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#4890608 - 05/21/10 08:27 PM Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take?
jnd59 Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 06/17/07
Posts: 569
Loc: Weatherford
I've seen the posts for overnight tuna charters here for some time and I've always wanted to go on one. I've been blue water fishing many times but always with private charter that provided the all the gear. What tackle would I need to accumulate to be ready (in general, I don't intend this to be best combo issue, we can argue about that later smile
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90 Black / Silver Champion with a young and incredibly good-looking driver.
You do realize that no matter how fast a fish swims it never sweats?
If you eat pasta and anti-pasta, will you still be hungry?
According to my Softball Teammates, CPA stands for "Can't Play Anything"

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#4895552 - 05/23/10 06:03 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: jnd59]
Bazztex Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 24475
Loc: DFW , Texas , USA
I take 1ea 120QT & 150Qt coolers.. Use the 120 to haul food and drink for the trip and both are used for fish if we get on the Yellowfin,Snapper, Goruper and AJ's good. Use block ice or frozen water jugs for long range and cubed is to cool things off fast. Use gallon zip locks to keep food dry. Berr and Soft drikns in Cans or plastic bottles only NO GLASS CONTAINERS & NO BANANAS... Period.

Sunscreen SPF 30
Soap, Shampoo and Towel
2 changes of clothes ( you will get nasty and there is a shower)
Trash bag to keep dirty clothes seporated from the clean ones (Very Important)
Sleeping bag and pillow
Sun Glasses
Folding lock back knife
pliers, screwdrivers & wrenches needed for tackle/ reels
Rain Gear with Bibs (keeps the tuna blood off your clothes)
Rubber Boots (keeps water and tuna blood off your feet/ shoes)
Hat/ cap or 2 (no fun being out in the sun without one)
Tylenol or Asprin
Motion Sickness medication (if needed)
2 ea Golf Towels with a clip (to keep bait slime off your hands)
Tub of Citrus wipes (to clean your hands)
Conventional 80Lb AJ and Bottom fishing rig Avet 30 & Bar Bar Tackle 60-100# 5ft 6" Rod
Free Style Jig 400gr Bar Bar tackle Hopper 6ft rod and Avet HXJ 2/5 MC
Top Water Spinner 7ft Bar Bar Tackle 60# rod & Saragosa 18,000 or better.
20ea Hammered Chrome Diamond or Knife Jigs 10-14oz Pink Glow and Chart Glow.
5 each Tuna Hunters or OTI Poppers and a couple of Frenzy Ballistic Flyers Blue or Green Glow. 5 ea Blue Frenzy Angry Poppers.
Tuna fighting Belt and harness (recommended if you get into the heavy weight YFT)
1,500yds of 65# JB 1 solid braid
1,500yds of 70 Diawa Saltiga color/ depth coded braided line
1,200yds of 80# JB hollow Braid
60# Flourocarbon Leader
80# FC leader
130# Mono Leader (for Jigs and Topwaters)
220# SPRO Super Swivels (Black Stainless)
25ea Owner 5/0 Mutu Circle Hooks (chunking for YFT)
10ea Owner 13/0 Super Mutu Circle Hooks (AJ & Grouper) live bait hooks



The boat will supply a 4/0 or 6/0 Penn with a 50-60# 6ft class E-Glass boat rod with 60# mono line.. leaders, hooks, weights and cut bait/ squid/ Ice Minnows-Sardines. A bunk to sleep in and will assit you in boating your fish. They will also have cold boxes full of ice to store your fish until returning to the dock.

The Scat Cat at Port A has an onboard galley that sells snacks and drinks/ coffee/ sodas. They also will cook hamburgers/etc.


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#4895672 - 05/23/10 06:38 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: Bazztex]
jnd59 Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 06/17/07
Posts: 569
Loc: Weatherford
Thanks Bazztex. That is the perfect list. I'm going to start compiling my stuff in anticipation of a trip this fall/winter trip. I had a twelve hour trip for this weekend scheduled out of venice. It appears that is going to be a no go. thanks for your help.
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90 Black / Silver Champion with a young and incredibly good-looking driver.
You do realize that no matter how fast a fish swims it never sweats?
If you eat pasta and anti-pasta, will you still be hungry?
According to my Softball Teammates, CPA stands for "Can't Play Anything"

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#4904330 - 05/25/10 07:49 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: jnd59]
iamquockie Offline
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Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 3105
Loc: Arlington
That sums it up
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#4905241 - 05/25/10 11:34 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: iamquockie]
betterbet24 Offline
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Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 602
no bananas?!? haha

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#4905401 - 05/26/10 01:15 AM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: betterbet24]
IgotSNAGGED Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 06/29/09
Posts: 2543
Loc: Dallas, TX
bad luck man

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#4906034 - 05/26/10 08:46 AM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: IgotSNAGGED]
LandPirate Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 5343
Loc: Buda/Port A
Bananas is bad luck. Don't bring 'em or you'll P.O. the Capt. Don't even bring 'em for a bay trip. In fact, don't even wear anything that might be considered banana yellow. Seriously.
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Buda/Port Aransas, TX

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#4910817 - 05/27/10 09:30 AM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: LandPirate]
5-20 Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 2022
Loc: Austin/San Diego
Some great info... I'll have to refer to this in the future...
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#4917448 - 05/28/10 05:47 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: 5-20]
Bazztex Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 24475
Loc: DFW , Texas , USA
A couple of things I left off the list is... A folding chair.. we use them to sit on the upper deck on the Scat Cat and Big E. Get the heavy duty one for camping that fits in a bag.. some even bring the ones that have the foot rest and catch a nap up there. Be sure to rinse it off good when you get back, the steel legs don't like salt spray to well.

