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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: cccwww] #6733825 10/14/11 02:13 PM
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is it a V6? 5 or 6 speeds on the auto tranny? finally these engineers are getting it right and helping to get us fuel economy without sacrificing HP and torque!


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yes twin turbo


Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: cccwww] #6734352 10/14/11 05:09 PM
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i have a 4x4 with 3000 miles on it. I averaged 19.6 mpg from New Orleans back to Arlington yesterday. It has a lot of power. 15-20 mpg is what the sticker said.

I also had a dodge with the Cummins in it. I liked that but this truck drives much better and the Dodge transmission sucks! I got 17mpg in the Dodge. It was a beast though in 4wd.


Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #6734382 10/14/11 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: RonnieManning
is it a V6? 5 or 6 speeds on the auto tranny? finally these engineers are getting it right and helping to get us fuel economy without sacrificing HP and torque!


The engineers are going to have to giddy up & go. I am curious as to what happens in 2015 - 2016. I hope we do not go back to the early 80s. I was not going to buy a new truck for about 4 more years but may have to with the new MPG standards that are headed our way.



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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #6735713 10/15/11 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: RonnieManning
is it a V6? 5 or 6 speeds on the auto tranny? finally these engineers are getting it right and helping to get us fuel economy without sacrificing HP and torque!


V6 6 speed with a twin turbo...gets max torque at 2500 rpms instead of 4 or 5k like some other motors.



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Also mine has the 355 rear end.

Another thing I have noticed it seems like everything on the ford sits up a little higher than my dodge and it is a little harder to see the trailer when backing without the boat on it.

The microsoft sync in these new vehicles is really nice with the iphone.



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I could be wrong but the twin turbo design and v6 reminds me to a degree of a small diesel v-6 International was building called the vt275, maxxforce5 or 4.5L depending on year of build and what vehicle it was in. Anyone really know alot of the workings? Are the twin turbos a low pressure and high pressure design with one feeding into the other to allow turbo boost at all rpms?



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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: cccwww] #6761556 10/22/11 11:42 PM
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I am fairly certain I will get one the end of the year if the rebates are right...




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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: cccwww] #6772320 10/25/11 11:40 PM
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Here is the torque curve on 4 of the popular models...





Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: txwhitetail] #6774056 10/26/11 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lake Ivie Guide JR Howard
I like the concept and could see a lot of motors going this way. I thought I heard somewhere Ford was going to make or is making a 4cyl ecoboost for suv and smaller pickup types. Don't hold me to that just what I heard.


Yes they do make a 4 cylinder Ecoboost. Its available in the Ford Explorer and the Ford Edge. I know because we have been looking at getting one of the new Explorers. The 2.0L Ecoboost puts out 240hp and 270 Torque. The only problem with it in the Explorer is that if you go with the 2.0L Ecoboost you are limited to the front wheel drive transmission only.

If you want the 4wd model you have to go with the 3.5L V6 (non-ecoboost). I wouldnt want to have to even tow a 2,000 lb load with a front wheel drive vehicle. So we will probably go for the 4WD model and the 3.5L V6 non-ecoboost motor.



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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: CWCW] #6774079 10/26/11 02:31 PM
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Im also not really sure why they have not pushed this technology earlier. I really think the 2.0L and 3.5L ecoboosts are just the start of a whole new future of motors.
Its not like its really all that new of technology.

Diesel motor makers realized along time ago what kind of new power advances that could produce when they added a turbo to diesel motors.

Not really sure why ford came out with the 6.2L V8 for the Superduty trucks. A turbo charged V8 might be too much power for a 1/2 ton truck but surely a 5.0L V8 Ecoboost would out perform the 6.2L in a superduty.



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Re: ecoboost f150 [Re: CWCW] #6774823 10/26/11 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lake Ivie Guide JR Howard
I like the concept and could see a lot of motors going this way. I thought I heard somewhere Ford was going to make or is making a 4cyl ecoboost for suv and smaller pickup types. Don't hold me to that just what I heard.


Yes they do make a 4 cylinder Ecoboost. Its available in the Ford Explorer and the Ford Edge. I know because we have been looking at getting one of the new Explorers. The 2.0L Ecoboost puts out 240hp and 270 Torque. The only problem with it in the Explorer is that if you go with the 2.0L Ecoboost you are limited to the front wheel drive transmission only.

If you want the 4wd model you have to go with the 3.5L V6 (non-ecoboost). I wouldnt want to have to even tow a 2,000 lb load with a front wheel drive vehicle. So we will probably go for the 4WD model and the 3.5L V6 non-ecoboost motor.


Ford has just about taken towing out of the equation with Explorers anyway with IRS. Look at all the new ones on the road with hitches and you will notice they are Class 1. I have a 2004 Sport Trac that my son now drives and it is a decent little truck. It has a 2" hitch and solid rear axle. I would never buy a new one though.



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Originally Posted By: Stump jumper

Ford has just about taken towing out of the equation with Explorers anyway with IRS. Look at all the new ones on the road with hitches and you will notice they are Class 1. I have a 2004 Sport Trac that my son now drives and it is a decent little truck. It has a 2" hitch and solid rear axle. I would never buy a new one though.


Yeah i get what you are saying but i have seen quite a few with Class 2 hitches though. Especially the one i looked at in the automobile building at the state fair in dallas two weekends ago. I think the ones with the class 1 hitches are the base models that come with front wheel drive. The upgrade 4WD models have a towing package with a Class 2 hitch and a 5000 lb towing capacity.

I dont like the IRS either but all midsize SUV's are going that way. Hell, even the Ford Expeditions rear suspension looks different than the F150's. The Tahoes still have the same rear suspension as the Silverados though i think.

We would be just getting it to pull my boat every once in a while to the lake because we are looking to get a RV to pull behind my truck and we will need her to pull my light 16ft alumium bass boat to the lake 45 min down the road. That way i dont have to make two trips to the lake and back to take the RV and then go to get the boat.



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Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
I have a 2004 Sport Trac that my son now drives and it is a decent little truck. It has a 2" hitch and solid rear axle. I would never buy a new one though.


My regular old 2004 Exolorer with a 4.0 V6 has a TON of miles on it pulling my heavy 18' Ranger and it gets great mileage and pulls the hell out of it!




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Ford has just about taken towing out of the equation with Explorers anyway with IRS. Look at all the new ones on the road with hitches and you will notice they are Class 1. I have a 2004 Sport Trac that my son now drives and it is a decent little truck. It has a 2" hitch and solid rear axle. I would never buy a new one though.


Yeah i get what you are saying but i have seen quite a few with Class 2 hitches though. Especially the one i looked at in the automobile building at the state fair in dallas two weekends ago. I think the ones with the class 1 hitches are the base models that come with front wheel drive. The upgrade 4WD models have a towing package with a Class 2 hitch and a 5000 lb towing capacity.

I dont like the IRS either but all midsize SUV's are going that way. Hell, even the Ford Expeditions rear suspension looks different than the F150's. The Tahoes still have the same rear suspension as the Silverados though i think.

We would be just getting it to pull my boat every once in a while to the lake because we are looking to get a RV to pull behind my truck and we will need her to pull my light 16ft alumium bass boat to the lake 45 min down the road. That way i dont have to make two trips to the lake and back to take the RV and then go to get the boat.


Since Fords are now off my list I have not looked closely at them. I was thinking they might have a beefed up suspension with a heavier tow pkg.. WIth a 16' aluminum boat the lighter suspension would not be a concern.



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