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#6902048 - 12/02/11 12:10 PM softener softens mono
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So would it not be safe to use it on say 30# mono then spool up a reel? or do you think it'll weaken the strength of the line. This obviously wouldnt benefit those on a boat, but for the bankers it would/should soften the line to get more casting distance right?

Just a thought
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#6902166 - 12/02/11 12:38 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I'm not sure what the chemical effect would be on the line itself, but it would seem by softening it, it removes some of the elasticity. Just like when you get a good pair of blue jeans. They get soft and broken in, but they're a lot easier to tear than a new pair of jeans would be.

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#6902224 - 12/02/11 12:57 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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makes sense... So do you think it shortens a castnets longevity?

just curious
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#6902242 - 12/02/11 01:05 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I would think it would probably weaken it a little bit. But, since cast nets aren't usually under the same stress as a single strand of monofilament line, it wouldn't be as big an issue unless you hung it on a stump or a rock.

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#6902287 - 12/02/11 01:19 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I have tried it and it makes the line spongy and when it wears off the line has twice the memory.Not a good idea!!!

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#6902340 - 12/02/11 01:35 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Lol, thank you sir
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#6903376 - 12/02/11 06:54 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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ok to do on a new cast net to give more elasticity.

solid no-no on your fishing line. it breaks down and weakens the line.
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#6903387 - 12/02/11 06:58 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I saw a tip on youtube to soak your spool of mono in bucket of HOT water for 10-15 minutes before spooling.......I started doing this and it really helps....less line memory and tighter more uniform wraps when spooling up a reel........

I do it when spooling braid also.....gets good tight wraps on spool....
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#6903430 - 12/02/11 07:15 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Thanks lakeless, guess it has more severity since you used the infamous "no-no" =) only need to be told in that tone ONCE! lol

Dcm, thinkI might try it, just trying to find a way to loosen up my 30€ offshore angler line! Its great, just doesn't cast as far as my rods with ande ..... I know Ande is better but i like the hi vis, and want to stay with the 30#mainline
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#6903466 - 12/02/11 07:24 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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it helps for spooling up a reel but I don't think theres much u can do to help for casting 'cept change line.....Ande has hi viz....... Y I went to braid (no hi viz braid tho) - I use spinning reels tho - braid casts better and has zero line memory......
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#6903471 - 12/02/11 07:25 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: *Mr. Fabulous*]
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Originally Posted By: *D.C.M.*
it helps for spooling up a reel but I don't think theres much u can do to help for casting 'cept change line.....Ande has hi viz....... Y I went to braid - I use spinning reels tho - braid casts better and has zero line memory......


The downside to that, though, is that good braid is really pricey. I looked at it vs. mono, and decided that I'm gonna stick with the mono. I can't afford braid.

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#6903479 - 12/02/11 07:29 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: CatfishAddiction]
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Originally Posted By: CatfishAddiction
The downside to that, though, is that good braid is really pricey. I looked at it vs. mono, and decided that I'm gonna stick with the mono. I can't afford braid.

+1

@DCM....Does BPS carry it because I know Academy's doesnt. If they do I must be blind!
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#6903482 - 12/02/11 07:30 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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btw, i only own one 5500cl3 and its on a 12$ yellow academy rod.....the rest are all surf rods with spinning reels
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#6903491 - 12/02/11 07:33 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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@ Catfish Addiction- thats y I got the Cajun Red braid (now pink) on sale at Cabelas - 300 yds for $9.99 when I got it

@Chess BPS has the bright green but if want the yellow u may have to order online........
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#6903497 - 12/02/11 07:35 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: CatfishAddiction]
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Originally Posted By: CatfishAddiction
Originally Posted By: *D.C.M.*
it helps for spooling up a reel but I don't think theres much u can do to help for casting 'cept change line.....Ande has hi viz....... Y I went to braid - I use spinning reels tho - braid casts better and has zero line memory......


The downside to that, though, is that good braid is really pricey. I looked at it vs. mono, and decided that I'm gonna stick with the mono. I can't afford braid.



I have had braid on alot of my reels for over 2 yrs. and it's still has alot of life left. Try doing that with mono. Only time I use mono is when I'm drifting,sucks when you get hung up and have to cut all that braid off. I used to use mono all the time and decided to try braid a couple yrs. ago and love it. No memory,I like the way it casts,and you get good hooksets because it has no stretch.I like power pro,I know it costs alot more than mono,but it lasts ten times longer.

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#6903518 - 12/02/11 07:40 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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CatfishConnection has hi viz yellow Ande in 1 lb spool

BottomDwellers has another brand in Hi Viz Yellow
http://bottomdwellerstackle.com/hi_seas.htm
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#6903539 - 12/02/11 07:45 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Anyone ever tried the Hi-Seas line?


and it says to send 3$ to get a catalog for catfishconn....
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#6903544 - 12/02/11 07:47 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Catfish CVonnection has oline catalog/website u can order off......

http://catalog.catfishconnection.com/

They have some decent braid prices too
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#6903564 - 12/02/11 07:53 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Thank you INTERNET GURU, now only if your fishing was this good! flehanrolfmao thumb

But seriously thanks for the info
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#6903568 - 12/02/11 07:53 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Originally Posted By: Chess101
Anyone ever tried the Hi-Seas line?


and it says to send 3$ to get a catalog for catfishconn....


