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#7145179 - 02/07/12 10:16 PM Americas Team
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Saw a spot on the news where one of the Giants owners had to take a shot at Dallas at their pep rally today... "Dallas calls themselves "Americas Team"... we are "Americas Dream". Fail. Number one... act like you have been there before.... Number two... I have never seen a Dallas owner/GM call out another team when celebrating one of five SB wins.... and Number three.... NFL Films tagged the 70's Cowboys with that title nearly 40 years ago. Cowboy envy is still alive.

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#7145366 - 02/07/12 11:09 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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#7145376 - 02/07/12 11:13 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I playoff win in 15 years is envy? Have at it
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#7145397 - 02/07/12 11:24 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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That is why we are America's Team. Because people are still envious of the title. Once the title has no envy, it ceases to exist.

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#7145406 - 02/07/12 11:28 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I wish he'd of said "Jerry's Dream"..

"Next Year's Champions" indeed..
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#7145418 - 02/07/12 11:35 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Ryan F.]
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Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
That is why we are America's Team. Because people are still envious of the title. Once the title has no envy, it ceases to exist.


There is no envy, Some of you are still living in the past. America has nothing to be proud or envious of with this team for the last 10 plus years.
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#7145426 - 02/07/12 11:43 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Martyman3]
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Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
That is why we are America's Team. Because people are still envious of the title. Once the title has no envy, it ceases to exist.


There is no envy, Some of you are still living in the past. America has nothing to be proud or envious of with this team for the last 10 plus years.
Then why do people still sit around saying, we are America's team not Dallas. If you didn't care you wouldn't say that. The fact that you want the title means you are envious of it.

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#7145431 - 02/07/12 11:46 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I disagree, This is press driven drivel. Being "America's Team" gets you nothing, No ring, belt, money etc. I could care less what a team wants to call itself other than World Champs.
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#7145435 - 02/07/12 11:48 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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It's press driven when someone says the Steelers, Giants, etc... are America's team? I'm talking about individuals and even players/owners who say these things.

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#7145440 - 02/07/12 11:55 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Being America's team gets you the sale of more team merchandise than all the others.
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#7145691 - 02/08/12 06:23 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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The Cowboys have good stats. That's why they are America's Team.

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#7145851 - 02/08/12 07:22 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: Alton K]
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Originally Posted By: Alton K
The Cowboys have good stats. That's why they are America's Team.

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#7146147 - 02/08/12 08:40 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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My point is this owner of the Giants obviously has Cowboy envy because he is bringing it up while speaking at the city parade. The aura and subsequent name placed on the team by NFL films was because a stretch of winning that will likely never be matched, road sellouts, merchandise sales. They are the most loved and hated team in the NFL.

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#7146227 - 02/08/12 08:59 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Just because the season is over.. What says that we can't still have a weekly "Romo sucks!" thread?
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#7146260 - 02/08/12 09:06 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Cowboy envy may alive but the Cowboys still suck and are an embarrassment to many.

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#7146287 - 02/08/12 09:10 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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how bout we just bring Peyton over next season. what will everyone say when he doesn't take them to the SB?
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#7146371 - 02/08/12 09:26 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Lots of bandwagon fans (SB or suck / embarrassed) are another trait of the organization.

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#7146453 - 02/08/12 09:46 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: OldFrog]
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Being America's team gets you the sale of more team merchandise than all the others.


Actually Green Bay passed the Cowboys in '09 for overall merchandise sales. Not sure if Dallas took the lead back last year though.
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#7146537 - 02/08/12 10:13 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: JDavis7873®]
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I thought these guys were America's Team...
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#7147004 - 02/08/12 11:49 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

We lost it when greed and lust of winning trumped morality and good sportsmanship. It comes with a high price tag.
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#7147069 - 02/08/12 12:03 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Ryan F.]
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Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
Originally Posted By: Martyman3
Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
That is why we are America's Team. Because people are still envious of the title. Once the title has no envy, it ceases to exist.


There is no envy, Some of you are still living in the past. America has nothing to be proud or envious of with this team for the last 10 plus years.
Then why do people still sit around saying, we are America's team not Dallas. If you didn't care you wouldn't say that. The fact that you want the title means you are envious of it.
+1 Ryan

That being said, I don't personally feel like there is an "America's team" anymore. The title seemed to have more meaning when it was a bunch of guys that real people could relate to. Now, the NFL is just a bunch of thugs who get paid 100 times the average person and while it's fun to watch, there's nobody in the NFL for the average Joe to relate to. There's no team that doesn't have problems with drugs, PEDs, or something else conduct-related.

Brady had the best shot at being someone relatable because he was drafted in the 6th round and not a household name, until he married a supermodel. I think that same fascination followed Romo for awhile, but he's lost that relat-ability for a number of reasons.
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#7147189 - 02/08/12 12:28 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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All he did was give the Cowboys some free pub. Jerry probably paid him to say it.
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#7147203 - 02/08/12 12:33 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Bob Davis]
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The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

I was only 7-10 years old when the Cowboys won their last rings...so I could he wrong... but you're saying there were no hoodlums on those teams? Was Irving and Newton not on those teams???
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#7147245 - 02/08/12 12:43 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Originally Posted By: fish4bass
My point is this owner of the Giants obviously has Cowboy envy because he is bringing it up while speaking at the city parade. The aura and subsequent name placed on the team by NFL films was because a stretch of winning that will likely never be matched, road sellouts, merchandise sales. They are the most loved and hated team in the NFL.

You can have all of that America's Team rubbish you want, but I'll take...

