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#6961688 - 12/20/11 06:46 PM
Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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#6962403 - 12/20/11 10:26 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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#6962436 - 12/20/11 10:39 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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wow $580K
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#6962488 - 12/20/11 11:09 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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6 machine guns? WOW!!! Wonder what those 900 horses feel like  Cool boat IMO. I do have some Questions though: If the US squashed the cartel, then how would those agencies justify their budgets? Don't, Border Patrol etc. etc. need the cartel to continue doing what they do for job security? 
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#6962621 - 12/21/11 01:39 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 1170
Loc: Weatherford, TX
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Why does the HIGHWAY PATROL need a boat? Cool boat though.
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#6962636 - 12/21/11 02:33 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Toxarch]
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 3822
Loc: Van Alstyne, TX
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Why does the HIGHWAY PATROL need a boat? Cool boat though. Because even though they are called the highway patrol they are in fact the State Police or officially the "Texas Dept of Public Safety".
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#6962759 - 12/21/11 06:32 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 08/11/09
Posts: 1225
Loc: Lewisville
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I guess the war on drugs has been a good business since the 70's. 40 years they have been at this. I wonder who is winning.
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#6963231 - 12/21/11 09:23 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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#6963353 - 12/21/11 09:53 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Fish ZoMbiE]
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1978
Loc: Selma, TX
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6 machine guns? WOW!!! Wonder what those 900 horses feel like  Cool boat IMO. I do have some Questions though: If the US squashed the cartel, then how would those agencies justify their budgets? Don't, Border Patrol etc. etc. need the cartel to continue doing what they do for job security? As long as people use illegal drugs there will be cartels and people supplying them and I don't think that will end anytime soon, lol.
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#6963595 - 12/21/11 10:55 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 1820
Loc: Flower Mound, tx
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With that trailer, they could tow this boat along the hundred of miles of desert border. Who needs water...
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#6964121 - 12/21/11 01:18 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 02/05/11
Posts: 224
Loc: San Antonio, TX
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Nothing is going to out run or out gun this thing. Awesome.
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#6964438 - 12/21/11 03:07 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Big Red 12]
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Loc: Arlington
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wow - just in time for christmas
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#6964564 - 12/21/11 03:53 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 12/11/11
Posts: 130
Loc: Brock-Texas
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Why waste taxpayers money. CBP is suppose to protect or borders. CBP has a specific division for exactly what Texas just spent 580,000.00 per boat for!!!! Its called the Office of Air and Marine. Here is a statement from their home page............. "The mission of the Office of Air and Marine (OAM), the world’s largest aviation and maritime law enforcement organization, is to protect the American people and Nation’s critical infrastructure through the coordinated use of integrated air and marine forces to detect, interdict and prevent acts of terrorism and the unlawful movement of people, illegal drugs and other contraband toward or across the borders of the United States.
This specialized law enforcement capability allows OAM to make significant contributions to the homeland security efforts of DHS, as well as to those of Federal, State, local, and tribal agencies. To accomplish this mission, OAM utilizes over 1200 Federal Agents, operating from 80 air and marine locations, with more than 290 aircraft of 22 different types, and more than 250 maritime vessels."
So why are we spending money as a state on these boats??? CAUSE OUR GOV CANT GET THEIR STUFF STRAIGHT!!!
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#6964690 - 12/21/11 04:29 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 05/26/09
Posts: 1746
Loc: Houston TX
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Wow..900 HP in 12 inches of agua!!!!!!
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#6965110 - 12/21/11 07:05 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Yakitup]
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 1820
Loc: Flower Mound, tx
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Why waste taxpayers money. CBP is suppose to protect or borders. CBP has a specific division for exactly what Texas just spent 580,000.00 per boat for!!!! Its called the Office of Air and Marine. Here is a statement from their home page............. "The mission of the Office of Air and Marine (OAM), the world’s largest aviation and maritime law enforcement organization, is to protect the American people and Nation’s critical infrastructure through the coordinated use of integrated air and marine forces to detect, interdict and prevent acts of terrorism and the unlawful movement of people, illegal drugs and other contraband toward or across the borders of the United States.
This specialized law enforcement capability allows OAM to make significant contributions to the homeland security efforts of DHS, as well as to those of Federal, State, local, and tribal agencies. To accomplish this mission, OAM utilizes over 1200 Federal Agents, operating from 80 air and marine locations, with more than 290 aircraft of 22 different types, and more than 250 maritime vessels."
