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#4965026 - 06/11/10 12:24 AM Guns allowed ??
triton13 Offline
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Registered: 06/02/10
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What's the rules for having a gun on the boat?? And are. Allowed to shoot It ?? Last week some gun were killing something at pines with a shotgun
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#4965050 - 06/11/10 12:50 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: triton13]
LSUfan Offline
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Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 762
Loc: flint,tx
Originally Posted By: triton13
What's the rules for having a gun on the boat?? And are. Allowed to shoot It ?? Last week some gun were killing something at pines with a shotgun


I would think it would be ok since people duckhunt from boats all the time???

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#4965186 - 06/11/10 06:43 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: LSUfan]
JustJ Offline
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Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 108
Loc: DFW
depends on which lake/river authroity

some prohibit rifles and handguns
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#4965190 - 06/11/10 06:45 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: LSUfan]
Limits4all Offline
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Registered: 01/07/08
Posts: 1312
Loc: San Antonio, TX
It is now legal for a anyone holding a CHL, Concealed Handgun License, to carry a concealed hand gun with them anywhere in US National and Texas State Parks. Also most of the private/corporate owned parks, LCRA, are following the same law with it being legal to carry for all CHL holders. The law that pertains to CHL doesn't pertain to hunting weapons and individual park hunting regulations must be followed.
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#4965251 - 06/11/10 07:09 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: Limits4all]
John175 ® Online   content
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Registered: 10/21/05
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Make certain it is not a Corps of Engineers lake. They have their own rules about firearms. If it is a Corps lake check with your local Corps office. I did.

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Thank you for your inquiry.

The answers to your questions can be located by reading CFR Title 36 - Parks, Forests and Public Property, CHAPTER 111 - U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, Part 327 - Rules and Regulations Governing Public Use of Water Resources Development Projects Administered by the Chief of Engineers.

Section 327.13

(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows or other weapons is prohibited unless:
(1) In the possession of a Federal, State or local law enforcement officer;
(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under 327.8, with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or between hunting and fishing sites;
(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or (There are no authorized shooting ranges on USACE property at Lavon Lake.)
(4) Written permission has been received from the District Commander.


Would it be permissible for someone to take a handgun on a boat on Corps property holstered without magazine inserted?

No. Section 327.13 (a) (1) clearly states the possession of loaded firearms or ammunition is prohibited.

Is the water on the lake considered corps property or is the Corps property only the parking and launching facilities?

The rules and regulations stated in Title 36 CFR shall be applicable to water resources development projects, completed or under construction, administered by the Chief of Engineers. The term "project" or "water development project" refers to the water areas of any water resources development project, to all lands owned in fee by the Federal Government and to all facilities therein or thereon of any such water resources development project.

Under what conditions is carrying a handgun on Corps property allowed?

Possession of a loaded handgun (concealed or not) by a member of the public is a violation of Title 36 CFR Section 327.13.

If you have additional questions or if you would like to speak with me directly, please feel free to call.


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#4965286 - 06/11/10 07:27 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: John175 ®]
Limits4all Offline
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Registered: 01/07/08
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Thanks John175 for the info on Corp. properties. I never gave the Corp. properties much thought since I don't normally visit those lakes or parks. Thanks again.
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#4965297 - 06/11/10 07:34 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: Limits4all]
John175 ® Online   content
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Registered: 10/21/05
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Originally Posted By: Limits4all
Thanks John175 for the info on Corp. properties. I never gave the Corp. properties much thought since I don't normally visit those lakes or parks. Thanks again.
No problem. I didn't want to put the CHL at risk and I was unsure about the National Park ruling so I shot the Corps an e-mail. So many bureaucracies with conflicting rules it can be difficult for a citizen to go outside without violating somebody's rule. bang


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#4965336 - 06/11/10 07:48 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: John175 ®]
cable Offline
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Registered: 01/28/09
Posts: 1713
I wouldn't go to Falcon without a small armory on board.

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#4965367 - 06/11/10 08:00 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: cable]
Big Rog Offline
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Registered: 06/08/10
Posts: 11
If I am guessing someone shooting from a boat on Pines this time of year were hunting for Pigs. They are all over the place up on the north end. what area of the lake were you at.

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#4965377 - 06/11/10 08:05 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: Big Rog]
triton13 Offline
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Registered: 06/02/10
Posts: 191
155 side... and i did see a few of those big muskrats(dunno spelling) that was blown up!
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#4965435 - 06/11/10 08:30 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: John175 ®]
Limits4all Offline
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Registered: 01/07/08
Posts: 1312
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: John175 ®
Originally Posted By: Limits4all
Thanks John175 for the info on Corp. properties. I never gave the Corp. properties much thought since I don't normally visit those lakes or parks. Thanks again.
No problem. I didn't want to put the CHL at risk and I was unsure about the National Park ruling so I shot the Corps an e-mail. So many bureaucracies with conflicting rules it can be difficult for a citizen to go outside without violating somebody's rule. bang


Boy that is the truth especially when you carry on a regular basis.
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#4966019 - 06/11/10 11:12 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: triton13]
Bill Waldschmidt Offline
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Registered: 06/21/07
Posts: 23013
Loc: Dallas
Originally Posted By: triton13
155 side... and i did see a few of those big muskrats(dunno spelling) that was blown up!


Delightful. So you have a bunch of kids running around with shotguns, killing nutrea and leaving them to rot in the lake.

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#4966147 - 06/11/10 11:45 AM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: triton13]
FZ1 Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 4800
FZ1 don't need to carry no gun.

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#4966237 - 06/11/10 12:11 PM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: FZ1]
Longeye Online   content
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Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 7438
Loc: Little Elm
Originally Posted By: FZ1
FZ1 don't need to carry no gun.


Then pray that the other guy don't either....

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#4966259 - 06/11/10 12:19 PM Re: Guns allowed ?? [Re: Longeye]
FZ1 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 4800
Ain't Skeered.

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