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#4847199 - 05/11/10 09:34 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I have been checking it lately and the moisture is atleast 3 inches down, I did not dig any further thinking it was plenty good. I know ever since I put this garden in we have had very little rain, with very good drainage can you water too much ?

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#4847227 - 05/11/10 09:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Happykamper]
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Originally Posted By: Happykamper
I have been checking it lately and the moisture is atleast 3 inches down, I did not dig any further thinking it was plenty good. I know ever since I put this garden in we have had very little rain, with very good drainage can you water too much ?
Watering too much with good draining soil is a bit difficult...You need to water more often if it takes three inches before you're hitting moisture...If it's moist from the top down 3 inches you're probably okay...

My soil drains really well and I water at least every other day, and with the winds lately, I've had to turn on the sprinklers for an hour after hand watering...The southerly winds we've been experiencing have really dried out the soil...

The tap roots on most veggie plants are not going to be longer than 4 inches and most of the supporting roots are much closer to the soil. With pepper plants, they begin just under the soil...
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#4848546 - 05/12/10 09:41 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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The soil was moist from the top down to atleast 3 inches, hopefully some good sunshine will perk it up some.

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#4848594 - 05/12/10 09:55 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Happykamper]
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Do tomato plants cross pollinate? or do they keep it all amongst themselves?

They say we're going to get some good rain this week!!!
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#4849399 - 05/12/10 01:07 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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I have a tomato plant that is growing like crazy, prolly 3ft high and 4ft across. Problem is, it barely has a couple flowers, and only 1 pitiful fruit. It's green and healthy but just not makin' babies. Any ideas? (Please don't tell me it is ghey)

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#4849962 - 05/12/10 02:58 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Woolybugger]
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Does anyone think soaker hoses work best in gardens?

It's seeming to make a difference for me this year.
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#4849996 - 05/12/10 03:06 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Woolybugger]
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Artificial hail storm! I know it sounds drastic, but I've taken a broom stick to lanky tomatoe plants that refused to set fruit. Just a light beating. Looks like he11 for a while, but it works.

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#4850184 - 05/12/10 03:34 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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Originally Posted By: Bass_Bustin_Texan
Does anyone think soaker hoses work best in gardens?

It's seeming to make a difference for me this year.
One of the reasons they work better is because they are closer to the root system and deliver the water in a drip rather than a flood, allowing the plants to absorb the water.
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#4850386 - 05/12/10 04:10 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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It's much easier to water that way as well. I can leave it on and come back a hour later.
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#4851042 - 05/12/10 06:30 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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your also not wasting water by spraying everything.
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#4853195 - 05/13/10 09:17 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Okra - two inches tall, turning brown and getting limp.

I'm pretty sure I know whats wrong. I remember I had a half bag of peat this spring and I used that for the top couple inches of my beds. Well, peat = acidic, duh.

The plants that are able to get below that, such as, the tomatoes and peppers are doing fine but the plants that are young and have a shallow root system are failing... squash, cucumbers and okra.

So, the question is, can I ammend the soil with plants already started to counteract the peat? I think I'm gonna start over with the okra but the other plants are sorta established.
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#4853653 - 05/13/10 10:59 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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CUCUMBER BEETLEFeed on Cucumbers, cantaloupes, winter squash, pumpkins, gourds, summer squash and watermelons are preferred by adult striped cucumber beetles. They also feed on beans, peas, corn and blossoms of several wild and cultivated plants. Larvae develop on these and related cucurbits. The spotted cucumber beetle has a wider host range and, in addition to cucurbits, may be found on beans, peas, potato, beet, tomato, eggplant and cabbage. The larvae is the well-known southern corn rootworm which feeds on the roots of corn, peanuts, small grains and many wild grasses

If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.


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#4853871 - 05/13/10 11:41 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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Originally Posted By: DHFisher
Okra - two inches tall, turning brown and getting limp.

I'm pretty sure I know whats wrong. I remember I had a half bag of peat this spring and I used that for the top couple inches of my beds. Well, peat = acidic, duh.

The plants that are able to get below that, such as, the tomatoes and peppers are doing fine but the plants that are young and have a shallow root system are failing... squash, cucumbers and okra.

So, the question is, can I ammend the soil with plants already started to counteract the peat? I think I'm gonna start over with the okra but the other plants are sorta established.
You'd probably be better served by getting a container and filling it with some sort of garden soil and then transplanting the plants to the container for a week or so...Then amend the soil and replant them where you want them...Do this in the earlier part of the day and give them plenty of water to offset the shock of transplanting...
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#4853875 - 05/13/10 11:41 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
CUCUMBER BEETLEFeed on Cucumbers, cantaloupes, winter squash, pumpkins, gourds, summer squash and watermelons are preferred by adult striped cucumber beetles. They also feed on beans, peas, corn and blossoms of several wild and cultivated plants. Larvae develop on these and related cucurbits. The spotted cucumber beetle has a wider host range and, in addition to cucurbits, may be found on beans, peas, potato, beet, tomato, eggplant and cabbage. The larvae is the well-known southern corn rootworm which feeds on the roots of corn, peanuts, small grains and many wild grasses

If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.
Good information...thumb
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#4854111 - 05/13/10 12:25 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head


If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.


Holy smokes! I saw about 10 of those yesterday crawling on the corn leaves and wondered what they were. Also, my peas were eaten to the ground by what I assumed was cut worms. Wonder if if was these little suckers.

Can I use Sevin dust or do I need something else?
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#4854467 - 05/13/10 01:24 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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You should be able to nuke them with sevin, I am going organic so I am using retenone and neem oil. These little suckers are bad news. The larva from them go under the soil and attack the roots of the plant. If you dont want to nuke everything get a spray that has a stream on it and hit each one with a spray. There quick and more active in the mornings/ealry. Dont forget though the eggs and larva will be harder to see and treat. I am going to drench the soil at the plant base once all this rain passes with neem oil. Once there gone dont stop treating, they have about 3 generations through out the growing season. Ladybugs should take care of their eggs. Be careful if you nuke everything with sevin because sevin kills EVERYTHING it will also kill bees which are the plants pollinators.


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#4858445 - 05/14/10 10:37 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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I just harvested my first 2 yellow squash and 2 sugary grape tomatoes...banana I should be harvesting more next week...bannana2
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#4858631 - 05/14/10 11:19 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Had 4 more flowers on my sad looking yellow squash plants today. They were all males so I pinched em.

I can't wait to harvest some squash!
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#4858741 - 05/14/10 11:44 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?

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#4858747 - 05/14/10 11:46 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: ItsZep]
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Originally Posted By: ItsZep
Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


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#4858971 - 05/14/10 12:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: ItsZep]
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Originally Posted By: ItsZep
Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


Try knockout roses. I like caladiums for color in the shade.
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#4859080 - 05/14/10 01:02 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: bill oxner]
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I've got some impatiens going nuts. They get morning sun then full shade all day.
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#4859116 - 05/14/10 01:11 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Originally Posted By: txfour
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is that english?

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#4859124 - 05/14/10 01:12 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: ItsZep]
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I have caladiums...love them...very hardy...will make it until Oct/Nov....but wanted a colorful flower....I consider caladiums more of a plant....but thanks

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#4860016 - 05/14/10 04:24 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: ItsZep]
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Originally Posted By: ItsZep
Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


I grow azaleas, hydrangeas , begonias , coleus , caladium and impatiens under two large oak trees.
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