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#5244167 - 08/27/10 08:31 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: Carver]
BobGlen Offline
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Registered: 02/17/10
Posts: 1608
Loc: Ind.
Originally Posted By: Carver
Would going to green emitting led's have any advantage?


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Answer

Using same wattage in comparison to different colors:

Any color White or Red will work "IF" light is bright enough

Green & Blue will penetrate the waters
better than white or red.

Blue will pentrated the waters upwards to 200-300 feet

As mentioned depending on wattage
Green is best for freshwater fishing
Blue is best for saltwater fishing

But many old timmers use either color



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Technical jargon

Light Spectrum.
Water selectively scatters and absorbs certain wavelengths of visible light. The long wavelengths of the light spectrum—red, yellow, and orange—can penetrate to approximately 15, 30, and 50 meters (49, 98, and 164 feet),

respectively, while the short wavelengths of the light spectrum—violet, blue and green—can penetrate further, to the lower limits of the euphotic zone. Blue penetrates the deepest, which is why deep, clear ocean water and some tropical water appear to be blue most of the time.

Moreover, clearer waters have fewer particles to affect the transmission of light, and scattering by the water itself controls color. Water in shallow coastal areas tends to contain a greater amount of particles that scatter or absorb light wavelengths differently, which is why sea water close to shore may appear more green or brown in color.

Read more: Light Transmission in the Ocean - river, sea, depth, oceans, percentage, important, plants, source, marine http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/La-Mi/Light-Transmission-in-the-Ocean.html#ixzz0xkHmirC4

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#5244235 - 08/27/10 08:50 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
Carver Offline
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Registered: 11/14/07
Posts: 1114
Loc: Garland, Tx
Thanks for the reply Bob,

I think I miss worded my question. Would going to light that did not have to be filtered to get the chosen color be any more efficient or is there much loss due to the filtering. I just did not know if there is much loss at all from the color filter.

I like the chart, it is really nice and easy to understand.

Filming and doing photography underwater for a four decades, I learned a long time ago that light loss (due to refraction not suspension) follows the same order (pattern) as the light spectrum order in a rainbow. ROY G. BIV; red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. (see I was awake that day in 8th grade science). But is hard to convey sometimes. the graphic is great.

Nice lights.

Phill

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#5244301 - 08/27/10 09:10 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: Carver]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
Originally Posted By: Carver
Thanks for the reply Bob,

I think I miss worded my question. Would going to light that did not have to be filtered to get the chosen color be any more efficient or is there much loss due to the filtering. I just did not know if there is much loss at all from the color filter.

Nice lights.
Phill



My humble opinion is a filter light to achieve a color
would have a loss as compared to to direct light. Example: green globe where light passes thru. Or direct green bulb.

But willing to bet that the human eye would not notice that much of a difference.

PS
Thanks for the compliments

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#5248445 - 08/28/10 01:51 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
14inchBass Offline
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Registered: 08/23/09
Posts: 95
Loc: Arlington, Texas
Hey Bob you have another order your way from me - this time a 100 LED in green.

For anyone on the fence about this light it's a solid unit. Every component is thicker/stronger than the goofy mass produced chinese products.

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#5248572 - 08/28/10 02:56 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: 14inchBass]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
Wow, thanks for the super nice compliment

Your order will be shipped Monday
Enjoy

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#5248759 - 08/28/10 04:36 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
wyofishers Offline
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Registered: 08/21/10
Posts: 21
Catching crappie at night is fun for sure. My best luck is on small glow spoons like the PK red dot glow. They work really well for crappie that are at just about any depth. My favorite sizes are the 1/4 and 3/8 oz ones. There seem to be a lot of good posts on this forum for sure. I got some good ideas to take with me to the water next weekend.

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#5335967 - 09/23/10 01:30 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: wyofishers]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
Why do minnows swim in a circle in the same direction by fishing light.