So why are we spending money as a state on these boats??? CAUSE OUR GOV CANT GET THEIR STUFF STRAIGHT!!! Why dont you ask David Michael Hartley's wife? I dont fish Amistad but I'd feel more comfortable with them there if I did.
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#6965263 - 12/21/11 07:56 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 1820
Loc: Flower Mound, tx
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If there is a chance of pushing the narco's to their due, I say let the lead fly... never go in half prepared though.
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#6965305 - 12/21/11 08:13 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 53
Loc: Flint, TX
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We're finally doing something in Texas to get rid of those Cormorants in Texas.
Edited by JEB186 (12/21/11 08:13 PM)
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#6965448 - 12/21/11 08:53 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 4282
Loc: mesquite, tejas
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some people are always going to bitch
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#6965989 - 12/22/11 02:24 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Rev TCF]
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Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 1170
Loc: Weatherford, TX
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Why does the HIGHWAY PATROL need a boat? Cool boat though. Because even though they are called the highway patrol they are in fact the State Police or officially the "Texas Dept of Public Safety". I was being facetious. It's actually because every DPS law officer starts out as a highway patrolman before going to other departments. But they all always consider themselves as Highway Patrolman. That is why it says Highway Patrol on the side of all their law enforcement vehicles.
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#6966382 - 12/22/11 08:41 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 12/11/11
Posts: 130
Loc: Brock-Texas
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Why would I need to ask David Michael Hartley's wife about anything? What happened was heartbreaking. Has nothing to do with my post. I'm not sure this boat would have helped them on the mexican side of the border. My point is that Texas shouldnt have to waste more money if the gov already has bigger better boats but doesnt use them. I also agree with the comment "so people are always gonna bitch" the difference is that this person has spent the past 3 yrs working on the border watching your tax paying dollars get flushed down the toilet.
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#6969164 - 12/22/11 11:16 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Registered: 11/03/11
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Loc: souttheast texas
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 Where are the rod holders ??  just shoot the fish.
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#6969190 - 12/22/11 11:37 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Yakitup]
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Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 1170
Loc: Weatherford, TX
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Why would I need to ask David Michael Hartley's wife about anything? What happened was heartbreaking. Has nothing to do with my post. I'm not sure this boat would have helped them on the mexican side of the border. My point is that Texas shouldnt have to waste more money if the gov already has bigger better boats but doesnt use them. I also agree with the comment "so people are always gonna bitch" the difference is that this person has spent the past 3 yrs working on the border watching your tax paying dollars get flushed down the toilet. You just said the government doesn't use them. That is why Texas needs them, so Texas can use them and not have to bother with what the government does or doesn't do. I'd rather have too much law enforcement along the border than not enough.
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#6969538 - 12/23/11 08:08 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 06/07/01
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Obama just cut the National Guard in half. That means less man power on the boarder. Do any of you think the state will turn these guns loss on any one that is playing by the rules? I very serious don’t think so. It is an intimidation factor. The government, national and state is going to spend money. If not on this,then something else I don’t fish border lakes but if I did it would give me ease if I saw something like this that would come to my add if I needed it. Have you forgot about the LA bank robbers that had undergun L.A. police at there mercy  This sould never be allowed to happen ever. This is the same thing now on the boarder lakes and rivers. The Boarder Patrol is out gunned and out man. This will help level the playing field. It is easy for us to set in ower safe warm bed, what about the men and Women that risk there lives so that will happen. Some area of the boared help for LEO might be a long way getting there. I have no problem with the state getting these boats.  This is my .02 only
Edited by TGalyon1 (12/23/11 08:16 AM)
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#6971079 - 12/23/11 05:47 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Registered: 06/11/10
Posts: 119
Loc: eagle mountain lake - TX
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freakin awesome! makes me want to work for DPS
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#6973172 - 12/24/11 12:55 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: JoeTaylor]
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Registered: 04/21/06
Posts: 492
Loc: lake amistad
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any word on how many boats at falcon, does amistad get one maybe?
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#6974516 - 12/24/11 08:20 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 03/16/03
Posts: 2646
Loc: Talty, TX
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I'd love to ride in it!
