I was thinking about thisdriving down the road yesterday.

Both dominated when they were younger.
Both were champions at an early age.
Both then lost the stabilizing force in their life.
Both then let the girls' fun parts dominate their lives.
Both had SEVERE scene control problems.
Both were out of their prospective sport for a while.
The "Field" caught up with both of them.
Tyson never quite ragained his form, while Tiger is trying to make it back.
Tyson never did win at the Championship level again and there's no guarantee that Tiger will either (other than the one that MM is gonna give).

What say you?

-Alton

Tyson was a one trick pony...hell of trick though.

Tiger is the probably the best the game has ever seen.

When Tyson was coming up, and even as a Champion, he was getting to that level, too!

-alton

But he couldnt box, all he could do was knock you the freak out.

The great difference is that Tyson was or is an animal the raped a girl and went to prison.
Tiger paid for prostitutes. That is one heck of a difference.

Very rare thread....so far every post has been true!

I'm just saying that both of 'em let the poon get into their heads and it messed things up for both of 'em.

-alton

Tiger is 34 and golfs. Has about 15 years left to play and after four tournaments is back to the top 20 in the world. The book I's half written. No comparison


Try Dirk and Larry Bird

Do you think Tiger will ever win another major?

Tyson's book was half written too and look what happened to that fool!

Being in the top 20 in the world was where both of 'em are when they came off of their hiatuses.

-Alton

Tiger had to be the hardest working athlete of a time. Dude changed his swing, fired his swing coach to be better for longer. Mine Tyson just talked smack.

IMO Tiger is the best athlete of all time in all of sports. Not only do I think he will win a major but he will break Jacks record

I think golf has caught up to him and it's gonna be too tuff! When Tiger was doing what he did, he was much younger. Now, he's playing against guys that are younger, stronger, as, if not more skilled, and HUNGRIER than he is.

If he doesn't ever get back on top, the very top, his story will be just like Mike Tyson's, but with alot more money.

-Alton

Tiger is not, nor will he ever be, the greatest golfer of all time.

He has skillz for sure but he has wasted his chance.

He is still a POS and will always be in my mind.

You are what you do, in all facets of life.

I think that when you look at Tyson's and Tiger's stories objectively, there are some real similarities in their carrer paths, and poosibly their career endings.

-Alton

Tiger needs a tattoo on his face,a big A like the scarlet letter.

Tiger was brought up with privilege and played in high class arenas throughout his career. His dad was his great mentor and Tiger was in the limelight and the people he met all through his life were high class people. He was a child prodigy which kept him in the best circles in Golf.

He blew it not because he does not play the game as good. He blew it when he took his upbringing and family and put them second to his sex life.



Mike Tyson was just the opposite. His dad left when he was very young and his mom struggled to support and maintain the family. They lived in the opposite end of the social class from Tiger Woods.
Tyson lost his mom at 16 and his trainer became his mentor.


Comparing a boxers upbringing to a golfers is kind of odd too. Not many think a boxer and golfer have the same standards. The boxer is a game of violence when golfing is more finesse and high class.



I think Tyson's upbringing weighed heavily on his later life. I think in the brain department Tiger was light years ahead also.
Nothing excuses either of their choices. Tiger was the one who should have known better though if a comparison is made.

Tyson was a brawler not a boxer, a brawler with his attitude will beat a boxer. Tyson fought some really big strong guys with good boxing skills and made it look easy, his attitude and style allowed that to happen. His personal life got in the way too early, but his time was coming soon anyway. It was just a matter of time before someone who could fight a brawler would come along and age would factor in.