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#5344659 - 09/26/10 09:40 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
r63pappy Offline
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Loc: alvarado
AQUILLA LAST NIGHT,CAME HOME WITH 57 KEEPERS.CHEAP WAL-MART POLE & REEL.WET MINNOWS.,24 FT OF WATER FISHED 14 FT. DEEP. IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT.




ROD
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#5345521 - 09/26/10 02:43 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: r63pappy]
onestumptomany Online   content
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Registered: 08/15/08
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Originally Posted By: r63pappy
AQUILLA LAST NIGHT,CAME HOME WITH 57 KEEPERS.CHEAP WAL-MART POLE & REEL.WET MINNOWS.,24 FT OF WATER FISHED 14 FT. DEEP. IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT. ROD


Did you use green lites last night.

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#5347601 - 09/27/10 09:39 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: onestumptomany]
BobGlen Offline
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Registered: 02/17/10
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Loc: Ind.
Not for sure the answer from r63pappy
But willing to bet that the color he used was green.

That would have been my selection

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#5350421 - 09/27/10 11:29 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
the wizard Offline
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 61
Wow!!!! That's alot to take in....

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#5354495 - 09/29/10 08:05 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
r63pappy Offline
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Registered: 05/28/10
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Loc: alvarado
i just go to the lake and drop a minnow.no high tech, no jigs,
just catch,catch, catch !!!
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#5441560 - 10/23/10 08:21 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: r63pappy]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
Lites attract zoo plankton, in turn attract minnows.

The picture below was submitted by a customer (aka alslabber) using a Reel Lite
showing the minnows swimming in a circle.

Why do minnows (shad) swim in circles?

They swim in a circle because they are filter eaters. When they swim around the
light it keeps the plankton in one area and they swim through them with their
mouths open eating away. They are like Cowboys herding up cattle. On outdoor
shows on TV they show whales, and dolphins doing the same thing.



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#5598247 - 12/12/10 12:21 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
BobGlen Offline
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Registered: 02/17/10
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Loc: Ind.
January 2011 Moon Calendar


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#6210846 - 05/21/11 08:29 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
Get your light farther way from the boat
To get the light further from the boat by using a
"swimming pool noodle, or bobber" so the boat will not spook the fish.

For example: most bass fisherman that fish at night using top water lures use black lures, like a black Jitterbug....
the darker colors show up more to a fish looking up at the surface from below.

For this very reason I have always had a light colored boat with the exception of the G3 boat that I had...it was charcoal....
my new boat is platnum color and I have noticed that I can get in closer to bedding areas without spooking the fish as bad with the new boat.

I am not a expert by any means and do not claim to be one....
this is just what I have noticed and what I think.

David Shands





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#6219629 - 05/23/11 06:29 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
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Loc: copperas cove
Alright I will answer number 11 since no one else wants to give up their ice fishing secrets.

First on our home lake we had a ice house (grumpy old men style). These were nice because you took them out after enough ice and left them there all winter. Had a wood burning stove, a table to play eucher, 6 holes to jig through and a couple cases of coors light. We would go out there after school on friday and stay until sunday night. We used three tip-ups per person with a treble hook and a shiner....this caught walley and pike. we would jig fish in the house with wax worms and ice jigs for panfish and walleye. On lakes that were not our home lakes we would take the 4 wheeler or snowmobile along with our auger just go drill and try different spots. Thats all the depth I am going to go into, because most of you dont care about ice fishing...LOL



now on a serious note, what structure are you looking for at night? same as the day, fishing over brush piles or are you looking for creek channels?
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#6248238 - 05/31/11 06:15 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: PamN77]
BobGlen Offline
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Registered: 02/17/10
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Loc: Ind.
Night fishing vs day fishing!
Night time is usually quite, calm and not hot as opposed to daytime. Very few boats, skiers you name it. By night fishing one can fish after work, and leave the weekends for the family outings.


Seeking advantage
Fishermen seek advantages to catching fish for food. The game fish try to use to their advantage the elements to catch their food. By providing a light where plankton or shrimp can congregate, thereby attracting game fish. Scientific research has proven that the food chain eyes are sensitive to colors blue and green. The reason is fish have lived in blue to greenish waters for centuries.






