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#5086526 - 07/13/10 04:03 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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Will be canning my 10th quart of pickles tonight. Almost starting to look like my Grandmas ole pantry (not really, she had a 6x10 ft pantry with shelves and stocked to the ceiling with all varieties of stuff). By the looks of things, there will be another quarts worth of cukes ready by Thur or Fri. It's been fun!
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#5086565 - 07/13/10 04:12 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: mysavioreigns]
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Sorry, I can't help with any ideas on what could have gone wrong. This was my first time to mess with cukes but they have grown like crazy and produced a lot so far considering I only have them planted in those big black tree buckets/tubs with about 5 plants per bucket. I built a little trellace(sp) for them to climb on and they are now about 5 ft tall and spread out. My jalapenos have been a disappointment this year though. They are making fine, but they have no heat to them at all. You can eat them like bell peppers, lol. Not even hot enough to make hot sauce. My bell peppers have done very good too, green, red, yellow and purple (first time I had seen that variety so I was a little surprised when they showed up).
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#5086662 - 07/13/10 04:35 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: scott01]
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Sorry, I can't help with any ideas on what could have gone wrong. This was my first time to mess with cukes but they have grown like crazy and produced a lot so far considering I only have them planted in those big black tree buckets/tubs with about 5 plants per bucket. I built a little trellace(sp) for them to climb on and they are now about 5 ft tall and spread out. My jalapenos have been a disappointment this year though. They are making fine, but they have no heat to them at all. You can eat them like bell peppers, lol. Not even hot enough to make hot sauce. My bell peppers have done very good too, green, red, yellow and purple (first time I had seen that variety so I was a little surprised when they showed up). Those tubs probably keep the bugs from climbing up onto the plants. I've got some plastic whiskey barrel liners that I was gonna use this year but never got around to it. Don't feel by yourself on the peppers. I haven't had a hot thai or serrano yet. My habs were rabbit-chewed but they're making a comeback. I'm hoping the hot weather will help the situation. Are you sure you didn't plant TAM (heatless) jalapenos ?
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#5086678 - 07/13/10 04:40 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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According to the label, they are supposed to be hot. Can't see a purpose in planting any that aren't! But then again, those little plants get all moved around and sometimes you're not sure what you end up taking home (I didn't plant from seed on the jalapenos). That's how I ended up with purple bell peppers too! lol All I had planned on growing was red and yellow but ended up with 4 different colors. I guess someone moved them around at the store too..
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#5086682 - 07/13/10 04:41 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: scott01]
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Oh, and I had a similar issue with the jalapenos last year. They all started out mild or no heat but after the temps got up, they ended up getting hotter and hotter. So I will let them ride along and keep taste testing.
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#5086753 - 07/13/10 04:59 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: mysavioreigns]
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No idea what I did wrong on the cucumbers. I didn't get any. Lots of vines and flowers, and I went and gave the flowers a little "shake" every few days, but only 3 cucs or so, and they shriveled up and died. One had pillbugs in it. Stupid pillbugs... Cucumbers, unlike tomatoes and peppers, don't need a shake or spanking...There are male and female flowers on a cucumber plant. If the bees don't pollinate the female flowers on the small cucumbers, they wilt and die...You can take a small paint brush (like for water colors) and dip it into the male flower (on a stem without a cucumber) and then take the pollen and put it in the female flower...
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#5086984 - 07/13/10 05:47 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: scott01]
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Will be canning my 10th quart of pickles tonight. Almost starting to look like my Grandmas ole pantry (not really, she had a 6x10 ft pantry with shelves and stocked to the ceiling with all varieties of stuff). By the looks of things, there will be another quarts worth of cukes ready by Thur or Fri. It's been fun! Whats needed to can? I have some cucumbers (regular size) and a bunch of peppers I would like to pickle. Is there a seasoning kit?
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#5087265 - 07/13/10 07:22 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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I'd like to learn how to do this too. It would be for peppers only as my cucumbers were non existent this year.. I too got a big fat ZERO. I've had 4 plants that were 3 ft tall and stretched along for about 10'. Had bees working the garden, but no cukes.
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#5087330 - 07/13/10 07:38 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Go to Wal-Mart and look for the "Ball Blue Book of Preserving" or : Try Here . I can peppers by washing them, packing them in hot jars with garlic/onion/sage/whatever then covering them with boiling vinegar. Screw the (hot) lids and caps on and let 'em cool overnight. After they've cooled down, press on the lids to make sure they're air-tight. If the lid doesn't pop back up they're sealed. If it does, put 'em in the refrigerator ASAP.
