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#7135390 - 02/05/12 04:18 PM Nueces River ???
Chief Mike Offline
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Registered: 06/28/06
Posts: 157
Loc: China Grove TX
Anybody heading to the Nueces River this week? Either at hwy 59 or the airport launch? Maybe with all the rain they got the last couple of days maybe there will be enough water to launch a boat from hwy 59 or airport & be able travel up & down the river without having to drag it across any shallow spots. Hopefully there will be enough water so that I can get my 18 ft bay boat in there if not I will get myself a 12 to 14 foot jon boat. I just want to go fishing. If anybody goes please keep us posted.
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#7135874 - 02/05/12 06:54 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
wrknonit Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 154
Loc: Ingram, Texas
Going on tuesday morning. Forecast calls for rain monday. Gonna take my jon boat to the airport banking on a small rise in river level. If not, 59 will do.

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#7136584 - 02/05/12 09:41 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
SAWYER Offline
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Registered: 01/23/10
Posts: 21
From Hwy 59 to Mathis Lake got several inches of rain. 59 North not so much. Will be some flow increase but not much and I imagine it's going to be a chocolate mess as well. Rains in the forecast for that area later this week. We need a turd floater to turn this thing on!

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#7136927 - 02/05/12 10:52 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: SAWYER]
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 10268
Loc: South Texas
Originally Posted By: SAWYER
From Hwy 59 to Mathis Lake got several inches of rain. 59 North not so much. Will be some flow increase but not much and I imagine it's going to be a chocolate mess as well. Rains in the forecast for that area later this week. We need a turd floater to turn this thing on!


The Nueces has a very long watershed, and if it rains up around Frio, and Uvalde counties it can take several days to reach the river down around George West, and remember the Atascosa, the Frio (Choke) and the Nueces all feed into the river so any rains above and the feeder creeks can put a pretty good but muddy flow into that river even several days after a good rain.

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#7137313 - 02/06/12 06:56 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Jimbo]
wrknonit Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 154
Loc: Ingram, Texas
We'll see tomorrow. I'll let yall know.

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#7137709 - 02/06/12 09:12 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
mbsfish Offline
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Registered: 11/28/06
Posts: 193
Loc: Marble Falls
Guys please stop wishcasting and just look it up!

USGS River Gauges

Nueces at Three Rivers still at 30 cfs which all 90% of that flow is coming from Choke Canyon.

Considering this is one of the worst droughts we have ever been in, it's going to take a lot more than one rain event to get the river flowing again. The ground was NOT saturated before this event, so it just soaked it up with no run off.

The water will probably be off color from local runoff, but no real rise.

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#7137802 - 02/06/12 09:36 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: mbsfish]
jagg Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 2052
Loc: South Texas
Originally Posted By: mbsfish
Guys please stop wishcasting and just look it up!

USGS River Gauges

Nueces at Three Rivers still at 30 cfs which all 90% of that flow is coming from Choke Canyon.

Considering this is one of the worst droughts we have ever been in, it's going to take a lot more than one rain event to get the river flowing again. The ground was NOT saturated before this event, so it just soaked it up with no run off.

The water will probably be off color from local runoff, but no real rise.

unfortunately this ^^ The ground is gonna soak up these hit and miss storms like a sponge. Gonna take a train of storms to roll in to get a perceivable rise. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think the Nueces is gonna be right for years to come.
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#7137813 - 02/06/12 09:40 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
rodeo lineman Offline
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Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 331
Loc: Spring Branch, TX
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#7138017 - 02/06/12 10:34 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: rodeo lineman]
wrknonit Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 154
Loc: Ingram, Texas
angel2 Way to be RL

I believe, I believe, I believe. see it, believe it, and enjoy it. Let yall know soon, going tomorrow. bannana2

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#7138361 - 02/06/12 12:02 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
SAWYER Offline
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Registered: 01/23/10
Posts: 21
"The Nueces has a very long watershed, and if it rains up around Frio, and Uvalde counties it can take several days to reach the river down around George West, and remember the Atascosa, the Frio (Choke) and the Nueces all feed into the river so any rains above and the feeder creeks can put a pretty good but muddy flow into that river even"

Well aware of that. Thanks.


Edited by SAWYER (02/06/12 12:03 PM)

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#7138476 - 02/06/12 12:27 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: SAWYER]
wrknonit Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 154
Loc: Ingram, Texas
...and if that river has come up even a little, those fish that were piling up further downstream will move up, and if the water is somewhat muddy, they will gather in the deeper spots and await clearer water. Its been MY experience that they will move within 48 hours of a good rain. I like to think I know what I am saying since I've been fishing there since the mid to late eighties, and have seen the river in just about every condition.

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#7138549 - 02/06/12 12:40 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: SAWYER]
Bernard Offline
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Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 305
Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
My son and I took a drive down to the 59 and airport ramps yesterday (Sunday) just to check and see what the water situation was. Ours was the only vehicle at either boat ramp. This was our first time going there this year, so I don't know what it was like a week or two ago, but there is water at both areas. It appears to be a few feet deep around both ramps. It was really muddy yesterday. We have a 14 ft. Lone Star aluminum boat with a 15 hp motor, and when we go (if the water doesn't come up any further) we plan to back our trailer down to the water's edge and lift the boat off and on the trailer. I'd be hesitant to try to back a trailer down into the water. Looks like there may be dropoffs at both airport and 59.

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#7138611 - 02/06/12 12:55 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: jagg]
Jimbo Online   content
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 10268
Loc: South Texas
Originally Posted By: jagg
Originally Posted By: mbsfish
Guys please stop wishcasting and just look it up!

USGS River Gauges

Nueces at Three Rivers still at 30 cfs which all 90% of that flow is coming from Choke Canyon.