Debate green vs white light
Many fishermen believe that green light is nothing but a way to market a new product. Universities around the globe has proven it is not a gimmick. Graph illustrates light penetration and light deflection that universities using satellites imaging to determine their findings.


Lights attract fish
Fishermen have know for long time that light tend to attract fish, shrimp and insects at night.
Green or blue light is the best choice but not necessary. Think of this way fish live in greenish to bluish waters, and it is better to present the color that they are accustomed to. If you have a light source that intense enough will work. Example: A white light will work because it is part of the blue and green color spectrum. The other side of the coin is that white will attract bugs, as opposed to green or blue lights. Despite the excellent brightness of above water lights a significant fraction of the light shining on the surface of the water is lost by deflection and thus will not be available to attract fish and their food chain.


Deflection, Penetration
Take a flashlight and at 45 degree shine the light on the water, you will see that the light rays
will bounce upwards into the trees. Very small amount of the light is absorb by the waters.
The same effect will happen underwater, the light will bounce from the underside of the waters
back down creating a mushroom effect.


Lanterns, headlights, fluorescent etc.
Many considerations and dangers need to be considered. Fums, battery draw, cost just to name a few. LED’s lights are becoming the most popular fishing light, for light penetration and cost effective to purchase per luminous. Led lights have a 50,000 (17 year) life expectancy, and are very rugged, with very little amp draw.

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#6314198 - 06/20/11 09:36 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
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Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 51
Loc: rockwall, texas
this is a great read
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#6320529 - 06/21/11 07:00 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: atexx2]
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Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 535
Loc: EAST TEXAS
I didn't read all of the posts but mosquito spray is good to have if you are going to crappie fish at night.

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#6371938 - 07/06/11 09:17 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: Spiderman]
texancoyote Offline
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Registered: 04/26/08
Posts: 486
Loc: Justin
Something I do when ever I bait fish is I take a snap and glo stick tie it to my weight, about a 2 ounces, and cast it out there long with my bait. This attracts fish to the bait and I haven't caught anyhting with it but I've only tried it once. If we take the boat out at night I have this same rig down along with all over our bait.
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#6376958 - 07/08/11 08:46 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: texancoyote]
BobGlen Offline
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Loc: Ind.
This is awesome thread
over 10,000 views and climbing

peep

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#6840370 - 11/13/11 10:17 AM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
Static Offline
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Registered: 10/26/11
Posts: 266
Loc: BS Texas
bump
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#6844227 - 11/14/11 02:35 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
r63pappy Offline
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Registered: 05/28/10
Posts: 1112
Loc: alvarado
just go !!
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#6844873 - 11/14/11 05:51 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
CrappiePoppie Offline
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Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 282
Loc: Wylie
To help all you folks understand what a walleye is, it is when you mount your prize crappie. One eye will be out and the other eye will be considered the wall....eye. smile

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#6903840 - 12/02/11 09:23 PM Re: Night Fishing Tips 101 [Re: BobGlen]
PlanoSooner Offline
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Registered: 04/07/11
Posts: 317
Loc: Plano, TX
bumping this......

I can get 5 meters(16 foot) of 5050(the bright ones) LED lights for under $20 shipped.

These are the waterproof ones.... You just glue them to the side of the boat.....

Low amp draw.... looks like a good deal and setup.

I understand from this thread that the reflection loses a lot of light.... But, heck, 16 foot of light running the entire length of the boat that I can turn on & off with a switch sounds like a winner to me.

I see that there is a guide on TFF that has a similar setup.... don't know what he paid for it.... I am sure it was more than $20 + glue for the same setup.

I kind of like the idea of having the ambient light there.... so I would think this is a decent setup. Maybe as good as those submersible $20 fluorescent.

I already bought a few 18" strips for the inside of the boat.... white lights.

recently took my 18" alumacraft down to the ribs and rebuilt it up with wood/carpet/ect. ...... just ran a few extra miles of wiring for little things like this. so the wiring is ready to go.
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