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#6977448 - 12/26/11 09:44 AM
Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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The Weatherford Utility board is selling large quantities of water again, this time to a bankrupt golf course, according to the Weatherford Democrat. That is what happens when used car salesmen manage your lake. Lake Weatherford is currently 8 feet low. The board previously voted to stop purchasing water from TRWD because of the cost of running the pumps. If they had purchased the water in a timely manner the lake would not have been low. The pumping cost is only $4000 a day, which is fully recovered from the water customers. The board has sold millions of gallons of water to oil companies to support drilling and fracking operations according to published reports.
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#6977700 - 12/26/11 11:41 AM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/09/04
Posts: 29344
Loc: Bridgeport, Texas
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Was the lake built to be a water source?
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#6977734 - 12/26/11 11:52 AM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Mark Perry]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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Was the lake built to be a water source? Yes. In 1956. Good point. However, the lakeside property has been promoted for many years as a recreational lake and the property owners have invested large sums on the premise that a reasonable lake level would be maintained. Also, I think that allowing the lake to go so low is flirting with not being able to provide water to the city if the drought continues. Cashing in on short term income does not seem prudent.
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#6977939 - 12/26/11 02:29 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 06/02/11
Posts: 842
Loc: dalllas texas
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Was the lake built to be a water source? Yes. In 1956. Good point. However, the lakeside property has been promoted for many years as a recreational lake and the property owners have invested large sums on the premise that a reasonable lake level would be maintained. Also, I think that allowing the lake to go so low is flirting with not being able to provide water to the city if the drought continues. Cashing in on short term income does not seem prudent. This is what happens when you let real estate salesmen to sell property lakeside.
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#6978576 - 12/26/11 06:53 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 1577
Loc: Area 51
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Weatherford Utility Board = Idiots.
I would bet good money that not a one of them has lake front property on Lake Weatherford.
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#6979027 - 12/26/11 09:17 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Angler
Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 343
Loc: Granbury , Texas
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A lot of rain will make all this go away
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#6979089 - 12/26/11 09:45 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Fish'n Cynic]
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Super Freak
Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 50063
Loc: burleson, tx.
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Weatherford Utility Board = Idiots.
I would bet good money that not a one of them has lake front property on Lake Weatherford. Why would that have any bearing on the decision?
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#6979154 - 12/26/11 10:11 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 1577
Loc: Area 51
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Because if any of the board members had shoreline property, they would want water as close to their shoreline as possible. And I think they would not vote to sell water from a lake that they lived on or owned property on. I have never known anyone who lived on a lake who liked their lake to drop several feet where they could not access the lake easily.
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#6980728 - 12/27/11 01:58 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 1577
Loc: Area 51
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David, I totally agree with your post. But that is the problem and my point. While they "should" make the best decision based on what is best for the community, too many times, money and politics come into play when water boards make decisions. That is why I said that if a board member owned property on the lake, they would vote in "their" "best interest" and not that of the community. It is the "Good old boy" club many times! And that is why it is not in the communities best interest to sell water from Lake Weatherford while Texas is experiencing a major drought.
Edited by Fish'n Cynic (12/27/11 02:00 PM)
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#6983178 - 12/28/11 07:44 AM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 2237
Loc: Cleburne, Texas
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That is what happens when you let boat salesmen manage property...always have a catch to it in the long run.
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#6984348 - 12/28/11 12:24 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Hog Jaw]
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Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 8687
Loc: At the Terrell WalMartz
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A lot of rain will make all this go away Don't hold your breath
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#6984368 - 12/28/11 12:29 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Smithaven]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 03/22/07
Posts: 5526
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you cant have it both ways. if you are going to tax the heck out of water front owners and get the benefits of that, you cant sell ruin their property values. see lake travis.
