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#7111450 - 01/30/12 07:18 PM Cartel's At It Again
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
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Loc: Justin, TX.
This is not far from Falcon. Don't even think about going to the border.
All information came from sources outside law enforcement.

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/sources-58295-reynosa-thursday.html
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#7111456 - 01/30/12 07:19 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Barrett Offline
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We need another event at falcon... will decrease the pressure.
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#7111472 - 01/30/12 07:24 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
StumpJumper1 Offline
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Registered: 04/14/08
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Loc: Lake Belton
mods please delete this post. my wife watches the tff, and i'm going to falcon next week. don't screw this up for me!!!
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#7111478 - 01/30/12 07:25 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
CorySmith Offline
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Registered: 11/24/10
Posts: 1046
Loc: Nacogdoches, TX
Dangerrr!!!! Whatcha self!!!! <<<<(juvenile voice)Hahaha I'll still go back to falcon
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#7111484 - 01/30/12 07:26 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: StumpJumper1]
Ronnie Kelley-Lake Fork Guide Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 3467
Loc: Lake Fork
Originally Posted By: StumpJumper1
mods please delete this post. my wife watches the tff, and i'm going to falcon next week. don't screw this up for me!!!

Post of the Month!!! I'm rolling, that's hilarious. I can just see the panic setting in. Lol
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#7111625 - 01/30/12 07:58 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
ZigZag Offline
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Shootin' in Reynosa is old news.
And, Reynosa is a fair hike from Falcon.
Food's better at Tinas anyway.
You guys down there enjoy.........and catch em'.....
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#7111672 - 01/30/12 08:09 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
BMFOP Offline
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 1436
Loc: Northeast Texas
Nothing new for Reynosa.

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#7111704 - 01/30/12 08:15 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: BMFOP]
ZigZag Offline
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Registered: 02/05/07
Posts: 532
Loc: Coffee Crk
Heil no! Nothin' new about the cartel killin' folks......
I was goin' to Table Rock, but they had a robbery, and an 23 assaults last night...in Branson...OMG! No way I'm going now....
Ever been to a Raiders game in Oakland? Take me to Falcon. smile
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#7111826 - 01/30/12 08:39 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
timwins31 Offline
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Registered: 02/04/11
Posts: 1152
Loc: DFW
Why do people still post these stories? You would think it's pretty clear by now that the people who are gonna fish Falcon are gonna go - regardless of how "dangerous" it may be. And thats without mentioning that it's probably more dangerous to go to a Mavs game than it is to fish Falcon.

You know how many gun shots I've heard fired at Falcon? Zero. I just heard one about 30 minutes ago outside my apartment and I live in a nice part of Lewisville.

Yawn. . .


Edited by timwins31 (01/30/12 08:41 PM)

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#7112032 - 01/30/12 09:07 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
pil,b Offline
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Registered: 05/30/11
Posts: 229
Loc: abilene,texas
Donald,are you still on your trip into Mexico on Feb.9th.

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#7112597 - 01/30/12 11:20 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
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Loc: Justin, TX.
I will be going down the West Coast and yes we are going. This post was not to discourage anyone from coming to Falcon. It is just good to know what is going on up the road.
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#7112635 - 01/30/12 11:42 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Barrett]
BIGGIL Offline
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Registered: 03/22/10
Posts: 514
Loc: Forney TX
Originally Posted By: Barrett
We need another event at falcon... will decrease the pressure.


What are you saying? Are you wishing for people to be hurt on Falcon for better fishing? Really? I'm certain that I have this all wrong. You can't possibly be that ignorant.
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#7112822 - 01/31/12 05:53 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: StumpJumper1]
firefighter1416 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/09
Posts: 56
Loc: Mansfield
I am getting the same! I told her that I would put the AR in the rod box,,,,that did'nt even help. Told her I would stay on the Texas side,,,,did'nt help either...Told her I would up my Life Insurance Policy,,,she said ''have a fun trip''...See u there soon

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#7112860 - 01/31/12 06:22 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
brokenjeep Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
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Loc: Princeton / lake Fork
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.

