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#7115335 - 01/31/12 05:06 PM Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative
Hoosier Daddy Offline
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Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 283
Loc: San Antonio TX
I am looking for a good alternative to the over priced Yamaha Yamalube 2-M that I have run out of. I have a 2005 Yamaha
175 HPDI. Anyone have any good ideas?
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#7115415 - 01/31/12 05:28 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Grant2 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 4125
Loc: Humble,Tx US
Quick Silver Premium Plus some say there HPDI runs better. I run it in my Yammy.

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#7115699 - 01/31/12 06:36 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Grant2]
Skeeter TZX 200 Offline
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Registered: 04/18/05
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Loc: Waco
premium plus runs good in my hpdi.$19.99 at academy

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#7115718 - 01/31/12 06:39 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
wormman Offline
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Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 808
Loc: Royse City, Texas
For $20 you can buy yamalube.

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#7115756 - 01/31/12 06:47 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: wormman]
Skeeter TZX 200 Offline
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Loc: Waco
Originally Posted By: wormman
For $20 you can buy yamalube.


where? cheapest ive seen it is $23 i think

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#7115761 - 01/31/12 06:48 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Cub Offline
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Loc: San Antonio
Lots of guys running the Pennzoil XLF with good results,they claim the HPDI is the application its best suited for. Its quite a bit less expensive compared to Yamalube.

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#7115778 - 01/31/12 06:52 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
bassackwards dav Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
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Loc: Azle, TX EML
Ive owned three yamahas and never run yamalube. Knock on wood but my 250 runs fine on penns.

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#7115833 - 01/31/12 07:04 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Texguy02 Offline
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Registered: 04/16/09
Posts: 886
Loc: TX
SuperTech from Walmart or Pennzoil.
I knows guys that run both of these with no problems. One has over 800hrs with the SuperTech

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#7115978 - 01/31/12 07:33 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
cborden Offline
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Loc: Granbury
I just spent 39.52 for one gallon of yamalube.. If this other stuff is just as good I have wasted a fortune already.

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#7115984 - 01/31/12 07:35 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Grant2]
Barrett Offline
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Originally Posted By: Grant2
Quick Silver Premium Plus some say there HPDI runs better. I run it in my Yammy.
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#7116015 - 01/31/12 07:41 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Grant2 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/04
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Loc: Humble,Tx US
This same question came up on the BBC and a lot of guys said the HPDI ran better on Quick Silver but there where some that said oil is oil don't make one better than the other. But 80% run Quick Silver Plus.

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#7116058 - 01/31/12 07:48 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
wormman Offline
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Registered: 12/23/08
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Loc: Royse City, Texas
If the quicksilver works it is significantly cheaper I believe. But if your already paying $20 a gallon or more why risk it? I run only yamalube and I get it from Rockwall marine for $20-$21. Wish I could buy it bulk. I just don't think a dollar or two is worth possible motor trouble. Jmo

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#7116070 - 01/31/12 07:50 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
wormman Offline
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Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 808
Loc: Royse City, Texas
I also run ring free and startron/ stabil every tank. Pretty expensive but the way I look at a new motor is a hell of a lot more.

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#7116250 - 01/31/12 08:23 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
07yellowlegend Offline
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Registered: 10/22/11
Posts: 42
If you buy yamalube out of the bulk tank at fun n sun in hurst it's only 25 a gallon. A little more than other oils, but but cheaper than a new vmax.

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#7116256 - 01/31/12 08:24 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
lcbl75771 Offline
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Registered: 03/20/03
Posts: 739
Loc: Lindale, TX
I was told once by a shop that the reason it is recommended to run ring free with yamalube is because the yamalube has more carbon in it, thus the ring free to help with the build up of carbon. I run Merc. oil in my Yamaha, granted it is only a 90 HP, but I have not had a problem yet.
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#7116363 - 01/31/12 08:45 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Mark Perry Offline
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Registered: 01/09/04
Posts: 29346
Loc: Bridgeport, Texas
Been running the Chevron Lubricants outboard oil that Fun N Sun has in bulk for a while now. Runs clean and engine seems to be smooth. No issues at all.
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#7116590 - 01/31/12 09:25 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Grant2 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 4125
Loc: Humble,Tx US
Best thing to do is if you have no problems don't change find where it's cheaper and get it there. Every one will give you a different answer but in the end it's your motor you pick what's best.I would rather pay a little more than buy a new motor like said above.

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#7116633 - 01/31/12 09:38 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: cborden]
SWAC Offline
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Registered: 09/08/09
Posts: 136
Originally Posted By: cborden
I just spent 39.52 for one gallon of yamalube.. If this other stuff is just as good I have wasted a fortune already.


If you spent that I suggest you take it back and get your money. The most I have spent is $20 plus tax.

