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#7141973 - 02/07/12 09:30 AM Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not?
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Is anyone fishing in there and is it safe?
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#7141989 - 02/07/12 09:32 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Tough question. Is it safe... well that all depends on your definition of safe. I have been as far back in the salinas as you can get. I have fished right next to multiple different mexican gill netters and never felt uncomfortable or unsafe. I have probably been all the way in the back of that creek 5 or 6 different trips.

But my defintiion of safe might not be your defintion of safe. Is it more dangerous then fishing the Valeeno, absolutely! Do I have any problem fishing in the salinas? Absolutely not. Fish where you feel comfortable. Falcon bass are all over the lake.
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#7141996 - 02/07/12 09:35 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Thanks for thr input Barrett. I have a pretty decsent hole a few miles back in the creek and wanna go try it but am a little cautious.I was just wondering how many of you guys are still going on the Mexican side.
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#7141998 - 02/07/12 09:35 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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The biggest issue I've heard of down there of late is crowds and discourteous fishermen. The Salanias is as safe as any other creek on the Mexican side.
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#7142000 - 02/07/12 09:36 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Originally Posted By: legendruns1
Thanks for thr input Barrett. I have a pretty decsent hole a few miles back in the creek and wanna go try it but am a little cautious.I was just wondering how many of you guys are still going on the Mexican side.


Might be dry
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#7142006 - 02/07/12 09:37 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Originally Posted By: legendruns1
Thanks for thr input Barrett. I have a pretty decsent hole a few miles back in the creek and wanna go try it but am a little cautious.I was just wondering how many of you guys are still going on the Mexican side.


depending on when you last went it might look a lot different! The Salinas looks like an entire different world then it did just only 5 or 6 months ago. FYI- your spot might be dry land now.
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#7142020 - 02/07/12 09:39 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: Barrett]
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We were there this past weekend and fished mainly Mexico for all 3 days. We fished Salanias, Salado, Coyotes and never felt unsafe - except that military helicopter that paralleled us at about 60 MPH... that was a bit creepy. I think I could have thrown a rock at it and hit it.

Lots of Mexican Fishing boats - just be aware and you'll be fine.

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#7142021 - 02/07/12 09:39 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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No it wont be dry.Its a ledge that drops off in the main creek.
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#7142030 - 02/07/12 09:41 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Originally Posted By: legendruns1
No it wont be dry.Its a ledge that drops off in the main creek.


Trust me that ledge might be out of water. When you get to the back of the salinas the creek channel is the only thing that has water on it. I cant even get to where I used to fish back there where the large field is on the right.
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#7142095 - 02/07/12 09:58 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: Barrett]
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We fished it on July 4th as far as you could get till it went down to a lane in the bushes just wide enough for a boat. The fishing with awesome back there, I never felt threatened until I spun my prop on the way back to Texas we hit a really bad wave about a mile from the border markers and lost almost all power I was able to idle out at about 2mph. That was a little uncomfortable but we made it and luckily Tony Gutierrez was able to come give us a tow!!! We saw the Military helicopter through out the day as well he just kept hovering then leaving and coming back like he was flying over the whole town. We only saw 2 other boats in the creek the day we were there. I would go back in a heart beat!!!
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#7142106 - 02/07/12 10:01 AM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Mexican Helicopters = a good thing!
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#7142640 - 02/07/12 12:14 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Was there on Saturday when the front hit big time. Right as the front hit we got a blame net caught in the big motor's prop. What a mess...could do nothing but cut it out with filet knife. As we were cutting it out a mexican netter came out of the cove about 200 yards away which made me uncomfortable. I was prepared to give them $20 if the came up and caused a stink as I am sure they knew what we were doing. These unmarked nets are a big problem. I was told in a previous form not to cut the main line, but I just don't see how that would be possible unless you were on dry land. I am sure that the loss of their nets pisses them off big time, but if it were me, I would have many markers attached to the nets so they could be seen.

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#7142651 - 02/07/12 12:17 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Originally Posted By: legendruns1
Thanks for thr input Barrett. I have a pretty decsent hole a few miles back in the creek and wanna go try it but am a little cautious.I was just wondering how many of you guys are still going on the Mexican side.


Salinias doesn't go back a few miles anymore.