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#7112890 - 01/31/12 06:36 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: brokenjeep]
ssj3goten Offline
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Registered: 03/05/08
Posts: 1575
Loc: MS
Originally Posted By: brokenjeep
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.


When we stayed at the state park we heard the same thing in the middle of the night. I figured it was just the gang/drugs stuff but figured we were alright. Just have to be smart out there.
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#7112924 - 01/31/12 06:47 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: ssj3goten]
brokenjeep Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 2357
Loc: Princeton / lake Fork
Originally Posted By: ssj3goten
Originally Posted By: brokenjeep
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.


When we stayed at the state park we heard the same thing in the middle of the night. I figured it was just the gang/drugs stuff but figured we were alright. Just have to be smart out there.


I never felt uneasy but I am stupid in that way.

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#7113105 - 01/31/12 07:59 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: BIGGIL]
Barrett Offline
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Registered: 05/27/09
Posts: 3999
Loc: Denton Texas
Originally Posted By: BIGGIL
Originally Posted By: Barrett
We need another event at falcon... will decrease the pressure.


What are you saying? Are you wishing for people to be hurt on Falcon for better fishing? Really? I'm certain that I have this all wrong. You can't possibly be that ignorant.


You have it all wrong. Congrats hmmm thumb
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#7113143 - 01/31/12 08:10 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Okie Poke Offline
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Barrett.......I hate to interrupt this thread but WTH are you doing in your sig pic? Dude, that's my sister-in-law! You should have never posted this....PM sent!!!! mad
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#7113152 - 01/31/12 08:12 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Barrett Offline
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Registered: 05/27/09
Posts: 3999
Loc: Denton Texas
Okie,

That was a few years ago on a cruise out of New Orleannnnnnns. We were at the club. She looked up at me then I looked at her. Eye contact was made. It was magical. That night was one for the books.
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#7113226 - 01/31/12 08:36 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Chris Coufal Offline
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Registered: 09/04/09
Posts: 358
Loc: Austin, Tx
Friday afternoon while we were fishing the dam we heard about 100 rounds being fired off right across the border....

Didn't bother me though because we were catching fish!
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#7113233 - 01/31/12 08:37 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Okie Poke]
beermill Offline
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Registered: 05/24/07
Posts: 1133
Loc: Driving home with your money
Originally Posted By: Okie Poke
Barrett.......I hate to interrupt this thread but WTH are you doing in your sig pic? Dude, that's my sister-in-law! You should have never posted this....PM sent!!!! mad

So I'm also related to you????????
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#7113280 - 01/31/12 08:47 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 21113
Loc: Houston, TX
WOW!!! Donald, why did you post this? Happens in Reynosa every day. Nothing new. You're trying to scare people off of Falcon and the border, yet you and your "team" are driving into Mexico to fish? Pretty hypocritical if you ask me!
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#7113309 - 01/31/12 08:55 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Troyz Offline
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Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 1608
Loc: Spring Branch, TX
Reynosa is 100+ miles from Falcon. Guess some people just can't resist.....

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#7113321 - 01/31/12 08:57 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 21113
Loc: Houston, TX
Yeah, yet he drives to a lake in Sonora, bordered by the states of Chihuhua and Sinaloa. Do a little research on the violence in those states.
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#7113334 - 01/31/12 09:00 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
HEAVY SACK (aka Crankinstein) Offline
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Registered: 09/18/05
Posts: 971
Loc: East Fork
I always thought Reynosa was nice........25 years ago!

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#7113507 - 01/31/12 09:38 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: fouzman]
TDR_2 Offline
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Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 4663
Loc: Power Lines
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Yeah, yet he drives to a lake in Sonora, bordered by the states of Chihuhua and Sinaloa. Do a little research on the violence in those states.


