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#4592842 - 03/11/10 10:50 AM TFF Gardening Thread
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Well guys and gals, spring is here. No, not according to the calendar, but by my own declaration. grin

This morning when I was driving to the hardware store, I saw my favorite doe. When spring weather arrives for good, she begins to graze a particular pasture with the cows. It’s the only time I see her in the pasture with the cows, but it’s how I determine, at least at the top of the hill country, spring has sprung.

Therefore, I say it is time for an official TFF gardening thread.

Now is the time to get your beds, or garden, ready to plant. If it hasn’t dried up yet, you could actually look into using a raised garden bed, or even growing in containers. If you are fortunate and are able to plant directly into the ground, but have clay, or any poorly draining soils, you can remedy the problem by adding peat moss and/or sandy loam to the soil and tilling it in. I would also take this time to add nutrients such as nitrogen (chicken poo is a GREAT source of nitrogen, but you might want to cut it with brown, or fallen leaves (they add carbon to the soil). Green leaves will add more nitrogen to the soil. For those of you in North Texas and East Texas, due to the rains, you might need to add some gypsum, or limestone, to the soil, especially if you plan on growing healthy tomato plants. I would suggest having your soil tested before adding this, but it‘s a good possibility your ground has been oversaturated and needs replenishing.

Once this is done, you are ready to begin planning your garden. I would suggest plotting out your garden on a piece of paper before planting. If you grow the same vegetables in the same part of the garden every year, rotate them around. Also, leave plenty of room between the rows so that you can either till or hoe the ground throughout the growing season without risking damage to the roots. While the tap roots for the plants are pretty much directly under the plant’s stem, the entire root system is important and damaging it could weaken the plant and make it more susceptible to disease. When making plans on how you want your garden laid out, consider adding plants along the border that will attract bees. If you can get a hive coming to your garden on a daily basis your crop production will increase by approximately 30 percent.

I have had my onions in the ground since January, but it’s still not too late for you to plant yours. Many feed stores still have some available and with the wet weather we should have this spring, it won’t be long until yours make substantial growth. My sweet peas are in the ground now AND I was able to purchase 60 (total) tomato and pepper plants this morning. Although the morning temperatures are going to be too low this weekend for mine to go in the ground, I will be introducing them to the cooler temperatures for the next 7 to 10 days. I will, however, be planting my cucumber, yellow squash, zucchini and okra seeds this weekend .

One more thing, if you do have tomatoes, remember MATURE plants ONLY require .5 to 1 inch of water a week. If the plants are browning up, it might be a pest problem, or a disease, but it’s more than likely they are getting too much water. I would suggest investing in some soaker hoses (at least for the tomato plants), or hand watering, and be certain to keep any sprinklers from hitting them. It’s best to water after the sun has risen in the spring and during the heat of the summer around 4:00 in the morning.

Guys and gals, this is one of my favorite times of the year. The sun stays out longer, baby animals are appearing every day, fish are beginning the spawn, and the vegetation is beginning to sprout or green up.

While I don’t have a degree in horticulture, I do have many, many, many years of experience thanks to my mom and grandfather getting me interested when I was young. It’s a very relaxing hobby for me and if you have any questions or tips, please post them here so we can all gain knowledge from one another.


***One thing I forgot to mention, because of the strong possibilities of hail storms, I would suggest keeping your plastic milk jugs and 2 litter bottles. They can be rinsed out, the bottoms cut off and placed over small, tender plants to protect them. Just leave the lids off when you place them on the plants. They can also be used in case of a freeze, but I seriously think we are for the most part out of the woods (at least down here)...


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#4592966 - 03/11/10 11:18 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: OldSaltDog]
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My onions were planted 2/29, and they have started sprouting really well after all this rain and sun. The potatoes are also just beginning to sprout, and the lettuce is well on its way as well.

Tomatoes and Bell Peppers are still inside and I'll probably plant them in the next week or so.

I also have a strange looking little sprout that shot up in one of my peat pots that I had a bell pepper in. I'm going to cut it, but it appears to be some type of tiny round-head weed. And that is inside my house. Weird.
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#4592972 - 03/11/10 11:20 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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#4592980 - 03/11/10 11:22 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Lettuce, and spinach have been in the ground and are growing like gangbusters. 4 new roses picked out and waiting on the back porch to be put in the ground. Peach trees have budded out and are about to pop.


I love spring! grin
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#4592982 - 03/11/10 11:23 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
My onions were planted 2/29, and they have started sprouting really well after all this rain and sun. The potatoes are also just beginning to sprout, and the lettuce is well on its way as well.

Tomatoes and Bell Peppers are still inside and I'll probably plant them in the next week or so.

I also have a strange looking little sprout that shot up in one of my peat pots that I had a bell pepper in. I'm going to cut it, but it appears to be some type of tiny round-head weed. And that is inside my house. Weird.
I wanted to plant my peppers and tomatoes today, but I know better...Sunday or Monday it's supposed to get to 40, but we'll probably get down to 38 or 35, so I'm not going to risk them since they are so tender. It'd be different if they hadn't been grown in a greenhouse...I'll be buying more tomatoes tomorrow since they had some varieties I hadn't grown before and wanted to do some research before purchasing them...
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#4592993 - 03/11/10 11:27 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: OldSaltDog]
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Originally Posted By: OldSaltDog
i love spring gardening. i'm currently installing aluminum foil in by bedroom closet and getting my lamps out of storage. hopefully will have a good crop this year.


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#4593000 - 03/11/10 11:29 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
My onions were planted 2/29, and they have started sprouting really well after all this rain and sun. The potatoes are also just beginning to sprout, and the lettuce is well on its way as well.

