20 seconds....dammit. I'll delete mine

It is not uncommon for an alcoholic to relapse. I will add him in my prayers tonight. He can start over on his quest for sobriety.

I just hope the accident at The Ballpark last summer isn't haunting him.

If this was a black athlete he would be ripped beyond belief

why?

If I had to choose I'd rather him relapse with alcohol, and not crack. Alcohol addiction is not funny, but it was nothing compared to his drug addiction.

It does suck that he did that, but he is a strong man and will be fine.

But on a positive note....think he just got cheaper to resign!

didnt work. call romo

He has larger areiola's(sp) than I thought he would.

It's sad that a guy with that much talent has to have a babysitter at all times and is not allowed to carry cash or cards.

He has larger areiola's(sp) than I thought he would.

I watched Hamilton speak at our church last summer. Yes hes human but If you want to go around and talk the talk you better back it up. I dont see Dez speaking at my church

MM im glad your perfect

me too. I will send you a free book I wrote called

"How to be perfect"
By Mckinney Machine

OMG he had a few drinks.

Do y'all really not have anything more important in your lives to worry about?

Josh is a good guy he made a mistake he will acknowledge that and move on. That's all he can do. If he was black I would say the same thing so the race thing doesn't fly its Bc of his faith the sad thing is a lot of people have been waiting for him to fail so they can kick him when hes down. The same will be the case if tebow ever fails. I don't look at this way I look at like hes human and he has a problem which he has admired now he can start over.

We're all human, and all make poor decisions on a regular basis.

He's a thug and will always be a thug

this is not a Mike Vick thread

I would hate to be in the limelight if I had past problems such as Josh, Dez or anyone, there is always some dirtbag that is trying to get dirt or stir some chit up.

yeah, i guess it's a small price to pay when you consider that they have the ability to secure their family financially for their entire lives. definitely a double edged blade though for sure though.

Kinda like TO did!!

one has an addiction, the other is just a worthless sack of____

one has an addiction, the other is just a worthless sack of____

I don't believe addiction is a real thing.

At least Josh wants to change, and does what he can to help others from taking the same path he has taken. I just wish there was a drug to give him that would shut down his need for drugs and alcohol. If there was a way to shut down the brains addictive area.

You don't think Quincy Carter wanted to change?

There is. It causes them to throw up when they drink creating a conditioning affect. The name is Antabuse.

Has to be, way too many people sleeping in boxes outside in the middle of winter just because drugs are more important.

If I was his family, I would be worried about what happens AFTER baseball when the public spotlight is off (or at least dimmed). That's when the real trouble will start.

It could be the exact opposite. When he's not big shot baseball player, and he's living on a fixed income, maybe the temptation won't be there anymore

MM is playing devil's advocate. don't be drawn offsides by his hard count.

Poverty does not seem to slow down most addicts.

didn't baseball players used to be tougher? Didn't Mickey Mantle get chitfaced every single day and still set records and win championships. Didn't Darryl Strawberry have 335 HR and 1k RBIs while snorting the ya-yo for ten years? And how many players in the 70s played daily on a combo of speed and 'ludes? A-yeah... pretty much all of them.
but josh hamilton has a beer in a bar during the offseason and we are all disin' him or praying for him...

In my opinion, If he wants a drink and doesn't go off the deep end, let him be. If he misses practice and it effect his job, family, etc. then get involved.

I don't believe addiction is a real thing.

I just hope the accident at The Ballpark last summer isn't haunting him.

That's cause you're an ignorant buffoon.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.024359129817f80d27d8ccd84469c668.361&show_article=1

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Believing there's no such thing as mental/physical addiction is like refusing to believe the sky is blue lol.

Its not just a beer, 1 beer for an Addict is like 100..1 is a major setback. The Difference in those guys from yesteryear is they played the game, Josh already lost millions and millions of dollars and half the career he would have already played because of his addiction. He was drafted in 1999, look at the # he could have had If he played all those seasons. If everyone would just let 1 slide, he would have 2, then 3, then be right back into the hard stuff. An Addict is an Addict for Life regardless If they stop or not. All the scrutiny from people and press will most likely save a career and Money, but also be what saves a mans life. Thats not even taking into consideration what effcts addiction has on the family.

I could care less what the man does off the field, I just want him to be healthy for an entire season and keep knocking the shiz out of the baseball. Mabey his relapse will allow us to get him to sign for less money.

I could care less what the man does off the field, I just want him to be healthy for an entire season and keep knocking the shiz out of the baseball. Mabey his relapse will allow us to get him to sign for less money.