No joke... Hidden agenda much?
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#7113745 - 01/31/12 10:38 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: fouzman]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Yeah, yet he drives to a lake in Sonora, bordered by the states of Chihuhua and Sinaloa. Do a little research on the violence in those states.


You need to stir that pot a little harder; your beans are burning.
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#7113773 - 01/31/12 10:41 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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Loc: Houston, TX
You're the one that attempted to stir the pot, sir!
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#7113798 - 01/31/12 10:46 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
Don't sir me fouzman for posting the news. I have as much right to be on here as you do. I have already said that it didn't have anything to do with fishing on Falcon and it wasn't even credited to police reports.
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#7113818 - 01/31/12 10:50 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Dillon Lee Offline
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#7113832 - 01/31/12 10:54 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 21113
Loc: Houston, TX
No one said anything about your "rights"

I just wondered why you posted a story titled "Cartel's At It Again" from something that happened in Reynosa where cartels are at it every day.

Then followed it up with "this is close to Falcon. Don't even think about going to the border" Your words not mine.

You can say whatever you want as to your intent DH. It's pretty obvious.
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#7113950 - 01/31/12 11:15 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
shacky Offline
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Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 252
Loc: Ft. Worth, TX
I dont understand and maybe someone can explain it to me-We can send military to other countries to save lives and bring piece but we have a huge problem of bullies killing people in a place that threatens the very place that we live and effects us daily. I feel for the families that are be pushed off the border, Boarder Patrol can only do so much and man do they have some big cahonies.

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#7113978 - 01/31/12 11:23 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Manchu Offline
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i love sittin on the banks of the rio at night and listening to the ak fire in juarez
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#7114002 - 01/31/12 11:29 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
buda13 Offline
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Registered: 07/02/04
Posts: 13537
Loc: NRH, TX
For a laugh, click the link below and scroll down to the bottom of the page... Wood county has a higher rate of Violent crime than Zapata County! rolfmao

http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/texas/wood/43


Edited by buda13 (01/31/12 11:46 AM)
Edit Reason: forgot link...
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#7114008 - 01/31/12 11:30 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
It is obivous to me that there are members of the TFF that ask quite often in their post about what is going on at our borders and in areas that they may be going. A 100 miles away is a great distance, but it is a place to stay away from, if you are going down there.
I have three sources in Mexico that report to me daily if there is bad things happening down the West Coast Hwy.. If I hear of anything going on in that direction I will report that also.
Fishing Mexico is something I have done for a life time to most people. When it is something you look at everyday and is of interest to me and my customers then I naturally want to share it with others. I haven't crossed the border at McAllen and Roma in the last couple of years; but I look forward to the day that I can safely do so.
I am sorry that so many people missed my points of reference.
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#7114035 - 01/31/12 11:36 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
junbengreat Offline
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Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 498
Loc: Cresson, TX
If it has nothing to do with Falcon or fishing why would you post it? Why did you pick Reynosa of all places to post a report on cartel violence. Ciudad Juatez is much worse if you were trying to scare ppl from going to the border. Heck why not post the drug violence in Nogales or the many $1 million drug busts that border patrol gets monthly there. I don't think you would cuz isn't that where you cross the border to get to lake oviachic?! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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#7114065 - 01/31/12 11:44 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: brokenjeep]
rock crawler Offline
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Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: brokenjeep
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.


So.............sounds like someone won a soccer game! Or maybe it was close to New Years slinger


Edited by rock crawler (01/31/12 11:45 AM)
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#7114075 - 01/31/12 11:47 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
You are wrong. I posted it because that area is an area of interest right now. No one is going to Juatez, as a point of reference. I do cross at Nogales and there is not a war going on there where the military is being ambushed and killing taking place. If there was I wouldn't be going.
This article was just the latest news I picked up and it happened to be at a point of interest in South Texas.
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#7114121 - 01/31/12 11:56 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
junbengreat Offline
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Area of interest to who? Could you post some latest news on some point of interests in south Arizona?!
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#7114150 - 01/31/12 12:03 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
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Loc: Justin, TX.
Sure, if there is any killing going on that effects our safety crossing the border.
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#7114198 - 01/31/12 12:14 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: rock crawler]
brokenjeep Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
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Loc: Princeton / lake Fork
Originally Posted By: rock crawler
Originally Posted By: brokenjeep
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.