Tiger in my opinion is one of the best golfers in the world, based on what he has already done..and i see more wins coming from him. what I cant see is Tiger ever dominating again, but its not because his head isnt right or a coach. Golf isnt a sport where its against the other golfer, its a battle against yourself and making few mistakes, These younger guys who are playing so well would be playing this well no matter If tiger took time off or how much his personal life got in his head. I agree they have caught up with him. They are shooting low scores that tiger had when he was dominating. Tiger used to have that extra something he could pull out for a win, now that others have gotten better he has to go all out all the time now and it causes more mistakes than normal. Tiger is going to win more, I think he will break the majors record, but his wins will be farther apart than they once were and he will never again be dominant not because of a mental thing, just because his competition is a lot better than they used to be.

i still want to party with el tigre.
tysons problems arose when cus damato died

robin givens is a malicious woman

damato was such a father figure to tyson that ole mikey went wild without his authority

What MM said both times

but beyonce had the biggest sellin video of all times

Wrong. For one the hardest working athlete in history is probably someone we will never know as such. He had a lesser talent but worked harder than anyone in history.
How could you possibly say this about Tiger. He was a prodigy at 3. Gifted and excelled throughout his childhood. How you do in your sport has nothing to do with how hard you worked to get there.
Also golf is NOT the sport at which I would guess the hardest working athlete in history would come from. Thats funny.

mma

MM, for someone so in love with TW, I can't believe you don't know how old he is. Tiger is 36 and will be 37 on December 30th of this year.

Listen to the haters. Once again the OT knows nothing! This will be one of the greatest two years of golf....because of Tiger.....again.

How do you poeple continue to underestimate Tiger?

Hes a black golfer that shot even par at 8. Hes done at 36? lol DID YOU FREAKING WATCH THE LAST TWO TOURNEYS HE HAS PLAYED IN? HE TIED FOR FOURTH AT THE MASTERS IN 2011 while battling injuries. 5 years from now nobody will remember the whores, He will go down as the greatest athlete of all time and possibly the greatest closer in all of sports. Tiger lives on another level than every golfer to ever play, mentally and physically. He is also the most valuable athlete in the world when it comes to money to this day. Enjoy


As for Mike Tyson, do I really need to talk about him? He bit a dudes ear off when he was losing and raped a woman. He went to prison for crying out loud

this man crush is rather concerning

fixed it for you. he isnt on another level anymore, not because he got worse, but because some others got better.

You sir are beyond clueless. I have played every sport you can think of growing up.

NO sport is as hard as golf. Having conversation with someone who says golf is not a sport....well I wont say. Its one of the oldest sports in the World that is still played

He got better. Do you not know what hes been working on? It doesnt just happen overnight. He completely changed his game after two knee surgerys. lol You will see, lets get to summer

Compare Woods and Tyson? Not much comparison except they have made mistakes outside of their sports. Tyson also is a coward when losing he decided he wanted to see what Holifields(sp?) ear tasted like. After Tyson was done and even on the way down his sport was crashing you never even hear about boxing anymore.

Woods- You can ask every golfer that has played on tour for the last 15yrs what Tiger has ment to the game. More money, bigger sponsors the tour for the last 15yrs has been at it's most profitable and noticable in it's history. Tiger is on swing coach #3 and has one majors with the other 2 with different swings, he will do the same with Sean Foley(If anyone think's he won't win another major I'm your Huckleberry and will galdly take your $, just let me know when your ready). Tiger has taken a shoe company and helped turn it into one of the biggest golf companies.

Not much comperison in the careers of Woods and Tyson. Woods is far more superior, than Tyson ever thought about being.

i think what we're saying is that he won't ever get to the same level he was. he is a handsome brute though.

Haven't we all!

Your not understanding. I Think tiger is one of the best Golfers...But his getting better isnt better than he was, its only getting as good as those guys around him. say when he was golfing good he would shoot 15 Under, that was the dominant tiger, now the other guys are shooting 15 Under, Tiger isnt going to imporve so much he will start shooting 22 under...Some of the other guys are just as good as tiger and Even if he gets his game back, hes barely better than them.

btw, your wrong, A Golfer is no where near the Athlete a motocrosser is, If i remember correct Motocross is the 3rd most physical demanding sport in the world. I mean really, john daily is a Golfer...Hes no athlete.

