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#7122006 - 02/02/12 09:58 AM
Flourocarbon?
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Registered: 03/13/07
Posts: 382
Loc: Salado, TX
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I use Baitcaster first of all. I have used the Seaguar Red Label and I'm satisfied with its performance, but it wasnt what i thought it should be. It seems to backlash very easy in the spool. It is a strong line though, and I caught fish on it. I was using 10# on Wright and McGill Jerkbait rod with Ardent C-400 Reel. Is there a better line in the same Price range that is more castable? I bought some Vicious and will never purchase that again. I used some Vanish transition and had about the same results as the Seaguar red label. Been told that the Seaguar InvizX is the line to buy...Opinions please.  Thanks
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#7122016 - 02/02/12 09:59 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
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InvisX for moving baits
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#7122018 - 02/02/12 09:59 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/18/08
Posts: 34806
Loc: TEJAS
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i use gamma edge. kinda pricey but lasts forever
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#7122057 - 02/02/12 10:06 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 45740
Loc: The Cloud
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InvisX 15 and 20b but prefer a softer line like P-Line CX premium in cold weather and water.
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#7122116 - 02/02/12 10:17 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Manchu]
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Angler
Registered: 03/13/07
Posts: 382
Loc: Salado, TX
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i use gamma edge. kinda pricey but lasts forever Yea $20+ for one rod is too much for this guy! 
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#7122123 - 02/02/12 10:19 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 11/01/09
Posts: 506
Loc: Killeen/ Ft. Hood, TX
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Only flourocarbon ill ever use is Inviz-X. Always treat it with KVD line conditioner when spooling up and also about every third trip.
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#7122124 - 02/02/12 10:19 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 06/21/07
Posts: 13695
Loc: Dallas
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I've only noticed minor performance differences between Invisx and Red Label. I've not noticed a difference in castability.
I use Invisx, 12-20# on almost all of my rods.
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#7122252 - 02/02/12 10:47 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Registered: 12/19/10
Posts: 228
Loc: killeen, Texas
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I use Baitcaster first of all. I have used the Seaguar Red Label and I'm satisfied with its performance, but it wasnt what i thought it should be. It seems to backlash very easy in the spool. It is a strong line though, and I caught fish on it. I was using 10# on Wright and McGill Jerkbait rod with Ardent C-400 Reel. Is there a better line in the same Price range that is more castable? I bought some Vicious and will never purchase that again. I used some Vanish transition and had about the same results as the Seaguar red label. Been told that the Seaguar InvizX is the line to buy...Opinions please.  Thanks The Invis X is the way to go but it sounds like it may be your settings on the real causing you to backlash. You may not also be thumbing it correctly. Not saying these are the problems but very likely to be. The red label is very good line and shouldn't be doing that at all. Just my opinion though.
Edited by Peter L. (02/02/12 10:48 AM)
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#7122280 - 02/02/12 10:56 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/26/10
Posts: 1510
Loc: Lubbock, TX
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I almost exlusively use red label and have never had issues. I have noticed, like Bill said, casting distance is a little better with invis-x. Being a broke college kid the red label is the perfect medium.
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#7122305 - 02/02/12 11:05 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/10/08
Posts: 2506
Loc: TX
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I guess im the minority. I will only use 100% Trilene for fluro now. but JMO
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#7122319 - 02/02/12 11:07 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/18/08
Posts: 1147
Loc: Texas
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Invisx on all my rods except the topwaters and frog rods
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#7122366 - 02/02/12 11:19 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Midland, Tx
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i also use berkly 100%. you problem maybe how your feeding it on your reels. you have to have it spool off the the line spool how it was spooled on or else major problems. this use to happen to me all the time. I put a pen through the hole the put it on the floor and hold it with my feet while i reel it on so i am holding tension and keeping the spool straight. i know this is dumb common sense but it works for me and it stopped the problem that i was having which sounds very simular to yours!
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#7123784 - 02/02/12 04:54 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 634
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
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I'm also a fan of P-line CX Premium. Outer coating of floro on copolymer core. Casts good on baitcasting and spinning reels year-round. I always spray it with KVD line conditioner.
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#7123809 - 02/02/12 05:01 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Peter L.]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 1288
Loc: Humble, Texas
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Im with Peter ............Play arround with your reel settings. You should be able to cast that "Red" with the Ardent you use. And use line conditioner frequently, once you get used to the quirks of flouo youll be glad you did. I use Baitcaster first of all. I have used the Seaguar Red Label and I'm satisfied with its performance, but it wasnt what i thought it should be. It seems to backlash very easy in the spool. It is a strong line though, and I caught fish on it. I was using 10# on Wright and McGill Jerkbait rod with Ardent C-400 Reel. Is there a better line in the same Price range that is more castable? I bought some Vicious and will never purchase that again. I used some Vanish transition and had about the same results as the Seaguar red label. Been told that the Seaguar InvizX is the line to buy...Opinions please.  Thanks The Invis X is the way to go but it sounds like it may be your settings on the real causing you to backlash. You may not also be thumbing it correctly. Not saying these are the problems but very likely to be. The red label is very good line and shouldn't be doing that at all. Just my opinion though.
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#7123908 - 02/02/12 05:24 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3815
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Go to a co poly,like P line Fluoroclear. Easier to handle.