So.............sounds like someone won a soccer game! Or maybe it was close to New Years slinger


This was on the 17th. of Jan.

I was watching the local news down there and they were telling of a trial going on in Laredo where a cartel member testified saying that a person gets $500 to carry a load of drugs across the border and a cartel member gets $10,000 a head and drugs for killing someone/anyone. While we were there a severed head was placed on the street just across the borber in Nuevo Laredo.

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#7114361 - 01/31/12 12:48 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: junbengreat]
Feljum Shwarper Offline
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Posts: 382
Loc: Salado, TX
Originally Posted By: junbengreat
Area of interest to who? Could you post some latest news on some point of interests in south Arizona?!


I was interested. Your opinion is like fingers, most people have them.

Drama

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#7114516 - 01/31/12 01:29 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: rock crawler]
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Originally Posted By: rock crawler
Originally Posted By: brokenjeep
I did not want to start a post like this one to ask this but is there a shooting range below the dam on Falcon? The reason I ask is because my wife and I were fishing along the dam and started hearing gun fire that lasted about thirty - forty five minutes, sometimes heavy with multiple guns sometimes light with only a couple firing.
We were about one hundred yards from the flags on the dam.


So.............sounds like someone won a soccer game! Or maybe it was close to New Years slinger


Possibly just someone's quinceanera
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#7114872 - 01/31/12 03:02 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Feljum Shwarper]
junbengreat Offline
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Loc: Cresson, TX
Originally Posted By: Feljum Shwarper
Originally Posted By: junbengreat
Area of interest to who? Could you post some latest news on some point of interests in south Arizona?!


I was interested. Your opinion is like fingers, most people have them.

Drama


Well for starters the original post had absolutely nothing to do with bass fishing except for saying it was near Falcon and Stay away from the border. It's pretty obvious what the intentions were. Second it had absolutetly nothing to do with bass fishing. Third, if you honestly believe he posted it with your safety in mind I have some magic beans I wanna sell you. There is absolutely no safe place to be at in Mexico. My father in law was kidnapped in Acuna near Del Rio while visiting his parents. They let him go thank God but he thought it was safe and it wasn't. Moral of the story: It had nothing to do with bass fishing.
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#7114964 - 01/31/12 03:30 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: junbengreat]
Donald Harper Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 3156
Loc: Justin, TX.
Originally Posted By: junbengreat
Originally Posted By: Feljum Shwarper
Originally Posted By: junbengreat
Area of interest to who? Could you post some latest news on some point of interests in south Arizona?!


I was interested. Your opinion is like fingers, most people have them.

Drama


Well for starters the original post had absolutely nothing to do with bass fishing except for saying it was near Falcon and Stay away from the border. It's pretty obvious what the intentions were. Second it had absolutetly nothing to do with bass fishing. Third, if you honestly believe he posted it with your safety in mind I have some magic beans I wanna sell you. There is absolutely no safe place to be at in Mexico. My father in law was kidnapped in Acuna near Del Rio while visiting his parents. They let him go thank God but he thought it was safe and it wasn't. Moral of the story: It had nothing to do with bass fishing.


You keep using the term obivous. Now tell us what the obvious reason is that I posted the article; if it was not for the safeity of the fisherman that go to Falcon and may think about crossing the border. I have left Zapata many times an took people across the boarder at Roma and Mcallen for different reasons. Our wives have gone from Zapate to Mcallen shopping. Families have gone to those towns to eat dinner and return to Zapata. There have also been post asking about Sugar Lake which is accross the border in the direction of the violance.
How tell me what is obvious, other than maybe your wife want let you go now. Maybe that is it, so you have a bone to pick.


