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#5402555 - 10/12/10 04:11 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Thanks for the insight...I need to go pull some cats out of a pond at my uncle's property and figured I'd rather use the guts to fertilize my garden, rather than feed them to the hogs...thumb
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#5403419 - 10/12/10 07:24 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: curvytxfish]
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OK going to try the spanking, just have tons o bees and thought it was being taken care of, but no tomato's would sure mean ya'll are right and I shouldn't assume ...ha ha....well I am going to try this and I will let you kow how it goes...Thanks for helping


I now have around 5 dozen green tomatoes, far and away more than at any time in the past two years. Sucks to think my plants are over 6 months old and aside from a few tomatoes I got in May, these are all I have, but I'll take what I can get. I have to learn to time it better for a good spring harvest with them.
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#5403426 - 10/12/10 07:26 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: curvytxfish
OK going to try the spanking, just have tons o bees and thought it was being taken care of, but no tomato's would sure mean ya'll are right and I shouldn't assume ...ha ha....well I am going to try this and I will let you kow how it goes...Thanks for helping


I now have around 5 dozen green tomatoes, far and away more than at any time in the past two years. Sucks to think my plants are over 6 months old and aside from a few tomatoes I got in May, these are all I have, but I'll take what I can get. I have to learn to time it better for a good spring harvest with them.

You may also need to try different varieties...I will do some research by then and see what would probably work best for you...

You can ripen those tomatoes by placing them in a box lined with newspaper, or by placing them on the windowsill (if a freeze comes before the ripened harvest)...
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#5404030 - 10/12/10 09:23 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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The spanking has begun, hopefully tomato's will follow...
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#5406303 - 10/13/10 12:51 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: curvytxfish]
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Would like some of y'alls advice...

I completely missed the boat on planting blackberries & strawberries - I was thinking you planted in the spring, but apparently you're supposed to plant in late September/early October. Wouldn't be a problem but, I've already put down about 6" of manure and 6" of hay to compost over the winter on my garden. If I tried to plant them, would the manure kill the plants?

I might just be outta luck as far as next year's berries frown
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#5406722 - 10/13/10 02:47 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
Would like some of y'alls advice...

I completely missed the boat on planting blackberries & strawberries - I was thinking you planted in the spring, but apparently you're supposed to plant in late September/early October. Wouldn't be a problem but, I've already put down about 6" of manure and 6" of hay to compost over the winter on my garden. If I tried to plant them, would the manure kill the plants?

I might just be outta luck as far as next year's berries frown
I've never purposefully grown berries, but I would think you could plant them in a large container (say 1 foot tall and 1 foot, or 1.5 feet in diameter) and then transplant them later...That should give them enough room for good root development...
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#5407855 - 10/13/10 07:14 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I need y'alls help. I am looking for a peach tree. Where is a good place to buy one in the metroplex? I found Bob Wells in Lindale but I haven't called them yet. I am picky so just any tree won't due. Looking at Harvester or Loring right now. Thanks y'all

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#5409317 - 10/14/10 08:46 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Allen Ehlers]
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We're having family over tonight for a big fall harvest dinner. Our daughter gathered these up.



Edited by AdventureTX (10/14/10 01:43 PM)
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#5411133 - 10/14/10 04:20 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
Would like some of y'alls advice...

I completely missed the boat on planting blackberries & strawberries - I was thinking you planted in the spring, but apparently you're supposed to plant in late September/early October. Wouldn't be a problem but, I've already put down about 6" of manure and 6" of hay to compost over the winter on my garden. If I tried to plant them, would the manure kill the plants?

I might just be outta luck as far as next year's berries frown


I planted my thornless as soon as Lowe's set them out (February?). Last year they didn't do well but this year they were loaded. I'd let the compost break down for a while since you've got 4-5 months to go and they probably won't produce much that first year anyway. .


Edited by Siberman (10/14/10 04:23 PM)
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#5411541 - 10/14/10 05:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Finally got my Fall garden in last week right before the rain. Turnips, turnip greens, rutabagas, mustard greens and some more radishes. I really like cold weather radishes.

Could I plant some cabbage now? Never have tried it in the Fall.

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#5411971 - 10/14/10 08:01 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Originally Posted By: AdventureTX
We're having family over tonight for a big fall harvest dinner. Our daughter gathered these up.