We went all the way to the back last time we were there (a couple weeks ago). Saw the Mexican marines, tons of gillnetters, never felt unsafe.

You can see the mainlake from most of what is left of it right now.
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#7142659 - 02/07/12 12:19 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: Bill Waldschmidt]
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Originally Posted By: Bill Waldschmidt
Originally Posted By: legendruns1
Thanks for thr input Barrett. I have a pretty decsent hole a few miles back in the creek and wanna go try it but am a little cautious.I was just wondering how many of you guys are still going on the Mexican side.


Salinias doesn't go back a few miles anymore.

We went all the way to the back last time we were there (a couple weeks ago). Saw the Mexican marines, tons of gillnetters, never felt unsafe.

You can see the mainlake from most of what is left of it right now.



Thats basically what I was trying to say. It looks 100 times different then it did last year.
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#7142896 - 02/07/12 01:13 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: Bill Waldschmidt]
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You can see the mainlake from most of what is left of it right now.



+1


not a lot to it right now and as many have already said.....just as safe as any other mexico creek
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#7143874 - 02/07/12 05:30 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Registered: 05/12/04
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Loc: San Antonio
There are no fish in that creek go fish someplace else......teasing. We shoot two or three shows a year in that area and I feel safe there just pay atttention and you'll be fine

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#7143889 - 02/07/12 05:34 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
fouzman Offline
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Oh one more thing Legendruns, about that little ledge that dumps into the main creek a few miles back, buddy of mine saw a Marina helicopter parked on that ledge about three weeks ago. I'll guarantee you that spot is dry.
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#7147643 - 02/08/12 02:12 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: fouzman]
legendruns1 Offline
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Good deal, thanks for the info.
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#7147953 - 02/08/12 03:26 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Originally Posted By: legendruns1
Good deal, thanks for the info.


By the way please give us a report when you get back!!! thumb
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#7148977 - 02/08/12 07:28 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Registered: 01/20/07
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Loc: Liberty, TX
Was way in the back end two springs ago when we heard a pickup truck come down towards the lake and stop. Doors opened and shut and three young males began conversing in Spanish. We heard a female voice once or twice. Their voices began to raise and the conversation got heated. We could not actually see the people and luckily they could not see us. The brush was very thick. We got on the trolling motor and quietly eased out of there as the conversation continued to escalate with the hair on the back of our necks standing straight up.

The chances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time go up exponentially over there.

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#7149013 - 02/08/12 07:38 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: Monte Coon]
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Registered: 04/15/08
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Originally Posted By: Monte Coon
We fished it on July 4th as far as you could get till it went down to a lane in the bushes just wide enough for a boat. The fishing with awesome back there, I never felt threatened until I spun my prop on the way back to Texas we hit a really bad wave about a mile from the border markers and lost almost all power I was able to idle out at about 2mph. That was a little uncomfortable but we made it and luckily Tony Gutierrez was able to come give us a tow!!! We saw the Military helicopter through out the day as well he just kept hovering then leaving and coming back like he was flying over the whole town. We only saw 2 other boats in the creek the day we were there. I would go back in a heart beat!!!


Thing to do (and maybe you tried it) is to rotate the prop. I was able to get a hopelessly tangled net out like that without cutting the main line. I agree, they really should mark the nets especially when in obvious logical boat paths. When it happened to me I was in the middle of a creek in about 10 feet of water.
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#7149365 - 02/08/12 08:51 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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"feeling safe" does not equal "being safe." the odds are probably pretty miniscual that something happens, but the fact remains that the lake is used by armed drug cartels to ship narcotics into the US. So the answer is no, it is not safe.

Falcon is getting too crowded...y'all need to stay home.
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#7149440 - 02/08/12 09:07 PM Re: Salinas Creek on Falcon Safe or Not? [Re: legendruns1]
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Guys - I ran into a helicopter with 40 armed men on the bank in the Salinas a few weeks ago. If I did not play the situation extremely cool, it could of gotten REAL interesting.

Me personally I'm willing to die on this lake no questions asked. So count me in. SO here is the deal. There are 3 creeks on the Mexican side of this lake no bs which you can write your death sentence if you really tried. (2) start with an "S" and one has a nice concrete building on it and starts with a "C"

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