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#4722489 - 04/11/10 03:26 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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thanks,i am so sorry for not being more specific about the information i am requesting siberman..i would like some GOOD(meaning something that you would recomend) other than a generic funny guy answer..this is a great thread and most seem to want to help each other out with info, but it seems thier is always the exception to the rule


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#4722833 - 04/11/10 06:01 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: 30ft jon boat]
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Originally Posted By: ROOKIE 07
thanks,i am so sorry for not being more specific about the information i am requesting siberman..i would like some GOOD(meaning something that you would recomend) other than a generic funny guy answer..this is a great thread and most seem to want to help each other out with info, but it seems thier is always the exception to the rule


Sorry if I offended you, bud. There's some good sites on that google page. In response to your question: try chicken litter.


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#4724559 - 04/12/10 08:44 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Some updates:

My tomatoes aren't dead yet...they're really trying to die though. I'm contemplating just buying 3 more, but who knows - I might kill those too.

The corns, beans, cucumbers, squash, and peas are all growing really well. The peas & potatoes seem to be the woodlice' favorite treat to snack on...little devils. I went outside at like 10:15 Saturday night, and the potato plants were COVERED in woodlice. I grabbed most of them off of there, and many had already fallen to their death in the yeast-water. Hopefully they'll quit coming around. If not, I'll buy some dichotomous earth.

Anyone know what strawberries should look like after about 8 days? I still see nothing.
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#4724615 - 04/12/10 08:58 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
Some updates:

My tomatoes aren't dead yet...they're really trying to die though. I'm contemplating just buying 3 more, but who knows - I might kill those too.

The corns, beans, cucumbers, squash, and peas are all growing really well. The peas & potatoes seem to be the woodlice' favorite treat to snack on...little devils. I went outside at like 10:15 Saturday night, and the potato plants were COVERED in woodlice. I grabbed most of them off of there, and many had already fallen to their death in the yeast-water. Hopefully they'll quit coming around. If not, I'll buy some dichotomous earth.

Anyone know what strawberries should look like after about 8 days? I still see nothing.
What do the tomatoes look like?
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#4724649 - 04/12/10 09:07 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Kind of green at the top, but brittle leaves. Several yellow/dead leaves at the base of the plant. And it hasn't grown any since being transplanted, about 12 days ago. Overall, the plant seems fairly dry, unlike when I bought it.
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#4724667 - 04/12/10 09:10 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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How often do you water it? It could be that it's getting too much water or not enough...It could also be doodle bugs getting to it...Those suckers are EVIL...
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#4724720 - 04/12/10 09:20 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Evil is right. They ate one of my cowpea's stems - on the inside of the stem! Crazy...it was like a hollow straw with a couple roots.

I water every couple days...If I had to guess the amount, I'd say somewhere about 10-12 oz. of water. I recycled a lot of old glass bottles we used, and fill them up with rainwater, and about 1/2 a bottle on each plant. The soil seems to stay moist for about a day and a half, hence the "every other day" watering.
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#4724816 - 04/12/10 09:42 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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hmmm Go out about 10 to 20 minutes after you've watered and look for doodle bugs...They like to pop up after the ground has been watered...If you see a bunch of them, that's going to be the problem.

How big are the plants? If they are 3 inches tall, that's too much water...6 - 12 inches, good amount of water...Taller than that, you need to get them a bit more of the liquid life...
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#4725759 - 04/12/10 01:29 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: madchad]
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Nice thread. I usually hang out at the THF and just stumbled on this thread.

I wonder if I am too late? I've had corn, peas and onions in the ground since 3/19. I also had tomatoes out on 3/13 (almost lost them to frost.

I just put out squash, jalapeno's and banana peppers yesterday. Wonder if I am too late? I still have carrots, cucumbers and okra seeds to plant.

I am also wanting to put out more corn seed as we eat a ton of corn, but wanted my harvest spread out a little. Wonder if I'm too late for that???
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#4726013 - 04/12/10 02:34 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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No you're not too late...With Perrin being further north, now is a great time to get those things in the ground...Remember on the Okra seeds to soak them in water for 24 hours before planting them...

The only thing that might not produce as well would be the carrots, but I'd think you're still okay on those...
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#4726029 - 04/12/10 02:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Remember on the Okra seeds to soak them in water for 24 hours before planting them...


Never heard of that???? Whats the thought process behind it?

Thanks
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#4726037 - 04/12/10 02:40 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Remember on the Okra seeds to soak them in water for 24 hours before planting them...


Never heard of that???? Whats the thought process behind it?

