this topic going to be beat to death its all opinion get the boat that fits your budget plane an simple[/
Really not trying to be an A$$, but why do so many people complain about a topics that someone starts, if you don't like it just don't open it, read it, then complain. Sorry I just don't get it !


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: hopalong] #8816926 04/11/13 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: hopalong
bottom line is your not gonna be runnin n gunnin in anything over 2', if ya are I hope your hull can handle it.
in rough water running with the waves is much easier to smooth out a ride, you can run some speed even in 2'+.
running against the waves is gonna get rough if you don't know how to trim and balance the hull for the conditions, too much weight back/bow too high and its slam time, too much forward/bow too far down and your gonna spear some if they are big enough.
flat hulls will tend to ride up and over, deep v hulls will tend to cut through, you want to cut through.
one thing I see a lot is people over estimating the wave height, trough to crest 4' would be the width of a sheet of plywood, think of it that way.
something else that helps navigate rough stuff is know the lake, shallow water means higher crests, deeper water means lesser height and generally more spacing = easier to run.
since the op has a bad back getting seat time in the rough stuff would not be a good idea just to learn, the best thing would be to go to a big lake on windy days and watch how different drivers handle the rough stuff, if ya can make it on a tourney day then they will be trying to run as hard as they can.
I watched the skeeter demo drivers beat test riders to death on fork sat before the ram big bass, runnin to much of an diagonal, runnin too much trim/bow up, doing a lot of stuff that made the boats look like an offshore race of 50' boats in 8' swells.

ya gotta learn how to manage the boat to make it ride like ya want and get the performance out of the hull, I will stick with my champion 184 and know I can handle just about anything thrown at me.


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Frank the Tank] #8816989 04/12/13 12:02 AM
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I LOVE My 21' Nitro Z-9...

I've been in them ALL,
It Don't get ANY Better than that!!!

Enough Said.....!!!

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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Nitro Man] #8817038 04/12/13 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nitro Man
I LOVE My 21' Nitro Z-9...

I've been in them ALL,
It Don't get ANY Better than that!!!

Enough Said.....!!!

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I never would've guessed that! rolfmao



Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Frank the Tank] #8817065 04/12/13 12:27 AM
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know your equipment and keep it maintained, with good bilge pumps. I only have the opinion of my '98 19.5' Triton, 200 Johnson. Faster and more fuel efficient w/ 14" x 28p Raker II, but my 13.5 x 25p Renegade is best in rough water. Just like race cars changing gears in the rear end at different tracks. I believe the hot foot, 4 or 5 blade props give the driver more control as well as jack plates. I agree with Fouzman on the order, but in big mean water, prepare to get wet, slow down and "know" your equipment is working.


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Re: Rough water: boat or length matter more? [Re: Railhead] #8817124 04/12/13 12:49 AM
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A good driver can polish a turd when he has the room to drive in any direction needed to get the smoothest, driest ride. What about a shotgun start in a tournament? Its pretty hard to not get beat to death by the same turd when you have to point and go, no matter the wave direction. I think we all know which brands shine naturally and dont need polishing. grin

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