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#4758315 - 04/20/10 01:53 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Originally Posted By: txfour


I doctored my corn, peas, bell peppers and tomatoe plants the day before the rain with Miracle Gro plant food and everything doubled in size in just a few days. That stuff is amazing.
I agree, what ever is in miracle grow IT WORKS... I am doing all organic so i wont use miracle grow in MY garden but have set up my father in law and my Mom with miracle grow in theirs. The miracle grow is looking great and easy. I will be sure to do a taste test......


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#4758897 - 04/20/10 03:51 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
That reminds me , earlier in the thread some one mentioned black plastic. I read the black plastic was good to use in dec,jan. Cover the garden with it for a few weeks and the heat from the sunshine would kill everything in the garden soil to start the season off with "clean" soil. I will do this next year.


It'll be sterile soil. You won't have any weeds (until the wind blows 'em in there) but you also won't have any beneficial bacteria, nematodes, earthworms, etc.
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#4759139 - 04/20/10 04:44 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Btw, y'all wear good shoes or boots in the garden. Snake weather is here. Almost stepped on a baby copperhead this afternoon.
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#4759572 - 04/20/10 06:11 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
Btw, y'all wear good shoes or boots in the garden. Snake weather is here. Almost stepped on a baby copperhead this afternoon.
I've killed 2 cotton mouths the last few weeks, but they weren't in the garden...One was about 10 feet away, but not in the garden...I'll be wearing my big rubber boots when things get to really growing...
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#4761666 - 04/21/10 07:29 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Update: The strawberries are doing the best with 4-5 ripening each day and they're a lot bigger than last year 2". I've been going out there about 5min. each night with a headlamp and removing the small slugs and it's made all the difference.

Corn has doubled in size since the rain and I'm already getting several small tomato's budding, all the pepper plants look good with some flowering! Let's hope it rains at least once a week.

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#4761755 - 04/21/10 07:54 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Last week before the rains I planted some okra seeds and they are already sprouting. I also used miracle grow before it rained and the tomatoes are starting to grow and get green. However, they look kinda leggy. Everything else is lookin good. Which reminds me. I have to put up the twine for the hops. The chinook is almost 2 feet long
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#4762402 - 04/21/10 10:17 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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got 8 tomato plants going in 5 gallon buckets and they really don't seem to be doing much. I have about 3" gravel in the bottom, and have it to where it drains adequately.(i think) Wonder what I am doing wrong?

I think I need to move them to where they get as much evening sun as possible now. That my be part of my problem.

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#4762404 - 04/21/10 10:17 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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Does anyone know how to get rid of voles / field mice??? I'm told that's what my problem might be. I've had strawberries missing as soon as they turn red and my first little tomato that turned red had a big chunk missing out of it yesterday. I've noticed several holes in the ground about 1" to 1-1/4" in diameter and was told it might be vole / field mice? I built a fence 6' tall all the way around it (22' x 25') and bought the bird netting and stretched it out over the top so I don't know what else might get in there? Any suggestions would be appreciated, this is my first year to do a garden.
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#4763244 - 04/21/10 01:27 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: PriddyTxHunter]
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Looks like it will be rabbit for supper tomorrow. Little turd ate more than a half row of my peas!

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#4763504 - 04/21/10 02:24 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Dang, you just reminded me I forgot to close the gate to my garden. And I have wild rabbits...Hopefully the dogs will get to them first.


Still absolutely nothing on the strawberries - I guess I'll try to go get more. What a failure.

One of the tomato plants sprouted a yellow flour - that's got to be a good thing!?
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#4763597 - 04/21/10 02:44 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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"Still absolutely nothing on the strawberries - I guess I'll try to go get more. What a failure."

Strawberries take a couple of years to get established and they like some sand mixed in. We have been impressed with the amount this year. Give them some space and a hall pass for the first year.




Edited by AdventureTX (04/21/10 02:44 PM)
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#4763641 - 04/21/10 02:54 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Ah, okay.

I was worried because I bought them back in January, and thought it was seeds. Then when I pulled them out to plant them in late March, I found out it was more like a bulb/vine/root type seed, and I wasn't sure if they had died in the bag they came in.
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#4763656 - 04/21/10 02:56 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
Dang, you just reminded me I forgot to close the gate to my garden. And I have wild rabbits...Hopefully the dogs will get to them first.


Still absolutely nothing on the strawberries - I guess I'll try to go get more. What a failure.

One of the tomato plants sprouted a yellow flour - that's got to be a good thing!?
Yes, now go spank the plant this evening...Basically give it a good shake to pollinate the flower...
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#4763661 - 04/21/10 02:57 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX]
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Originally Posted By: AdventureTX
"Still absolutely nothing on the strawberries - I guess I'll try to go get more. What a failure."

Strawberries take a couple of years to get established and they like some sand mixed in. We have been impressed with the amount this year. Give them some space and a hall pass for the first year.


