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#5299573 - 09/13/10 10:31 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
Uh, we are talking about the real sweet tater vines (not the ornamentals), right ? If you have a good south-facing window they should be fine . Tin Head is right about the photo-period as well. If you're gonna use Regular Output flourescents, get at least two 48" shoplights and keep the plants as close to the middle as possible(ROs lose intensity on either end).

You can also start sweet potato vines by suspending the tater with toothpicks in a glass of water (kinda like you sprout avacado seeds).
They are the ones you buy and Lowe's and other places...However, I did find a couple potatoes at the root this spring from where one was planted in 2008 and returned in 2009...
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#5300259 - 09/13/10 01:54 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I was under the impression the "real" sweet potato vines are the ornamental type also. I mean there both one in the same, no difference . They just have nice foliage,could be wrong though. You can buy a fluorescent light that will be specifically for plants , not the home depot light. Fluorescents should do the job with out using much electricity, all though there are better lights. I will be bring in some pepper plants , I want fresh peppers in the middle of winter. banana


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#5301039 - 09/13/10 04:41 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: grandpa75672]
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Have never posted here before but thought I would.
I have a 4x8 back porch. I started tossing bird seed on it and the birds went nuts. Its great watching them fight over the seed.
Some days I see cardinals, blue jays, and doves all at the same time. Even got a squirrel that gets in on the act. And one day I even had one or our two local rabbits sitting on the porch with the birds and the squirrel eating that bird seed.


Invest in a hanging feeder when you can and keep the seeds off the ground where they'll also attract mice and rats which in turn attract snakes. If you want a real show get one of them cheap hummingbird feeders and set it out now. They're fixin' to start their migration to Mexico and Central / South America. thumb
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#5301159 - 09/13/10 05:03 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
I was under the impression the "real" sweet potato vines are the ornamental type also. I mean there both one in the same, no difference . They just have nice foliage,could be wrong though. You can buy a fluorescent light that will be specifically for plants , not the home depot light. Fluorescents should do the job with out using much electricity, all though there are better lights. I will be bring in some pepper plants , I want fresh peppers in the middle of winter. banana


Ok , my bad. I thought they were just an ornamental. bang
You might want to try Very High Output or Power Compact flourescents or even Metal Halides for growing inside. Try to get bulbs in the red / violet end of the spectrum (for plant growth). Halides will grow a tree in your house but they ( as well as Halogens) run
HOT and your meter will be spinning like a ceiling fan !
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#5302506 - 09/14/10 07:03 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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you can use t-5 flouresent set up that runs as much light as a metal halide but way less heat and the bulbs last longer. good reflectors will make it much better. (most flouresents are t-12 size, t-5 are smaller and alast longer that compact flouresents.)

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#5304748 - 09/14/10 04:53 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: jeffnsa]
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Originally Posted By: jeffnsa
you can use t-5 flouresent set up that runs as much light as a metal halide but way less heat and the bulbs last longer. good reflectors will make it much better. (most flouresents are t-12 size, t-5 are smaller and alast longer that compact flouresents.)


Oops , forgot about the T-5s. I'm still running PCs on my reef . I want to update but I'm trying to hold out 'til LEDs drop their prices.


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#5305654 - 09/14/10 09:39 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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You can also do a green house. That would be nice.
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#5341102 - 09/24/10 08:02 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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I had no idea how much okra a single okra plant could produce.

Okra, pickling cukes, jalapenos and sugar snap peas were my best producers this year. Everything else was marginal at best.


My peppers are still kicking arse and taking names. I have a few okra plants producing about 8 fruit a week. My tomatoes are back to being lush and green, and tons of flowers, but only a few tomatoes developing.
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#5341268 - 09/24/10 09:16 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: JDavis7873®
Originally Posted By: DHFisher
I had no idea how much okra a single okra plant could produce.

Okra, pickling cukes, jalapenos and sugar snap peas were my best producers this year. Everything else was marginal at best.


My peppers are still kicking arse and taking names. I have a few okra plants producing about 8 fruit a week. My tomatoes are back to being lush and green, and tons of flowers, but only a few tomatoes developing.
Get to spanking the tomato plants...You might be able to get a harvest of green ones before the first bad freeze (depending on the variety)...You can get them to ripen by placing them in a box lined with a newspaper...Or put them on the window sill...
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#5342791 - 09/25/10 01:59 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: JDavis7873®
Originally Posted By: DHFisher
I had no idea how much okra a single okra plant could produce.

Okra, pickling cukes, jalapenos and sugar snap peas were my best producers this year. Everything else was marginal at best.


My peppers are still kicking arse and taking names. I have a few okra plants producing about 8 fruit a week. My tomatoes are back to being lush and green, and tons of flowers, but only a few tomatoes developing.
exact same here in Mesquite.
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#5344584 - 09/26/10 08:50 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Due to the drop in overnight temps, please do not water at night. Return to watering early morning as to avoid fungus issues...
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#5344966 - 09/26/10 11:59 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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This is a good time of the year to make chow-chow with your green tomatoes. Mine are all gone.