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#6995629 - 12/31/11 02:42 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: soggybottom]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/09/04
Posts: 29344
Loc: Bridgeport, Texas
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you cant have it both ways. if you are going to tax the heck out of water front owners and get the benefits of that, you cant sell ruin their property values. see lake travis. Homeowners do not own the waterfront at Weatherford. Its lease back if I recall.
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#6995645 - 12/31/11 02:46 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: soggybottom]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 507
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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you cant have it both ways. if you are going to tax the heck out of water front owners and get the benefits of that, you cant sell ruin their property values. see lake travis. I know Weatherford and the lake has it problems. But how are they taxing the heck out of water front owners? There is no special tax for them. They pay the same rate as me, as a Weatherford homeowner.
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#6995655 - 12/31/11 02:49 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Mark Perry]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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you cant have it both ways. if you are going to tax the heck out of water front owners and get the benefits of that, you cant sell ruin their property values. see lake travis. Homeowners do not own the waterfront at Weatherford. Its lease back if I recall. The land is on "license". The real estate improvements are owned by the homeowner, who pay taxes on their property.
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#6996317 - 12/31/11 06:00 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Fish Killer]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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At least they will be starting on the new boat ramp project soon. The marina new ownership and the city finally got off there butts and going to fix a 30 year old problem.
I resent that. We poured a new ramp in 2006. If the city had managed the lake and pumped in water when they could have the new ramp would have been more than adequate. We certainly were not "on our butts." The new ownership is certainly to be commended for all the improvements they have made, but look at all we accomplished too. We built new slips, gas pumps, a new store and many other things.
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#7004248 - 01/02/12 06:35 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Fish Killer]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 06/22/02
Posts: 181
Loc: Granbury,Texas
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Steve and Cynthia did many good things for the marina. I have been fishing out there for almost 30 years now.
Really hard to say that a "new ramp" was poured. All that was done was a new top cap poured about 3/4 of the way down. It too steep, uneven, and is at a bad angle towards the slips. It sucks then and still. It may be fine for a bass buster, but anything bigger and your going to have a issue, unless you know the sweet spot to jack-knife it and hope you get it even
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#7007349 - 01/03/12 02:56 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Fish Killer]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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Really hard to say that a "new ramp" was poured. All that was done was a new top cap poured about 3/4 of the way down. It too steep, uneven, and is at a bad angle towards the slips. It sucks then and still. It may be fine for a bass buster, but anything bigger and your going to have a issue, unless you know the sweet spot to jack-knife it and hope you get it even
I started to let this go by, but it is just too wrong to overlook. As you can see from this picture taken during construction, there was no "cap". The old ramp was completely removed and a new ramp was poured.The water was 9 feet low at the time. As far as the ramp being too steep, we studied Corps of Engineers and TPWD documents to see what they recommended. The ramp is in the middle range of their recommendations. The ramp had to be sandwiched in between the gas pumps and the slips, and the result is certainly not ideal.  The plain fact of the matter is the new ramp worked great so long as the lake was near full. When the water level dropped it was no longer satisfactory. But even when the level was low I launched large boats for our customers with no problem.
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#7008760 - 01/03/12 08:40 PM
Re: Weatherford Utility Board is at it again.
[Re: Rick Paradis]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1028
Loc: Weatherford, Texas
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I am not sure when that pictue was taken, but the ramp at Weatherford has never to my knowledge been that wide, we could only wish it was.
It takes a very experienced boater to launch a boat at that ramp, I am not sure what regulations were taken into affect, but that is one the steepest in or around the metroplex.
If you take a boat over 18ft out there and actually get the boat off the trailer, there's a good chance you will damage your trailer taken it out.
So, I am not sure I would be tooting my horn about repairs because I dont see much of an improvement. The picture was taken in 2006 when we poured the present ramp. The present ramp is exactly that wide. The point I keep trying to make and cannot seem to get across is that the ramp, with all its faults, is perfectly adequate when the lake is full or nearly so. I also want to make it clear that I have no connection with the present owners, and I wish them the best.
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