You dont have to go crazy, Alcohol is a drug, Addicts cant have any.

Says who?

Maybe the Rangers shouldn't have held back from Prince Fielder for fear of not being able to afford Josh. With his frequent injuries and addictions, I'm not sure that Josh is a safe bet.

JR

Every Addict that has ever seeked help and wanted to quit, thats ho says. Im not judging josh, Im stating facts on addiction, You cant have any, 0, none. Unless you have had an addiction you wouldnt understand, its not like you just go have 1 and shut it off just because you can...You cant, thats the problem, 1 is the start, then 2 then its full blown again. Josh Judged himself and said it was wrong, why are you saying its not wrong when the man who is involved says it is? You heard him say it could be 1 drink, 4 drinks or 15 drinks that puts him right back to where he was. Him saying it was wrong and it was a poor choice is confirming that you dont know anything whatsoever about addiction and your arguement stating that 1 is not hurting anything is very flawed. I dont judge addicts, i pray for them and those around them. If someone wants to lose thier family, Job, all thier money and eventually die, its no concern of mine as long as they dont physically hurt anyone or affect me, then I will judge.

Every Addict that has ever seeked help and wanted to quit, thats who says. Im not judging josh, Im stating facts on addiction, You cant have any, 0, none. Unless you have had an addiction you wouldnt understand, its not like you just go have 1 and shut it off just because you can...You cant, thats the problem, 1 is the start, then 2 then its full blown again. Josh Judged himself and said it was wrong, why are you saying its not wrong when the man who is involved says it is? You heard him say it could be 1 drink, 4 drinks or 15 drinks that puts him right back to where he was. Him saying it was wrong and it was a poor choice is confirming that you dont know anything whatsoever about addiction and your arguement stating that 1 is not hurting anything is very flawed. I dont judge addicts, i pray for them and those around them. If someone wants to lose thier family, Job, all thier money and eventually die, its no concern of mine as long as they dont physically hurt anyone or affect me, then I will judge.

But, at some point many alcholoics and drug addicts have made the conscious decision to stop. I don't buy that the same brain cannot make the same decision to stop at one or two beers. I just don't buy it and never will.

Quiting smoking SUKED!!! Best thing I ever did, but not easy and was way more than just brain power. I failed a few times cause the urge was just too much. I too was addicted to weed. Yes, I said addicted. I did a lot of things I am not proud of just to get high. Things you would never associate with a weed smoker. Never did anything else. I have not gotten high in over 2 years now, and I do not even get the urge to anymore, thanks to my Saviour and His grace and mercy. I tried numerous times to quit, and even now I only get through at times by His strength. ONLY THING I can contribute it to...

But, at some point many alcholoics and drug addicts have made the conscious decision to stop. I don't buy that the same brain cannot make the same decision to stop at one or two beers. I just don't buy it and never will.

Ever know a kid who broke out in hives because they're allergic to chocolate? I think it's totally bogus. I can eat chocolate and it doesn't affect me.

Alcoholics are PHYSICALLY allergic to alcohol. It affects them differently than it does other people.

if someone never had an addiction they couldnt understand. its like telling someone with depression to just snap out of it and forget it, it just dont happen as easy as it sounds.

Who in thier right mind would even serve him?

Man, go root for the cardinals already

Says who?

While that may in fact be his opinion on the matter, who are you to judge him and make statements like that about and for him?

He's a big boy, he can have a few drinks if he wants. Only he knows whether he can handle that or not.

Bill you are a good guy but quit showing your utter ignorance of this disease.

There are a lot of people like me who cannot stand the taste of cilantro. It tastes like nasty soap water. People who are alcoholics and/or have an addictive personality cannot touch one drink of alcohol. An alcoholic who has been clean and sober for ten years goes right back to where he was when he quit ten years ago.

Bill is right.

Josh is an adult and is fully aware of the consequences of his drinking and drugging. If he wants flush his life down the toilet, nobody has the right to stop him.

As far as his addiction, he knows what he did was wrong. I hope this allows him to refocus on his error.

That's cause you're an ignorant buffoon.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.024359129817f80d27d8ccd84469c668.361&show_article=1

According the local 8 news, he drank 3 or 4 drinks and was with teammate Ian Kinsler. They also said this was not a violation of the MLB drug rules.

As far as his addiction, he knows what he did was wrong. I hope this allows him to refocus on his error.

He's human, and he's an addict. Im sorry for his road bump but I thought he did a great job explaining what happened.