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#7006813 - 01/03/12 12:16 PM
Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/26/09
Posts: 4021
Loc: A wandering Nomad
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I have never had luck dead sticking. I know it works cause I see people catching fish all around me.
In the winter you dead stick? True? You have to just float the bait in front of them and hope they eat it. That is the winter fishing method.
My question is this...If that is the winter method, how is it that Dennis Christian can go out in the winter and use his same old Mepps way of fishing and catch fish in the winter?
So now then, is dead sticking just one of several ways to catch fish in the winter? If so, what are the others? We have 1. Dead sticking 2. Dennis C's Mepps method 3. ? 4. ? 5. ?
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#7006863 - 01/03/12 12:31 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 1315
Loc: Marble Falls
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You can catch hybrids/stripers/whites on slabs right now, as well as live and cut shad. I think the key is slooooow your presenatation.
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#7006873 - 01/03/12 12:33 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Registered: 09/24/02
Posts: 8600
Loc: Crossroads,TX, USA
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One thing you might try if you're not getting bit deadsticking the traditional way is downsizing. I downsized to crappie gear - light action rod, 6# line and a 1/16oz roadrunner. You have to deadstick in order to keep that roadrunner down deeper. The lighter gear will help you realize light bites. <edit> I don't catch any big fish. So I can get away with using crappie gear. 
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#7006896 - 01/03/12 12:40 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 1315
Loc: Marble Falls
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Hear lately on Buchanan me and my fishing buddies have been killing them on slabs. the secret is to lift the slab up maybe a foot off the bottom drop and let it sit there for several seconds then repeat. Just tried deadsticking yesterday so I am going to focus on that in the coming weeks. I think braid with floro leader will help feel thos light bites. One thing is hook sets are free.
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#7007007 - 01/03/12 01:16 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 329
Loc: Rockwall
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1. Dead sticking 2. Dennis C's Mepps method 3. Dynomite 4. Nitro Glycerin 5. Hand Grenades
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#7007015 - 01/03/12 01:17 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Angler
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 329
Loc: Rockwall
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The last three result in a difficult release.
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#7007320 - 01/03/12 02:51 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/26/09
Posts: 4021
Loc: A wandering Nomad
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For someone like me who is Type-A with ADD it takes every ounce of patience in me to do it right! You got that right. man, dead sticking is about as boring as it gets, I might add.
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#7007354 - 01/03/12 02:57 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Registered: 09/24/02
Posts: 8600
Loc: Crossroads,TX, USA
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For someone like me who is Type-A with ADD it takes every ounce of patience in me to do it right! You got that right. man, dead sticking is about as boring as it gets, I might add. Try spider rigging. 
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#7007365 - 01/03/12 02:59 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 3084
Loc: rockwall
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Austin I've always thought you should've been a lawyer!!! Lol.
You've tried dead stickin maybe only 2 times. Once was last year on Twak, and Once was with me this year. You caught a huge hybrid last year.
Then you watched me and you're girlfriend catch 2 huge hybrid right in front of you! Fish more during the winter, it pays of big time! I've caught more big fish this winter, than almost 2 seasons of fishing.
I'm actually just razzin ya, but you just need to fish More!!
Let's go buddy.
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#7007386 - 01/03/12 03:08 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Registered: 01/13/11
Posts: 1454
Loc: Plano Texas
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(Keith you probably saw it in those fish we caught) ! Yep Frank I forgot to mention in my report the fish were STUFFED with 1 inch to 1 1/2 inch shad. Yes I actually measured them .  and they had just eaten them because digestion was just starting  In other words they were still whole shad 
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#7007405 - 01/03/12 03:17 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 03/18/05
Posts: 165
Loc: Lubbock/Plano
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Not trying to sound like an idiot but when you guys say "slabs" you mean spoons correct? Also the color of choice appears to be chartrouse or mellow yellow? thanks
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#7007440 - 01/03/12 03:26 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 3084
Loc: rockwall
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A spoon is a bit different from a slab. Most slabs are built with a straight kind of profile. Spoons normally have some curve to the shape, and Normally are limited in colors. Spoons are normally lighter in weight compared to slabs.
They both can work, but slabs with the added weight can normally be kept a little better in the strike zone. Not saying spoons don't work, cause they do! IE the kahoona spoon from Moes tackle. Certain times of the year they produce big fish.
