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#4933152 - 06/02/10 06:11 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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will it kill the plants?
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#4933478 - 06/02/10 07:37 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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Originally Posted By: DHFisher
I'm there with ya on the late harvest. So far I've only had sugar snap peas which did really well. Tomatoes are green, squash are blooming but not going, I've got one cuke started and a couple small peppers on very small plants. My excuse is this is the first year of my raised bed so the nutrients are probably all wrong.


I'm doing better this second year with my raised beds, but I think mine was more of an issue with drainage. I'm not breaking any records, but I've got 12-15 peppers going and about 20 or so peppers scattered over 8 or plants. I did much better last year in the fall though. It was a tough summer watching my maters plants grow tall but not produce anything, but when September rolled around they did quite well.

I've found myself with room for a few more things to plant, but can't decide what I want to put there. It'll probably be a couple of nice mature cubanelle pepper plants. Those are the best tasting peppers.



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#4933555 - 06/02/10 07:59 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Cody Neace]
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Originally Posted By: Crappie&CatfishDudes
will it kill the plants?


I'm sorry, dude. I didn't read your post right. I thought you were talkin' about an un-planted plot.

Yes, Round-Up will kill all plants it gets on. I've used it to kill locust trees. It doesn't stay in the ground though, so if you're a really good shot (and there's no wind) you can use it to spray just the plants you want to kill.

Other than that , about the only way I know is to get a hoe or spend an hour or so every day bent over pullin' up grass. wink


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#4933618 - 06/02/10 08:13 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
Cody Neace Offline
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#4934402 - 06/02/10 11:37 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Cody Neace]
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For a more controlled application of round-up, you can sponge or paint it on. A little dab'll do ya! I've used a rope wick in the past as well.

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#4934657 - 06/03/10 07:11 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: sputterfuss]
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i had watermelon or pumpkin growing from my compost pile, a few tomato, and some trampled on cucumber plants, and a fruit laden peach tree destroyed last night by some severe storms last night in san antonio. luckly i had just brought in my 3 week old chickens from there chicken run which is a 10x15 chain link dog run, it was thrown across the yard by the winds.

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#4934827 - 06/03/10 08:28 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
Originally Posted By: Crappie&CatfishDudes
will it kill the plants?


I'm sorry, dude. I didn't read your post right. I thought you were talkin' about an un-planted plot.

Yes, Round-Up will kill all plants it gets on. I've used it to kill locust trees. It doesn't stay in the ground though, so if you're a really good shot (and there's no wind) you can use it to spray just the plants you want to kill.

Other than that , about the only way I know is to get a hoe or spend an hour or so every day bent over pullin' up grass. wink




For what it's worth, I was reading an article last week about Roundup. Roundup was found to cause extreme harm to reproductive cells, including destroying cells and DNA damage.

Anyways, just worth noting.
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#4934952 - 06/03/10 09:08 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Many different ways to get rid of weeds.

Boiling water

vinegar/salt

and DE has REALLY helped out to control bugs and my harvest ratio is up. With DE I've found it works as a preventive...once you got bad bugs it's usually to late and then the best thing to do is remove the infected plants and either burn them or put them in a plastic bag......DON'T COMPOST!
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#4935005 - 06/03/10 09:21 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Hey Adventure, I've got another plan for spring next year grin

I'm going to see about getting 1 or 2 chicks, and letting them go ape-crazy in my garden before planting in the early spring. That should wipe out a little bit of the bug population, albeit for a little while.

Just not sure what to do with the chicks after that. I can't keep them, lol.
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#4935047 - 06/03/10 09:32 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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That's usually what I do....but I built a movable cage so I can isolate them to one area.....I'll take'm!

This guy was hanging out with me last night



My wife spreads last years seeds of these black-eyed susans every fall and they keep coming back.

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#4936605 - 06/03/10 03:57 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Since I haven't been here in forever crazy, some pics...

Some potatoes I picked.



Beans and peas are doing really well. Though, my peas are covered in ants and I have no idea why.



Finally, the tomato plants set fruit. I've got somewhere around 10-15 total, from 2 plants. Not very big plants, but at least I have tomatoes.



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#4936646 - 06/03/10 04:08 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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I have a ton of fruits on my tomato plants. I have 6 plants with roughly 10 fruit per plant. About 5 or 6 nice big suckers, the kind you can put in the palm of your hand and not be able to fully close your hand. Why will these little boogers not ripen? They have been this way for over a week. I've never had tomato plants before, but didn't expect it to take this long for them to ripen.
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#4936729 - 06/03/10 04:33 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: jeffnsa]
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Glad you're ok, man. thumb

I had the wind pick up and drop my chicken house ( an 8 x 10 portable building that wasn't secured) with all the chickens and chicks in it. Took me all day to round all those little suckers up.
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#4936755 - 06/03/10 04:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
Originally Posted By: Siberman
Originally Posted By: Crappie&CatfishDudes
will it kill the plants?


I'm sorry, dude. I didn't read your post right. I thought you were talkin' about an un-planted plot.