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#7123915 - 02/02/12 05:26 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/18/08
Posts: 34806
Loc: TEJAS
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i use gamma edge. kinda pricey but lasts forever Yea $20+ for one rod is too much for this guy! order the big spool on line. it comes out to about $14 per reel
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#7123938 - 02/02/12 05:30 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Gone Shank'n]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 1577
Loc: crowley
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I guess im the minority. I will only use 100% Trilene for fluro now. but JMO me too
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#7124076 - 02/02/12 06:04 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 8600
Loc: Mansfield, Tx.
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I like P-line 100% fluoro. better than the Trilene 100% fluoro and the P-line comes in a 250 yard spool so it is one of the lower priced fluoro's per yard. I do use Invizx and P-line Halo. Halo has the most memory of the three lines I mentioned but it is very strong and I use it for jigs.
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#7124199 - 02/02/12 06:29 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Marooned]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 08/07/10
Posts: 3572
Loc: ..around the way, near Lk Waco
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I always spray it with KVD line conditioner. Stupid question, but how do you apply this stuff? After you spool your line on/as you're spooling it?...sorry, but a little late to the party with line conditioner..
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#7124290 - 02/02/12 06:52 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Angler
Registered: 04/24/10
Posts: 422
Loc: Sugar land, Tx
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I use the 25 # Seagar invis x and BPS fluor, but sometimes wonder if Im just waisting my money when I could be using 25 pound big game. I have some 25 pound big game on a couple of rods and fish just fine, Im not flippin with those rods but back in the day before braid and fluor there sure were a hell of alot of fish caught on mono. Do you really think fluor is that much better than mono especially for flippin. And I only fish Falcon.
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#7124319 - 02/02/12 06:58 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: scm]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 06/21/07
Posts: 13695
Loc: Dallas
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I use the 25 # Seagar invis x and BPS fluor, but sometimes wonder if Im just waisting my money when I could be using 25 pound big game. I have some 25 pound big game on a couple of rods and fish just fine, Im not flippin with those rods but back in the day before braid and fluor there sure were a hell of alot of fish caught on mono. Do you really think fluor is that much better than mono especially for flippin. And I only fish Falcon. Yes. Less stretch, less memory, less visible in the water. And more sensitive. Can you catch fish with mono? Sure. But flouro gives you an advantage.
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#7124337 - 02/02/12 07:02 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: YellowMagic]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 1288
Loc: Humble, Texas
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Just spray it directly on the spool, Ill usually put it on the night before to give it a chance to marinate.  I always spray it with KVD line conditioner. Stupid question, but how do you apply this stuff? After you spool your line on/as you're spooling it?...sorry, but a little late to the party with line conditioner..
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#7124447 - 02/02/12 07:30 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 05/05/10
Posts: 1877
Loc: Livingston Tx
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All I use is Vicous Pro Elite and its great and alot cheaper been useing it for over a year now and no problems with it at all. The stuff is tuff as nails period the best I have used. Spray a little KVD line conditioner on the night before and a few times throughout the day and you cant beat it may not have to through the day but I do on all my line.
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#7124470 - 02/02/12 07:35 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 01/09/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Mesquite,Tx
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Invisx for me...No problems with backlash.
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#7124519 - 02/02/12 07:43 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Angler
Registered: 04/24/10
Posts: 422
Loc: Sugar land, Tx
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I dont know about the memory part,, 25 Seagar Invis x seams to have a hell of a lot of memory to me. Matter of fact all that 25# fluor seems to have a hell of a lot of memory!!!
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#7124749 - 02/02/12 08:31 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1076
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I would adjust your reel settings a bit and spray on some KVD conditioner. I haven't had any issues with red label castability, especially 10lb. Some of the best flouro you can buy for the price. I've never used an Ardent reel though, all my stuff is Shimano.
What jerkbait are you throwing, some of them can be hard to cast with any line, especially throwing them into the wind if they don't have an internal weight.
Trilene 100% is good stuff too, but a little pricier.
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#7124765 - 02/02/12 08:35 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Bullet20XrD]
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Angler
Registered: 04/07/09
Posts: 477
Loc: Colleyville, Tx
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Trilene 100% is good stuff
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#7124854 - 02/02/12 08:52 PM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Bill Waldschmidt]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
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I use the 25 # Seagar invis x and BPS fluor, but sometimes wonder if Im just waisting my money when I could be using 25 pound big game. I have some 25 pound big game on a couple of rods and fish just fine, Im not flippin with those rods but back in the day before braid and fluor there sure were a hell of alot of fish caught on mono. Do you really think fluor is that much better than mono especially for flippin. And I only fish Falcon. Yes. Less stretch, less memory, less visible in the water. And more sensitive. Can you catch fish with mono? Sure. But flouro gives you an advantage. That's obvious, it says that right on the box.
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#7127062 - 02/03/12 11:34 AM
Re: Flourocarbon?
[Re: Bullet20XrD]
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Angler
Registered: 03/13/07
Posts: 382
Loc: Salado, TX
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I was throwing a small jerkbait with no rattles. It was a very light bait, but I have thrown it before with regular 12lb mono and no problems. I think It could have been the combo of the ardent reel and a new feel of the red label 10# that just presented a challenge to me. I usually have full control, just because of experience and my methods, but I did switch to the Ardents this year and they definately cast different than any other I have used. I'm just trying not to make the mistakes from last year with missed fish that could have been contributed from using a mono line instead of a less stretching line as flouro. When it comes down to it I just couldnt find my rythm(Zone) with the line and lure combo, although it did produce keepers.(29Jan-BLT)
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