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#7115079 - 01/31/12 04:01 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Thanks for posting Don....it's always nice to know what is going on across the border. Crossing the border into Mexico is dangerous right now,we need all the info we can get to make the decision to cross. That is the only way we know if it is safe at the time to cross. Again thanks for posting that info!

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#7115293 - 01/31/12 04:55 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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How about about posting news articles of violence in the area you take some of your customers fishing. I'm sure that would be more beneficial than say a border town hundreds of miles away. I like how you deemed all South Tx border towns dangerous (not arguing cuz they are) but let's please not assume that the point of entry (Nogales) you use is safe. Nogales is featured on Border Wars as one of the main drug smuggling routes. Where there are drugs there are cartels aka Sinaoloa Cartel which controls Sonora. As far as asking the wife for permission to go fish at falcon, of course I would out of respect for her and the answer will always be yes. I have been deployed to Iraq and would rather go back there than Mexico. At least there I can carry a weapon to defend myself. I wasn't trying to bash you but simply trying to state the obvious.
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#7115320 - 01/31/12 05:04 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Jesus, the guy posts a thread about current events regarding drug cartel violence on a South Texas border area and you guys crucify him. If you do business, travel, or fish on either side of the border it just reinforces the reality of what is going on, dont understand why you guys are attacking him. If the news interest you great, if it doesnt then move on to the next thread. Seems like some just want to argue for the sake of arguing......

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#7115530 - 01/31/12 06:00 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Believe me, I have looked as hard and as deep into violance at the boarder in Nogalas as I can look. I don't want to cross if there is a war going on. The only thing that has happened this week is one of the federal agents fired his gun into the air while some people at the fince was throwing rocks at them.
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#7115637 - 01/31/12 06:24 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Cub]
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Originally Posted By: Cub
Jesus, the guy posts a thread about current events regarding drug cartel violence on a South Texas border area and you guys crucify him. If you do business, travel, or fish on either side of the border it just reinforces the reality of what is going on, dont understand why you guys are attacking him. If the news interest you great, if it doesnt then move on to the next thread. Seems like some just want to argue for the sake of arguing......
X1000 thumb there are a couple on here telling people to move on all the time if you don't like it but are bashing this thread hummmmmm?

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#7115713 - 01/31/12 06:37 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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I really think theres alot of people who get on TFF and because they havent had a problem going into mexico or fishing the mex side . They always say I havent had problem. I hope not and I for one will still go to amistad and fish mexico my choice. But yawl 45000 plus have been killed in this bull. And it would serve you better to email your senators about our borders then act like you are protecting some fishing interest.We have been fortunate from this point that nobody we all know here has been involved. But if you choice to you are rolling dice sooner or later someone here will be where the lead meets the meat and and please stop disrespecting the inocent who have been killed in this bul!@#$ by trivializeing whats happening there with i havent had problem 45000 have.

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#7116012 - 01/31/12 07:41 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Cub]
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#7116210 - 01/31/12 08:15 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: bassackwards dav]
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Originally Posted By: bassackwards dav
I really think theres alot of people who get on TFF and because they havent had a problem going into mexico or fishing the mex side . They always say I havent had problem. I hope not and I for one will still go to amistad and fish mexico my choice. But yawl 45000 plus have been killed in this bull. And it would serve you better to email your senators about our borders then act like you are protecting some fishing interest.We have been fortunate from this point that nobody we all know here has been involved. But if you choice to you are rolling dice sooner or later someone here will be where the lead meets the meat and and please stop disrespecting the inocent who have been killed in this bul!@#$ by trivializeing whats happening there with i havent had problem 45000 have.


