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#7088664 - 01/24/12 07:14 PM Yanks Posada hangs it up
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jorge-posada-new-york-yankees-retirement-012412/?ocid=ansfox11
Never really cared to much for the Yanks but Jorge was pretty solid player for thos guys. Much respect for that guy.
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#7088690 - 01/24/12 07:20 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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2nd year hall of famer. unless the voters realize they are idiots and start voting in players that have done roids. the hall of fame should reflect the history of baseball not try and recreate it.
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#7088790 - 01/24/12 07:47 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Never liked him as a player. But as a baseball fan he was a hell of a player and a gentlemen to the game. Sounds like an all around great guy
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#7088819 - 01/24/12 07:55 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Meh... Another just above average player who had the benefit of playing for a very dominant team. Not many hall of famers batting out of the 7 spot in the line up.

He is supposedly a super nice guy though, and as much as I hate this cliche' , "played the game the right way".

Hall of Famer though?? come on.
not a chance..

273 career batting average, 275 home runs and 1,065 RBI don't get it done.
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#7089038 - 01/24/12 08:35 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Not a Yankees Fan at all...I am a big Posada fan.

You never saw him get caught up in anything over his entire career...great role model for kids and an awesome baseball player in my book
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#7089052 - 01/24/12 08:41 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Kind of agree with Jdavis- I don't think his numbers are quite HOF numbers. But I think alot of guys that are in his era may not get in due to the steroids, this may open the door for him down the road to get in? Him being a HOF'er is a tough one to decide.
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#7091522 - 01/25/12 12:10 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Not a hall of famer. Just an average player on a great team.

Since when do we reward people for not farting in trouble? Isn't the norm supposed to be not getting in trouble.
Posada couldn't shine pudge rod's cup. Pudge is the best catcher of his time.

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#7091529 - 01/25/12 12:11 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Posada best thing was staying healthy quite a bit for a catcher.

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#7091536 - 01/25/12 12:12 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: WEEBS]
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#7091708 - 01/25/12 12:46 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Posada, Petit, Jeter, Rivera

5 World Championships

Quite the record
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#7091791 - 01/25/12 01:04 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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i hate the spankies
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#7091957 - 01/25/12 01:41 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Average # for a ball player and wouldnt be hall material, But those # as a catcher are well above average. His average is less but his # per year are better than Pudge and everyone thinks he will get in the hall...Why would pudge make it and posada wouldnt? Pudge only played 4 years longer and is making himself look silly by poor performance. If Pudge makes it in, Posada has to...Helping your team to Championships helps as well.
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#7091994 - 01/25/12 01:51 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: WaterLogged]
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Originally Posted By: WaterLogged
Average # for a ball player and wouldnt be hall material, But those # as a catcher are well above average. His average is less but his # per year are better than Pudge and everyone thinks he will get in the hall...Why would pudge make it and posada wouldnt? Pudge only played 4 years longer and is making himself look silly by poor performance. If Pudge makes it in, Posada has to...Helping your team to Championships helps as well.
you ever see pudge play. He made Posada look like a little leaguer.

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#7092007 - 01/25/12 01:54 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Posada better than Pudge???? Hahahaha! You have GOT to he joking me. That is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. They MIGHT be comparable offensively, but Jorge can't sniff Purges defensive jock!

Jorge:
5 time all Star
5 time Silver slugger
0 league MVPs
ZERO gold gloves

Pudge:
14 time all star
7 time Silver slugger
1 AL mvp ('99)
THIRTEEN gold gloves...


We still wanna compare the 2 catchers?
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#7092012 - 01/25/12 01:55 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Pudge also hit #2 in the lineup quite a few years. I think Posada was a career 8-9 hitter. Don't get me wrong, Posada was a serviceable catcher. I'm just saying there have been a lot of posados out there through the years.

Don't put him in just because he is a Yankee.

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#7092041 - 01/25/12 02:02 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: Manchu]
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i hate the spankies

Frank and me love the Spankies. grin


Edited by flounder#1 (01/25/12 02:02 PM)
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#7092051 - 01/25/12 02:03 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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I don't think they were comparable offensively. I remember pudge carrying the team quite a bit. Also remember a game where pudge had 8 rbi after batting three times. Only thing that probably evened the numbers is it took pudge a few years to light up the bat. He more than made up for it with defense. One of the best all time.

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#7092054 - 01/25/12 02:03 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: WEEBS]
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Originally Posted By: WEEBS
Originally Posted By: WaterLogged
Average # for a ball player and wouldnt be hall material, But those # as a catcher are well above average. His average is less but his # per year are better than Pudge and everyone thinks he will get in the hall...Why would pudge make it and posada wouldnt? Pudge only played 4 years longer and is making himself look silly by poor performance. If Pudge makes it in, Posada has to...Helping your team to Championships helps as well.
you ever see pudge play. He made Posada look like a little leaguer.

That is all wrong. grin
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#7092239 - 01/25/12 02:50 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Never have been a Posada fan, he seemed to slow the game down too much, especially when ny played boston.
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#7092939 - 01/25/12 05:18 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Not Hall of Fame Material.
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#7093114 - 01/25/12 06:01 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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I never said better...I said numbers that are the same in comparison. Silver slugger , gold gloves are comparing you to the others in your position...If all others catchers arent that good they are going to win it. I never thought Pudge was bad, but not head and shoulders above Posada...Of course Pudge was ging to bat 2nd in a lineup of teams that...Umm, werent very good. Posada, with the same numbers almost wasnt going to bat early in yankees lineup because they have always had better bats..and btw, Posada was batting 5-6 just a few years ago.

HOF Voters dont vote by how you make others look, they go by stats AND the accomplishments listed.
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#7093318 - 01/25/12 06:49 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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I can't say Jorge will ever get in,but #20 will never die in the eyes of true YANKEE fans like me. He will forever be one of the CORE-4, a group that baseball historians will be talking about till the end of time. I'm glad he retired a YANKEE and never wore another uniform. Good luck to Jorge and I will always love him as one of the greatest YANKEES of all time. #20 may never enter Canton, but will be on the wall one day in YANKEE STADIUM.I can't wait to tell my son about him when he gets bigger. However,PUDGE is the best catcher I've ever seen.

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#7093323 - 01/25/12 06:50 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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johnny bench was by far the best catcher ever
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#7093354 - 01/25/12 06:57 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: Manchu]
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Originally Posted By: Manchu
johnny bench was by far the best catcher ever


+1 on Bench

Im not saying pudge wasnt great, Im saying he wasnt head and shoulders better, hes not a lock as a HOF, but If he makes it, there are a few others that should make it as well, 1 being Posada. Piazza was all offense, If Joe Mauer woul get healthy He would probably be the best offensive catcher I have seen. There arent that many great ones as far as catchers, Most were really good or just average.
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#7093451 - 01/25/12 07:17 PM Re: Yanks Posada hangs it up [Re: lvngstonbassmn]
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Not a Hall of Famer just a solid player on some great teams.

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