Hey, if it's what you like, then more power to ya. I don't get judgmental about cars unless it's an eco-piece with coexist stickers on it.

I replaced the transmission twice in my 99 goat. I'm done with goats.

If you were done with each brand each time something happened you will be walking before to long. We have Fords Dodges and Chevys in my family. If they all made junk they wouldn't still be in business. The [censored] about GM and Dodge taking bailout money has nothing to do with quality of their products. Look at warranties and things like that and see who has the best. Like boats their not a perfect one out there. These debates go on endlessly. Reason they make different brands is for choices, so you can go to the next one when your done. I've found being loyal to a brand has benifits on rebates and trade ins. That plays a big role. Bottom line is when I go shopping I want the most bang for my buck and best warranty out there. All the rest is just secondary. Does a truck really get purchased because it has heated steering wheels? I think not. If its made in America it's all good!

all i want is a drive train that'll last 200 thousand miles and a six cd player.

We're going too far here. I said Chevy started putting out some bad trucks. I never said they were worse than Ford.

they both sucketh da mostest

Well, and you like what you like. One thing though: The made in America argument doesn't particularly hold water anymore when discussing most vehicles. It is often a global enterprise, for vehicles which people believe were still made in the U.S. Plus, Chrysler is now owned by Italian automaker Fiat, when before they were owned by Cerberus Capital Management, a U.S. company (from '07 to '09) and prior to that, Daimler Benz.

Heard it plenty from my own mother when I bought my bimmer. "GERMAN?! Why not get something made in America?" She wasn't a fan when I mentioned that her Caddy may have been assembled in Hamtramck, but mostly contains parts made in Mexico and Canada.

I do get a kick out of these guys who say they won't buy one brand because they worked for that brand and saw how they did things.

I had a prof in college (thermodynamics I and II professor) who had previously worked for GM and Allison transmissions, and stated he would never own another Chevy. He was driving a Honda Accord at the time but needed to get a truck again and bought a brand new 2005 F-150. We showed up to class on a Monday a couple weeks later and he had a Fusion rental in the parking lot in place of his F-150, so we of course asked him about it. Apparently his truck with under 1000 miles had stranded him on I-20 and he had to have it towed in and the dealer was going to fix whatever catastrophic failure it was (I can't remember what it was now, but it wasn't something minor). All of the Chevy fans in the class gave him a hard time for years after that.

Anyway, they all put out good ones and bad ones. It does seem like Chevy is putting out a few more bad ones these days, but I'm sure that's cyclic with these companies. For my money, I still have heard too many Ford horror stories to spend my money on one. And I've owned too many Chevy's that haven't let me down.

Nissan Titan assembled in Canton Mississippi.
Toyota Tundra assmebled in San Antonio Texas.

Just sayin.....

You gots a little car problem and now you own junk!
Your problem is no big deal and will get fixed. Thats What warranties are for. You can thank the goverment for the need to improve fuel economy with AFM and yes all manufactures have a version of it. Not just GM.

It is.

Why?


They have a fix for the noise. Came out late 2011. Take it to the dealer and ask about bulletin #10-08-58-001.

Hey Jay whats up? I think I worked with you at one of those dealers.


Guys ALL cars can have there problems. I've worked on all manufactures and I'm glad they do. It pays the bills. I've seen a car have engine problem right of the transport truck from the manufacture and I've seen a Chevy truck with 879,000 miles on the original motor. Get one you like and try to get a warranty so when it does break, then its fixed and away you go.
If I had a dollar for every person who thought when there car had a problem that they owned a POS, I would be retired right now.

According to the service man at the dealership they have three more trucks other than mine with the same problem.

Well said

it doesnt matter what make, model, brand, or whatever, anything can happen.

I'm in the heavy truck industy. It dosen't matter if you own a Peterbilt, Freightliner, Volvo, with any engine or trans, schitt happens.

I've seen engines with less than 100 miles on them with a rod hanging out of the block, and I've seen trucks with 1.5 mil on them and all they've done to the truck is change the oil.

same goes for medium and light duty

10 years old and still runs like a sewing machine.

Wanna race. Bet my ecoboost will stomp your cojones to the wall Dodge hemi AND get better mileage doing it

No.

nuff said. i have an '06 and love it. it's starting to have small problems here and there, but im not trading my girl in for nuthin.

But where do the companies profits go? Back into the US economy?

Toyota spent $1.2 billion to build the plant in San Antonio and writes paychecks to over 2000 local San Antonio folks ever week. Not sure how much more they can do to support the local economy in San Antonio. A lot of the profits go right back into the local economy as salary and operating expense.

I care much less about where company profits go than I do about company paychecks.

The companies that outsource overseas, do you think those folks are complaining because the company profits come back over here?

I'll gladly switch vehicles with you; title for title!

- June I had to replace all 8 plugs, new wires, new COPs, new injectors

- July was 4 ball joints and a tie rod end

- August was a heater core

- October was a heater core (yes, another one). This time also came with a very thorough back flush

- December blew the heater core AGAIN. I have since just bypassed the darn thing

- Just last week I blew my steering gear and ended up replacing it and a new pitman arm

Still on my list of things that need to be fixed are:
- Phantom brake leak on the front right side
- Timing chain cover gasket is leaking (which will also come with a new water pump)
- Phantom vacuum leak
- A/C compressor is shot
- Heater core is obviously still dead and I need to figure out why it keeps blowing new ones
- Need a new belt tensioner


Granted, my truck is a 2001 with 150,000 miles and it is lifted and 4x4 so it gets a bit more part stress than most, but still, I'm tired of playing backyard mechanic! Luckily, I am mechanically inclined and have been able to do everything myself and save a good hunk of labor fees.

Dang what truck is that? Sounds like my old dodge minus two transmissions and the rod that eventually went through the block.

It is, in fact, a Dodge, Chris. 1500 4x4 with the 5.9L. It had a new transmission put in it before I bought it. Compression is great and it doesn't eat oil, so I'm hoping I won't get a rod thrown anytime soon. I picked it up for dirt cheap with some of these issues known and I figured I could slowly build it all back. I can't be too upset with it because I knew what I was getting. In addition to all the mechanical [censored], there's also some body work needed (pretty much the entire front end is held on by zip ties because the clips broke). The interior needs some work as well. But yeah, it was dirt cheap and I needed a vehicle after my Ford seized a ring.

I had an 01 Silverado I drove for 11 years with no mechanical problems. Most every electrical switch in the interrior went out at some point. That was annoying at times but always a cheap fix. Several people told me that GM will outsource parts to the lowest bidder and put junk alectrical parts in. I figure that is what my problem was. That truck never needed a wrench turned under the hood or used a drop of oil.

My FIL had a 00 F-150. He has a battle almost every year getting it running well enough to pass inspection. It seems like he is installing a new O2 sensor every few months.

I think all brands have their own issues. I have and plan to continue to be a Chevy person.