Do you think the typical cartel guy is cruising around on Falcon looking to kill American fisherman? There is a reason that there have been about 3 incidents over the last 3 years in a 35 mile plus area. The reason is the cartels could care less about us fisherman. We don't bother them, they don't bother us -- that simple. I would easily believe that 2 of the incidents had nothing to do with drug cartels at all -- just a few thieves that probably were taken out by the cartels for bringing unwanted attention to them.


To be honest, with the crowds heading down to Falcon now I'd prefer more people stay away out of fear. But let's be real about the danger of "rolling the dice". Jeez, we're so dramatic!
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#7116327 - 01/31/12 08:39 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: shacky]
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Originally Posted By: shacky
I dont understand and maybe someone can explain it to me-We can send military to other countries to save lives and bring piece but we have a huge problem of bullies killing people in a place that threatens the very place that we live and effects us daily. I feel for the families that are be pushed off the border, Boarder Patrol can only do so much and man do they have some big cahonies.


Thats my point is it to dramatic for ya. I for one know people who have lost family members across border but if it isnt effecting your fishing well whats it matter right. I will not go to surgar lake wish i had the cahonies to do it though. But as long as your safe on the lake Falcon guess its cool.

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#7116636 - 01/31/12 09:38 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Chet]
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#7116648 - 01/31/12 09:41 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: bassackwards dav]
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Originally Posted By: bassackwards dav
I really think theres alot of people who get on TFF and because they havent had a problem going into mexico or fishing the mex side . They always say I havent had problem. I hope not and I for one will still go to amistad and fish mexico my choice. But yawl 45000 plus have been killed in this bull. And it would serve you better to email your senators about our borders then act like you are protecting some fishing interest.We have been fortunate from this point that nobody we all know here has been involved. But if you choice to you are rolling dice sooner or later someone here will be where the lead meets the meat and and please stop disrespecting the inocent who have been killed in this bul!@#$ by trivializeing whats happening there with i havent had problem 45000 have.


I think it's silly to equate the Mexicans killing each other to danger to Americans.

Doesn't matter how many are killed on that side of the border, until those start happening here.

Everyone is well aware of what's going on in Mexico, and the fact that the cartels have a presence in every major US city. However, the Texas border towns are just as safe or safer than most big cities in the US.
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#7116707 - 01/31/12 09:56 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Well, I for one find Donald's post interesting. I spent 20+ years dragging a boat all over Mexico. The violence in Tampaulipas is way worse than the US press letting on. Like Donald, I have sources in Mexico that I get news from. I wouldn't fear crossing at Nogales at this time but there's no way I'd cross the Tx border. I hope this changes but fear that I'll not see it in my lifetime (I'm 55) I find it hard to understand why everyone is hog piling Donald.
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#7117099 - 02/01/12 05:07 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Panic or no panic. There wouldn't be that problem there if there wasn't a need here. Supply and Demand! Basic Economics! They are going to find a way to supply because we have so many users here.
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#7117154 - 02/01/12 05:56 AM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Big Red 12]
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Originally Posted By: Big Red 12
Panic or no panic. There wouldn't be that problem there if there wasn't a need here. Supply and Demand! Basic Economics! They are going to find a way to supply because we have so many users here.




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#7118425 - 02/01/12 12:22 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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The one thing I will say is that everytime someone makes a post about the area Falcon is in it takes money out of the pockets of the motels, guides,cafe's gas stations etc. I promise you if your lively hood depended on tourism you would think twice about making these post. Don't you think the people have taken enough [censored] over this situation? Don you may not have intended to take money out of these people's pockets because a story about violence in Mexico but you did.If you want to be a news reporter then be one. You can report 200 stories a day on violence within 100 miles of the border of Texas and you have the right to do so but please quit crapping on the poor people of Zapata!

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#7118482 - 02/01/12 12:37 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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bass fishing is serious business.. can we move this to off topic please?
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#7118502 - 02/01/12 12:42 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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I've spent tons of time in Mexico. Even spent a month wondering around the interior by myself. If you show respect to Mexican authorities, and even bad guys, you generally don't have a problem. If you have the "I'm a US citizen" attitude in their country, you will usually get reminded that you are in their country and need to respect the way they operate.