You have the makings of some good chow-chow (green tomato relish) there. Chop up some of everything you have with green tomatoes, and onions. Cover with vinegar, add salt and pepper, and bring to a boil. Dip it into pint jars with a slotted spoon, and place in the frig. It'll keep a year.
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#5413074 - 10/15/10 07:41 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: bill oxner]
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I went out to my garden yesterday afternoon for the first time in a while and couldn't believe how many peppers I had to pick. My habenero's made a great comeback and I picked about 25 of them along with about 40 from my other plants. Gonna do some good pickling and sauce making this weekend while rooting on the Rangers. Had a so so year but did good on our first corn plants and had some great okra and cucumbers. Melons did fairly well for the first time but didn't have a good year with the tomatoes.
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#5414791 - 10/15/10 04:47 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: tomnt]
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Could I plant some cabbage now? Never have tried it in the Fall.


Are you starting from seed or sets? I've had young cabbage plants take a freeze in early spring. Go for it. Worst possible scenario is that you'll find out when not to plant. wink
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#5414966 - 10/15/10 05:48 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Today's pepper harvest...I have about 200 (or more) Tabasco Peppers...
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#5418620 - 10/17/10 01:27 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Nice LSS.

What are those on the bottom row? I have a plant of Santa Fe Chile pepper that went the entire summer with nary a bloom, but now it's covered up. I'm up to about 100 tomatoes on the vine, but most of them a cherry or some kind of red delicious I got from Chickenman.
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#5419039 - 10/17/10 04:09 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Thank you...Those are Gypsy Peppers...
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#5419095 - 10/17/10 04:32 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Nice LSS.

What are those on the bottom row? I have a plant of Santa Fe Chile pepper that went the entire summer with nary a bloom, but now it's covered up. I'm up to about 100 tomatoes on the vine, but most of them a cherry or some kind of red delicious I got from Chickenman.



That's nuts Clown! I planted from those same seed and its been a failure. I'd post pics of my "garden" but I don't want to cry.

Next year she'll water it during early morning hours or I'll take away sex.
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#5419490 - 10/17/10 06:27 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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You ever heard of "Gypsy" onions ? They grow little bulbs on the top of the stalks and when the stalks fall over they re-plant themselves. My dad called them "shall-owes" (maybe a French pronunciation of "shallot" ? ) but they're not shallots.

Mine died out and I've been trying to find them for years. Good strong onion flavor without the bother of seeds.
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#5419507 - 10/17/10 06:30 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: chickenman]
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Next year she'll water it during early morning hours or I'll take away sex.


It's good to let your garden space lie fallow every now and then. grin
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#5419842 - 10/17/10 08:30 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
You ever heard of "Gypsy" onions ? They grow little bulbs on the top of the stalks and when the stalks fall over they re-plant themselves. My dad called them "shall-owes" (maybe a French pronunciation of "shallot" ? ) but they're not shallots.

Mine died out and I've been trying to find them for years. Good strong onion flavor without the bother of seeds.



I googled them since I have never heard of them, and found they are called by other names, maybe you can find them under one of these names. Here is a quote from another site:
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Walking onions, they're sometimes called. Or topset onions. Or tree onions. As they mature, an odd growth appears at the top of the stem, encased in a shroud that peels back like a snakeskin, revealing a clutch of small, dark-skinned bulblets that send out thin green scapes to dance on the breeze like a many-armed Indian goddess. As the bulblets grow, the weight of them bends the stem toward the soil. Where it touches, the little bulbs sprout, making a new garden for themselves, slowly but purposefully moving away from where I planted them, wandering in search of something better, or maybe just different.


From another site:
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Perennial white topset onions, walking onions, Egyptian onions, winter onions, shallots, multiplier onions and scallions are common names for these onions. These onions can be planted and left in the ground year round.
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#5422413 - 10/18/10 06:35 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Henry Hefner]
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Thanks, Henry ! cheers Now if I can just find a source for 'em. They're really good for cooking ( you don't want to eat 'em raw).


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#5437560 - 10/22/10 08:28 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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I remember reading somewhere to plant annual ryegrass in the garden over the winter to promote a more nitrogen rich soil for the spring. Any truth to that? Experiences?
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#5439512 - 10/22/10 05:10 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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Do a search on "cover crops" . White clover is a really good one.
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#5440086 - 10/22/10 08:09 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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I remember reading somewhere to plant annual ryegrass in the garden over the winter to promote a more nitrogen rich soil for the spring. Any truth to that? Experiences?
Nitrogen from what I read breaks down rapidly. Thats one reason they dont test for it in a soil test. I believe the key to a nitrogen rich soil is organic decaying matter. Instead of adding a grass to your garden that you might be fighting to kill when spring comes along just add a good compost and you will get the same affect.
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#5441481 - 10/23/10 07:46 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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I remember reading somewhere to plant annual ryegrass in the garden over the winter to promote a more nitrogen rich soil for the spring. Any truth to that? Experiences?


put some fish in the garden. I'd have to go buy them though, as I can't catch any.
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