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#5203898 - 08/16/10 01:29 PM
Palomar Knot
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Green Horn
Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 17
Loc: North Texas
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I had three line breaks yesterday, all three were tied with Palomars, is there something that may be causing this repeated agravating scenario, all broke right at hookset, heavy cover flippin frogs, SNAP. SNAP. SNAP.
HELP!
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#5203927 - 08/16/10 01:37 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/24/10
Posts: 901
Loc: Mesquite, TX
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Add more spit before you pull it tight, works for braid and mono. Its the only Knot I use, because it stays tight.
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#5204077 - 08/16/10 02:19 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3812
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It's a simple,strong,knot. But tie,wet,and chinch it slowly. What line and test are you using?
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#5204660 - 08/16/10 05:09 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: FZ1]
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Green Horn
Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 17
Loc: North Texas
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Seguar 15lb test
I am not convinced I am tying it right after reviewing it
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#5206076 - 08/17/10 01:30 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3812
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P.S. If you are fishing a frog "in" the cover then you need a stronger line,most use 50-65 braid.
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#5214764 - 08/19/10 09:03 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 68
Loc: Salem, VA
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Recently, I worked as a volunteer for Pure Fishing at the National Boy Scout Jamboree. Specifically, I worked the knot testing machine.I had never been around one of these machines before and it was very interesting. Of all the knots tested, the palomar was by far the strongest.If tied properly, the line would always break before the knot. This was even when the line was breaking much higher than the stated line test. As previously stated, it is important to cinch it down slowly with good lubrication.
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#5215775 - 08/19/10 12:47 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Chuck H.]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3812
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Right. Good post. Why do we Americans always think complex is better. No better/easier knot to tie. I tie it slow,wet,and right. Never broken anything off. JMO.
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#5321994 - 09/19/10 07:33 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: FZ1]
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Angler
Registered: 07/25/10
Posts: 370
Loc: Hickory Creek
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slow,wet,and right. Never broken anything off. JMO. gigity!
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#5385957 - 10/07/10 07:21 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: mwinter501]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 1940
Loc: Crooked I / Fort Worth
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the palomar should be the only knot ever invented
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#5409367 - 10/14/10 09:00 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: bassitup]
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Registered: 10/31/04
Posts: 7534
Loc: San Diego, Ca/ The Colony, Tx
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With Seaguar, slobber on it if you have too....I use 10-15 pound Seaguar for almost everything...with a wet palomar, zero issues.
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#5506300 - 11/11/10 09:32 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Mike Keenan]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 8478
Loc: Lake Palestine/Cherokee co
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For max strength, you should make sure the line does not
cross itself on the eye of the hook or lure. The line
sould lie beside itself, not overlap.. Many people
do not pay attention as they draw the knot tight.
MO
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#5656044 - 12/30/10 03:23 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Mo]
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Green Horn
Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 12
Loc: Houston, TX
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I wish I could visualize what you mean.
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#5741601 - 01/20/11 02:24 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: mj219]
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Green Horn
Registered: 11/27/10
Posts: 18
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I also experienced knot breakage with the Palomar. I never cinched it down with spit and may have 'crossed' it over. I went with the Palomar after hearing such 'greatness' about it. I'll try spit next time and will observe the line orientation also.
Thanks,
Bexar
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#5742356 - 01/20/11 04:58 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: mwinter501]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 1296
Loc: Denton County
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is there something that may be causing this repeated agravating scenario slobber on it if you have too slowly with good lubrication. I wish I could visualize what you mean. 
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#5808474 - 02/05/11 07:50 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 17785
Loc: Kingwood TX
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I had three line breaks yesterday, all three were tied with Palomars, is there something that may be causing this repeated agravating scenario, all broke right at hookset, heavy cover flippin frogs, SNAP. SNAP. SNAP.
HELP! If you are not real careful with a palomar, when you cinch it down, one end will actually move toward where the bend in the hookeye mets the shank. That spot will nick the line every time. When I screw up and do not pay extra attention to that, I just cut it and start over.
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#5812876 - 02/06/11 11:31 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: KingwoodCat]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 08/04/07
Posts: 6110
Loc: Not Far Enough West of Mordor
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I had three line breaks yesterday, all three were tied with Palomars, is there something that may be causing this repeated agravating scenario, all broke right at hookset, heavy cover flippin frogs, SNAP. SNAP. SNAP.
HELP! If you are not real careful with a palomar, when you cinch it down, one end will actually move toward where the bend in the hookeye mets the shank. That spot will nick the line every time. When I screw up and do not pay extra attention to that, I just cut it and start over. Yeppers, done dat !! Nut
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#5815419 - 02/06/11 11:22 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Grapenut]
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Angler
Registered: 01/17/08
Posts: 426
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Do not twist the line when you go over the hook shank. It will break almost evry time if you do.