Tyson threw more elbows ( and got away with it) than anyone I had ever seen, He wasnt a true boxer. Tiger, on the other hand played his sport properly. Tyson wouldnt have lasted 3 rounds with Ali in his prime, playing by the rules. Sure, he could get KOs ...but using what method?

tiger needs multiple poonies to get his mojo back

According to Golf Digest, Woods made $769,440,709 from 1996 to 2007,[97] and the magazine predicted that by 2010, Woods would pass one billion dollars in earnings.[98] In 2009, Forbes confirmed that Woods was indeed the world's first athlete to earn over a billion dollars in his career (before taxes), after accounting for the $10 million bonus Woods received for the FedEx Cup title.[99][100] The same year, Forbes estimated his net worth to be $600 million, making him the second richest "African American" behind only Oprah Winfrey.[101]

he thai

Not human

Woods underwent laser eye surgery in 1999. Before this surgery, Woods eyesight was minus 11, meaning he was almost legally blind. He considered the surgery a big help in his career and a good alternative to the glasses and contact lenses.[183] He immediately started winning tour events after the surgery. He received money from TLC Laser Eye Centers to endorse them.[184] In 2007, he had a second laser eye surgery when his vision began to deteriorate again.[185

At age three, he shot a 48 over nine holes over the Cypress Navy course, and at age five, he appeared in Golf Digest and on ABC's That's Incredible.[19] Before turning seven, Tiger won the Under Age 10 section of the Drive, Pitch, and Putt competition, held at the Navy Golf Course in Cypress, California.[20] In 1984 at the age of eight, he won the 9–10 boys' event, the youngest age group available, at the Junior World Golf Championships.[21] He first broke 80 at age eight.[22] He went on to win the Junior World Championships six times, including four consecutive wins from 1988 to 1991.[23][24][25][26][27]

Woods' father Earl wrote that Tiger first beat him when he was 11 years old, with Earl trying his best. Earl lost to Tiger every time from then on.[28][29] Woods first broke 70 on a regulation golf course at age 12.[30]

+1

he also duped the whole golf world by coming across as a fine upstanding family man while, at the same time, was pimp daddyin all over the country. was he really too stupid to realize that it would eventually get out?

Tiger and Tyson both start with the letter "T".

[quote=OldFrog]Tyson threw more elbows ( and got away with it) than anyone I had ever seen, He wasnt a true boxer. Tiger, on the other hand played his sport properly. Tyson wouldnt have lasted 3 rounds with Ali in his prime, playing by the rules. Sure, he could get KOs ...but using what method? [/quote

I don't totally disagree with these statements but I'm not sure I would say Tiger played his sport properly at all times. He obviously didn't elbow or bite the ear off any opponents that I'm aware of but he did have a bad temper on the course and let it show (on National tv) on many occasions. Golf is "suppose" to be the gentlemans sport, or so the purest claim. We can say that Tiger was very aggressive and very competitive which is why he would fly off the handle at times but I'm not sure it's what gold purest respect. I'm not an avid follower of golf but does anyone else remember Nicklaus, Palmer, Hogan, etc throwing tantrums on the golf course?

Tiger wins 3 times this year. The Boogieman has spoken.

tiger? is that you?

Quickly Huge

Hey what do you guys think....should Pete Rose be in the hall of fame?

Who is better? What is there record? Did they make more money than Tiger on winning tourneys? The only record he needs is Jacks majors and he will get it before he is done. So who is the best golfer now that that washed up has been Tiger can't beat? I know a lot of you can tee it up and beat him now right b/c he sucks. The guy made a mistake and is trying to put it behind him I'm sure no one on here would have messed with any of those ugly women but it's over let it go. The man is no comparison to Tyson period.

