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#7090602 - 01/25/12 09:05 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
mad mike Offline
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Registered: 02/25/03
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Loc: Granbury Texas USA
Granbury got hit hard. The striper population is done and the rest of the game fish will take a few years without GA to begin to recover. Not likely due to the BRA and occasional droughts. I haven't heard anything about Whitney but I think PK got hit again. This is now re-named Lake Deadbury.
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#7090734 - 01/25/12 09:35 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: mad mike]
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Registered: 03/23/10
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Loc: Granbury
Originally Posted By: mad mike
Granbury got hit hard. The striper population is done and the rest of the game fish will take a few years without GA to begin to recover. Not likely due to the BRA and occasional droughts. I haven't heard anything about Whitney but I think PK got hit again. This is now re-named Lake Deadbury.


Deadbury! rolfmao I can leave my house and be idling away from the ramp in less than 10 minutes and I still refuse to fish the lake.But if anyone can catch fish there it is fisherman 4 life.If he gives it a good report in a month or two I might have to try it.

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#7090788 - 01/25/12 09:44 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
backlash2059 Offline
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Registered: 02/23/11
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Loc: Tolar, Texas
That poor lake deserves a break for a change

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#7090857 - 01/25/12 09:55 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: backlash2059]
Morgan Turner Offline
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Loc: Glen Rose, Texas
hopefully they dont keep the gates wide open
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#7092499 - 01/25/12 03:55 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: Granbury
We will. The levels are great. I think we will be close to full capacity by the time all the runoff makes its way to the lake. We have been saved again.

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#7092702 - 01/25/12 04:32 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Registered: 03/04/03
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Loc: Whitney Tx. USA
When Granbury released water for the bio chemicle co. (Granbury sold like 9' of water rights)the algae spread down stream and killed a lot of fish in the upper Brazos below Granbury Dam, we started to get a bloom and small kill way up north (carp and a few Sandies) mainly the Brazos river part of Whitney but the good Lord spared us a major algae bloom with the rain. The Brazos, Nolan River and all the creeks are flooded and roaring dumping a lot of water in Whitney. This will dilute the salinity and stop the golden algae from blooming. I would like to see a lot more rain but this will definately help. I talked to Melissa the TPWD biologist and she said the bloom at Granbury was about over(That was Monday), with all the fresh water it should be ok now.
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#7092738 - 01/25/12 04:39 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Originally Posted By: fisherman_4life
Thank God for the abundance of rain fall. This might of saved the remainder of fish on the lake. This rain will help the turbidity. Making it hard for the GA to continue blooming. Fortunately we didn't get hit as hard as Whitney. I've been told over 60% of fish population there died. Don't know how true the figures are. But I know Granbury didn't take that big of a loss.


WOW, where did you here this? Look at TPWD website and we hadn't even had a toxicty level untill Granbury sent water down south, then we saw a small kill way up north in the brazos, that was this past Monday that I went up an observed it, I saw a few carp and 1 catfish. A lot of fish still being caught on the main lake and all the way to the dam.Please get your info right before posting on a public forum,some of us are trying to make a living down here, . Sorry Granbury got his so hard.
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#7092811 - 01/25/12 04:50 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: HighTech Redneck]
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You may be reffering to 2010 when we lost an estmated 60,000 fish but if you do the math with the lake being 23,500 acres that is around 2.96 dead fish per surphace acre, not per volume acre. Bad but not devistating, come to Whitney and rip some lips. TPWD biologist just released our annual fishing forecast and report for Whitney and at the time of the kill in 2010 we where at an all time high in fish population and didn't notice a difference. Whitney is in great shape and we where saved by the rain, just in time I think with what was headed our way! I called TPWD and reported the SMALL kill I observed and they knew nothing of it and had just completed a sampling and found NO toxicity in Whitney so I know they haven't even had a chance to come to Whitney to check again since I called them nor have they been down to do a report on a kill. Not calling you out just stating facts and want to see facts and not start rumors.Low water levels have kept a lot of folks away and we don't need anything else keeping tax dollars away from Whitney. A lot of business depend on Whitney Lake to draw in customers. Thanks.
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#7093974 - 01/25/12 09:04 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: mad mike]
ODT Offline
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Registered: 03/03/10
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Loc: Granbury Tex
With the Quality of fisherman that lake Granbury has ,give it a month or two and you will want to come down and give it a try we have fished throught the worst fish kills and all is good Ben is the Granbury King he is up with it !!!
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#7094312 - 01/25/12 10:26 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: HighTech Redneck]
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Hightech Redneck that's why I said I've been told......... Also said I don't know how true the figures are.......... I'm not trying to hurt anybodies business. I fish that lake as well. And enjoy fishing there. All I stated is what I was told by a friend that lived on Whitney. He's a avid tournament fisherman like most of us here are. I'm sorry you thought I was trying to trash Whitneys fishing. Because I'm not.

Thank you Dee. I try to give all the info I can. And try to be as honest as I can about posting it.