I'm just passing along my experience down there. This is in no way telling you not to be careful on Falcon.
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#7118696 - 02/01/12 01:35 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Elite Fleet]
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Originally Posted By: Elite Fleet
The one thing I will say is that everytime someone makes a post about the area Falcon is in it takes money out of the pockets of the motels, guides,cafe's gas stations etc. I promise you if your lively hood depended on tourism you would think twice about making these post. Don't you think the people have taken enough [censored] over this situation? Don you may not have intended to take money out of these people's pockets because a story about violence in Mexico but you did.If you want to be a news reporter then be one. You can report 200 stories a day on violence within 100 miles of the border of Texas and you have the right to do so but please quit crapping on the poor people of Zapata!


Why don't you ask JP. to let you start a pole to see how many fisherman on here are not going to go to Lake Falcon now because of violance in Reynose. Also start a pole to ask; now that they know that there is more trouble in Reynose now many will be crossing the boarder in that area.
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#7118731 - 02/01/12 01:44 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
This is not far from Falcon. Don't even think about going to the border.
All information came from sources outside law enforcement.

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/sources-58295-reynosa-thursday.html


Not far from Falcon?

75 miles?
That is like saying Lake fork has gang violence due to it proximity to Dallas.


Do not even think about going to the boarder?

Maybe you should state 75 miles away from Falcon since you pointed it out to begin with.


Information from outside sources other than law enforcement?

Don't reporters get paid for submitting controversial stories?

Just an observation.
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#7118868 - 02/01/12 02:22 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Posting the news is great, I was really confused as well when you typed" dont even think about going to the Border", yet your going to the border.
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#7118881 - 02/01/12 02:27 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Im tellin ya, we'd have a field day on this one down in the OT.. I mean, since it has absolutely nothing to do with bass fishing anyway..

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#7118938 - 02/01/12 02:43 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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It has everything to do with the people on here that go to that area to fish and cross the boarder. As the trouble had died down I was getting ready to cross in that area to make some trips. Now it is not safe for anyone who was thinking about crossing the boarder for any reason.
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#7118968 - 02/01/12 02:53 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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grammar police sez "BORDER"


Im afraid of Canadians. Hence my never fishing the great lakes.


I'd fish falcon right now, if I had the opportunity.
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#7118971 - 02/01/12 02:54 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: JustWingem]
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Originally Posted By: JustWingem
Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
This is not far from Falcon. Don't even think about going to the border.
All information came from sources outside law enforcement.

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/sources-58295-reynosa-thursday.html


Not far from Falcon?

75 miles?
That is like saying Lake fork has gang violence due to it proximity to Dallas.


Do not even think about going to the boarder?

Maybe you should state 75 mles away from Falcon since you pointed it out to begin with.


Information from outside sources other than law enforcement?

Don't reporters get paid for submitting controversial stories?

Just an observation.


Looks like a pretty good observation to me. Just seems like the original post was nothing more than an attempt to stir the Falcon pot more. Reynosa is a long ways from Falcon (at least 75 miles, probably closer to 100, so why even mention Falcon in the post. If it was really an attempt to warn people away from the border, then why not say stay away from Reynosa?? Businesses in and around the Falcon lake area are doing a good business from all the fishermen/fisherwomen being there. What say we don't needlessly try to run people off and make their economy even worse.

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#7118975 - 02/01/12 02:56 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Ride-or-Fish ®]
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grammar police sez "BORDER"



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#7118982 - 02/01/12 02:59 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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#7118986 - 02/01/12 03:00 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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I agree that this should be in the "off topic" section. The bass fishing section is for tips, techniques, and lake reports. Not news stories about how dangerous Mexico is. NEWS FLASH......

Mexico is dangerous!!! You're welcome.

