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#6835727 - 11/11/11 04:10 PM Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels
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Couldn't find a thread on someone testing the casting distance on both types of reels to see if there are any differences. I was always curious myself but have heard of mixed results. So i decided to do a few tests.

Test 1:
- Spinning rod 7'8 med action paired with Shimano Stratic3000 / 20pnd tuffline braid
- Casting rod 7'8 med fast action paired with Daiwa zillion TypeR / 20pnd jerry brown braid.

- Both setups have a 2ft 20pnd mono leader.
- Both setups tied with 3/4 oz jighead rigged with 7inch plastic fluke


Results:
- For the spinning setup, I was getting an avg of 100 feet give or take a few.

- For the casting setup, I was getting an avg of 130 feet give or take.

Also, during the casting tests... there was 10-13 mile an hour gust wind so factor that in.

I believe if i bumpup the lure weight closer to 1oz, the baitcaster will increase more than the spinning. But that will have to wait until next time.

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#6836519 - 11/11/11 09:17 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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I have not met anyone yet that could casts as far as I do using a spinning setup yet LOL.
3/4 oz jighead? only 130 Feet are you sure that was not yards?

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#6836535 - 11/11/11 09:24 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Denton Pond Jumper]
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Originally Posted By: Brad Vaughn
I have not met anyone yet that could casts as far as I do using a spinning setup yet LOL.
3/4 oz jighead? only 130 Feet are you sure that was not yards?


Brad, it was roughly 130 feet. not yards. It was pretty windy so i did lose some distance. But 130 yards? with 3/4 and a 7inch fluke? thats more than a football field. I'm going to try casting at football field next time to see.

But yes i do agree that spinning can't cast as far.... atleast with 3/4oz.


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/11/11 09:31 PM)

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#6836576 - 11/11/11 09:40 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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the rod has a LOT to do with casting distance
plus the fact that you using a $200 reel vs a $400 reel
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#6836603 - 11/11/11 09:48 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: turbo2nr]
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Originally Posted By: turbo2nr
the rod has a LOT to do with casting distance
plus the fact that you using a $200 reel vs a $400 reel


Yea agreed. Both rods have very similar action and lure weigh rating.

As for the reels, i can put on a Stella 3k and it will be the same. Line goes out the same for spinning whereas the baitcast has alot to do with the spool bearing and brakes.

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#6836635 - 11/11/11 10:00 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Yep I don't think that the price of the reel will make or brake when it comes to casting. My last real cost me maybe $40 I should point out that the type of line will make a big difference to as all of you know. When I went to braid I found casting improved for me.

As to the 130 yards I have done it but I think that 50 to 75 yards are a avg at 3/4 oz cast for me.
Now let me ask this I have found that a closed faced real can and will out cast a spinning real now whats with that? lets not forget the action of the pole in this to

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#6836658 - 11/11/11 10:07 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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130 yards? with the a good heavy wind behind your back... than maybe. otherwise i don't believe it until i see it. Not on a 7'8 rod with 3/4oz. But i could be wrong...

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#6836735 - 11/11/11 10:46 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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There is a reason why surf casters use Spinning outfits.DISTANCE
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#6837141 - 11/12/11 08:14 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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As soon as you have enough weight to pull line off of the reel, the casting reel will outcast the spinning reel because it throws the line off of the spool most of the distance. On ANY other type of reel, the weight must pull every inch of line off of the spool. I've seen distance casting competition put on by Stren where guys used custom 12-13' rods and very large diameter casting reels to cast over 700' using pendulum techniques. It was very impressive.

The Zillion is not a real factor. Ask anyone that does any reel tuning, and they will tell you that a Curado 200B will cast about as far as any low profile baitcaster with a little tuning because of the diameter and width of the spool.
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#6837204 - 11/12/11 08:50 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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yeah most carp guys fish at an average distance of 100 yards but can cast further than that.
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#6837213 - 11/12/11 08:58 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Casting Reel!! My 525 will throw a Football field not even trying. Even on a 7'8" Rod.

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#6837221 - 11/12/11 09:02 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Wilson,

You are using two different types of braid...different brands have different weaves and this can affect friction and therefore distance as well.

