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#6685052 - 09/29/11 06:46 PM Knot for flourocarbon to braid
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Even though I use 6lb for cranking which is incredible thin I'm still was always concerned about the fish seeing my line. My buddy tried to get me to try the double uni to add a leader but I didn’t have great success with the knot.....it broke when i pulled it. I’ve been in florida fishing snook and redfish and had to put a leader on my power pro line. I’ve been tying the surgeons knot 20lb power pro with 20 lbs seaguar red label fluorocarbon with incredible results. Never broke. i i was doing some hard hooksets when fishing the fluke! Getting ready to head back to NC and my bass fishing and try this knot out. I’ve been looking at modified Albright and the double Albright knot as well. I want a knot that’s strong but also be able to run through my guides. When I was fishing the snook and redfish my leader was usually no more than 18”-24” and the knot never went through my guides because I swivel cast so much. But now I’m thinking of 2’-3’ foot leader for my cranking. So I want to know what you guys use (knot wise) and also what your preferred fluorocarbon is for a leader?
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#6685240 - 09/29/11 08:02 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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i've been crappie fishing with 20 braid and 6lb flouro. uni/uni is fairly easy and fairly strong but i recently switched to the albright. i've lost more jigs and less leaders with the albright. the uni knot seemed to be less predictable. of course when i break off it's because i'm hung in brush. sometimes the hook straightens sometimes the line breaks. i've landed blue cat up to 20lbs with no problems. i cant help you on the casting question. i'm only jigging.

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#6688537 - 09/30/11 07:48 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: Parker]
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Shawn - I've started to tie an Albright as my leader knot. I'll still tie a uni to ui cuz I'm quik at it, but the albright I thin is a smoother, cleaner knot for leaders that are especially thin! When you tie an albt, as you twist up te leader, as you come bac down, take care to lace it(criss-cross) IMPORTANT: rabbit went down the hole, so he gotta come back up same way!(at the end loop)
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#7435610 - 04/19/12 10:07 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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The albright is definately a stronger, slimmer knot. But you HAVE to make sure that you wrap the coils tightly and clinch evenly or the knot will fail.

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#7450744 - 04/24/12 07:52 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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I use braid and fluoro every time I fish, and I've found that some combinations like the blood knot, and some like the Uni knot. If I tie a blood knot twice and it breaks when I cinch it down, I tie a Uni knot and it always seems to work. I generally want to tie a blood knot if possible because it is tapered and casts better. I've been looking at the Bristol, because it is strong, but I haven't made the switch because it is more time consuming to tie.
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#7450791 - 04/24/12 08:04 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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#7452115 - 04/24/12 01:04 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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Actually, I have read several knot tests in the last few years in the sportfishing mags (saltwater), and some form of the Bristol has won all but one (modified Albright won that one). When you consider the the amount of time required to tie an Albright well, it's not worth the effort.

I have a couple of rigs that are tied with a Bristol/Bimini Twist combination, but they were tied in my living room, with reading glasses on, and plenty of light under ideal conditions. I'm probably (k)not doing it in the field.
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#7455504 - 04/25/12 08:14 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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Modified Albright and Bristol consume too much time and you have to have good eye and good lights.
I can do Uni knot with my eyes closed and it works fine for me.

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#7465208 - 04/27/12 09:42 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
Mike Andrews Offline
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Alberto / Modified Albright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J56O3CZVu7M&feature=player_embedded

I've used it for over two years tying 10# Fireline to 8# Seaguar InvisX, crappie fishing brush piles and I haven't broken a line to leader knot yet....

Not that hard to tie with a little practice, the video is the best instruction I've seen.
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#7465583 - 04/27/12 11:34 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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#7470171 - 04/29/12 12:01 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: Mike Andrews]
Jean Scurtu Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mike Andrews
Alberto / Modified Albright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J56O3CZVu7M&feature=player_embedded I've used it for over two years tying 10# Fireline to 8# Seaguar InvisX, crappie fishing brush piles and I haven't broken a line to leader knot yet.... Not that hard to tie with a little practice, the video is the best instruction I've seen.


I agree!!
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#7482994 - 05/02/12 11:38 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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Yep, that looks like a great alternative. And Knot Wars has it beating the Uni-Uni knot by about 20% or so. It's not too dificult to be used in the boat, too, although I'll still need reading glasses. Dang!!!
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#7494492 - 05/05/12 03:50 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
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OK. I'm using the Alberto knot now. I tied on a leader this morning sitting in my inflatable pontoon, no glasses, 30# to 15# Invizx. I've pretty much retied all of my leaders with it.

Thanks for the heads up, Mike.
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#7509609 - 05/09/12 02:12 PM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: Bass Art]
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Loc: Pflugerville, TX
Originally Posted By: Bass Art
OK. I'm using the Alberto knot now. I tied on a leader this morning sitting in my inflatable pontoon, no glasses, 30# to 15# Invizx. I've pretty much retied all of my leaders with it.

Thanks for the heads up, Mike.


Been using it for over 2 years. I have made several posts. Knot knocking the uni to uni, but this one wins hands down.

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...ro_#Post7484229
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#7512296 - 05/10/12 06:45 AM Re: Knot for flourocarbon to braid [Re: CrankBait1007]
Mike Andrews Offline
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Registered: 04/12/05
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The inevitable happened to me last weekend....toss enough crappie jigs into brush piles and you'll eventually tie into something you can't deal with mad

I pitched a jig into a brush pile in about 8' of water, watched the line fall and when it "slacked out" picked up. WHAM something big and mean took off. I fought whatever it was for a few minutes until it took off under the boat and I couldn't hold it.....let's just say it's a good thing Dobyns has a good warranty program cry

The only reason I relate this is that even though I broke a DX701 and lost the Loch Ness monster the Alberto Knot joining my line to leader held. Broke a rod, broke 8# fluoro, but the line to leader knot held. 'Nuff said??
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