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#5087421 - 07/13/10 08:06 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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Go to Wal-Mart and look for the "Ball Blue Book of Preserving" or : Try Here . I can peppers by washing them, packing them in hot jars with garlic/onion/sage/whatever then covering them with boiling vinegar. Screw the (hot) lids and caps on and let 'em cool overnight. After they've cooled down, press on the lids to make sure they're air-tight. If the lid doesn't pop back up they're sealed. If it does, put 'em in the refrigerator ASAP. thought that book said "Blue Ball....." 
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#5088834 - 07/14/10 09:33 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Frank I]
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You can also self pollinate the cukes with a q-tip. I've been doing this on top of the bees doing their thing. i've noticed the bees are there in the mornings and I pollinate at night. As for the peppers, I also got 'hot' jalapenos and they are freakin HOT! but I like torturing myself  BTW, There's a whole list of things we should be planting right now in N Texas http://grovesite.com/page.asp?o=tamu&s=h&p=317762
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#5089492 - 07/14/10 12:15 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: DHFisher]
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This is my Grandmas recipe and it's what I use as well. For canning pickles, I use 10% vinegar (hard to find in the DFW area so my Mom bought me a gallon where she lives). I guess you can use 5% but change the ratio of water to vinegar to 2 qts water and 2 qts 5% vinegar. Anyway, it calls for 3 qts water, 1 qt 10% vinegar and 1 cup pickling salt. Put in a big pot to boil until the salt is dissolved. Pick your cukes, wash really good to get any little "spines" off. Get qt jar (sterilize if it's been used before). Put a head of dill in the bottom (dill weed/seed works okay too but be sure to put plenty), 1 garlic clove and a few peppercorns (I use 5 or 6). You can adjust the amount of garlic or pepper to see what you like best. Now stuff the cukes into the jar as tightly as possible till full, just below the neck of the jar. Spoon in 1 teaspoon of sugar (you can put 2 if you like them a tad sweeter) but you need to add some as it aids in making the pickles crunchy. Now fill the jar to the bottom of the neck with the water/vinegar solution. Put the lid on loosely. Have a bigger pot with boiling water ready to go and place the jar into that pot making sure it's at least halfway up the jar. Allow this to sit in the boil, water boiling for approx 15 minutes. You will see the cukes begin to change color and little air bubbles rise to the top. After 15 minutes, use a good towel or pot holder and remove the jar to the counter top. Tighten the lid down as tight as you can, I use those rubber lid removers because they aid in getting a grip on it plus the lids are usually hot by now. The lid will have a little "nipple" in the center, sticking up slightly. Usually the jar will seal and "burp" within 30 minutes but sometimes longer. You can always tell if it sealed properly because the little nipple I mentioned will be gone and the lid will be slightly sunken in. Let this sit on the shelf for about 30 days to get the flavors all happy. Then enjoy.
Once you gallon of the water/vinegar/salt mixture cools, I put it into a big gallon jug and refrigerate so that next time I have a mess of cukes ready for pickling, my mixture is ready to go. No need to boil it again before filling the jar. Just pour it on top of a jar full of cukes and complete 15 minute boiling process. This really speeds up the process on the next go around, especially if you're getting home from work and need to make a quick quart or 2.
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#5090555 - 07/14/10 04:49 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: scott01]
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This is my Grandmas recipe and it's what I use as well. For canning pickles, I use 10% vinegar (hard to find in the DFW area so my Mom bought me a gallon where she lives). I guess you can use 5% but change the ratio of water to vinegar to 2 qts water and 2 qts 5% vinegar. Anyway, it calls for 3 qts water, 1 qt 10% vinegar and 1 cup pickling salt. Put in a big pot to boil until the salt is dissolved. Pick your cukes, wash really good to get any little "spines" off. Get qt jar (sterilize if it's been used before). Put a head of dill in the bottom (dill weed/seed works okay too but be sure to put plenty), 1 garlic clove and a few peppercorns (I use 5 or 6). You can adjust the amount of garlic or pepper to see what you like best. Now stuff the cukes into the jar as tightly as possible till full, just below the neck of the jar. Spoon in 1 teaspoon of sugar (you can put 2 if you like them a tad sweeter) but you need to add some as it aids in making the pickles crunchy. Now fill the jar to the bottom of the neck with the water/vinegar solution. Put the lid on loosely. Have a bigger pot with boiling water ready to go and place the jar into that pot making sure it's at least halfway up the jar. Allow this to sit in the boil, water boiling for approx 15 minutes. You will see the cukes begin to change color and little air bubbles rise to the top. After 15 minutes, use a good towel or pot holder and remove the jar to the counter top. Tighten the lid down as tight as you can, I use those rubber lid removers because they aid in getting a grip on it plus the lids are usually hot by now. The lid will have a little "nipple" in the center, sticking up slightly. Usually the jar will seal and "burp" within 30 minutes but sometimes longer. You can always tell if it sealed properly because the little nipple I mentioned will be gone and the lid will be slightly sunken in. Let this sit on the shelf for about 30 days to get the flavors all happy. Then enjoy.