Also the guides on the spinning rod are larger and farther apart causing a larger loop in the line when it spins of the spool which IMO this creates more drag and reduces distance... a way to reduce this is to add more and narrower guides. The guides on a baitcaster facilitate distance with braided lines bc they are small, there are more of them, and the line is not "looping" of the reel
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#6837612 - 11/12/11 11:47 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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well, casted far enough from the bank to get these fools today. it was windy! but casted with pretty good distance on the zillion against the wind.







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#6837627 - 11/12/11 11:51 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: TheRodFather]
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Originally Posted By: TheRodFather
Wilson,

You are using two different types of braid...different brands have different weaves and this can affect friction and therefore distance as well.

Also the guides on the spinning rod are larger and farther apart causing a larger loop in the line when it spins of the spool which IMO this creates more drag and reduces distance... a way to reduce this is to add more and narrower guides. The guides on a baitcaster facilitate distance with braided lines bc they are small, there are more of them, and the line is not "looping" of the reel


Yep agreed. Less friction when the line goes thru the casting guides.

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#6837628 - 11/12/11 11:52 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Magged Out]
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Originally Posted By: Magged Out
Casting Reel!! My 525 will throw a Football field not even trying. Even on a 7'8" Rod.


with a 3/4 oz lure and 7'8 rod? ya right!


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/12/11 11:59 AM)

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#6837635 - 11/12/11 11:54 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Joepoolfisher]
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Originally Posted By: Joepoolfisher
yeah most carp guys fish at an average distance of 100 yards but can cast further than that.


Not talking about long 9-13 ft carp rods. I was generally speaking in terms of 7-8ft rods. i can cast using a carp rod over a football field with spinning as well.


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/12/11 11:59 AM)

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#6839860 - 11/13/11 04:50 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy
Originally Posted By: Magged Out
Casting Reel!! My 525 will throw a Football field not even trying. Even on a 7'8" Rod.


with a 3/4 oz lure and 7'8 rod? ya right!

The ? was spinning VS casting!! Never said 3/4 oz lure!!

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#6840177 - 11/13/11 09:01 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Ok well hmmm yes looks like you casting worked for you on them fish LOL Cool
but well why the Red on the photos?
Is it a joke?
Now take that in a nice way

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#6840535 - 11/13/11 11:14 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Magged Out]
Wilson Biddy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Magged Out
Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy
Originally Posted By: Magged Out
Casting Reel!! My 525 will throw a Football field not even trying. Even on a 7'8" Rod.


with a 3/4 oz lure and 7'8 rod? ya right!

The ? was spinning VS casting!! Never said 3/4 oz lure!!


well chit... didnt the original post stated 3/4. lol


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/13/11 11:15 AM)

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#6840749 - 11/13/11 12:39 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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rolfmao With 3/4oz Could'nt even induce the eddy current on this bad mofo. Will try it on a 7'6" E-Cat and let you know thumb

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#6846904 - 11/15/11 09:37 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Went to cast a 1oz on my setup and almost got spooled on my zillion yesterday. 20pnd braid.


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/15/11 09:37 AM)

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#6847400 - 11/15/11 12:02 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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With one one of my 12' heavy carp rods, I can easily punch a 4oz lead over 100 yards.
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#6847534 - 11/15/11 12:52 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: themilkman]
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Originally Posted By: themilkman
With one one of my 12' heavy carp rods, I can easily punch a 4oz lead over 100 yards.


i can do that with a 1oz 7'8 ft rod.

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#6847707 - 11/15/11 01:44 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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had a friend cast a pole thirty yards. pole and reel and all. oops
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#6847720 - 11/15/11 01:51 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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I once had my hat snatched off my head and cast 30 feet with a saltwater chug bug..one more inch and I would have had an interesting head ornament.
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#6849011 - 11/15/11 08:08 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy
Originally Posted By: themilkman
With one one of my 12' heavy carp rods, I can easily punch a 4oz lead over 100 yards.


i can do that with a 1oz 7'8 ft rod.


I will attest, he ain't lyin. well maybe about the spooling part, but it was easy over 100y. over & over, so it wasn't a fluke.
the fluke is Wilson knowing how to use a baitcaster.......JK brotha!!!!!

oh, and w/ my 10.5' carp, er Striper/surf rod I typically am throwing 120-14oy on every cast with 1.5-3oz. not the same as a bass rod on 1oz.
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#6849325 - 11/15/11 09:02 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: lite-liner]
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Originally Posted By: lite-liner
Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy
Originally Posted By: themilkman
With one one of my 12' heavy carp rods, I can easily punch a 4oz lead over 100 yards.


i can do that with a 1oz 7'8 ft rod.