Dollars won dont make you the best, not does it say your an Superior athlete, it says you won some and your marketable. Forbes is ONLY money based, they saying someone is a great Athlete dont mean squat to anyone. If ESPN says it, it would mean a bit more.

made "a" mistake? if only i could be so lucky. you girls need to get off the man crush and address your gay tendencies

there are some similarities, but one thing I do know


Tiger will never be broke or a sniveling idiot and my friends thats all that matters

The only "mistake" he made was getting caught

So if you are the leading money winner your not the best WTF are you talking about his record speaks for itself. So KVD is not the best Bass Fisherman in his sport? These are guys that have to earn there money not sign million dollar contracts like football,baseball ext... Yes they have sponsor money but if they don't make the cut no check.

btw, tiger has made more off sponsor money than he ever did at golf, just as KVD has.

If he doesnt make a cut, he does still have a check, just not for winning or placing. KVD is the Best at bass fishing, be he still wins on a more than regular basis and the others he fishes against havent caught up to him yet, where there are a # of golfers that has caught up and play just as well as Tiger. There is a differene in " was" the greatest player and "Is" the greatest. He is the all time money winner, and was the greatest, but no matter how much he HAS won, he isnt the greatest right now...And i think he will still get better again, but no matter how well he plays, the others are playing just as good. He will win, but his days of domination are over.

LOL, Tiger signs a measley little $70MM-$100MM deals with Nike, does tv commercials, sponsoring vehicles (Buick I believe), his own sports drink (which was ultimately pulled), and countless other smaller sponsorships yet you believe he makes his living from placing or winning a golf tourney? That's just pocket change, or maybe waitress fees, lol.

Tiger 95 million
ViJay 65 million
Phil 63 million

I think he is the best of all time at golf no one is even close. Just like any sport you will go away after years but who on tour has dominated as long as Tiger? Who is better right now name the mystery man? Who is dominating on tour right now more?

Scott01 I guess 95 million is pocket change to you. Guys take the sponsor money out of it who has won more $$$$$ name the guy please tell me. Yes he can make a fine living with 95 million but I guess a waitress makes more. There will always be Was the best you can't stay on top forever.

umm, who has won more money this year? Who won more than Tiger last year? who is #1 in the world? it isnt tiger. I agree so far overall in his career he has been the greatest to date, but 95 million then dont mean hes the greatest now or will be in the future.

There are guys who havent even played a baseball game in the major leagues now who have made more money than babe ruth did in his career, does the $ amount make them better? no..it sure dont, it just means we live in a time when more money is paid.. 15 years from now, Tigers $ will look like Chump Change, will that make that golfer better than tiger, nope, all it will mean is all time money winner.

Tiger has to beat Jacks Major win record to be considered the best of all time.

Greatest athlete of all time? That's a huge stretch. Even a few fat guys can do well in golf. Not the most athletic of sports.

Ok you take Luke Donald and I will take Tiger..lol. Surely your kidding me right?

They both "choke" from vivid memories:

Tyson...Bloody ears, cauliflower ears, thick ears, thin ears, juicy ears....

Tiger...Golf clubs smashing car windows, golf club smashing Blonds, golf clubs raining hammer blows, golf club swinging Swedish women, ..........

Im sorry that groupies can fall in love so easy, i didnt say i would take luke over tiger, but Tiger isnt #1, can you get that at all? Who did he lose to last week? No matter what name someone throws out there, Because your in love he has to be the best. I would put my money on tiger to win any tournament, But Im not going to win big like I could have before, Because other players have caught up. Even if he regains #1, he will never dominate again.

Tiger farted on some people TWICE! What a loser!

-alton

Tiger is #1 if he is on the course...period. THATS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER GET

Guess I still have no takers?

Tiger and Romo. Neither are at the top of their games and not the best in the business to most. We have to excuse the lovers.

Pee Wee Herman is no.1 to some.

Great Point Allison!

Tiger is the best and Romo is one of the best in the league.

I think I smell Pee Wee Herman

And by the way...Romo is at the top of his game

Allison1- who is the best on the PGA Tour? In you opinion?