Those look great...I need to get some pics of my garden and post them...
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#4763662 - 04/21/10 02:57 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: JDavis7873®
got 8 tomato plants going in 5 gallon buckets and they really don't seem to be doing much. I have about 3" gravel in the bottom, and have it to where it drains adequately.(i think) Wonder what I am doing wrong?

I think I need to move them to where they get as much evening sun as possible now. That my be part of my problem.

Can you take a picture and post it? That'd help me...
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#4763850 - 04/21/10 03:41 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: PriddyTxHunter]
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Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Does anyone know how to get rid of voles / field mice??? I'm told that's what my problem might be. I've had strawberries missing as soon as they turn red and my first little tomato that turned red had a big chunk missing out of it yesterday. I've noticed several holes in the ground about 1" to 1-1/4" in diameter and was told it might be vole / field mice? I built a fence 6' tall all the way around it (22' x 25') and bought the bird netting and stretched it out over the top so I don't know what else might get in there? Any suggestions would be appreciated, this is my first year to do a garden.



If you're trying to keep rabbits or rats out you'll have to bury the bottom of the fence about 6" or more. Voles and mice can get through a hole the size of a dime (and smaller) so you're best bet is to either go herbal (mint seems to work but it'll take over a garden PDQ) or get you a poison bait station or traps.
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#4763861 - 04/21/10 03:43 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Anybody here do fruit trees ?
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#4764712 - 04/21/10 06:49 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Originally Posted By: Siberman
Anybody here do fruit trees ?


Have 3 apple trees 1 Granny Smith, 2 Red Delicious. They do very well when we get a good freeze in the winter, 3 steady weeks of cold really helps. We also have 1 pear tree that has done well in the past.
Picked up some NewMexico Big Jim peppers, gonna try something new this year... clap


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#4764761 - 04/21/10 07:04 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I've got one apple left and it ain't doin' too well. The main trunk has died and it's all suckers. I keep the suckers pruned off all my trees so it's not a case of neglect , they just started growing when the main part went down. Should I just go ahead and mow it down or let the shoots grow for smokin' wood ?

I've got a 3 yr old plum tree (Santa Rosa , I think)whose flowers were starting to fade when that last frost hit. It has 1/2" plums on it but they look like small candied sweet potatoes. All the other varieties as well as the peaches look fine. Any ideas ?
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#4764883 - 04/21/10 07:34 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Originally Posted By: JDavis7873®
got 8 tomato plants going in 5 gallon buckets and they really don't seem to be doing much. I have about 3" gravel in the bottom, and have it to where it drains adequately.(i think) Wonder what I am doing wrong?

I think I need to move them to where they get as much evening sun as possible now. That my be part of my problem.

Can you take a picture and post it? That'd help me...


I think the problem with everything I have is it's too dang wet. I have this 4 in 1 garden tester and pretty much every where I stuck it showed to be too wet.

How can I make my raised beds drain better? Drill holes in the sides of the walls?

My peas are almost 3' tall now and doing well. The onions and lettuce are doing well also. My maters are stuggling a bit and my okra, cukes and squash are just getting started.




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#4765059 - 04/21/10 08:10 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Originally Posted By: JDavis7873®
got 8 tomato plants going in 5 gallon buckets and they really don't seem to be doing much. I have about 3" gravel in the bottom, and have it to where it drains adequately.(i think) Wonder what I am doing wrong?

I think I need to move them to where they get as much evening sun as possible now. That my be part of my problem.

Can you take a picture and post it? That'd help me...


I think the problem with everything I have is it's too dang wet. I have this 4 in 1 garden tester and pretty much every where I stuck it showed to be too wet.

How can I make my raised beds drain better? Drill holes in the sides of the walls?

My peas are almost 3' tall now and doing well. The onions and lettuce are doing well also. My maters are stuggling a bit and my okra, cukes and squash are just getting started.


Drill some holes on the sides at the bottom and add some pea gravel to it...Not a lot, bu a little will make a HUGE difference in drainage...
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#4768434 - 04/22/10 02:04 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Anyone have any tips to lower PH with out disturbing the soil? Is there some thing I can add to the top of the soil. I know that mixing in the soil would be best but its not going to happen at this point.
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#4768441 - 04/22/10 02:05 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Peeing on it will change the PH.....just sayin.. smile

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#4768587 - 04/22/10 02:37 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
Anyone have any tips to lower PH with out disturbing the soil? Is there some thing I can add to the top of the soil. I know that mixing in the soil would be best but its not going to happen at this point.
Why are you wanting to lower it? Do you know the current PH level of your soil? What are you growing there?
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#4768634 - 04/22/10 02:44 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Plants are still not as green as they should be. Things are looking better , new growth is light green. Old growth is still what I would call yellow. I know that I have nutes in the soil. I have compost from "Rons Organics" and a mixture organic nutes I have been feeding with. I have checked my PH with a liquid soil tester, but going to recheck in a different area today and see what pops up.
The first test is showing about 7.5 ph. I am growing tomatoes, peppers, squash, okra, cucumbers. I think I need to come down to 7.-6.5. I am going to recheck right now. Be back


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