Also wanted to add. I read a news story today about a man that was shot several times in his parked car about 5 min drive from where I work. The man later died at a hospital. Just a reminder that there is plenty of violence right here in our backyard. As long as you are smart and dont put yourself in a dangerous situation you should be fine.


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#7119079 - 02/01/12 03:30 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
It has everything to do with the people on here that go to that area to fish and cross the boarder. As the trouble had died down I was getting ready to cross in that area to make some trips. Now it is not safe for anyone who was thinking about crossing the boarder for any reason.


Why would anyone want to go to Reynosa right now?
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#7119161 - 02/01/12 03:52 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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When I first read the post, I took it ONLY as a recommendation to think twice about crossing the Mexican border (dry land or water) while you go fish Falcon. I now open up the post to see a bunch of extrapolation going on. Unless you truly know a persons heart there is no need for accusations. I'm guilty of it. I'm sure most of us on here have said things we shouldn't have or thrown rocks inside a glass house.

Sure wish I had more time to go fishing !!!

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#7119209 - 02/01/12 04:02 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Newsflash: Reynosa didn't become dangerous within the last couple months. It has been a cartel hotspot since 2010 when the Zetas and Gulf cartel split and they started fighting over the plazas. Not to mention the Mexican army making the biggest weapon seizure in their entire history. The seizure included 288 assault rifles, 126 handguns, 166 grenades, 14 TNT explosives, 500,000 cartridges, over 1,000 ammunition magazines, and a rocket launcher. I think the original post would of been great information in 2010. The story is one of many that has been going on for a couple of years. So like I said earlier.... What does this have to do with BASS Fishing??
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#7119309 - 02/01/12 04:29 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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It has to do with my Bass fishing, but maybe not yours or those that have already made the decision to never cross the border to begin with. As I have already said, I felt like things was beginning to calm down over there and was making plans to go across.
It was just two years ago that one of the highlights of a guided trip was to go to Mexico for the night life. As we all know that is another sad story.
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#7119401 - 02/01/12 04:50 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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#7119625 - 02/01/12 05:48 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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Not mad, just can't pull my head back into my shell.
That is all.
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#7119642 - 02/01/12 05:53 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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This thread has run its course.

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#7119703 - 02/01/12 06:06 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: HEAVY SACK (aka Crankinstein)]
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Originally Posted By: HEAVY SACK (aka Crankinstein)
This thread has run its course.


I bet you $100 bucks you wont go down to Falcon and cross over the border and drive 101 miles to Reynosa.

here are driving directions from Zapata:

2:01 from Zapata, Texas - 101 miles

Driving directions to Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico

Zapata, TX
1. Head southeast on US-83 E/US-83 S toward E 12th Ave
Continue to follow US-83 E
87.1 mi
2. Exit onto TX-107 N/U.S. 83 Frontage Rd S toward Conway Ave/Farm to Market Rd 1016
1.0 mi
3. Turn right onto S Conway Ave/Farm to Market Rd 1016
2.4 mi
4. Turn right onto Levee Rd
0.1 mi
5. Turn left to stay on Levee Rd
1.6 mi
6. Turn right onto Anzalduas Dam Rd
Entering Mexico
1.2 mi
7. Turn right toward Mexico 2/Nuevo Laredo-Reynosa
0.5 mi
8. Sharp left onto Mexico 2/Nuevo Laredo-Reynosa
5.0 mi
9. Turn right onto Río Mante
0.3 mi
10. Turn right onto Miguel Hidalgo/Carretera Federal 40
0.7 mi
11. Turn left onto Praxedis Balboa
0.6 mi
12. Turn right onto Río Purificación
0.3 mi
13. Turn right onto San Martin
285 ft
14. Take the 1st left onto Sol de Mayo
118 ft

Reynosa, Tamaulipas


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#7119774 - 02/01/12 06:21 PM Re: Cartel's At It Again [Re: Donald Harper]
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My dad fished for bass in Mexico in the mid and late 60's , there was issues back then concerning safety for Americans .

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