Bored and thought I would post the difference of the two:

Santee Cooper



3-Way Rig

Those are some verry pretty rigs.wow and just look at the quality and perfection of those weights!!!!!!!!!!! I gotta know where i can get my hands on some of those???????

thanks alot chase guess i was mixed up. probably a brain faaart on my part. im old school trying some of the newer rigs.

I do my three way rig opposite yours, I put the hook on the long leader and the weight on the short. I do that when fishing for channel cats at Bridgeport.

Brother Terry showed me the SC rig today. I liked it.

nice...ordering some of those weights from you soon.

That's the good thing about the 3-way, you can rig it up all sorts of ways.

And ya can really see the offset in the hook in the first pic

Well dang, no wonder my 3 way rig always get wrapped up. I need to shorten the leader to the hook.

BTW what lb. line do you generally use on the 3 way rig?

chase4 u forgot to show the "stinkbait tom aka larry aka tiny tim " rig

I've always used the Carolina Rig.. what's the advantage in these rigs... keeps the bait a little off bottom ???

yup

Exactly, it keeps it off the bottom and sticks it up in their face. Cats aren't always hugging bottom so these rigs make it easy to adjust to diff depths that they are holding at

Thanks that's what I figured... my buddy has been using that Santee rig.. haven't seen much differance in our hook ups but we have been on dink fest the last few trips !... I guess the cork doesn't bother them.. just seems a little bulky to me but i'll give it a shot...

I'd like to know how to tie that knot you do on the hook. Thanks for posting the S.C. rig looks perfect for drifting. Just got my first kayak and now have to decide where to go. Going to travel light- Casting net, Bait bucket, Very small tackle box, Abu Garcia on a lightening rod with 15 pound Andie, Ice Chest for the keepers, gallon of Arizona green tea with ginseng and honey, trail mix, PFD, Paddle, Phone. Think I'll try Grapevine where Denton Creek come in,they might be packed in there like sardines after all this rain.

snell knot- chase4 had linked a video the other day but u can find several videos on You-Tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuYeFIPtHlk&feature=related

there are many videos on snell knot on you-tube but for some reason I keep watching this one

YEA I DONT GET IT, BUT ITS "ATTRACTING"

Don't for get your whistle and your 360 light, man.

Hahahaha..She can tie my knot anytime. Had to catch my breath when she reached for the snippers..Hehe

Heres the one I like ,looks like a combination of your two. Everything falls to the bottom for casting then in the water the float lifts the bait up to your determined height.

that last one is the "Stinkbait Tom aka Larry aka Tiny" rig

From past experences I never use a snap swivel on anything I dont mind loosin (weights only)

Chase or anyone else,

What size floats do yall use on the Santee Driftin?

Also, does anyone use a float on their hook-line section of the 3 way rig?

yeah ... i do ... also i don't use a 3 way swivel ... i use a regular swivel & tie the main line & the leader to the top

for float size you can test it to see if it will float your hook & bait

Great posts guys. Like they say "a picture is worth a thousand words". Thanks Chase and Tin Head

I know it's fun to watch, but it's also absolutely the wrong way to tie a snell. If you tie the way she shows, I promise you, you're going to lose a lot of fish and a lot of hooks.

The correct (and IMHO easiest) way to tie a snell is shown in this video:

Snelling a hook the easy way

I know it's fun to watch, but it's also absolutely the wrong way to tie a snell. If you tie the way she shows, I promise you, you're going to lose a lot of fish and a lot of hooks.


I watched 37 times and still didn't learn nuttin - good thing I already learned to snell hook

Some things are only learned by repetition. So, keep watching it - sooner or later you're going to get it right! Me - I'm a really slow learner.

I don't like to use a 3 - way swivel, somehow they always manage to mess up your line, like Albertking I use a heavy regular swivel and tie my leader to one hole and my main line and my weight line to the other end of the swivel, I put a 3" slip-float on my weight line before tying on the weight, when you throw it the float falls down to the weight andf when it hits the water it rises to the swivel to keep your bait off the bottom, I like to have about a 12 - 15" leader on my hook with 50# mono, and a 2 1/2 - 3 1/2' weight line, and my weight line is 20# and less, and my main line is 30#

Here is a link to tying a snell knot the right and easy way!!!

http://www.fishingkites.co.nz/fishingknots/fishing_knot_videos_and_movies/fish_hook_snell_knots.mov

Happy belated B-day!

On the Santee rig, s that a 'carolina keeper' you're using for a sinker stop?

The S-C, Tiny's float rig, etc. have worked great for me.

Been using the latter because current in river has been ripping. Only prob is when debris causes the leader to wrap on main line. Going to try the dropper loop version this a.m.

When y'all talk about leaders does this mean you are specifically using leader material like on the 25/50 yd leader spools or merely using fishing line as a leader?

What size do you use?

fishing line. 20# wt leader on 3 way, 40# leader on hook leader and 40# on SC hook leader

Thanks.

I'm using surgical tubing for my sinker stop.



I'm using Ande 50lb Flurocarbon for my leaders.

On the 3-way I use regular fishing line for the sinker.

a+

CHASE on the three way at the top what type of knot is that that you use after the weight. do you just slip it threw and tie the knot

Bob, it's a cinch knot.

What about the Santee Cooper leader to main line. Which Knot is that one.

i basically use a 3-way...didn't know it had a name.

On Santee Cooper leader to swivel is a figure 8 loop knot, main line to swivel is palomer knot.

http://videofishingknots.com/figure-of-eight-loop.html

like this one......