Yes, Round-Up will kill all plants it gets on. I've used it to kill locust trees. It doesn't stay in the ground though, so if you're a really good shot (and there's no wind) you can use it to spray just the plants you want to kill.

Other than that , about the only way I know is to get a hoe or spend an hour or so every day bent over pullin' up grass. wink




For what it's worth, I was reading an article last week about Roundup. Roundup was found to cause extreme harm to reproductive cells, including destroying cells and DNA damage.

Anyways, just worth noting.


Gotta link to the article? RoundUp is supposed to break down into non-detrimental salt compounds. Although I don't really want to reproduce any more, I'd like to know I still can. wink I may just start filling the sprayer with vinegar. It's certainly cheaper.
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#4936775 - 06/03/10 04:43 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Loc: Titus County
Originally Posted By: AdventureTX
Many different ways to get rid of weeds.

Boiling water

vinegar/salt

and DE has REALLY helped out to control bugs and my harvest ratio is up. With DE I've found it works as a preventive...once you got bad bugs it's usually to late and then the best thing to do is remove the infected plants and either burn them or put them in a plastic bag......DON'T COMPOST!


Vinegar works on the nut grass and other weeds that grow up in the middle of my walkway so I'm sure it'd be fine for the garden. Don't know if I'd use salt. It's gonna stay in the ground and eventually leach over into other plants.
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#4936803 - 06/03/10 04:52 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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The ants are attracted to the sugar in the peas. If you plant sweet corn harvest it before it gets too ripe or you'll have fire ant bites all over your hands.
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#4936821 - 06/03/10 04:55 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Your garden rocks. grin It's really grown since the first pic. Must be nice to have toads. I haven't seen one in years.
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#4936831 - 06/03/10 04:57 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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wink It takes a while. Be patient. The wait is worth it.
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#4938208 - 06/03/10 10:40 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Things are looking pretty good in my garden. I was happy to see my first jalapeno starting to grow but went out today to discover it missing. I can only assume it was a bird or a squirrel - I put up a fence to keep the dogs out. Not sure if birds or squirrels can feel the heat but I hope they can so they'll think twice next time.

Any ideas to keep them out? I hear scarecrows don't do much. What works? Rubber snakes? I read something about reflective objects (like CDs) that twirl might work.

Also, my green bean plants are producing a pretty good amount of beans but the plants themselves don't look big enough to me. Should I remove all of the existing beans and then remove the blooms as they form for a while so the plant has a chance to grow? Or should I just let them go?

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#4939511 - 06/04/10 10:32 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: jeff.m]
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Thanks Siberman it's better this year than the previous 4 so hopefully it keeps improving.....I knew nothing when I started and still know very little. Are there professional gardeners that you can rent for the day? Mine keeps going in stages with improvements each year, but I really think it could be much better.

I'm surprised that there isn't a company that sets up "your" garden on timers and all the planting and then maybe a once a month maintenance????

I think that would get a lot of lazy people gardening!
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#4940856 - 06/04/10 03:16 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
The ants are attracted to the sugar in the peas. If you plant sweet corn harvest it before it gets too ripe or you'll have fire ant bites all over your hands.


Will they harm the peas? I noticed I had actual sprouts forming of the shells the peas will be in, this morning. I hope they don't eat the peas before I ever get to harvest them.

Originally Posted By: Siberman

Gotta link to the article? RoundUp is supposed to break down into non-detrimental salt compounds. Although I don't really want to reproduce any more, I'd like to know I still can. wink I may just start filling the sprayer with vinegar. It's certainly cheaper.


I read it in Mother Earth News magazine, who got it from the Toxicology journal.

Link
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#4941265 - 06/04/10 04:24 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Loc: Titus County
Originally Posted By: AdventureTX


I'm surprised that there isn't a company that sets up "your" garden on timers and all the planting and then maybe a once a month maintenance????

I think that would get a lot of lazy people gardening!


Might be a good way to make a dollar. thumb
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#4941281 - 06/04/10 04:27 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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I'm getting only a couple nanner peppers a day (only have two plants). I cant eat them every day and they are spoiling before I get enough to pickle. I have them just sitting on the counter top. Is there a better way to store them until I get enough?
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#4941311 - 06/04/10 04:34 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns


Will they harm the peas? I noticed I had actual sprouts forming of the shells the peas will be in, this morning. I hope they don't eat the peas before I ever get to harvest them.

The peas haven't matured but they're sprouting ? Got a pic ? I'm not sure about that. Open a few pods up and see what's going on inside.
As far as the ants , I'd be more wary of aphids sucking the juice out of the plants since the pea pods should keep the ants out. If they're harvester ants they could do some damage but I have "sugar" and "fire" ants build at the bases of my chili plants every year with no real damage done.




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#4941349 - 06/04/10 04:42 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Originally Posted By: txfour
I'm getting only a couple nanner peppers a day (only have two plants). I cant eat them every day and they are spoiling before I get enough to pickle. I have them just sitting on the counter top. Is there a better way to store them until I get enough?


Put 'em in the vegetable crisper of your refridgerator. Low humidity will keep 'em longer.
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