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#4736968 - 04/14/10 08:57 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in? Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... Some birds ( mockingbirds, chickens , etc.) do peck at red fruits. Bluebirds and Purple Martins don't (IME). Dead birds don't pick at anything.
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#4737358 - 04/14/10 10:24 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in? Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... Some birds ( mockingbirds, chickens , etc.) do peck at red fruits. Bluebirds and Purple Martins don't (IME). I have faith that the dog will keep them away if need be, if not I will take care of them,lol. I have birds in the garden all year long. The only problems I ever had from birds was in the dead heat of summer when they are looking for water. Most times I have seen them they were pecking at the plants but they were taking bugs. Birds picking peppers are some bad ars birds,lol, theres not much that will mess with peppers. Ill watch it and if it turns into a problem Ill move it away.
Edited by Tin Head (04/14/10 10:29 PM)
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#4737509 - 04/14/10 11:07 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Birds picking peppers are some bad ars birds,lol, theres not much that will mess with peppers. Ill watch it and if it turns into a problem Ill move it away. It was just bell peppers they were getting into, not jalapeños. My wife wanted to let them fully ripen and change colors on the vine, but had to start picking them green.
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#4738071 - 04/15/10 08:03 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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Registered: 04/06/04
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?
This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin
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#4738140 - 04/15/10 08:25 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?
This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes.
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#4738259 - 04/15/10 08:54 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?
This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes. Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?
This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?
This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes. I would suggest both of you add some gypsum to the soil... DH, you may want to get a general fertilizer...Something along a 15-15-15 and add that as well to the soil...
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#4738273 - 04/15/10 08:56 AM
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Also, a little limestone would really be helpful for the tomatoes...
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#4738331 - 04/15/10 09:09 AM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Registered: 04/06/04
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I'll try the gypsum, limestone and fertilizer.
Last year I grew a couple tomatoes in a pots with a generic soil and they didn't really take off until I dug a hole and slid a fish carcass underneath the plant....
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#4738575 - 04/15/10 09:59 AM
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Birds don't feel the heat from peppers. A good way to keep squirrels out of your bird feeder is to sprinkle the seed with pepper.
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#4739547 - 04/15/10 02:02 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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Are you're talking about the cutworms or the tomato hornworm, they are different... This is the hornworm... Hornworm This is the cutworm... Cutworm If it is the cutworm, I see them in the afternoon. If it's the hornworm, I see them in the morning...I kill them by knocking them off and stomping them...Or if I have my gloves on just squish them in my fingers...
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#4739578 - 04/15/10 02:08 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Registered: 04/06/09
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No , its the cutworm. I had a branch cut day before yesterday and thought it was the kids that did it by accident. I just walked thought the garden and theres another on the same plant.  I read they do their dirty work at night....To control climbing and army cutworms, dust plants with Sevin according to label directions. Black cutworms are harder to control because they don’t climb on the leaves. The best way to protect plants against them is to create a barrier around the plant. You can cut out the bottom of a 6- or 8-ounce plastic cup and trim the top down so that all you have left is a ring about 3 inches tall. Slip it over the plant and push it an inch or so into the ground so that it is firmly fixed. The result is a little fence that protects the transplant from the worm. I am going out there right now to dig that little critter up and take care of him......LOL
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#4739697 - 04/15/10 02:40 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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Registered: 04/06/09
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GOT EM!!! Now I need to apply some chemical agent  . If theres one there is room for others. I have sprayed the garden with Neem Oil and rotenone pyrethisis ( I think thats how its spelled) seven days ago. The label says to apply every seven days so today would be time to do it again. The problem is I dont see it working at all, didnt last year either. While I was digging for the cutworm I found a doo doo bug and a small milipede  I guess its time for seven dust...  I have introduced about 20 plants into my garden though in the last week
Edited by Tin Head (04/15/10 02:41 PM)
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#4739910 - 04/15/10 03:19 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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Need to find tobasco plants near Lewisville/Flower Mound area. Can anybody help....  Have tried Lowes/Home Depot and the local nurseries...no luck. Thanks fellers.... 
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#4739926 - 04/15/10 03:24 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Frank I]
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Need to find tobasco plants near Lewisville/Flower Mound area. Can anybody help....  Have tried Lowes/Home Depot and the local nurseries...no luck. Thanks fellers.... If all else fails try the farmers market in downtown Dallas. While your there eat all the free samples also,lol.
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#4740010 - 04/15/10 03:44 PM
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Have you tried a Wal Mart yet ? They usually carry them for a couple months . If you don't have any luck you can always direct-seed outside. They grow pretty fast.
I'll keep a lookout and if I find any we can meet in Sulpher Springs or thereabouts if you want.
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#4740024 - 04/15/10 03:48 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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You can cut the cup / toilet paper roll / paper towel roll down the side and open it up enough to go around the base of the plant then make sure it's closed when you bury it.
The wood ashes spread around the plant (described on that "cutworm" link ) work pretty well too.
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#4740865 - 04/15/10 07:21 PM
Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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It might. I've never had a problem with 'em in the veggie garden. They're all over the azalea beds but they don't seem to bother anything.
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#4740875 - 04/15/10 07:24 PM
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I rotate everything else but I've always heard that maters will do well in the same place. Think I'll put 'em around the asparagus this year.
You ever had any problems growing them near corn ?
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#4741043 - 04/15/10 08:03 PM
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Our tomatoes are planted in the same spot every year and they do well.
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#4741341 - 04/15/10 09:05 PM
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I rotate everything else but I've always heard that maters will do well in the same place. Think I'll put 'em around the asparagus this year.
You ever had any problems growing them near corn ? I don't remember ever planting them near corn...I do know according to that companion guide posted earlier in the thread, tomatoes are a bad companion for corn... http://www.tinkersgardens.com/vegetables/companionplanting.asp
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