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#6795723 - 11/01/11 12:34 AM JAILED!!!
Leverage Offline
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Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 186
Loc: dallas,tx
Just got a friend of mine out of jail for having his handgun on him while bank fishing. I'm no lawyer and don't have all of the details, but seems like common sense to have some type of weapon (preferably gun) while walking the bank...especially when you're way back in the brush walking creeks. You just don't know what the heck you might run into... I thought I saw something on this forum about carrying a gun in your boat. Guess something differs when walking the bank. Does it matter if its a handgun or long gun? Any lawyer types or know-it-alls out there that can elaborate?
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#6795725 - 11/01/11 12:38 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
65lbpowerpro Offline
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Registered: 10/29/11
Posts: 44
i always carry a shotgun with me in the boat and have been checked by many game wardens and they always said it was fine.

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#6795758 - 11/01/11 01:37 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
*Mr. Fabulous* Offline
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Registered: 04/18/10
Posts: 6847
Loc: Burleson, Tx.
How'd they know he had a gun? was it a cop or warden?
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#6795812 - 11/01/11 04:29 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
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Registered: 07/12/10
Posts: 1226
Loc: East of the Rockies
Is he licensed to carry?

A CHL should make him okay.
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#6795928 - 11/01/11 06:00 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
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Registered: 06/12/03
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Loc: Texas
I believe if you are going to be walking around on public lands with a handgun, you have to have a CHL and have the weapon concealed. Boats and cars are a different matter.
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#6796098 - 11/01/11 07:32 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: HasBen]
FishR2099 Online   content
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Registered: 02/28/11
Posts: 881
Loc: Mansfield
Originally Posted By: HasBen
I believe if you are going to be walking around on public lands with a handgun, you have to have a CHL and have the weapon concealed. Boats and cars are a different matter.

^^^This^^^

Texas needs open carry
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#6796141 - 11/01/11 07:52 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
Dominoman Online   content
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Registered: 10/30/08
Posts: 473
Loc: Dale, Texas
Straight from Chapter 46, Texas Penal Code.

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:

(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or

(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
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#6796159 - 11/01/11 07:59 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
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was he on corps land, that could make a big difference?
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#6796176 - 11/01/11 08:08 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
kingfish_1970 Offline
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Registered: 06/17/06
Posts: 2344
Loc: copperas cove,tx
I'm a cop and I don't carry on corp land. It says no guns permitted when you go through their gates. However, had it been me, I would have run his name and if all checked out,I would have sent him on his way with a warning. I appreciate good guys having weapons. They may have to help me out of a jam one day.

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#6796213 - 11/01/11 08:22 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
RBO Offline
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Registered: 09/07/01
Posts: 278
Loc: Newton, TX USA
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.

And...

Why should I pay for the privilege of exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights?

"The 2nd Amendment of our Bill of Rights IS my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD ! " flehan



I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks


Edited by RBO (11/01/11 08:34 AM)
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#6796227 - 11/01/11 08:27 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: kingfish_1970]
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 4546
Loc: little elm tx
Originally Posted By: kingfish_1970
, I would have run his name and if all checked out,I would have sent him on his way with a warning.


I think most of us count on solid logical thinking like that, but it doesn't always happen.
I think we need more information before making any kind of pointless, sideline judgement call, though. grin
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#6796255 - 11/01/11 08:35 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: RBO]
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Registered: 02/10/04
Posts: 9202
Loc: Longview
Originally Posted By: RBO
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.


I feel the same way. I wish I had never gotten mine!
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#6796300 - 11/01/11 08:47 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
stuck in ftworth Offline
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Registered: 09/10/11
Posts: 566
Loc: tx
stir Hey kingfish just because someone doesn`t have a chl and wants to carry for self protection doesn`t make oneself a bad person and should be jailed if you`re ck`d out and not a felon should be left alone ,if u were in trouble and I was ur your only help would you be asking if I had a chl no..you would be tickled that i was carrying and maybe saved ur life...just saying...Bill slinger

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#6796318 - 11/01/11 08:52 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: RBO]
TonyH. Offline
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Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 934
Loc: South
Originally Posted By: RBO
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.

And...

Why should I pay for the privilege of exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights?

"The 2nd Amendment of our Bill of Rights IS my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD ! " flehan



I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks

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We agree - I carried for years in Texas totally legally before CHL, now since ILLEGAL LAWS WERE ACCEPTED BY GUN OWNERS, I am forced to carry a riot gun, heck nine shots of 00 gets in the air faster anyway bang

I exercise my SECOND AMMENDMENT right and refuse to get CHL.

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#6796449 - 11/01/11 09:25 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: kingfish_1970]
Paparon Offline
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Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 1364
Loc: Rowlett, TX
Originally Posted By: kingfish_1970
I'm a cop and I don't carry on corp land. It says no guns permitted when you go through their gates. However, had it been me, I would have run his name and if all checked out,I would have sent him on his way with a warning. I appreciate good guys having weapons. They may have to help me out of a jam one day.

I don't carry a gun but you are now my new HERO!!!

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#6796451 - 11/01/11 09:26 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: FishR2099]
nax Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Posts: 2979
Loc: Lake Palestine
Originally Posted By: FishR2099
Originally Posted By: HasBen
I believe if you are going to be walking around on public lands with a handgun, you have to have a CHL and have the weapon concealed. Boats and cars are a different matter.

^^^This^^^

Texas needs open carry


+1! Growing up in Idaho, I remember dad and I going to convenient stores/restaurants both before and after our day of hunting/shooting with our sidearms openly visible on our hip... and nobody even gave it a second thought. And that wasn't in the "good old days" either; it was 10 years ago.

