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#6841375 - 11/13/11 03:51 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Oldtrackster Offline
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Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 337
Loc: Blackwell, TX
Look forward to seeing the selected date.
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#6842119 - 11/13/11 07:57 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
elkinmt Offline
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Registered: 02/16/05
Posts: 14
Loc: montana
What port/town do you guys leave from?

What depth do you normaly fish?

Fish oil rigs? rough bottom?

Can we bring live bait? can I bring a Big cooler for bait?

I fish for grouper the most.So snapper would be fine.

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#6842125 - 11/13/11 07:58 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Margarita Mojo Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: Corinth Texas
I am in too. Prefer snapper also.

Joe
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#6843268 - 11/14/11 08:49 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: elkinmt]
TX Grizzly Offline
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 1686
Loc: The Colony, Texas
Originally Posted By: elkinmt
What port/town do you guys leave from?
Depends on the boat but we are going to shoot for the Scat Cat and that leaves out of Port Aranasas

What depth do you normally fish?
Depends on where we go but we stay on the shelf

Fish oil rigs? rough bottom?
Both

Can we bring live bait? can I bring a Big cooler for bait?
we usually do a piggy perch catch the night before and they have a live well on the boat that they fill with live bait, we also make bait on the way out

I fish for grouper the most.So snapper would be fine.
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#6843278 - 11/14/11 08:53 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Oldtrackster]
TX Grizzly Offline
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Loc: The Colony, Texas
Originally Posted By: Oldtrackster
Look forward to seeing the selected date.
we will have to wait for an exact date till the Red Snapper and AJ seasons are posted...once those dates are established then we can start working on the date...Cheers ^_^
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#6844243 - 11/14/11 02:40 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
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Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 224
Loc: grandview
i am in for 2 places

might need some advice on tackle and such as am a rank newbie to this

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#6847041 - 11/15/11 10:14 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Dubya Offline
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Registered: 06/14/10
Posts: 12
Wakeman and Izzo in. I like the sound of late June - mid July and Snapper.

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#6847255 - 11/15/11 11:17 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Shacknasty Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 38
Loc: 9 7 2
Carter and Shack are in.
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#6847295 - 11/15/11 11:28 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Shacknasty Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 38
Loc: 9 7 2
Can we keep them alive this time. What was with the live well, everything died last time.
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#6847374 - 11/15/11 11:53 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Shacknasty]
TX Grizzly Offline
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Loc: The Colony, Texas
Originally Posted By: Shacknasty
Can we keep them alive this time. What was with the live well, everything died last time.
people put a couple predator fish in the live well and they went off on the piggies...
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#6847381 - 11/15/11 11:56 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
chuck_w Offline
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Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 76
Loc: DFW
I have an opinion on the live well question. Porckchop said that mixing the different species was what killed some of the bait fish in the live well but I have another theory. Some of the fish were deep hooked and were injured while removing the hook from their stomache and gills. That is what I believe killed some of the bait fish in the live well. I spent most of the trip fishing from the back of the boat and there were plenty of piggies that survived. I was even finding them alive late on the second day but several people gave up on fishing them out of the live well. We were also catching lots of large snapper on the piggies and some decided to fish for larger baitfish like barjacks in order to target larger fish like amberjack. On Diez Tuna we caught a good number of piggies for the live well and they survived the entire 56 hours.

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#6847550 - 11/15/11 12:56 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
trlrman Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 1098
Loc: wford / t-wok
chuck there was no ribbon fish ect in the tank on diez or trout only pinfish also sunscreen on folks hands is bad on the bait. i think more care was taken on the bait on diez IMO
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#6847570 - 11/15/11 01:00 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Joe_S Offline
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Registered: 05/11/11
Posts: 3
Loc: Frisco, Tx
I sent an email back to all in the group, but will state on here also... count me in for one if we can go after snapper. As for the live well, many of the piggy perch did seem to survive, as well as a couple of bar jacks that were used the following morning. Not sure what exactly killed the fish that did die, but the water definitely changed color.

Joe

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#6848022 - 11/15/11 03:36 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Shacknasty]
Shacknasty Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 38
Loc: 9 7 2
Originally Posted By: Shacknasty
Carter and Shack are in.


Either fish would be OK with me.
Some vermilion snapper would be nice too.

The meals last time were great, so Im on board with the group meals again.


Few things I learned last trip.

*learn when to sleep on this trip
*bring a towel and soap
*lots of lead and hooks are on the bottom of the ocean now
*many big red snappers died on the top of the water
*drink the lemonade to stay cool and hydrated
*king fish like 15 dollar jigs
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#6848038 - 11/15/11 03:41 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
chuck_w Offline
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Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 76
Loc: DFW
I don't remember ribbonfish in the live well for the deep drop but I can't imagine a sand trout would kill a piggie? I do remember when the water changed color..it was after we started adding chubs. Nasty fish! I think you guys will have no problems keeping piggies alive for this trip. I would like to go with you all but will be fishing in Alaska in July. Can't really do both in such short order. Then again...never say never...