I spend a lot of my time getting hung up on the bottom. I just found out about this S.C. rig and I'm going to try it the next time I go out.

One question I have is: Is the float fixed to the line or free? Does it make a difference either way?

Thanks

on the SC the float is pegged 2 or 3 inches from the hook. it is sliding on the 3 way

bump...for any newbies.....

+1 on not using a 3-way swivel, they will twist your leader around the 3rd leg and you will break off a good fish, I know, I also use a regular barrel swivel and tie the main-line and my weight line to the first hole on the swivel, and my hook-leader line to the other end of the swivel, also, I slip a sliding float on my weight line, to keep the bait out of the mud!!!

That is very attractive, but if you want to learn to tie an easy snell know this is the one you need to watch!!!

http://www.fishingkites.co.nz/fishingknots/fishing_knot_videos_and_movies/fish_hook_snell_knots.mov

Pics for anyone that needs them. Thanks for showing me this rig guys

Float slides to the bottom when casting


Float rises to the top when it's in the water suspending the bait


Close up of swivel set up

The only thing I don't like about the SC rig is that if I don't keep my lines tight (it's hard to in a lil boat that moves around alot) Then the hook can get way up off the bottom
I might start using a "Tom 3way rig" on more of my rods....

If you're worried about that stick run your line thru a bead twice a foot or so from the end of your main line before you put the weight on.

Do you have problems with those weights hanging up when drifting? I use slinky weights and have almost no hang ups, but when I used the no roll disk weights, I hung up a lot.

I'd love to do a snell knot!

bump for any newbs............ good info right hera!

P.S. I wish Chase would come back......

I forgot catfishN8 got hacked. This is what they changed his name to.

Just like to add that after losing some 5oz banker weights, I've found that putting a snapswivel on the the weight (instead of tying the mono directly to the weight) might help some of you bankers not lose so many weights.....the weights seem to eat at the mono, but with the swivel there's no problem at all...... JUST THOUGHT I"D SHARE, for awhile I thought the weights were falling off due to the force of the throw, but it turned out the rough edge on the banker weights was slowly rubbing away the mono. Swivel on weight was the answer!

Great info .. thanks for sharing

Yeah, thanks guys.

Ive got one more question for yall, about the use of floats on carolina rigs. Is that beneficial for bank fishing also, or just drifting? I see how it would be effective. Are yall using the litte slide floats or are they the kind that attach directly to the line. I have some little sliders, but I wondered if them sliding right up to the hook would affect anything.

Use peg floats to lock them about 3 inches from the hook to keep the bait out of the mud

With the Sante cooper rig, if your line gets slack in it and you are still fishing your float will try rise towards the top of the water, so depending on how deep you are fishing, your bait may not be where you think it is, if you are drifting or can keep the slack out of it you should be ok!!!

Thanks guys appreciate it! I am ganna give it a try later tonight.

I was given a fishing guide in South Padre, for a charity event, that used a three-way rig made out of one piece of mono. He'd tie a loop in the center and one on each end. His main-line would have a swivel on the end. He put a loop on the end through the swivel and then pulled the three-way though the loop which secured it so that it was doubled back on the swivel. Then did the same with a kahle hook in the middle loop and again with a bank sinker on the bottom loop.

He had dozens of these tied up and when we switched spots he would slip the hooks and the weights off real fast and when we got to the new spot he would slip them back on. He told us that it worked great in grass and sand but in places where the weight could get stuck he would swap to an actual three-way swivel and use a lighter line from swivel to weight than swivel to hook. This way the weight could break off if it got stuck.

Like this but longer. He'd make the distance from the weight to the hook loop long enough to get above the grass.

what would be any disadvatage to using a peg float on the 3 way rig? i pre-made some that way and dont want to have to break them down!!, but if theres a disadvantage i will have to!?

Just take the peg out so it will slide to the top when in the water

Mark, did you put the bobber on weight leader or the hook leader? I put peg bobbers (pegged 2-3 inches from hook) on my hook leader on a 3 way. If on the weight leader u want it to slide up and down.......

Weight leader

i pegged them on the hook leader 2-3" from the hook

thats how i does it but then again I AM DCM.........

seriously it can't hurt nuttin...i think it's better than no bobber....cuz on a regular 3 way ur bait could still be laying in mud without a bobber......

DCM the expert who cant catch a fish!!!

???????? not sure what thats about?..............

there's several ways u can rig up a 3way rig....it's veratile....no bobber, pegged bobber on hook leader, sliding bobber on weight leader, longer hook leader , longer weight leader, sacrifice 3 way - using lighter test mono on weight leader than the hook leader, ...........

for new guys

Why not make a new one with less pages.

that'd be work

bump for new guys

Thx DCM. I was looking for this page the other day.

good topic

Bump for new guys....somebody sticky this.....

Bump for newbs.......

We need a sub forum for newbies and tournaments. If we had all stickys we'd lose page 1.

True........need something like carp section has

Exactly.

tip. use a different color line for each leader so that when you get a three way tangled up you can see what your doing!! jmo

This was Helpfull for sure.

Here are some better illustrations:





Pretty much everything you could ever need to know about rigs here.

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I noticed HI Vis line was not used for the leader. I didn't think it would matter with a 2 inch float right next to the hook. So is Hi Vis Line not recommended for the leader?

It wouldn't matter. I personally used Hi Vis line so I can see my line coming off of my pole. I just use clear 50 lb big game for a leader.

Thanks Txmedic!

I quit using a three way swivel because they kept cutting my line ... ain't used them in beau coupe years.

Bump for Newbs

This is what I was looking for found it a few years back and was not able to find it again.