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#6796499 - 11/01/11 09:39 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: TonyH.]
TxJole Offline
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Registered: 02/17/09
Posts: 1508
Loc: Cedar Creek all weekend
Originally Posted By: TonyH.
Originally Posted By: RBO
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.

And...

Why should I pay for the privilege of exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights?

"The 2nd Amendment of our Bill of Rights IS my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD ! " flehan



I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks

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We agree - I carried for years in Texas totally legally before CHL, now since ILLEGAL LAWS WERE ACCEPTED BY GUN OWNERS, I am forced to carry a riot gun, heck nine shots of 00 gets in the air faster anyway bang

I exercise my SECOND AMMENDMENT right and refuse to get CHL.
The only reason to carry a pistol is to buy you time to get to your shotgun.
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#6796864 - 11/01/11 11:27 AM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
817-Fireman Offline
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Registered: 03/20/11
Posts: 450
Loc: West of the mississippi
In TX. if you don't have a CHL you're not lawfully allowed to carry a handgun on your person unless it's being transported, like from a vehicle to a home etc. then you're covered under the Castle law, there's no grey area there. I'm not a fan of the CHL and I'd prefer to see open carry like a few of the other states have. The rest fell into the officer's discretion and whatever happened between him and your buddy.
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#6796983 - 11/01/11 12:01 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: RBO]
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Registered: 06/11/05
Posts: 3148
Loc: Ray Roberts
Originally Posted By: RBO
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.

And...

Why should I pay for the privilege of exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights?

"The 2nd Amendment of our Bill of Rights IS my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD ! " flehan



I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks


You should really take a look at the laws again.

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#6796984 - 11/01/11 12:01 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
blooper961 Offline
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Registered: 12/04/09
Posts: 1539
In the good old days all Texas pickups had a gun rack with guns in the back.If you did that now everyone in a hundred miles would come to steal them.

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#6797099 - 11/01/11 12:29 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Leverage]
backlash2059 Offline
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Registered: 02/23/11
Posts: 727
Loc: Tolar, Texas
House Bill 1815 as passed by the 80th Legislature allows for the carry of a concealed handgun on your premises or premises under your control (a vehicle and/or an RV included). There are several benefits to having a Texas Concealed Handgun License: You can legally carry a loaded, concealed handgun on your person and in other states which honor a Texas CHL. You no longer have to undergo an F.B.I. background check to purchase a firearm. You have the legal ability to defend yourself and other innocent people from the violent acts of criminals.

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#6797115 - 11/01/11 12:37 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: RBO]
whnigt Online   content
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Registered: 04/01/04
Posts: 721
Loc: Troy, Tx.
Originally Posted By: RBO
CHL = Trojan Horse.

Where will authorities look first for guns if they ever have a reason to come looking ? .....CHL Holders.

And...

Why should I pay for the privilege of exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights?

"The 2nd Amendment of our Bill of Rights IS my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD ! " flehan



I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks



What law stopes a CHL carrier from going across county lines. Pleas explain I'm confussed on this.

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#6797194 - 11/01/11 12:58 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: backlash2059]
TonyH. Offline
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Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 934
Loc: South
You have the legal ability to defend yourself and other innocent people from the violent acts of criminals.

I have that ability all along not ceded to government sanction, and an illegitimate constitutional state and federal opinion --




We come from different times in Texas - BEFORE CHL I legally could carry a pistol in plain sight on the seat of my vehicle traveling on business from one county to the next, I could carry it in a holster from my vehicle , home or property to use in hunting or target shooting even somewhere else.

CHL is just one more step by government on LAW ABIDING CITIZENS to REMOVE your CONSTITUTIONAL right to own or carry as you see fit

For all those of you who roll over and play the State and Feds game just to carry a handgun - SHAME IS ON YOU

Regulation - we have been led like sheep to slaughter - and with about as much backbone

My apologies to the LEO's who have to enforce unjust and unpopular law - it is what it is - and I will do what I deem necessary to resist goobermint intrusion to my right to keep and bear arms !!!

Resist peacefully. willing to pay court costs as well to uphold our constitution !!!


Edited by TonyH. (11/01/11 01:24 PM)

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#6797398 - 11/01/11 01:44 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: RBO]
Fishin' Nut Online   content
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 3328
Loc: Oak Point, Tx
Originally Posted By: RBO

I cross 2-4 county lines almost every day on my way to work. Until CHL it was legal for me to do this to protect what I have worked hard to obtain. Now with CHL, I can no longer do this legally. Please explain the logic.

Must go now...Black helicopters circling my house. eeks


There is no law that prevents CHL holders from crossing county lines. Previously, non CHL holders were held to the "travelling" rule before they were allowed to conceal carry in their vehicles. Most jurisdictions considered travelling to be the crossing of a county line.

As to your Second Admendment argument, all admendments to the Constitution contain certain restrictions. You cannot write a letter to the President threatening him with bodily harm and claim it is your First Admendment right.
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#6797742 - 11/01/11 03:01 PM Re: JAILED!!! [Re: Fishin' Nut]
TonyH. Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 934
Loc: South
Willie sang it best " he wore his gun outside his vest for all the HONEST world to see "

A well regulated militia? NO an over regulated citizenry !!!

I feel perfectly safe with or without a weapon, but carry when I know there may be a possible dangerous encounter

Carrying ANY firearm anywhere is our right - however wrong our lawmakers may be

I would like to hear the rest of this story about WHY this person was jailed -

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