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#6848995 - 11/15/11 08:07 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Oldtrackster Offline
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Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 337
Loc: Blackwell, TX
I do not believe ribbons will survive in the live well. The scat cat has a freezer under the stairs that the Captain let us put ribbons in as we caught them.
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#6850013 - 11/15/11 11:58 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
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Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Rowlett, TX
I'm in for 1. Prefer red snapper but AJ will work. Group meal is great
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#6850857 - 11/16/11 11:20 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
TOO Offline
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Registered: 06/06/02
Posts: 2412
Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Folks, it might be necessary to consider doing the TxG3D charter in 2012 during the week instead of a weekend. That may be the only option to schedule a 36 hour charter on the Scat Cat during red snapper season.
We suggest that folks post up whether or not they can do a week day 36 hour charter. It may be a moot point, but we don’t like dropping surprises on people, so we want everyone to be aware of this possible option.
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#6850945 - 11/16/11 11:48 AM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
TX Grizzly Offline
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 1686
Loc: The Colony, Texas
Willie,
what days during the week would the boat be able to do? like leaving Thursday morning and coming back Friday afternoon or leaving Wednesday morning and coming back Thursday afternoon?
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#6850983 - 11/16/11 12:02 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
TOO Offline
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Posts: 2412
Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Originally Posted By: TX Grizzly
Willie,
what days during the week would the boat be able to do? like leaving Thursday morning and coming back Friday afternoon or leaving Wednesday morning and coming back Thursday afternoon?


TxG, just don’t know at this point. Generally Tuesdays and Wednesdays have the least number of people wanting to fish a head boat when snapper season is open. Most head boats are full every day of the week during the summer
Again this may be the only possible plan of action when snapper season is open, or it may not be an issue at all.
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#6851230 - 11/16/11 01:11 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Oldtrackster]
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Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
Originally Posted By: Oldtrackster
I do not believe ribbons will survive in the live well. The scat cat has a freezer under the stairs that the Captain let us put ribbons in as we caught them.

they last about an hour, then turn to mush.... they need to be put on ice immediately so their flesh stays hard. deckhands told me this a few years ago.
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#6851261 - 11/16/11 01:19 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: TX Grizzly]
Oldtrackster Offline
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Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 337
Loc: Blackwell, TX
I am at best a maybe until I know dates, but weekend or weekday will make no difference.
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#6851516 - 11/16/11 02:41 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Oldtrackster]
tunatamer Offline
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Registered: 06/10/10
Posts: 236
Loc: El Rancho Jones
It wouldn't make any difference to me whether it is a weekday or weekend.

But Willie, I don't see the issue. I don't see why they wouldn't do a charter on the weekend during Red Snapper season. DSH does charters on the weekend without regard to what the season is. Their rates are higher on weekends than weekdays. I know DSH has three boats and they have two but I'd almost be willing to bet that they will still do a charter on the weekend.

I would think that a phone call would find out.
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#6851524 - 11/16/11 02:43 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: Oldtrackster]
TOO Offline
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Registered: 06/06/02
Posts: 2412
Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Originally Posted By: Oldtrackster
I am at best a maybe until I know dates, but weekend or weekday will make no difference.


Oldster, our focus is assuming the worst case scenario of an even shorter red snapper season in 2012. We’ve proposed a June set of dates and two sets of July dates. F.W. will respond to our proposal, and we will submit it to TxGrizz for his approval or rejection. Until we get a handle on which time frame of a seven day week might/will work, we can’t propose a specific set of dates to TxGrizz.
Hopefully there will be a set proposed date by the end of this week.
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#6851549 - 11/16/11 02:50 PM Re: 2nd annual TX Grizz Deep Drop Derby (TxG3D'12) [Re: tunatamer]
TOO Offline
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Registered: 06/06/02
Posts: 2412
Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Originally Posted By: tunatamer
It wouldn't make any difference to me whether it is a weekday or weekend.

But Willie, I don't see the issue. I don't see why they wouldn't do a charter on the weekend during Red Snapper season. DSH does charters on the weekend without regard to what the season is. Their rates are higher on weekends than weekdays. I know DSH has three boats and they have two but I'd almost be willing to bet that they will still do a charter on the weekend.

I would think that a phone call would find out.



TT, phone calls have already been made. As we posted above, F.W. will respond to our proposal, we will submit it to TxGriz, and we will go from there. Again, by Friday we should have a solid answer regarding the Scat Cat.
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