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#6975372 - 12/25/11 09:34 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Yakitup]
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Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 1402
Loc: Zapata,/DFW Tx
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Why would I need to ask David Michael Hartley's wife about anything? What happened was heartbreaking. Has nothing to do with my post. I'm not sure this boat would have helped them on the mexican side of the border. My point is that Texas shouldnt have to waste more money if the gov already has bigger better boats but doesnt use them. I also agree with the comment "so people are always gonna bitch" the difference is that this person has spent the past 3 yrs working on the border watching your tax paying dollars get flushed down the toilet. Agreed! There is enough enforcement capabilities already. Having more tools are not gonna help without policy changes. They need greater power to intervein and Mexico permission to pursue on to there water and lands. Profile suspects without prejudice. While giving them more power doesnt set well with me. Its still my idea. And many may argue that the government has won because Im now willing to sacrafice my civil libertys because of fear. What would it be like if they were not here?? Or just make it all legal and deal with that. That will not work eather because the drug paths are no longer just drugs it's humans and so on. So all those operations will just increase. So what we do is throw money at what we have to work with and hope for the best. Bitching is the easiest thing to do. Without doubt. I dont undestand where the operating budgets come from on these deals. Were suppose to be broke but they keep reaching back in to the bottomless piggy bank. Im curious as to the daily fuel budget in just Zapata county from all government operations.
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#6976678 - 12/25/11 08:32 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: Tgutie]
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Registered: 12/18/09
Posts: 89
Loc: On the water, Somewhere
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As far as why Texas would have these capabilities when the feds have them already, it is nothing more than jurisdictional overlap- the same reason that right on your own street there are many agencies at all levels of government that can enforce the various laws. Imagine how many different types of cops can write you a ticket for speeding- Highway patrol, city police, sheriff, etc. etc.
Jurisdictional overlap allows authorities to ensure crime and protection don't fall between the cracks of bureaucracy, with various agencies saying, "it wasn't our problem".
I think questioning these purchases is a good thing. I also see what is happening in northern Mexico and I say it's better to have the capability and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Hopefully there is not large scale armed conflict coming to our borders, but some would say it's already here. 580k is a drop in the bucket compared to what's at stake.
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#6976773 - 12/25/11 09:12 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: trippbo]
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Registered: 12/11/11
Posts: 130
Loc: Brock-Texas
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I was at a border patrol station a couple months back and all the patrol suv were covered in dust. I asked the agent "damn! u guys ever drive these things" all jokingly. He went on to explain to me how they had been parked for months since they didnt have enough money in the budget for fuel but plenty for OIT and other things but for actually going out on the border they were limited until the next budget came out. He told me jokingly "thats obamas way of keeping us from doing our job". With my job I see this over and over again. Drives me nuts. I know bitching doesnt help....but makes u feel alittle relief for a few minutes!lol. Don't mess with Texas.
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#6976923 - 12/25/11 10:32 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Loc: Cedar creek lake/Arlington TX
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It only drafts 6inchs? dang thats crazy i want one to take out ski boats. they wouldnt catch me 
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#6977426 - 12/26/11 09:31 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Registered: 01/02/02
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Who's the boat manufacturer? I didn't see any decals on the boat. Boston Whaler? I know they've done a few gunships in their past, just curious.
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#6980768 - 12/27/11 02:10 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Registered: 04/19/11
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Loc: Burleson TX
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I here the are rerigging Battleship Texas to put on Falcon.
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#6983478 - 12/28/11 09:01 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 11/04/09
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Loc: Fort Worth, TX
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I am in full support of this. It is only a matter of time the violence spreads deeper into the country. The Drug cartels have no mercy for anyone including Americans!!!
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#6983519 - 12/28/11 09:14 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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there is no way that boat drafts 6 inch. , even if it was running wide open. its an offshore hull. and you have probably 3k lbs of motor and rigging on the far a$$ end.
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#6987597 - 12/29/11 09:52 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Loc: College Station, TX
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Gotta love mud tires on a boat trailer
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#6996217 - 12/31/11 05:36 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
[Re: TGalyon1]
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Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 235
Loc: Carrollton, TX
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Yeah its got power, but can ya fish from it?
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#7001842 - 01/02/12 05:08 AM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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#7046979 - 01/13/12 02:13 PM
Re: Texas has a a few Gun Boats
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Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 213
Loc: stamford,tx
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They are sweet!!! my brother graduates from DPS academy on the 19th of january and im glad they have a boat like this. Its good to know if he or another troopers need it they have it. i dont mind my tax dollars being spent on it.
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