Facts please...did he win? is he #1 in the world? is he the Money leader this year? No, facts are he isnt #1 on the course, if he was he would have won, and that was a watered down field since they have a tournament in the US as well. If he wins with the same frequency as he did years ago, then I will say hes back......Aint gonna happen.

Yes he is #1 in the world

I don't know. I don't play or follow the sport.

So you post about chit you know nothing about. Welcome to the OT

mod alert

this thread has gotten so far away from the OP, it makes me wanna put on my Tiger Pajamas and cry into my woolbie!

-alton

i think it has been a great educational dicussion. I have really learned alot.

Who said I know nothing about Tiger? You?

With the web most of the best information can be had by anyone whether they ever see the light of day. With the point of views you have about Tiger anyone who sees the news or reads it knows your opinion is not widespread.


Alton. This is the Off Topic section.

Huh? That is one of the dumbest points I have ever heard. Go watch some you tube videos dude

WaterLogged one post you will bet on him every time the next someone else is better. Why would you bet on some one when there is better? Or you are talking out both ends.

I love the OT! Hijacking threads is my 2nd favorite thing to do in this world!

I was making light that this was one of the weakest, 4 page, hijacked threads of all time!

-Alton

Hes talking out both ends. He says he will never be like he was and i guess if he isnt that and still #1 he isnt good.

Thats what I got out of all the mumbo

Not so. I've seen a thread about food become a Romo lovefest. At least we're still mostly talking sports.

Tiger will win 3 times this year.............. His head is getting right, golf is the easy part for him.

Yeah but has Tyson ever had a beatdown with a golf club???

Tiger did get fined for spitting.

Tiger is the man. He will win a major this year.

One of the few that get it

Nobody has argued that he was not the best in golf when he won the Masters(when this pic was taken).

After when he has not been parading around with a fist in the air and we have the argument.

I'm not arguing that he is the best in golf. He still has majors, and yes I said majors left in him.

Tyson and Tiger are both washed up - I guarantee it!!!

-Alton

I can't say or speculate. If Tiger died tomorrow or had his arm cut off he would still go down as one of the best in history.
He would also probably go down as the most dominant in history too.



To MM. I got that out of what I've read . I also watched Nicklaus, Trevino, Palmer and some of the other earlier greats when they were great. I doubt you are old enough to compare some of those guys since you are not old enough to have seen them in their prime.

Allison, how fast does that 150 push that Allison in yer sig?

-alton

Its speed sensitive like all boats but its lighter so weight and temps affect it more than most boats. Right now with a full load (400 pounds of people) it runs around 68 with 4 batteries and all my stuff.
With myself it runs in the low 70's.

With the 150HP? Those Allisons will flyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

You fish JP much?

-alton

I'm out.

Tiger is on my wife's pass list. She doesn't know it. But he's on it.

No, where some groupies cant face reality, I can be a Fan of tiger woods, and also say that he isnt the best there is Right now. I unlike You can be a Fan without being a Follower. It used to be that You almost knew who was going to win, that was when Tiger was the greatest, Now you can predict all you want that tiger will win, but most of the time you will be wrong. You two are really too Ignorant to get what I was saying...Tiger is still good, but others have caught him, he isnt head and shoulders above them anymore. even if he gets his game back the only way he is going to be dominant is If he can make the others play poor...really, in an indivuals game you can cause another golfer to play poorly? My posts have never been about Tiger not still being good or having a potential to Win, its about the others guys have stepped up and will always compete with him now.

MM, its 9:09 pm and its dark outside....are you going to argue that its light out and your correct just because you posted it? Is tiger #1 in Rankings right now? Did tiger win The watered down Tournament he just played in? Is he the Top money winner this year? If all 3 answers are a Yes, He is in fact the best right now. btw, Be careful when you set down, grant is back there hanging on your coattails.

Will Tyson ever get another chance at the Hvy/wt Belt?