New York Giants Super Bowl Parade through the Canyon of Heroes!!
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#7147288 - 02/08/12 12:53 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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What sucks is that thanks to the Cowboys, the giants made the playoffs. bang
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#7147290 - 02/08/12 12:53 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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the giants won't even win their division next year due to the NY big head disease
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#7147309 - 02/08/12 12:57 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I believe that in recent polls, the Packers have become Americas team, no longer the Cowboys.

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#7147314 - 02/08/12 12:58 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I'm thinking the Bengals are next year's champs...
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#7147319 - 02/08/12 12:59 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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need o linemen, receivers and running backs
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#7147846 - 02/08/12 03:03 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: chaseUNT]
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The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

I was only 7-10 years old when the Cowboys won their last rings...so I could he wrong... but you're saying there were no hoodlums on those teams? Was Irving and Newton not on those teams???


Yes there were and that is my point. Michael Irvin tarnishes the football Hall of Fame today. The bar was lowered. Nate and his bales of wacky weed in his Mercedes, etc., all contributed to the demise of "Americas Team". Bye-bye. The only hope is that the pendulum will swing back and there will be a zero tolerance on off field antics. One strike, yer out. Tom Landry was the last of the great coaches for the boys. He wouldn't put up with the kind of carp today.
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#7148037 - 02/08/12 03:46 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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I like the way Bob thinks.
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#7148043 - 02/08/12 03:47 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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he put up with it in north dallas forty
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#7148054 - 02/08/12 03:50 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Hookem]
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What sucks is that thanks to the Cowboys, the giants made the playoffs. bang



No, what sucks is... the Cowboys.

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#7149266 - 02/08/12 08:33 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Bob Davis]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Originally Posted By: chaseUNT
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

I was only 7-10 years old when the Cowboys won their last rings...so I could he wrong... but you're saying there were no hoodlums on those teams? Was Irving and Newton not on those teams???


Yes there were and that is my point. Michael Irvin tarnishes the football Hall of Fame today. The bar was lowered. Nate and his bales of wacky weed in his Mercedes, etc., all contributed to the demise of "Americas Team". Bye-bye. The only hope is that the pendulum will swing back and there will be a zero tolerance on off field antics. One strike, yer out. Tom Landry was the last of the great coaches for the boys. He wouldn't put up with the kind of carp today.


Didn't Hollywood Henderson play in the 70's?
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#7149539 - 02/08/12 09:25 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Bob Davis]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Originally Posted By: chaseUNT
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

I was only 7-10 years old when the Cowboys won their last rings...so I could he wrong... but you're saying there were no hoodlums on those teams? Was Irving and Newton not on those teams???


Yes there were and that is my point. Michael Irvin tarnishes the football Hall of Fame today. The bar was lowered. Nate and his bales of wacky weed in his Mercedes, etc., all contributed to the demise of "Americas Team". Bye-bye. The only hope is that the pendulum will swing back and there will be a zero tolerance on off field antics. One strike, yer out. Tom Landry was the last of the great coaches for the boys. He wouldn't put up with the kind of carp today.


Isn't LT in the HOF and he just admitted to raping a minor ... or something like that? Wouldn't he had been the low point of the HOF?


Edited by fish4bass (02/08/12 09:51 PM)

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#7149561 - 02/08/12 09:32 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
Originally Posted By: chaseUNT
Originally Posted By: Bob Davis
The Cowboys lost the Americas Team title when they started hiring hoodlums and n'er do wells as players. America as a whole, doesn't want a team of convicts and drug addicts representing them on any playing field or off.

I was only 7-10 years old when the Cowboys won their last rings...so I could he wrong... but you're saying there were no hoodlums on those teams? Was Irving and Newton not on those teams???


Yes there were and that is my point. Michael Irvin tarnishes the football Hall of Fame today. The bar was lowered. Nate and his bales of wacky weed in his Mercedes, etc., all contributed to the demise of "Americas Team". Bye-bye. The only hope is that the pendulum will swing back and there will be a zero tolerance on off field antics. One strike, yer out. Tom Landry was the last of the great coaches for the boys. He wouldn't put up with the kind of carp today.


Didn't Hollywood Henderson play in the 70's?


Bob Hayes too. I think he did prison time for drugs. And is in the HOF.

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#7149981 - 02/09/12 12:15 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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Looks like a few of you are starting to get "it." The only difference between the NFL in the 70's vs today is media coverage. Well, I shouldn't say the only difference but there were plenty of bad apples back then too. Yet, people sit around and complain that the NFL is full of thugs. I bet, as a whole, the NFL is no more filled with thugs than the general population. All that talk is much ado about nothing IMO.

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#7150044 - 02/09/12 01:03 AM Re: Americas Team [Re: fish4bass]
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And the only difference between the Cowboys of the Landry / Schramm era, Jimmy Johnson era and today is.... Those coaches / GM's knew football. How to judge players and talent. Unlike this era overseen entirely by Mr. Jones, who values flash over draft picks, jersey sales over ability, and above all media exposure over winning.

I was born and raised a Dallas Cowboy fan but I have to say that I'm about sick of Jerry Jones and how he's ruined this team. I'll never leave them, never root for any other team... But he's making me... not care.. ya know?
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#7152951 - 02/09/12 05:28 PM Re: Americas Team [Re: Nothin but net]
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I was born and raised a Dallas Cowboy fan but I have to say that I'm about sick of Jerry Jones and how he's ruined this team. I'll never leave them, never root for any other team... But he's making me... not care.. ya know?


+1 bazillion
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