Thanks
It helps them to sprout up sooner...I've done it both without soaking and with and soaking is faster...I put them in a bowl, cover them with some water, put a plate over it and then about 24 hours later, in the ground they go...
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#4726178 - 04/12/10 03:11 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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My garden is going in to late because the cool temps stayed around so long, but the main reason, was that it was so wet I couldn't plow/fertilize and get everything ready.

Just planted another row of corn. It's unreal how dry the ground is considering how much rain we had....
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#4726218 - 04/12/10 03:19 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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Originally Posted By: txfour
My garden is going in to late because the cool temps stayed around so long, but the main reason, was that it was so wet I couldn't plow/fertilize and get everything ready.

Just planted another row of corn. It's unreal how dry the ground is considering how much rain we had....
I've been there...I think it was 2004 that I planted the garden only to have it flood and then I had to replant the garden...bang I didn't get my garden in until late last year, but I started preparing in December and January this year...I've had the onions in since 1/11 and they are doing great...
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#4726907 - 04/12/10 05:40 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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My tomato leaves are also turning brown on the bottom. I dug down in the soil well beside the plants and it is moist from 2 inches down. Also, I did see a doodle bug out there. So, what do I do? Oh, last time I watered was Thursday.

Other than that, everything else looks good except my basil never sprouted so I just replanted and my lettuces are stuck at half an inch and browning. I'm probably going to till those under and plant some okra and or more bell peppers
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#4727021 - 04/12/10 06:08 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Ok, what are y'all calling "doodlebugs" ? I was taught that ant lions (green lacewing larvae) are doodlebugs.
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#4727032 - 04/12/10 06:12 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: txfour]
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According to the almanac , the 16th and 17th are prime corn/tomato/bean/pepper planting days. All I've got in the ground right now are onions and greens.
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#4727163 - 04/12/10 06:43 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Ok, what are y'all calling "doodlebugs" ? I was taught that ant lions (green lacewing larvae) are doodlebugs.
I also call them Rollie Pollies

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#4727168 - 04/12/10 06:45 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher]
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My tomato leaves are also turning brown on the bottom. I dug down in the soil well beside the plants and it is moist from 2 inches down. Also, I did see a doodle bug out there. So, what do I do? Oh, last time I watered was Thursday.

Other than that, everything else looks good except my basil never sprouted so I just replanted and my lettuces are stuck at half an inch and browning. I'm probably going to till those under and plant some okra and or more bell peppers
You need to water a bit more on the tomatoes...

On the doodle bugs, if you're not growing organic, water, then put out the Sevin Dust...That'll take care of them...
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#4727788 - 04/12/10 09:23 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Ahhhhh, ok. Pill bugs. laugh
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#4729940 - 04/13/10 11:31 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman]
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Ahhhhh, ok. Pill bugs. laugh
No, DOO DOO bugs,lol. Thats what we called them when we were kids.
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#4733236 - 04/13/10 11:41 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head]
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Pill bugs, doodle bugs, rolly polly are most often refered to on insecticide lables as sow beetles.
I'm more likely to call an antlion a doodle bug. Had to research this one, turns out the antlion is the larva of a brown flying insect. Looks similar to the green lacewing but much larger, 3" long or more.
Green lacewing larvae look similar to lady bug larvae, with larger chewing mouth parts. In both instances it is the larvae that prey on aphids, thrips, whiteflies, and such; not the adults.
Sow beetles can be controlled by the same means as slugs and snails. Not sure if the beer in a cup trick would work on sow beetles.

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#4733745 - 04/14/10 08:14 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: sputterfuss]
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It does work on them. I have killed hundreds in the last couple days using this method. Slowly but surely...

I call them woodlice. That's at least what the internet tells me they are laugh
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#4734368 - 04/14/10 10:34 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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When I water my plants, I typically water around the base of the plant - I don't pour water from overhead. But, I was talking to a friend who said that's how she does it. Since I've always heard opposite, let me ask what do you guys and girls do?

I will say I don't care as much on the onions and carrots. They're too close for me to care that much...and they seem to be fine.
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#4734476 - 04/14/10 11:03 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
When I water my plants, I typically water around the base of the plant - I don't pour water from overhead. But, I was talking to a friend who said that's how she does it. Since I've always heard opposite, let me ask what do you guys and girls do?

I will say I don't care as much on the onions and carrots. They're too close for me to care that much...and they seem to be fine.
IMO I try to water the base of the plant also. About once a week I will "foliar" feed and spray the leaves with a light solution of nutrients, but only in the early evenings when I know that the moisture will dry off and not sit on the plants for hours and hours. That could lead to fungus growing on the leaves with the moisture just sitting there. Also you can burn the plants by watering them during the day, so I have heard. The water drops sitting on the plant during the day can be like a magnifying glass effect in the sun and burn the leaves. So, normally I will water the base of the plant and once a week foliar feed.
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