http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries...king/52394782/1

What do you think about this?

That the country is screwed and I won't be able to get a new job

I don't see how employers can legally state that an employee may not use tobacco outside the workplace i.e. off the clock. It'd be no different than an employer saying that employees are not allowed to drink alcohol on their own time.

I sense nanny state behind this ...

It's only the beginning.

Strangely enough though, the last two jobs I've had, I have not had to take a pre-employment UA.

bought this dang wizzinator and haven't even had to use it!

Do you know that If I was to post that i was hiring, but i will only hire smokers, someone would sue me for discrimanation. I hate double standards. Its not going to reduce Insurance premiums, the insurance companies are going to find something else to use as an excuse as to why its not reduced.

They say its for health care costs...I have smoked for 33 years, and my time may be coming, but I have been to a Doctor 1 time in 25 years, and that was from Breaking my leg racing motorcycles, I get sick once a year...maybe.

Motorcycle helmet laws, Im all for helmets, but they say its because the states and health care...Most people who can afford a bike also has insurance, Thes states dont pay for motorcycle fatalities.


Smokes are Legal...They shouldnt be able to do this.

Anybody who thinks a business is run like a democracy is delusional.

The ONLY rights a potential candidate has is clearly detailed by the EEOC.

wait until you have to step on a scale to go to work. To a large degree this already happens, but employers can't just plainly say a person is too fat aka, high risk, to hire. They just won't hire them. (not counting flight attendants and the like)

its their company, if you dont want the job dont apply if you cant live with their rules...America rocks !!!!

If you don't like the company policy, don't apply.

Are there any employers who encourage employees to stop smoking cigs and start usinf the healthier alternative - wacky tobaccy?

Didn't ya'll see that story last week?

-Alton

at FXCM, it wasn't a pre-req, but you had to take a UA to check for tobacco if you wanted to get your health insurance at a discounted rate. I really didn't have any problem with doing it that way, because if someone wants to smoke, let them, but not at the cost of every other employees' insurance premiums.

Stuff like that goes on all the time. It's often not legal but how do you enforce it?

thats true, But i have a company policy of Only hot women, Or I only hire people between 25 - 35, Or I only hire catholics, Or I only hire smokers...Im gonna get sued...At least dont havedouble standards where the law allows discrimination for all instead of just smokers.

No wonder Hollywood casino sold out to El Dorado here.

Here is who smokers should be mad at:

Obama and his band of idiots. Rising health insurance premiums directly due to Obamacare. Insurers are raising rates, mine and everyone elses to buffer some money to help pay for the day Obamacare kicks in in its entirety. So, go ahead and vote for some Democrats next time around and seal your fate.

"Such tobacco-free hiring policies, designed to promote health and reduce insurance premiums"

you can't without trying to catch it in the act, or someone internally ratting a person out for mentioning those type things. I 'm sure that and all kinds of other bias come out in the hiring process.

my dad is currently getting a nice taste of age discrimination. he's 61 and probably knows more about automation and sheet metal fabrication than 95% of the people that work with either on a daily basis. no one wants to hire an old guy that knows more than the hiring manager though. sucks, I feel terrible for him. I wish he'd started his own business long ago though, but he remained loyal to the sorry company he worked at until they moved to Kentucky.

Meh,just another place I wont spend money. Pretty soon I'll get to KEEP IT ALL !

Obama wasnt even heard of when they started this... I went to a place for work in the late 90's who already had it listed they wouldnt hire smokers, although Im not sure any testing was in place at the time.

i like it. we had to take a urine test the first day of our xray tech program. One guy was "asked" to leave the following Monday. We werent told whether he passed or failed, just that he was not going to be with the class anymore... and our results were in from our urine tests.

smokers stink, and it could make patients puke all over the place if they smelled that stench on an employee. i dont want to clean puke off me or the machines...

Wish I had known this 2-3 years ago, Our sheet metal shop could have used someone like that.

I'm torn. On one hand, HOW DARE THEY. Its none of their business what I do in my free time.
On the other, its a free market. More power to 'em. You're not required to work there.

But its infringing on my rights to do what I will in my own house.

But they already do that by saying a growing thing is illegal.

Slippery slope, and I'm too much of an individualist to like it.

"its a free market"

that opens them up to too much control...Nobody ever stops at just smokers. If they can control that they will extend to the next thing they can control.

Then why is it there are no male Hooters waiters?

Why is it there are no male Dallas Cowboys' cheerleaders?

Why is it they haven't been sued successfully?

Obvious discrimination to me.

This is just an example of strings being attached to employee benefits.

I've already said that if I ever become extremely wealthy, I am going to hire all the stoners. A UA would be required, but you would have to fail to be considered for work.

We'd just sit around all day brainstorming and eating stuff, but never get anything done. We'd hire tweakers to get the work done and keep the office clean.