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#5824966 - 02/09/11 08:30 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: bassfork]
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Angler
Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 456
Loc: DFW
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What Mo said very important.
Jim
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#5825012 - 02/09/11 08:36 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: jimmyboy]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 01/18/08
Posts: 5068
Loc: McKinney, TX
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Cinch it down slowly. Wouldn't use with flouro.
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#5990545 - 03/24/11 10:30 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Fillet O' Crappie]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 2074
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Probably just doing something wrong. I've never had anything I tied with knot break.
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#6049211 - 04/09/11 01:44 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Devildog28]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 543
Loc: Rockwall, tx
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5 years of using the Palomar and 0 breaks with it.
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#6049339 - 04/09/11 06:23 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Haulinwater]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 03/07/11
Posts: 522
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Lube, watch it so the loop doesn't get hung up on the hook loop/split ring of the lure. Also make sure you don't twist the loop as you go to pass the lure through it. Tied it about a million times, you'd have a hard time convincing me to even try something else.
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#6129446 - 04/30/11 12:12 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: mj219]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/26/01
Posts: 569
Loc: prairies and lakes
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#6357287 - 07/01/11 07:04 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: hellbender]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/05/11
Posts: 2322
Loc: North Texas
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I lost a big fish and my swimbait when my palomar knot broke. I didn't spend a lot of time looking at the end of the line but it was curled all up like a pig tail, so I think the line cut it self when the knot was stressed.
I remember cinching it up with the tag end of the line instead of pulling the main and tag at the same time. I think this caused it to cut the line when the pressure was on.
I am using Trilene big game 20#.
Any thoughts?
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#6357446 - 07/01/11 08:12 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: fish fear me]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 03/07/11
Posts: 522
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I think you got it, pulling one end...basically forcing it through the knot makes heat and wear. I've caught numerous 7+ pounders with it.
When I tie lures once I get the lure through the loop I hold the mainline and tag in my palm and "drop" the lure. Many more times than not I end up with an even knot I just sinch up.
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#6357456 - 07/01/11 08:16 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Goodysgotacuda]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/05/11
Posts: 2322
Loc: North Texas
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That's what happened, I just wish it wouldn't have done it then.
Errrrr.....
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#6688325 - 09/30/11 06:05 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: Goodysgotacuda]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/06/11
Posts: 647
Loc: Killeen, TX
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As you WET the line, lightly pull both the tag and main line. At the last sec, raise the loop over the tighter cinch. Lastly, tighten and finish the kot by pulling the TAG. This will prevent stressing the main line!
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#6688331 - 09/30/11 06:06 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: CoAngler]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/06/11
Posts: 647
Loc: Killeen, TX
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I just became a Pro Angler with that last post. Hmmmm...sure don't feel like a pro.
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#7291237 - 03/15/12 04:15 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 01/11/12
Posts: 1071
Loc: Prosper
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@_86_, lmao.
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#7291905 - 03/15/12 07:35 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: KingwoodCat]
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 9085
Loc: Shady Palms Trl. park, lot 17
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I had three line breaks yesterday, all three were tied with Palomars, is there something that may be causing this repeated agravating scenario, all broke right at hookset, heavy cover flippin frogs, SNAP. SNAP. SNAP.
HELP! If you are not real careful with a palomar, when you cinch it down, one end will actually move toward where the bend in the hookeye mets the shank. That spot will nick the line every time. When I screw up and do not pay extra attention to that, I just cut it and start over. That!!! That right there is what causes a Palomar to fail!!  'At's why I allus tie uhh TRILENE KNOT!
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#7291926 - 03/15/12 07:42 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 2904
Loc: Dallas
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never had a palomar fail in 3 yrs using it and i use 4lb and 6 lb
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#7293423 - 03/16/12 07:14 AM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: gotreal formerly known as getreal]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 2052
Loc: South Texas
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never had a palomar fail in 3 yrs using it and i use 4lb and 6 lb Yup. Been tieng the Palmoar knot for quite a while now and it's never failed me. I UL fish a lot. 4lb and 6lb line is what I'm using 75% of the time and the Palomar knot is the only one I really depend on for UL and L line fishing. Tie just about all of my line to hook/lure knots with a Palo Knot now.
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#7435489 - 04/19/12 09:39 PM
Re: Palomar Knot
[Re: G. Lake]
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Green Horn
Registered: 03/22/12
Posts: 17
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Flurocarbon is so hard that it will actually cut into itself. So as before mentioned in the thread, make sure to wet and clinch evenly. The palomar is the only knot I use.
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