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#7275000 - 03/11/12 03:41 PM everything you want to know about batteries
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#7278489 - 03/12/12 01:31 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good site!


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#7278961 - 03/12/12 04:01 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good article. In the second paragraph from the top it states " a battery does not make electricity, it stores it". A battery is a manufacturing plant, the electricity is produced by chemical reaction inside the battery, when discharged, recharging regenerates the chemicals. If you don't believe this, next time you buy a lead acid battery that is dry (acid has not been added) put the required amount of acid in and check the battery for voltage. b

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#7280867 - 03/13/12 03:42 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#7311217 - 03/20/12 12:31 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#7393198 - 04/09/12 09:03 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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MAN... I thought I knew a lot about batteries, very nice post. Thanks.

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#7521172 - 05/12/12 11:42 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#7521699 - 05/12/12 04:03 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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thanks for the web site


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#7589273 - 05/30/12 03:35 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#7689095 - 06/25/12 02:18 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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i love this statement.



"maintenance free" (that means they are designed to die one week after the warranty runs out).

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#7885993 - 08/16/12 12:33 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Great read, thanks for sharing it.

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#7971449 - 09/08/12 06:47 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good read, learned a lot

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#8144764 - 10/23/12 01:29 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Great Sig hopalong love the Kenny Rodgers video and amen NoBama

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#8260217 - 11/23/12 10:24 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#8361872 - 12/20/12 10:01 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good info

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#8576545 - 02/11/13 05:02 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Very good information, but I still dont know what brand of deep cycle batteries I should buy for my bass boat. I know two guides who each swear by two different brands... I guess it just comes down to personal preference (or who your sponsor is). Anyone have any suggestions?

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#8638783 - 02/26/13 03:39 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#8740511 - 03/23/13 07:48 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Here's another link that may be useful: http://www.mmbalmainauto.com.au/PDF/State_of_charge_12_volt_batteries.pdf

Many questions and much erroneous information around about battery voltage versus state of charge. This table shows the real facts.

Note that when using voltage as an indicator of battery state of charge,there must be no load on the battery and it must be allowed to stabilize for a couple of hours after the charging voltage has been removed.

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#8940440 - 05/16/13 06:09 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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You really meant EVERYTHING, good read!
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#9070079 - 06/25/13 09:06 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good Reference...Thanks

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#9459193 - 11/05/13 08:14 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Ran across this after seeing these batteries at a trade show floating in an aquarium....Thought this was neat, even though they are still pretty expensive.
I went further into the website and looked @ their 12 volt line and from what I read if you had a 12 volt trolling motor set up you could cut back to one battery to operate the trolling motor, cranking of the big motor, and running electronics and still out perform 2 separate lead acid batteries by a huge margin. Weight savings would be big and would probably translate into a pretty descent fuel savings if you spend a lot of time on the water.......
http://lithiumpros.com/tag/trolling/


Edited by ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50) (11/05/13 08:18 PM)
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#9489474 - 11/17/13 10:11 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Some good reads guys. I have always been told to never charge a lead deep cycle battery because of memory issues. So I was told wrong and have been doing it wrong all this time. I have an on board charger and will be plugin it in after each outing. Maybe this will fix the short battery life.

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#9684120 - 01/28/14 06:01 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#9761021 - 02/21/14 10:13 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Thanks for posting.
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#9887370 - 04/06/14 08:10 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Anybody know if it is okay to jam the batteries right up against each other? I can just barely squeeze 3 size 27 batteries in the battery compartment. Also, it the plastic battery tray necessary? There is not even 1/16" extra room on thee sides. Plenty of height in the compartment.

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#9897179 - 04/10/14 10:58 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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The batteries should be fine jammed up next to each other. I believe the trays are for catching acid that might spill out.