I planted mustards, turnips, carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower in my fall garden. The mustards and turnips are a good good way to keep the weeds under control.

Cilantro is comming up all around the edges.
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#5349055 - 09/27/10 04:16 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
This is a good time of the year to make chow-chow with your green tomatoes. Mine are all gone.

I planted mustards, turnips, carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower in my fall garden. The mustards and turnips are a good good way to keep the weeds under control.

Cilantro is comming up all around the edges.


I've never had a successful fall garden.

Did you plant all that from seeds?
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#5349219 - 09/27/10 05:04 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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I've never had a successful fall garden.


Try all the greens. They can take a light frost. I've even had collards make it through to the next summer.
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#5349310 - 09/27/10 05:25 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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I have started my broccoli and cauliflower from seed, but bought the plants this year.
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#5362331 - 09/30/10 09:08 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: bill oxner]
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went out to water some container plants today and ran into 12 of these on 2 plants. Where yesterday there was nothing. bang


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#5362664 - 09/30/10 10:12 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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went out to water some container plants today and ran into 12 of these on 2 plants. Where yesterday there was nothing. bang
Those things take after wommin...They are the debil!!!!!
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#5365110 - 10/01/10 03:50 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Sphinx moth caterpillar. I have a lot of night-blooming flowers so there's a bunch of them around. I check my plants daily during the summer.
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#5374164 - 10/04/10 09:10 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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OK I have a whole bunch of really tall tomato plants with blooms all over them...and not a freakin tomato...truly, I left these tomato's in their little pots they came in way longer than I should have when i bought them , but I was getting tomato's...I grow everything else...but cant get diddly outta them. So my question is , do I chop them down and forget them, or do something else? and what would that be exactly? Can you sense my exasperation...I toasted my waterbill all summer to water correctly, and now I got nothing but questions ..and I have never had a problem growing them before...just don't get it....
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#5374360 - 10/04/10 10:02 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: curvytxfish]
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Did you spank them? Probably time to chop, others might have a better idea.


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#5374417 - 10/04/10 10:19 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: curvytxfish]
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OK I have a whole bunch of really tall tomato plants with blooms all over them...and not a freakin tomato...truly, I left these tomato's in their little pots they came in way longer than I should have when i bought them , but I was getting tomato's...I grow everything else...but cant get diddly outta them. So my question is , do I chop them down and forget them, or do something else? and what would that be exactly? Can you sense my exasperation...I toasted my waterbill all summer to water correctly, and now I got nothing but questions ..and I have never had a problem growing them before...just don't get it....
I would definitely spank them everyday...To spank them just means giving them a good, vigorous shake...You should be able to harvest some good green tomatoes before the first freeze...We're a little farther south so we generally can keep them a bit longer...If you don't have anything on them by the end of this month, it's going to be a lost cause...
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#5386567 - 10/07/10 10:26 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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OK going to try the spanking, just have tons o bees and thought it was being taken care of, but no tomato's would sure mean ya'll are right and I shouldn't assume ...ha ha....well I am going to try this and I will let you kow how it goes...Thanks for helping
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#5401387 - 10/12/10 12:40 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: curvytxfish]
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Killed a 4 inch long cut worm Sunday...Be sure to watch for those nasty little critters...

Also, for those of you who have added fish guts to the soil, have any added it before planting? I was considering adding it late this fall after the first freeze. I was wondering if adding the fish guts and letting them break down for a few months would be beneficial...
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#5401825 - 10/12/10 02:00 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Cucumber plants are full of blooms and small (1") cukes. Saw a bunch of little black dots on the leaves and the small cukes yesterday, assumed they were aphids. Got out the insecticidal soap (really just Dawn liquid and water) and gave them a good soaking, especially the back side of the leaves. My yellow bell pepper plant is loaded (only 1 plant made it thru summer). Counted 11 peppers on it yesterday. That is the tallest pepper plant I have ever seen. it is almost 5 ft tall. Not sure about the tomatoes yet. My 2 summer plants came back and full green growth but only 2 blooms. My other tomatoe plant I put in back in August is growing nicely but only a couple of blooms there too. I shook them good so we will see if they set.


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#5402524 - 10/12/10 04:06 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Also, for those of you who have added fish guts to the soil, have any added it before planting? I was considering adding it late this fall after the first freeze. I was wondering if adding the fish guts and letting them break down for a few months would be beneficial...


I do it all year long. I figure it'd probably be better to give the fish time to break down so the nutrients would be immediately available for young plants. Keep the area mulched and weeded so nothing undesireable uses up the fertilizer. I have a beautiful patch of Bermuda over a catfish graveyard in my garden spot right now. Think I'm gonna start using fish in the yard. One more excuse to hit the water. wink

Btw, I plant the heads, skin, bones and all.
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