I use the Hi Seas line from Bottom Dwellers alot. I bought a 1 pound spool of the fluorescent yellow 25lb. test about a year ago. I use it when I'm drifting and on my channel cat rigs. I have no problems with.

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#6903571 - 12/02/11 07:54 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Originally Posted By: Chess101
Thank you INTERNET GURU, now only if your fishing was this good! flehanrolfmao thumb

But seriously thanks for the info

I need to come fish with you on your secret Lavon spots.... thumb
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#6903582 - 12/02/11 07:59 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Jared Nic]
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Originally Posted By: Jared Nic
Originally Posted By: Chess101
Anyone ever tried the Hi-Seas line?


and it says to send 3$ to get a catalog for catfishconn....


I use the Hi Seas line from Bottom Dwellers alot. I bought a 1 pound spool of the fluorescent yellow 25lb. test about a year ago. I use it when I'm drifting and on my channel cat rigs. I have no problems with.


Is it good on distance casting?

Dont get me wrong never had the offshore angler fail me, its just alil stiffer than the ande and causes a slight difference in casting distance. I have all my rods spooled with offshore now, so im not bashing the line, just looking for something alittle smoother.
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#6903590 - 12/02/11 08:01 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: *Mr. Fabulous*]
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Originally Posted By: Chess101
Thank you INTERNET GURU, now only if your fishing was this good! flehanrolfmao thumb

But seriously thanks for the info

I need to come fish with you on your secret Lavon spots.... thumb


anytime thumb
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#6903591 - 12/02/11 08:01 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I tried offshore angler last year cuz of price but never liked it- too much memeory and harder to tie compared to Big Game and Ande......
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#6903607 - 12/02/11 08:08 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I've never tried the BIG GAME, was tempted today, I almost got a spool at academys....but put it back lol

just read a couple of reveiws on the hi-sea line and it sounds good. Compared it to the suffix
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#6903627 - 12/02/11 08:16 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I got a cpl reels with bright Green Ande and cpl with bright green Big Game and can't tell which is which........

try that Hi Seas and report back to us....plus their weight/hook prices are good and u can try some Kat Juice....they have FAST shipping.....
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#6903772 - 12/02/11 09:03 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I found that the 25lb off shore angler has way better memory and casting ability. I tried the 30 and didn't like it.
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#6904098 - 12/02/11 11:07 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I've never used the Offshore angler but I've had great success with the Cabela's Saltstriker line in 30#. It's just as good as the suffix that I have on half my reels. Casts really good too.


If you want a big spool of hi vis braid I got mine at Fishermans Factory Outlet. FFO.COM

Been thinking about trying some of this..... LINE.

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#6904169 - 12/03/11 06:31 AM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Chess, as far as monos go, Big game is a great old proven standby for a lot of fishermen. Sure it has some memory and doesn't cast with the finesse of some other higher priced lines, but it is stouter than the devil and you can depend on it not to fail you. The clearance price at Academy on the stuff is killer. I bought 3 rolls even though I use Powerpro on most of my reels these days.

Another good mono is P-line CXX. VERY-VERY strong stuff, good price.
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#6904249 - 12/03/11 07:55 AM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Really, as mono goes, for the money, BPS Offshore Angler line is pretty good stuff. I've had it on a couple of my reels for quite a while. It's strong, doesn't fade, and has zero memory. It's quite a bit cheaper than Ande and other stuff.

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#6904357 - 12/03/11 08:54 AM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Jared Nic]
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I have had braid on alot of my reels for over 2 yrs. and it's still has alot of life left. Try doing that with mono. Only time I use mono is when I'm drifting,sucks when you get hung up and have to cut all that braid off. I used to use mono all the time and decided to try braid a couple yrs. ago and love it. No memory,I like the way it casts,and you get good hooksets because it has no stretch.I like power pro,I know it costs alot more than mono,but it lasts ten times longer. [/quote]

Well I've been using braided for a year now and my choice was Power Pro. Also I only have one rod with braided and that is the rod I can get out the furthest with no memory line. I hate to put all my eggs in one basket but all my reels will have it as soon as I get the cash.
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#6904823 - 12/03/11 12:39 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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BPS OS is plenty strong, its just a bit too stiff.....maybe i'll just try the 25# instead of the 30 that i have now......

I know, first hand experience, that the ande is STRONG and cast really SMOOTH...only thing is bps and academys doesnt stock them in hi vis yellow...and i've never really ordered online(yet).

Only reason I'd change BPS OS is if I can find something smoother and just as strong, if not stronger. Might be ordering the hi vis ande (still deciding) lol
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#6904882 - 12/03/11 01:05 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Use Real Magic.

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#6905321 - 12/03/11 03:46 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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I am curious about the real magic--
How does it help, or what does it help?
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#6905415 - 12/03/11 04:29 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Real magic softens fishing line, makes it more limp and castable, reduces line memory. Works on braid and monofilament. Also has UV inhibitors in it.

It is an amazing product.

I use it on my fishing line, wipe my reels down with it also.

Best use though is cleaning electronics wipe your fish finder down with it every month or so and it will stay looking like new forever. Clean the screen with it and it will stay crystal clear and water will bead right up.

Talked about it some in this podcast. Give it a listen!

http://www.learntocatchcatfish.com/catfishing-radio-episode-18

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#6905425 - 12/03/11 04:35 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Thanks Chad!
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#6905551 - 12/03/11 05:34 PM Re: softener softens mono [Re: Chess101]
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Good info! thumb
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