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#7094414 - 01/25/12 11:02 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Loc: Granbury Tex
Thumbs up great job !!! your the best buddy
Thanks for the info
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#7094430 - 01/25/12 11:08 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Loc: Granbury Tex
Call me my tours are starting up champs &the new Cabelas team trail .we need to fish ,your partner only elk hunts
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#7094540 - 01/25/12 11:49 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Lol. I know. That sorry dog.

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#7094558 - 01/26/12 12:03 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
ODT Offline
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Loc: Granbury Tex
dump him and get gooood partner lol
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#7094961 - 01/26/12 08:00 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
HighTech Redneck Offline
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Loc: Whitney Tx. USA
No harm no foul Bud. I didn't think you where trying to trash Whitney. It's just that sometimes rumers hurt us more than fish kills and golden algae does, you probably see that on Granbury as well. TPWD is supposed to come down this week and let us know what is going on, I know it was not lake wide, mainly on the brazos river 5 to 10 miles below the Granbury dam, and last weekend we had a small kill up in Steele creek and that was over Mon, the heavy influx of water has completely stopped that an any other threats. Thank God for the rain. When they do come and do samples I'll let you know. I get frustrated because we can't seem to get any federal money sent to the state level to do any research on Golden Algae. I asked the biologist what kind of research is going on and she said none, they don't have any money for research. Maybe we need to form a Brazos River organization and go after Washington to send TPWD and Biologists grant money to fight and research GA. Hope this rain saved your lake too.
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#7095235 - 01/26/12 09:24 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: HighTech Redneck]
Bud B Offline
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Registered: 01/09/10
Posts: 392
Loc: Crowley, Tx
Originally Posted By: HighTech Redneck
Maybe we need to form a Brazos River organization and go after Washington to send TPWD and Biologists grant money to fight and research GA. Hope this rain saved your lake too.


That's not a bad idea. According to stuff I've read lately, there's been more research than I had realized. But I don't see anything getting done to try and combat GA. Maybe we need to start something.
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#7098104 - 01/26/12 09:30 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
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Registered: 06/09/08
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Loc: Granbury , Texas
Let's do it

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#7099724 - 01/27/12 10:42 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
HighTech Redneck Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
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Loc: Whitney Tx. USA
Not meaning to highjack a thread but.... I and other guides have noticed on Whitney that when the G.A. hits there is a certain plant that grows along the shoreline and when it is flooded and the GA blooms the fish migrate to the areas with this plant. There is n bloom around these plants, no dead or dieing fish and we have been able to set a pattern around this. I have told bioligsts and others about it and maybe they should run a test or sample to see if this plant actually puts off something to combat the algae or if it delutes the salinty tenough to keep the algae from blooming in that area and basicly get blown off like a booger! They say it's probably just coincidince, you know it may be a coincidence but wouldn't it be awesome if God and mother nature created something as simple as a plant to combat Golden Algae? How much would it cost to get a sample of GA cells and a sample of this plant or the bean pods it produces and run a test under a microscope? I have been looking on-line trying to find it to be able identify it to biologists at Texas A & M.


Edited by HighTech Redneck (01/30/12 07:21 AM)
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#7105620 - 01/29/12 07:12 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: HighTech Redneck]
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Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 641
Loc: Burleson, TX
Originally Posted By: HighTech Redneck
Not meaning to highjack a thread but.... I and other guides have noticed on Whitney that when the G.A. hits there is a certain plant that grows along the shoreline and when it is flooded and the GA blooms the fish migrate to the areas with this plant. There is n bloom around these plants, no dead or dieing fish and we have been able to set a pattern around this. I have told bioligsts and others about it and maybe they should run a test or sample to see if this plant actually puts off something to combat the algae or if it delutes the salinty tenough to keep the algae from blooming in that area and basicly get blown off like a booger! They say it's probably just coincidince, you know it may be a coincidence but wouldn't it be awesome if God and mother nature created something as simple as a plant to combat Golden Algae? How much wuld it cost to get a sample of GA cells and a sample of this plant or the bean pods it produces and run a test under a microscope? I have been looking on-line trying to find it to be able identify it to biologists at Texas A & M.


That is called "antedotal" evidence by the officious folks. Per Merriam Webster this is: based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers

For some reason, officious folks seem to think that when anyone observing things other than them the result is "antedotal".... you should know that only elected officials are intelligent and can observe things.... that's why gov'ment is the way gov'ment is. My suggestion is don't wait for the gov'ment to save us... lets do what we can ourselves.... Lets take up a collection and give a grant to the folks at Texas A&M and see what they can come up with... let them report back to us directly.
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#7107422 - 01/29/12 06:54 PM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
wetduck Offline
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Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 224
Loc: grandview
I wil help if needed, like the idea of a save the brazos org. Pick a date and place and I will be there.

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#7108974 - 01/30/12 07:23 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: armadilla]
HighTech Redneck Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1821
Loc: Whitney Tx. USA
I know Tex A&M recieved a grant a few years ago along with Baylor and UTA, I have the contact info for A&M and will be in ontact with them soon. I will let you know what they say.
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#7109781 - 01/30/12 11:30 AM Re: Lake Granbury......... Things might of just got worse. [Re: fisherman_4life]
Bud B Offline
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Loc: Crowley, Tx
It would be great to see if anyone at A&M has specific ideas, and how much it would cost to try them.
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