-Alton

Your right I havent but Tiger changed golf. Now there are tons of incredible young golfers I get to watch. One things for sure, I would rather have grown up watching Tiger than the guys you listed

Depends if he can beat Kobiashi or that country boy can't remember his name in a hot dog eating contest?

My favorite of all time is Guppy Troup! I loved those pants he used to wear!

-alton

Hey Waterlogged

Tiger is the best Golfer in the world right now. I will let you pick any 5 golfers in the world rankings right now and will bet you $500 Tiger will be ahead of them all by year end.


Do you get my point? Just because someone is #1 right doesnt mean chit to me. Tiger pissed on Luke McDonald you know that #1 golfer that played Tiger a couple of weeks ago in that "washed up field" in Dubai

He almost has his swing change down perfect. He CHANGED how swing and had knee surgeries

I bet you $500 I could throw a football over them there mountains!

-Alton

My first big fight that I remember was when he was still called Cassius Clay. He fought that guy from England and was an underdog.
Ali was a very good fighter but his ability to highlight boxing in general was just as great. He made boxing great.
In basketball it was Jordan. In golf its Tiger. In swimming it was me Phelps or Spitz.

Happy Gilmore

I've got a question for you MM. Conversely if what you say happens you proved you're a good prognosticator.
Now back when Woods was still ranked no1 but was not very competitive would you have agreed that he was not the best or would you have then toted out that ranking to support him?

Make up your Mind, it does make a difference...You just said He is best player right now, then you say He will be best by the end of the year.You say #1 right now dont mean anything to you. Do you think Rankings are just made up Numbers? Just some guy who sits around and says hes gonna rank someone above Tiger just to see If he can Pizz someone off? If someone is ranked #1, and he isnt #1 in your made up rankings, then how can you justify being #1 when the rankings show that...You cant have it both ways, the rankings are Legit or they are not. Im not saying tiger wont be #1 again, i hope he is...But He isnt NOW.

Im saying he made changes and went through things that took him out of #1 in the little ranking. He took time off and had another knee surgery and changed his swing. To you he should have stayed #1 through all that? When Tiger plays Vegas has him as the favorite in almost every tourney he enters. Why do you think that is? He is the favorite because is the most likely to win...when he plays. Now hes healthy and figured out his swing. IF you look at his fifth place last year in the Masters he wasnt playing nearly as good as he has the last couple of months. Maybe if you watch golf and quit staring at the world rankings you would see something. He has it figured out and its gonna be a show I tell ya

True MM I think the world ranking are a sham right now.

WaterLogged you still can't come up with one guy with a better record or more money wins can you. Here we go again your not saying he won't be #1 but right now he is not. Please get rid of sports in your house please. I never said he was number one right now I said he was the best to play the game. And also said you can't stay on to forever.

what happened to him last tourney??

He tied for third at -11 and that makes a win and two top three finishes in his last three tournaments

That win was a weak field and you know it

that's what you throw out? Why don't you roll your sleeves up and give an opinion instead of jabbing meanless post

sleeves up. im not giving an opinion just giving a fact.

Cheveron Field Tiger's last win, PLEASE SHOW ME A CHOP IN THIS FIELD?
Tiger
Zach Johnson
Paul Casey
Hunter Mahan
Matt Kuchar
Rickie Fowler
Bubba Watson
Maritn Laird
Bo Van Pelt
Gary Woodland
K.J. Choi
Bill Hass
Webb Simpson
Jason Day
Steve Stricker
Keegan Bradley
Nick Watney

Answer very carefully before you type. And maybe look up the person's record before you say they are not worthy. This field has no chops, but I'll be interested in the reply's

wake me up when he wins another major

He wont reply he just posted to troll

See. Has no points

hey pot meet kettle

LOL, in 15 years we may be asking what was this thing called dollars.

The boys are totally screwed then. LOL

Once again a stolen post. Bring something to the table man. I'm not trying to be arse and know you watch sports and have HSO's but you never have any of your own thoughts or opinions. Cmon Jakey what's do you think is in store for Tiger in 2012?

im not sure I only watch the majors really when time allows. I think he will have a better year than the past two. will he win a major? im thinking he will win another this year.