Considering this is one of the worst droughts we have ever been in, it's going to take a lot more than one rain event to get the river flowing again. The ground was NOT saturated before this event, so it just soaked it up with no run off.

The water will probably be off color from local runoff, but no real rise.

unfortunately this ^^ The ground is gonna soak up these hit and miss storms like a sponge. Gonna take a train of storms to roll in to get a perceivable rise. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think the Nueces is gonna be right for years to come.


Years to come?

Having fished that river for over 35 years, it's had it's ups and downs and I've seen a lot of them, but she always bounces back pretty quick.

Here is a recent example....In the spring of 2010 the river was down pretty close to what it is now and you couldn't go upstream of the Airport launch in anything but a small jon boat, and then only but a few hundred yards without having to portage your boat across the shallow riffles, and it pretty much was limited to kayaks and canoes if you wanted to venture further up river.

Last spring one year later in 2011 the river was at it's highest level and I went by boat all the way up several miles to my old regular honey holes, and the fishing was fantastic.

This year it's down as we all know.

I've fished that river for over 35 years and it's had it's ups and downs, so it all depends on how long this drought will last, but the recent rains are hopefully a sign that the old river will bounce back sooner rather than later.

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#7138736 - 02/06/12 01:27 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Bernard]
Jimbo Online   content
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 10268
Loc: South Texas
Originally Posted By: Bernard
My son and I took a drive down to the 59 and airport ramps yesterday (Sunday) just to check and see what the water situation was. Ours was the only vehicle at either boat ramp. This was our first time going there this year, so I don't know what it was like a week or two ago, but there is water at both areas. It appears to be a few feet deep around both ramps. It was really muddy yesterday. We have a 14 ft. Lone Star aluminum boat with a 15 hp motor, and when we go (if the water doesn't come up any further) we plan to back our trailer down to the water's edge and lift the boat off and on the trailer. I'd be hesitant to try to back a trailer down into the water. Looks like there may be dropoffs at both airport and 59.


If it's as low as it was year before last, and it sounds like it is, then you have to be very careful launching a boat off the ramp at the airport launch.

The launch has a very nasty dropoff on the downriver side or if you are facing the ramp, it would be on your right side.

Your wheel and axle will fall off the ramp, and the only way to get out is to get into the water and lift the trailer while your partner drives the trailer forward.

Don't ask how I know this!

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#7138996 - 02/06/12 02:48 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
jagg Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 2052
Loc: South Texas
I hope you're right Jimbo. The problem is the "experts" (folks in the Meteorology & Climatology fields) say that the drought is gonna go on until at least this winter. I don't hardly believe the weather man, but a lot of folks I do respect are saying the same thing. Problem is we haven't had a drought like this in 30 years and an event like this tends to have long term effects on all of our waters and their ecosystems. I'm not just talking about water level, I'm talking about everything from fish and prey population to ph balance. Like I said, I WANT to be wrong. I hope I put a jinx on this drought and it's the best spring/summer ever. Just a few observations is all.
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#7139130 - 02/06/12 03:25 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
sportsman3535 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/02
Posts: 1214
Loc: Corpus Christi, TX
There will still be fish in that part of the river. Maybe not as many, but if there is water, they will make it that far.

Been a while since anyone actually reported catching whites at the airport or 59.

Might have to check it out soon...
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#7139906 - 02/06/12 07:00 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: sportsman3535]
Jimbo Online   content
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 10268
Loc: South Texas
Originally Posted By: sportsman3535
There will still be fish in that part of the river. Maybe not as many, but if there is water, they will make it that far.

Been a while since anyone actually reported catching whites at the airport or 59.

Might have to check it out soon...


They'll make it up that far, but the one's that do are going to have their backs sunburned!

Seriously though, I've seen whites swim upstream lying on their sides in order to make it up to the next pool, and they were splashing and fighting to move forward all the way.

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#7141042 - 02/06/12 10:41 PM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
jvela Offline
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Registered: 01/31/11
Posts: 34
Hey guys, any info on San Miguel Creek? Can't say I understand that river-flow chart that was mentioned earlier. Went to the creek the first week of Jan and it was very low! Off of the Daughtry bridge, there was about 60 yds to water on the right and about 80 yds of water to the left. In other words there was a stretch of about 140 yds of dry creek in between. I'm hoping these past rains have helped to connect the missing link! Last year we killed the sandies and crappie on that creek... It sure was fun! Any info on this creek would be greatly appreciated smile

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#7141592 - 02/07/12 07:46 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: jvela]
Jimbo Online   content
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 10268
Loc: South Texas
That San Miguel doesn't have much of a natural flow except during wet years, and a while back I looked on Google earth and it showed that there are some pretty large green fields several miles upstream of the bridge, and from that I take that there is some irrigation that possibly empties into the San Miguel creek from that source, which could give the creek some limited flow, but with that said the San Miguel goes the way the lake goes.

If the lake is up, the creek will be up, so it's not so much what flows into the creek, it's what flows into the lake from the main river which is the Frio, with a little help from the San Miguel that is going to make the difference and back up the water into the upper reaches of the creek.

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#7141904 - 02/07/12 09:11 AM Re: Nueces River ??? [Re: Chief Mike]
limp line Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 02/17/11
Posts: 107
I wouldn't take your aluminum boat with a motor. We took ours a week or so back with just a trolling motor. I bet we weren't in the boat for a total of 10 min the entire trip. You WILL BE DRAGGING. You are better off with a pair of waders and a backpack. I wouldn't even take a kayak. I never went over my waist and most the time is was more like ankle to calf deep.

The water level at the airport when I went was just to the bottom of the concrete.

Same at 59 bridge. You hit a gravel bar within 50 yards either direction.

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