I will attest, he ain't lyin. well maybe about the spooling part, but it was easy over 100y. over & over, so it wasn't a fluke.
the fluke is Wilson knowing how to use a baitcaster.......JK brotha!!!!!

oh, and w/ my 10.5' carp, er Striper/surf rod I typically am throwing 120-14oy on every cast with 1.5-3oz. not the same as a bass rod on 1oz.


i saw the metal on my spool....

anyway, lets hit up SSSSSSSsssssssllll AREA-52b sunday morning

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#6850369 - 11/16/11 08:16 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Never really thought about it...but 100 yards is a long azz way to be able to cast...How far across is Denison Dam? I would think 100 yards would get ya from TX parkinglot to OK parkinglot but I dunno.
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#6854106 - 11/17/11 11:13 AM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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LOL any updates on the casting..u need to get out and fish instead of doing these reports

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#6854558 - 11/17/11 01:27 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: betterbet24]
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Post all reports for u? No thanks. Go back to your creeks.

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#6855615 - 11/17/11 07:04 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: TheRodFather]
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Originally Posted By: TheRodFather
Never really thought about it...but 100 yards is a long azz way to be able to cast...How far across is Denison Dam? I would think 100 yards would get ya from TX parkinglot to OK parkinglot but I dunno.


looks like about 150y from OK to TX side during normal generation @ the cable
the 10.5 Rapier & 2oz on PE-5 samurai is good for 2/3 of that all day long.
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#6855764 - 11/17/11 07:42 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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#6855798 - 11/17/11 07:48 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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I want to see it for myself.
Lets take it on the football field. Cast from 1 yard line and see who can throw the distance.

Bring your best gears.
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#6855805 - 11/17/11 07:49 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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I want to see it for myself.
Lets take it on the football field. Cast from 1 yard line and see who can throw the distance.

Bring your best gears.


i'm not doing it without money involved.

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#6855807 - 11/17/11 07:50 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Test it with 1, 2, 3, 4, and whatever weights you FOOOS want.
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#6855816 - 11/17/11 07:51 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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Originally Posted By: KrazyFish
Test it with 1, 2, 3, 4, and whatever weights you FOOOS want.


what length rod

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#6855836 - 11/17/11 07:55 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Do it with:
7'.6" to 15' (if it still exist)

Bait cast -VS- Spinning
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#6855840 - 11/17/11 07:56 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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Originally Posted By: KrazyFish
Do it with:
7'.6" to 15' (if it still exist)

Bait cast -VS- Spinning


ok. my 7'8 /baitcast vs your 9ft spinning.


Edited by Wilson Biddy (11/17/11 07:57 PM)

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#6855850 - 11/17/11 07:57 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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I don't own a 9'
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#6855854 - 11/17/11 07:58 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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Originally Posted By: KrazyFish
I don't own a 9'


i have one u can use.

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#6855858 - 11/17/11 07:59 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy
Originally Posted By: KrazyFish
I don't own a 9'


i have one u can use.


rolfmao
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#6855859 - 11/17/11 07:59 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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When u coming back fooos
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#6855866 - 11/17/11 08:00 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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I'm flying back sat and be back sat evenening.

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#6855871 - 11/17/11 08:01 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Sunday morning, my pond again?
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#6855881 - 11/17/11 08:03 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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Originally Posted By: KrazyFish
Sunday morning, my pond again?


no. we do it at football field. i'm gonnna make a field goal

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#6855887 - 11/17/11 08:04 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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Afternoon dude after a bowl of pho dac biet
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#6855888 - 11/17/11 08:05 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: KrazyFish]
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Afternoon dude after a bowl of pho dac biet


ok lol

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#6856005 - 11/17/11 08:27 PM Re: Casting distance on spinning vs casting reels [Re: Wilson Biddy]
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i find it easier to use a spin cast when using light tackle, if im going for distance with a little weight, i prefer a bait cast. If distance is your thing, spin cast reels create a lot of line drag when it is peeled off the spool and slaps the rod repeatedly
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