Good luck
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#7007467 - 01/03/12 03:32 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
[Re: Shawn Z]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/26/09
Posts: 4021
Loc: A wandering Nomad
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Not trying to sound like an idiot but WOW! what an idiot question that was!  I am totally kidding! i am sure my entire post is more of a stupid thread than anything! Mike, I KNOW! I wasn't asking because I think dead sticking is BS and because I don't like it - I have just always heard it IS THE WAY to fish in the winter and then when I read Dennis's post yesterday I though, mhhh - how many other ways are there! I see the big fish being caught, I just prefer the warm sun shining on me when I'm fishing...and probably knowing that I'll see a few bikini girls during the summer! 
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#7007507 - 01/03/12 03:43 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 3084
Loc: rockwall
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I also saw Dennis's post, and thought the same thing! Dennis didn't say How slow he was working the lure, so we don't really know. He just said slow.
Truth is follow all you're buddy's that know how to fish and clean up their sloppy seconds!!!!!
Lol
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#7008274 - 01/03/12 07:02 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/17/09
Posts: 934
Loc: Mesquite, Texas
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I know some of you will say this is poo but last Saturday we fished Slabs and Dead Sticked Plastics. All sandbass caught came off of slaps not one Hybrid was caught on a slab and all the Hybrids caught were off dead sticking the plastics. Who knows try it all.
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#7009721 - 01/04/12 06:53 AM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 3163
Loc: Richardson TX
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VIP, my personal experiment with slabs vs. flukes on my past 5 deadstick trips, in December, at Texoma, at Ray Hubbard, and Twok. Either me or one of the guys on my boat used slabs and the rest used flukes.
My results:
Texoma: slabs caught more fish but smaller stripers, a kitty and sandies with occasional good striper. Flukes caught majority of the quality striper and sandies.
RH: slabs caught more fish...sandies, yellows, goos, kitties. Flukes caught quality fish, Hybrids and bigger sandies.
Twok: Flukes caught way more hybrids stripers and magnum sandies. Slabs resulted in two kitties, lol
But like I told Terry and Ray last Saturday, deadstick is not for everyone, when we saw a couple of guys catching NADA for the day. If you are fortunate to fish with Lakeguide or Bill Davis and Tammy, I bet they catch at least 100-300+ QUALITY hybrid/stripers just last week, each, deadstiking. ITS VERY EFFECTIVE!!
Edited by SeaPro-Todd (01/04/12 06:53 AM)
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#7010165 - 01/04/12 09:35 AM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
[Re: SeaPro-Todd]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 03/05/09
Posts: 83
Loc: Princeton,TX
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My take on it is this. Any one that post on here how they managed to have a good day is giving you free advice. You can take it or leave it. Personally I am grateful for any insight that anyone has been kind enough to share. I try to remember everything that I have read or tried and start with what I think is best and if it works great if not try other things. I believe the phrase "Deadsticking" is just a nickname for presenting your lure way slower than one would think. Just like JD said "Hooksets are free", so is different presentations. If I get a chance to fish soon Im gonna start with a fluke held still in my hand with a shad on another pole in the holder. With a wildeye waiting in the wings beside a TNT slab! Hopefully I will be able to add some info to the reports soon if the dam wind will quit blowing everytime I have a free day! JMHO Robert
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#7011028 - 01/04/12 01:34 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 03/25/09
Posts: 5644
Loc: DFW Metromess
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i agree with todd. the flukes & slabs out performed other baits when the water got to 50*. but what works for one doesn't ness. work for everyone. i cant use The Dennis Christian method when its warm. i challenge the masses to try to imitate what hes doing now.  think the flukes being thinner towards the tail allows for more action with less movement.  also think one could add a big ol curly tail grub to the list for the same reason. haven't tried it YET but think it would be a producer for cold water the slow or dead sticking method.  scented plastics and dipped baits make em hold it a lil longer which allows me more time to set the hook.
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#7011201 - 01/04/12 02:29 PM
Re: Do you have to deadstick?
[Re: Fish ZoMbiE]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 3084
Loc: rockwall
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I agree Zombie. Haven't tried a curly tail, but Those flukes work wonders.
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