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#6825568 - 11/08/11 11:31 PM
Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Registered: 10/15/11
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Going to College Station for thanksgiving to see my cousin and his family. (They literally live like 1/2 mile away from TAMU campus) And my cousin and I are looking for places to fish. We were thinking of the Brazos River, Bryan Lake, Gibbons Creek Reservoir, or one of the various ponds like George Bush Library, Gabbords, etc. Anybody fished any one of these places and if so I would really appreciate tips and the such!
I have never caught any kind of rough fish (carp, gar, buffalo etc) I would love to know any information about any of those fish, what rigs to use, what baits they like (or don't) how to handle them, what to watch out for etc. Just anything you can throw at me I'd love to hear.
-Riot
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#6826191 - 11/09/11 07:57 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Corn is always a good bait for small venues. Just get a few cans of Del Monte Sweetcorn- throw some in the water, and some on your hook. I like to thread a few kernels up the like above the hook.
If you go to a spot where people feed ducks, fish with bread wadded up on the hook(leave the point exposed). If you see fish hitting the floating bread, don't wad the bread as much- Let it float.
Good Luck!
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#6826408 - 11/09/11 08:57 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Also, you should use small single hooks. These fish are strong, so you should use strong hooks.
Good luck!
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#6826409 - 11/09/11 08:57 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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and by small, I mean like number 6 (not 6-0)
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#6826443 - 11/09/11 09:08 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Registered: 10/15/11
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Ok! Thank you guys for your help!
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#6826480 - 11/09/11 09:21 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Registered: 10/15/11
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So single hooks are stronger than treble? Do you guys have a reliable brand you could reccomend me?
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#6826684 - 11/09/11 10:19 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Registered: 05/04/10
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Loc: Austin, TX
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Usually don't use treble hooks when carp/buff fishing because if they get all 3 hooks and break off, then their mouth is tied shut. I use plain old eagle claw #6 baitholder hooks.
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#6826768 - 11/09/11 10:46 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Registered: 07/01/04
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I was a slow convert to single hooks. Shoot- I used to use paylaker rigs with two treble hooks coming off of a triple swivel.
I switched for 3 reasons: 1- I was able to find stronger single hooks. I kept breaking/bending trebles. 2- I was starting to fish tournaments that only allowed single hooks. 3- The biggest reason I made the switch was because I started taking Catch & Release more seriously. I was catching and tagging fish at Joe Pool before a kids event and I saw that my treble hooks were tearing the fish up because all the points would get hooked in the fleshy part of the mouth. I started thinking- Man, I want the kid who catches this fish to appreciate it and see it in good condition. So I started thinking about all my catches and how I want every fish I catch to be in "Like New" condition for the next lucky angler.
So for pond fishing I use small hooks- 8s or 10s. 6s are good all purpose hooks, and if I'm targeting the big boys or tournament fishing, I usually use 4s or 2s.
For you, I would suggest looking at the TPWD website and look for Carp Records on water bodies around where you will be staying. Take my previous advice if you go to a pond. If you choose a lake or river, use size 4 or 6 hooks. I would suggest using dough bait if you don't want to start with Hair Rigs yet. Carp Anglers Group has a couple of articles that will help you- One is Catching Carp on gear you already have- That's in the beginning Carping Section; and the other is my doughbait post in the Bait Section. If I can get to a computer, I will get you the links. Also, There is a Getting Started thread pinned in this section that has helped alot of guys get going.
Again, Good Luck!
Chad
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#6826945 - 11/09/11 11:39 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Registered: 10/27/10
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big gun mustad hooks So single hooks are stronger than treble? Do you guys have a reliable brand you could reccomend me?
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#6826965 - 11/09/11 11:45 AM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Registered: 10/15/11
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Jshaw and badchade thanks for the advice on the hooks. And badchade that was super helpful information, I'm starting to get an understanding about this kind of fishing (I believe) and there is no better place to start then knowing the right equipment to use! Please post the links here if you have the time, if not, you have already done enough good sir!
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#6827387 - 11/09/11 01:26 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Mustad Ultra Point hooks (size 4) are great and can be bought at Academy.