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#7116676 - 01/31/12 09:49 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
BIGDOG1956 Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 758
Here is my take on oil. My son has a 150hp Yamaha on his 02 skeeter.
The Yamaha oil runs reel dirty thus the need for ring free.
He decarbonized his motor twice with 2 can of cleaner to get the carbon out.
He started running the 100 to one even-rude synthetic oil.
He has been running this oil for four year.
The synthetic oil burn so clean he not had to decarbonized his motor.
The plugs come out looking like new no carbon them.

I have a 150hp Johnson on a 1998 triton tr-18.
I run the 100 to one even-rude synthetic oil this engine is a carberated motor.
Every one acts like I am crazy for paying $48 a gallon for oil.
My old Johnson starts easier and dose not smoke and the plugs come out clean.

I would recommend full synthetic oil in my engine!

There are allot of good oils out their!

Quit being cheep your oil is the life blood of your engine!

Which is cheaper a new power head $2000 or more or your oil.

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#7116841 - 01/31/12 10:39 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
TSpencer Offline
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Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Georgetown, TX

Don't confuse cheap price with cheap oil. They aren't necessarily the same.

Yes, Yamalube does dirty up the 02 sensor. Had lots of 02 issues with my 2001 225 VMAX early on. Haven't had any issues since switching to Pennzoil, Quicksilver and Citgo in 2002. Seems to run best on the Pennzoil Synthetic Blend.

Full synthetic would be even cleaner.

Just try to keep carbon to a minimum. Run a good de-carbon product like SeaFoam or RingFree.

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#7116899 - 01/31/12 11:08 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: wormman]
Fastest115GP100 Offline
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Registered: 06/27/11
Posts: 90
Loc: Mesquite
Originally Posted By: wormman
I also run ring free and startron/ stabil every tank. Pretty expensive but the way I look at a new motor is a hell of a lot more.


Yep, I add seafoam, startrom and blue stabil.
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#7118740 - 02/01/12 01:46 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Hoosier Daddy Offline
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Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 283
Loc: San Antonio TX
Thanks for the advise. I bought the Quick Silver Premium Plus. I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question, but does it hurt anything to pour it in my oil tank that is half full with Yamalube 2M.
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2007 Skeeter ZX190
175 HPDI

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#7118775 - 02/01/12 01:53 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
BIGDOG1956 Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 758
As long as the oil have the bia industie's same spec it wont make a differance.

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#7119011 - 02/01/12 03:09 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
bradnitro175 Offline
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Registered: 07/11/08
Posts: 1809
Loc: Dallas,tx
I've heard not to ever mix oils but who knowns

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#7119080 - 02/01/12 03:30 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
RedSkeeter Offline

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I've run Merc prem+ in my yamaha's for 11+ yrs.. They’ve all been HPDI's, a 150 and a 225.. They ran better with it, than the yamalube..Obviously 11+yrs, and much more than regular use is a testament to how good it is.. I do run ring free.
I can’t argue with the synthetic oils being overall superior, it’s all I run in the crank cases of every combustion engine vehicle, mower, etc, we own. It extends their life by 2+ fold IMO… I just don’t run it in my Outboards, prolly should..
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#7119176 - 02/01/12 03:54 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
fishmagnet Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hoosier Daddy
Thanks for the advise. I bought the Quick Silver Premium Plus. I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question, but does it hurt anything to pour it in my oil tank that is half full with Yamalube 2M.


Run your oil resevoir down as low as you feel comfortable, then add that Quick Silver.

I did this years ago when I switched from using regular Pennzoil to 100% Pennzoil Syn, did't hurt a thing!

Ran the tank down to about a 1/4 and poured a gallon of Pennzoil Syn on top, that was in 2003.
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#7119220 - 02/01/12 04:05 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
C.A.S.T. Offline
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Registered: 11/03/06
Posts: 1505
Loc: Texas
Will using a brand other than the manufacturer's suggested oil potentially void your warranty? In other words; if they find you're using a different brand oil and there is an engine failure will the manufacturer use this as reason to not warranty the engine?
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#7120735 - 02/01/12 09:46 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Skeeter443 Offline
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Registered: 01/29/12
Posts: 5
I have run my Pennzoil in my 250 HPDI since I bought it 2 years ago with no problems.

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#7120745 - 02/01/12 09:49 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Fish Killer Offline
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Registered: 12/11/04
Posts: 14873
Loc: Weatherford
They can not dictate what oil to run only what certified specifications (tcw3) it has to meet
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#7123132 - 02/02/12 02:04 PM Re: Yamaha Yamalube Oil Alternative [Re: Hoosier Daddy]
Lucas Lures Offline
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Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 300
Loc: Pennsylvania
Cabela's sells their own brand of oil that I put in my 2005 Yamaha. It is a couple of bucks cheaper.
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