Agree

I will say this I still think his head is screwed up though what he went thru and the check he had to cut his wife you dont get over that very quick I dont care how much money he has he skipped Torrey Pines because he got 2 million just for showing up last week overseas and playing. I think cutting that check to her hurt his wallet a bit.

Just click on these stats. Don't forget about the true greats if y'all want to talk about ALLTIME. http://golf.about.com/od/historyofgolf/a/pgatour_records.htm

I agree JDB- when your whole life got turned upside down and not knowing when your gonna see your kids, and just having everybody dog ya(which he brought on himself), having to give her a ton of money and not really being healthy for 2 or 3 yrs. But I think now his personal life is kinda settling down a lil now he knows what going on. He had to find a swing that was not gonna tear his knee up as much. He didn't just forget how to win when you've won as much as he has. He just had to have some life issues settle a little and find his swing.

Tiger is a great golfer but will never dominate again. Just the way it goes. Too many out there now that are younger, stronger, longer. Look at the pool he started against in the beginning. Were they conditioned the way he was? No. What about the young guys coming up? Yes, they are. They need to at least start leaving the microphones off when near him on the course. Dang pottymouth! LOL

You sir are a Moron. You come in part of the way into a thread and having not read it all. I never once said someone had a better record, and i never, ever said he wouldnt be a #1 again,I never once said he wasnt all time money winner and this conversation never was about his legacy, its all about NOW. You did say he was the best to play the game, too bad that was never questioned or part of the conversation. What i DID say is that he was the greatest, and he may be again, and in a whole career he may go down as the greatest ever..I also said, that for now he isnt the greatest in the game, he has been surpassed. Only time will tell If he is #1 again, i believe he can be, But I also DID say, he may be #1 again, but Everyone has gotten closer to his level of play and he will never Dominate again like he once did. I cant pick another Golfer who was better than Tiger at one time, but at one time is not now, If he was the best now, he would be #1 in the World, He would be #1 on money List for This year.

If you put Richard petty on a nascar track, He is a legend in racing, but not even close to the Best on the track, you dont get bonus credits for what you did in the past, Who is the BEST now is all that matters.

So who's is the best now? Like right now...today. tiger hasn't even played in a pga event yet. I woukd argue that he is the number #1 golfer in the world right now. He finihsed third or better in his last three with a win. Hello Masters

did c-man hack your account?

3rd isnt 1st, as I said, he isnt dominating like he once was. What was his ranking last year, He played in PGA Events then. You can argue it all you want, Player Rankings says he isnt. Your giving an opinion, Player rankings are facts.

im the best

The field has gotten better no doubt. Tiger isn't having to beat Tom Lehman, Freddy, Davis Love..... He is playing against some pretty good young guns. He may not dominate but he is still going to get some wins.

Even then, it could be questioned. Tiger is a good golfer, and physically more of an athelete than Jack, but give Tiger the equipment that jack played with and Tiger would be no where close to The Man. Tiger plays with superior advanced equipment designed just for him, while Jack's was more off-the-shelf type clubs and balls.

But to the op, Woods/Tyson comparison. Both developed muscle mass designed to make them better at their particular sport. Both had egos that took them to places that got them in trouble. Both are considered the best of their time. Both had that killer instinct that allowed them to intimidate and close out an opponent.

So If Romo has the best QB rating in the league he is the best?

This point is so freaking dumb. Tiger has been playing since 1978. He shot even p
ar in 1983. Hes played with all types of equipment. You could give him a stick and he would be the best. He is a golfer made into an athlete....not the other way around. Tiger breaths golf

Is Tiger number 1 now: NO

Is Tiger best ever: NO

Those are the facts

I say yes to both. That's a fact

So after reading this thread, the question we are debating is:

Who is currently the top ranked golfer ever to play the game in the world right now by the end of this year?

Good luck with that....