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#7480138 - 05/01/12 06:27 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Protects website states 15 min @ 350

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#7480271 - 05/01/12 07:03 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: ragged edge]
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Originally Posted By: ragged edge
Rad what do you think about making this a sticky note of some sort?

Would be a good one....I dont have the powers here...Its an older formula,If skip has any updates ,I bet we can get it done......

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#7483624 - 05/02/12 01:47 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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I have talked to CSI (Pro Tec) many times about this and it has to do with a chemical reaction that happens at a certain temperature and time. It's not going to stay on very well at all without the curing it. It will chip off just being in a box riding around in the boat. The better or I should say closer to their recommendations of temp and time the harder it will be. Also the longer the paint is in the oven the darker the paint will get. Like I see it especially with FL Red and if it's in a little too long it's not near as bright, almost Orange looking, but a little too long and it's a dull reddish brown looking unexciting color.

I have got them to send me temps and time several times as they have changed it over the years.They do allow for if you have a weed guard then it has to be in a longer time at less heat. Not optimal, but works.

Most of their paint color last time gave 2 options with one applying to almost all of them except for Pearl was near 400 degrees, at least 392 for 10 minutes (this means the lead is at that temp for that long, not the jig has been in the oven that long so I add a couple minutes to allow warm up time) is magic as far as the chemical reaction.

Yes I posted the numbers above from a paper I got from them and from talking with them on the phone several times.



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#7483640 - 05/02/12 01:51 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: CrappieHappy]
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Originally Posted By: crappiehappy
Protects website states 15 min @ 350


Give them a call and you will see they don't even mention the 350. Talk to their Tech guys.

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#7504942 - 05/08/12 01:12 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Cure it you wont go wrong. Its hard as a rock.

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#7522812 - 05/12/12 11:03 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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i always cure mine.
If you forget to clean the eye out first, or if the paint melts down and covers the eye, use a dremel with a matching size drill bit to drill out the eyelet holes. much faster, safer and easier than any other method i have tried.

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#7762841 - 07/15/12 08:41 AM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Absolutely.....

Very basic mixing chart.
To Make: Mix:
Aqua: Add a small amount of Blue to Green
Coral : Add a small amount of Yellow to Pink
Dusty Rose: Add a small amount of Black to Red
Light Tan: Add a small amount of Black to Orange
Magenta : Add a small amount of Red to Wine
Brown: Add a small amount of Blue to Orange
Moss Green: Add a small amount of Red to Green
Gray: Add a small amount of Black to White
Pink: Add a small amount of Red to White
Purple: Add a small amount of Blue to Red
Teal Green: Add a small amount of Black to Green
Wine: Add a small amount of Red to Purple
Lime: Add a small amount of Green to Yellow
Turquoise: Add a small amount of Green to Blue


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#7762843 - 07/15/12 08:42 AM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Just wanted to get an idea/share knowledge of what else is everyone is doing to bake their jigs after applying paint. I made a fixture as seen in the photo to prevent nipples on the head. What do you use?



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#7788509 - 07/21/12 10:07 AM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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I have posted my pics long ago of my setup. I use a little rack I built from coat hanger wire frame and smaller wire for the clothes line effect. It fits in the little tray that came with my little oven. I can hang lots of jigs at once. For sure, I always bake my jigs.

My favorite is to jig standing timber, sincce the lakes I fish most have little or none that is good for Crappie, so I like Bridge Columns and that rough concrete eats the paint off pretty quick. When they are cured the paint stays on.


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#7924353 - 08/26/12 04:30 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Them littl jig holder are nice, but costly and take a lot of room when I do a lot of heads.
So I don't care for them. I keep a little container of tooth picks already used for clearing eyes when I paint. I dip the head after heated and the stick a tooth pick in the eye. Some of them I have even whittled down to be sharper for small
Hooks. I usually wipe the side of the eye on the tooth pick after sticking it in the eye to get a little more off.
If by chance I still didn't get enough paint out and during the cure it fills again I keep a thin wire bodkin just for this handy as I tie. When I run into a eye that is too closed I heat my trusty bodkin with a bic lighter about 7 or 8 seconds and stick it in the eye from both sides and it will melt the paint out. Then I can clean it up with my thumb nail for a nice open eye!

Yes I take a little linger doing this, but I feel sure my customers appreciate it!

Forgot one little thing. If I have one that is being a pain cleaning after Ielt it mostly out I will use one of the little wire cleaners people use on a torch!

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Edited by Skip_48 (08/26/12 04:32 PM)
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#7924449 - 08/26/12 05:02 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: Skip_48]
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Yes I take a little linger doing this, but I feel sure my customers appreciate it!


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#7925539 - 08/26/12 09:06 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Here is the rack I built to hold jig heads in my oven, it is crude but it works and holds a lot of heads. I clean the eyes quickly with a wire before paint sets so I never have painted eyes. I have developed a temp schedule using Skip's information as a guideline. I like to jig around bridge columns which is hard on painted heads and have no trouble with my paint chipping. I must be doing it close enough to right that I am not changing. woot


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#7925570 - 08/26/12 09:10 PM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Here is a couple of racks I use to hold them while I am tying.




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#7926951 - 08/27/12 10:50 AM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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RTL, I used a roasting rack for a time, but at some point I went to Lowe's and found some wire gutter guards. I cut them to the length of a oven pan I use in the oven for painting. Then I just did a little re-shaping of the wire guard to it has somewhat a flat bottom and the sides that come up far enough so the heads don't touch the tray it's sitting on. I lean the side out just a little so the jig heads don't touch the wire. I also only use every other hole or space in the top of the wire sides to keep them from swinging into each other. I can put 3 of these racks on a metal cooking sheet I use that is covered with foil just incase. That means I can load both sides of the 3 and have something over 120 jigs in the oven at once. I have not counted lately so don't remember what a full load is.

Hope this helps and will try to get a pic today to post here.

Thanks Bobby!


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#7927021 - 08/27/12 11:06 AM Re: Powder painting crappie jig heads [Re: olefolks]
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Okay let me add a few things since I remembered when I looked at it again. I did bend the top of each side out so the jigs can hang right and I hang the hooks in the indent and not the outer hole. I also had some pieces of tile I kept from when I had some of replace carpet in my home. I just kept all the scraps as you never know when you have a use for something like this. I put the strips of tile in to add weight to keep each rack more stable.

To make it more clear looking at the side/top view I hang the hooks in the second row of holes from the outside. Hope that is clear.

Okay so here are the pics....

Side/top view


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