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#6827658 - 11/09/11 02:41 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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Ok fisherwood I'll be sure to check it out!
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#6827782 - 11/09/11 03:10 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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I like Chad also started out using trebles with dough bait. One other reason not to use them that he didn't mention is that you get a much more solid and deep hook penetration with a single hook than with a treble with all three hooks preventing each other from going deep.
I know this sounds like anti-treble propaganda but in my experience it's absolutely true. When using trebles I had a lot of issues with hook pulls, but once I made the switch my lost fish ratio went from like 20-30% down to maybe 5-10%. I can't tell you how many times I've seen hair rigs (single hook) completely bury themselves up to the eye in a carp's lip. You might think this would be bad for the fish but single hooks, even deeply buried ones, can be removed with almost no damage done if removed carefully. And they're definitely a heck of a lot easier than trying to remove a treble with 2 or 3 hooks stuck in.
Good luck!
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#6828997 - 11/09/11 07:57 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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You might learn a little more if you have the chance to get out with someone before Turkey Day weekend.We have no problem teaching anglers about carp fishing.So with that said,do you have time this weekend to learn a few things?
Edited by Texas Carper (11/09/11 07:58 PM)
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#6829169 - 11/09/11 08:40 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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You might learn a little more if you have the chance to get out with someone before Turkey Day weekend.We have no problem teaching anglers about carp fishing.So with that said,do you have time this weekend to learn a few things? +1
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#6829236 - 11/09/11 08:53 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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I was a slow convert to single hooks. Shoot- I used to use paylaker rigs with two treble hooks coming off of a triple swivel.
Chad i've always heard that was a no no...not trying to stir anything up or anything like that, ive always been told the double treble rig is a no no. Is it illegal or is it just frowned upon? Just curious.
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#6829379 - 11/09/11 09:19 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
[Re: Whiteriot12]
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By that, what do you mean? I may have time this weekend, but are there any places for carp in the dallas/richardson texas area?
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#6829398 - 11/09/11 09:22 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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In Texas it is legal, but frowned upon by many.
I also first learned to carp the non-euro way. Dough baits and trebles. Even though I do think it can be effective, I believe the hair rig and use of method is better.
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#6829437 - 11/09/11 09:29 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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By that, what do you mean? I may have time this weekend, but are there any places for carp in the dallas/richardson texas area? Yes yes yes. We do not have the largest fish, but we do have plenty of nice swims. I think you can find carp in most of our ponds and all of lakes.
Edited by dturnerfish (11/09/11 09:30 PM)
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#6829471 - 11/09/11 09:38 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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In Texas it is legal, but frowned upon by many.
I also first learned to carp the non-euro way. Dough baits and trebles. Even though I do think it can be effective, I believe the hair rig and use of method is better.
ok thanks, i never knew. I've met a few people years ago that were using it and told me not to say anything to anyone about it though.
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#6829495 - 11/09/11 09:41 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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I live by caampbell and coit road, any places not too far away that has carp?
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#6829525 - 11/09/11 09:48 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Twin lakes has both carp and koi
White Rock Creek has Carp, Buffalo, and some other sucker species
Breckenridge has a good population of carp and a few koi
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#6829529 - 11/09/11 09:50 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Ha, yes. 3 blocks from you. Twin lakes. A twin lakes fish 
Edited by dturnerfish (11/09/11 09:58 PM)
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#6829568 - 11/09/11 09:58 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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I have fished the north lake at twin lakes for past few months and have seen no carp, are you sure they are in there? And which pond at breckenridge, there are 3 I believe... And white rock creek flows forever! Hahaha, any particular place that you know of that is a good fishing spot for carp? I have found several points of WRC that I'd like to try but just not seeing any information about it kind of made me hesitate.
Thank you guys for helping me out.
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#6829606 - 11/09/11 10:07 PM
Re: Going fishing in thanksgiving...would love some advice!!!
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Fish the south pond at twin lakes. It sometimes takes a few trips to catch at smaller waters, and your numbers are going to be lower, but the reward can be great.
You might want to consider White Rock Lake.
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