I love my toro winch.....I have tried every reel under the sun and NOTHING cranks in a deep diving crank like that revo toro winch.

That's what i'm wondering about PayneFish, what makes those larger framed reels better for throwing big baits, other than a larger capacity spool. That's why I thought the toro would be good, larger capacity spool, but a smaller framed reel.

I've only been in the swimbait game for a small amount of time. Let me be clear about that first but there are experts who have been doing this for years who I asked about equipment and what not. They said my winch would be fine for the smaller stuff but the gears will wear down a lot faster on the heavier baits. I heard from multiple guys about not being able to get six months out of a Winch for heavy baits. The winch I use is throwing baits under three oz mostly. I have a 400 sized Shimano which most of the experts swear by for my big pig sticker baits.

That's what i'm wondering about PayneFish, what makes those larger framed reels better for throwing big baits, other than a larger capacity spool. That's why I thought the toro would be good, larger capacity spool, but a smaller framed reel.

okay, i understand, i wasnt aware of the durablity (stronger gears, drag, etc.). I'm looking at a toro 50. I can get one at a reasonable price from a guy, and was just curious to hear about it. I assumed that it was smaller like a 200 sized, thanks for clarifying that its' comprable to a 300 shimano. I'm going to give it a try, thanks guys!