Also some like to bring a long handled bait net or cast net to get live fliers.. the deckhands usually have a cast net. A live flying fish is Yellow Fin Tuna Candy unless the Cudas and Makos get there first! bang

If you do bring a cast net or see one laying in the walk way... get it off the deck or under a bench when not in use. They are slick as ice on a wet deck... dont ask me how I know bolt

Bazz fish

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#4937565 - 06/03/10 08:29 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: Bazztex]
jnd59 Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 06/17/07
Posts: 569
Loc: Weatherford
Thanks Bazz for the help. Obviously my Venice trip was a no go and it is looking like the reschedule is a no go as well. I'm keeping your list and getting ready for a fall trip.
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90 Black / Silver Champion with a young and incredibly good-looking driver.
You do realize that no matter how fast a fish swims it never sweats?
If you eat pasta and anti-pasta, will you still be hungry?
According to my Softball Teammates, CPA stands for "Can't Play Anything"

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#4971745 - 06/13/10 11:15 AM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: jnd59]
MJI Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 06/02/10
Posts: 65
Hey Bazztex,

I'm also going on my 1st tuna trip and I gotta ask two questions
1) What is you best knot for tying the braid to the SPRO swivel as well as the leader to the swivel?
2) Best knot for the various lures to the leader?

Seen many a report on "fish lost to the knot".
Thank!!



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#4972161 - 06/13/10 02:24 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: MJI]
Bazztex Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 24475
Loc: DFW , Texas , USA
MJI Welcome Aboard The TFF! cheers

I tie a double line in the braid (main line) with a 7 twist surgeons loop... the double line loop is about 1ft long after the knot is tied;

Make the double line like this but take the line thru 7 times...
http://www.netknots.com/html/surgeons_end_loop.html

Then make a 3-5 wrap Cats Paw around the top of the SPRO Super swivel with your surgeons loop.
http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/fishing_knots/knots_catspaw.html

The San Diego Jamb knot is a good secure connection for F/C or Mono Leaders to any terminal tackle, hook or lure eyes.

http://www.netknots.com/html/san_diego_jam_knot.html

Take your time, wet the line before cinching down the knot and stress test all knots before letting it go in the water.

For attaching Mono or F/C leaders and top shots to braid tie a 7 twist Surgeons loop and then tie the Improved Albright knot with finishing overhand knots.
http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/fishing_knots/knots_imp_albrt.html

http://svc219.wic007v.server-web.com/fishing/images/LineSetUp.jpg

I have used this knot system for fishing topwaters and boated Yellow Fin in exccess of 120#. Most terminal equipment failures are due to drags being set too tight or drags that do not function correctly. Maintain and lube your drags and make sure you get a good scale and set them correctly at 1/3 the test of you line. Remember as a fish takes drag and the spool decreases in diameter the drag pressure goes up.


Enjoy your trip thumb

Bazz fish





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#4972189 - 06/13/10 02:38 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: Bazztex]
Bazztex Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 24475
Loc: DFW , Texas , USA
Then there is the loop to loop connections method..

A lot of veteran Tuna chasers prefer the loop to loop connections for all leaders. It's time consuming, takes patience, special equipment and a lot of work or can get expensive of you buy the leaders pre made.

BHP Tackle / Basil makes some of the best loops there are...

http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=14

http://www.bhptackle.com/home.php?cat=1

http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=3

JAK in Kona also makes some great Looped/ Wind on leaders...
and leader making tools with how too illustrations.

http://jaknkona.com/WINDONLEADERS.html

http://jaknkona.com/LEADERKITS.html





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#4972662 - 06/13/10 04:46 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: Bazztex]
MJI Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 06/02/10
Posts: 65
AWESOME!!!!

Thank you for all the GREAT info!!!!!!!!!
Since it my 1st trip, have a Ugly Stick Tiger BWC2201 7', medium action.
Reel is a Shimano Spheros 18000FB.
Will hit up BPS or Cabela's for the lures.

Do you mind yet another recommendation?
1,500yds of 65# JB 1 solid braid
1,500yds of 70 Diawa Saltiga color/ depth coded braided line
1,200yds of 80# JB hollow Braid
<which one since I only have one reel>?????

60# Flourocarbon Leader
80# FC leader
130# Mono Leader (for Jigs and Topwaters)
<I have ANDE Mono 80#, ya think I safe>??

Thanks!

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#4972908 - 06/13/10 05:46 PM Re: Long range tuna charters-what would I need to take? [Re: MJI]
Bazztex Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 24475
Loc: DFW , Texas , USA
MJI

For that set up I'd go with the Daiwa Saltiga 70# because you can use it to judge your Jig fishing depth and on a spinner it will cast well for top waters.

Get the 60# F/C leader for chunk fishing and some 130# Mono for Topwaters and Jig shock leaders. I use Crmip sleeves on the 130# Mono.. makes a clean and strong connection.

Check out the AFW double barrel crimp sleeves size 4 (black) and AFW Big Game crimper.
http://www.charkbait.com/cs/cshR-AFW.htm

Good crimping info...
http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html

You can go with the 80# Mono leader just watch for nicks.. Tuna teeth can and will saw up your jig leaders near where it attaches to your assist hook ring. The 130# takes much more of a beating than thinner line and can be fished longer without changing.


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