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#9968789 - 05/08/14 12:13 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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Originally Posted By: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
Ran across this after seeing these batteries at a trade show floating in an aquarium....Thought this was neat, even though they are still pretty expensive.
I went further into the website and looked @ their 12 volt line and from what I read if you had a 12 volt trolling motor set up you could cut back to one battery to operate the trolling motor, cranking of the big motor, and running electronics and still out perform 2 separate lead acid batteries by a huge margin. Weight savings would be big and would probably translate into a pretty descent fuel savings if you spend a lot of time on the water.......
http://lithiumpros.com/tag/trolling/


they are a great battery with savings over the long run if you our out on the water ALOT

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#10294719 - 09/19/14 11:01 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Still can't figure out what's wrong with my trolling motor batteries. Boat and batteries about two years old. Batteries will not hold charge. Have on board Ranger charger. Batteries are charged immediately after coming off the water. Fish about once a week. Before I go fishing I have to recharge my batteries. Takes about 3 hours before batteries fully charged, 5 red lights on charger for almost 3 hours. Fish for about 1 1/2 hours and recharge batteries (usually about 1 1/2 hours before fully charged. I have had the batteries checked at three different locations, even the electrolyte checked and all say the batteries are OK. I even disconnected all wires from both batteries and they still discharge when not in use. Any recommendations?

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#10302714 - 09/23/14 01:05 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Yeah, Put them on the charger/maintainer and leave them plugged in.
Unless you're just using one of those car things.
If you can't afford a marine, in boat charger or one of those portable ones from minn-kota or others. Then at least spend $29.99 for a Battery Tender!!

Once the charger/maintainer charges it goes into a maintenance cycle, conditioning your batteries. Unplugging, then let sit, then putting back on the charger is not good.
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#10303999 - 09/23/14 04:14 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Great article and info really useful.

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#10579008 - 01/29/15 03:39 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Good post

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#11213215 - 11/08/15 05:42 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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this may seem strange but ,I need the lightest in weight I can find to run a troll motor, i am aware weight and battery hrs go together.
the reason is I have to carry the battery to the water and have health issues, so it needs to be as light as possible ,but still propel me around 3 or 4 hrs
thanks
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#11224930 - 11/15/15 11:04 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Hopalong, the lightest option is lithium. The weigh about 10 to 12 pounds. Pricy but worth it in your case.
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#11546300 - 04/16/16 10:44 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#11546311 - 04/16/16 10:52 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: chas1]
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Originally Posted By: chas1
this may seem strange but ,I need the lightest in weight I can find to run a troll motor, i am aware weight and battery hrs go together.
the reason is I have to carry the battery to the water and have health issues, so it needs to be as light as possible ,but still propel me around 3 or 4 hrs
thanks


The reasonable answer is called "hand truck" (~$30 + normal deep cycle battery). Or, you can pay $1000 for that Li-Ion battery. Those have particular charging requirements, so forget the $30 charger also, btw.

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#11546316 - 04/16/16 10:57 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: Stump Finder]
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Originally Posted By: Stump Finder
Some good reads guys. I have always been told to never charge a lead deep cycle battery because of memory issues. So I was told wrong and have been doing it wrong all this time. I have an on board charger and will be plugin it in after each outing. Maybe this will fix the short battery life.


Say WHAT????????? Do you buy them, use them until they are dead as a door nail (which won't be long), then buy new ones?


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#11546373 - 04/16/16 11:39 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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After reading this, I am going to start treating my batteries better and take better care of them.

I promise

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#11879390 - 10/13/16 05:06 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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#12406719 - 08/30/17 12:26 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Thanks for sharing.
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#12449545 - 10/01/17 11:30 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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I have a 12 Volt trolling motor, my trolling motor battery is only lasting about half the Time it did when New. So I need to replace it - but would I see any benefit in wiring the New battery in parallel with the older battery or should I just replace it and turn in the old battery.? hmmm

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#12449564 - 10/02/17 12:15 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: BigPoppa007]
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Originally Posted By: BigPoppa007
I have a 12 Volt trolling motor, my trolling motor battery is only lasting about half the Time it did when New. So I need to replace it - but would I see any benefit in wiring the New battery in parallel with the older battery or should I just replace it and turn in the old battery.? hmmm


Don't do it. The old battery will pull down your new one in short order and you'll be stuck with two bad batteries.

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#12449569 - 10/02/17 12:33 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Ok Thanks.

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#12550975 - 12/25/17 08:36 AM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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Yes, if you are going to rig 2 twelve volt batteries in parallel, they should be identical in age and capacity. If you are going to replace one, replace them both.

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#12723516 - 04/19/18 09:07 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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little help i have a 2005 yamaha 200 out board who much amp hr battery do i need for a starting battery
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#12723519 - 04/19/18 09:07 PM Re: everything you want to know about batteries [Re: hopalong]
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how not who
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