Once you gallon of the water/vinegar/salt mixture cools, I put it into a big gallon jug and refrigerate so that next time I have a mess of cukes ready for pickling, my mixture is ready to go. No need to boil it again before filling the jar. Just pour it on top of a jar full of cukes and complete 15 minute boiling process. This really speeds up the process on the next go around, especially if you're getting home from work and need to make a quick quart or 2. Do you use a rack on the bottom of the boiling water pot ? I've always heard it was best to so the jars won't break from the heat.
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#5092713 - 07/15/10 08:57 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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I don't use a rack but I guess it would be fine. This is sort of old school canning I guess and Granny didn't have the best of the best on the farm so they made do with what they had. But I also put the jars in before the water starts boiling so they can come up to temp a little if I use the vinegar mixture right out of the fridge (cold). If you want to heat the mixture up before putting it in the jars, then you are basically heating the jar up (tempering) so it wouldn't matter. Maybe I've just been lucky though but I did finish my 10th qt on Tuesday and none have caused any problems. If you want to spend a little extra money, I beleive they actually make a little canning "system" that has a rack, pot and even some fancy tongs to put the jars in and remove them. Since my garden is small and I'm only canning 1 or 2 jars at a time, I didn't see the need for it. If you have a bigger garden and end up canning a lot at one time, I would invest in it since you can boil multiple qts at once.
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#5094267 - 07/15/10 02:42 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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I think my beds have too much nitrogen. Tomatoes and squash are huge and leafy but hardly bearing any flowers. I use lots of compost which I think is too high in nitrogen, not enough carbon. Anyone have suggestions for a remedy? What are you using for fertilizers now? When was the last time you applied nitrogen? Nitrogen dissapears very quickly in the soil ,are you using organic or chemical? For flowers you need to concentrate on the middle of the 3 NPK levels. Phosphorous, the second number is what makes your plants bloom. Nitrogen the first is for as you know foliage growth. Eliminate all nitrogen ferts and concentrate on the second number. Example 0-10-6,(example only). APPLY NITROGEN ONLY WHEN YOU SEE LOWER LEAVES START TO YELLOW, THE PLANT WILL TELL YOU WHEN IT NEEDS NITROGEN. When plants get mature I usually try and concentrate in the second number adding nitrogen when needed , or at lower levels then the other 2. Too much nitrogen will keep plants growing foliage instead of veggies, and I want veggies not green leaves,lol. Its a balance, with too much nitrogen you end up feeding/growing/supporting the lush green foliage instead of supporting the veggies. You do as your example, grow plants and not veggies. Some just run a even number of the three npk levels which will work also 30-30-30.
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#5094514 - 07/15/10 03:37 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Woolybugger]
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Thanx, I'll pick up some 0-10-6 or similar. trying anything with a higher middle number will work. feeding with some thing like 4-10-6 will work fine also , just keep the first number(nitrogen) down.
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#5094959 - 07/15/10 05:37 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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I don't use a rack but I guess it would be fine. This is sort of old school canning I guess and Granny didn't have the best of the best on the farm so they made do with what they had. But I also put the jars in before the water starts boiling so they can come up to temp a little if I use the vinegar mixture right out of the fridge (cold). If you want to heat the mixture up before putting it in the jars, then you are basically heating the jar up (tempering) so it wouldn't matter. Maybe I've just been lucky though but I did finish my 10th qt on Tuesday and none have caused any problems. If you want to spend a liBut I also put the jars in before the water starts boiling so they can come up to temp a little ttle extra money, I beleive they actually make a little canning "system" that has a rack, pot and even some fancy tongs to put the jars in and remove them. Since my garden is small and I'm only canning 1 or 2 jars at a time, I didn't see the need for it. If you have a bigger garden and end up canning a lot at one time, I would invest in it since you can boil multiple qts at once. I use racks since my water bath and pressure cooker came with them and I remember grandmom using them when she pressure-cooked jars of green beans. This : "But I also put the jars in before the water starts boiling so they can come up to temp a little " makes a lot of sense , though. I'll try a bare bottom water bath next time. I'm tired of trying to balance all those pint jars on a rack.
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#5094967 - 07/15/10 05:40 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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Too much Miracle-Gro can have the same effect in flower gardens. You'll have huge bushy plants but not many flowers.
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