Tomatoes and Bell Peppers are still inside and I'll probably plant them in the next week or so.

I also have a strange looking little sprout that shot up in one of my peat pots that I had a bell pepper in. I'm going to cut it, but it appears to be some type of tiny round-head weed. And that is inside my house. Weird.
Take a pic and post it before cutting it...Are you sure it's a round-headed weed? It could be a plant that the seed hasn't come off of...
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#4593039 - 03/11/10 11:38 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I'll try a picture tonight (didn't work last time because it couldn't focus on it.

It's about a 1" tall one stem, and at the top of the stem is a circular "disc" that is kind of brown.
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#4593076 - 03/11/10 11:46 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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just planted two flats of asian jasmine on the side of a slope to help stop a bit of erosion
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#4593115 - 03/11/10 11:56 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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Originally Posted By: mysavioreigns
I'll try a picture tonight (didn't work last time because it couldn't focus on it.

It's about a 1" tall one stem, and at the top of the stem is a circular "disc" that is kind of brown.
That could actually be a pepper plant that the seed didn't come off before it grew...Try to GENTLY remove the disc without pulling off the leaves or breaking the stem...
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#4593118 - 03/11/10 11:58 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: TexDawg]
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just planted two flats of asian jasmine on the side of a slope to help stop a bit of erosion
We have a lot of jasmine growing around some of our Ashe Junipers as a ground covering...I had to remove a flowerbed of that stuff a couple of years ago...It grows fast and takes over everything...We had a sidewalk running beside the guest house we didn't know was there because of the jasmine growth...
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#4593129 - 03/11/10 11:59 AM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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bang I have to drive back to Meridian to get my Homestead tomato plants I left behind...I had set them aside with the others, but forgot to pick those up...Oh well, I guess I'll go buy another flat of plants so I can save the 8%. That's a good excuse to buy another 48 plants, right?
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#4593171 - 03/11/10 12:08 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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I just wish my garden would dry out enough to till.
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#4593173 - 03/11/10 12:09 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Has anyone on here grown the Sweet 100 tomato plant before? I picked up 4 and now that I've done some research, it appears they can grow somewhere between 1 foot to 15 feet depending on the conditions...That's a HUGE difference in size...It's a cherry tomato plant (not what I wanted, but my sisters love them so I guess that's good), but I've never grown them...

If you've grown them, what was your experience like?

Also, has anyone grown the Lemon Boy variety? It's an heirloom plant that is supposed to produce 7 oz to 8 oz tomatoes that are yellowish clear in color...I will be picking up some of those too...
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#4593273 - 03/11/10 12:30 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Has anyone on here grown the Sweet 100 tomato plant before?

If you've grown them, what was your experience like?



10' sounds about right. They get big, but they stopped producing when the heat turned up and didn't start again until late September.

Unimpressed.

Oh... and the skins on them are really tough too.


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#4593460 - 03/11/10 01:20 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Swamp Donkey]
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I just wish my garden would dry out enough to till.


Man I hear ya.
This is no lie....I didn't get much from my tomato plants last spring, but had a bunch in the fall. The garden was so muddy, I got what i could one time and left the rest on the vine. My garden has literally been too wet to till ever since! We're talking complete mud pit for at least 4 months now.
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#4593514 - 03/11/10 01:33 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: anthonyhicks101]
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Will be preparing my soil this weekend. Hoping to get things in the ground by the following weekend.
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#4593525 - 03/11/10 01:35 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Kattelyn]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Has anyone on here grown the Sweet 100 tomato plant before?

If you've grown them, what was your experience like?



10' sounds about right. They get big, but they stopped producing when the heat turned up and didn't start again until late September.

Unimpressed.

Oh... and the skins on them are really tough too.
Okay, well I always have volunteer cherry tomatoes, so they can help...But DANG, 10 FEET? scared
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#4593529 - 03/11/10 01:36 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: anthonyhicks101]
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Originally Posted By: Swamp Donkey
I just wish my garden would dry out enough to till.


Man I hear ya.
This is no lie....I didn't get much from my tomato plants last spring, but had a bunch in the fall. The garden was so muddy, I got what i could one time and left the rest on the vine. My garden has literally been too wet to till ever since! We're talking complete mud pit for at least 4 months now.
If I hadn't moved our garden to the lake house a few years back, I'd be in the same ship. The garden area of Joshua is swampy too...There has been a LOT more rain north of us than we've gotten...
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#4593533 - 03/11/10 01:38 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Okay, just got back from Meridian and picked up another 48 plants...Grand total of 108 will be planted in the garden next week after I get them acclimated to the temperatures by setting them out on the screened in porch...

I also met a new fishing buddy...Man it has been a great day today...
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#4593811 - 03/11/10 02:44 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Originally Posted By: Kattelyn
Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon®
Has anyone on here grown the Sweet 100 tomato plant before?

If you've grown them, what was your experience like?



10' sounds about right. They get big, but they stopped producing when the heat turned up and didn't start again until late September.

Unimpressed.

Oh... and the skins on them are really tough too.
Okay, well I always have volunteer cherry tomatoes, so they can help...But DANG, 10 FEET? scared


They were all the way up to the eaves of the house. All I know is to hang the hummingbird feeder up there, I've gotta get a ladder. So it may just be 9' ... but doubtful. And that's not counting what decided to make a break for it from the trellises and spread all over my lawn. mad

Hey, its better than some of the roses I know of. Labeled as grows 5-6 feet.... but had a friend down in Houston fall into her 20' monster and have to go to the emergency room to get all the thorns surgically removed scared
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#4593857 - 03/11/10 02:51 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Kattelyn]
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Wow...Okay, that's gonna be tall one...I guess my sisters can pick those tomatoes if they want them...grin

My neighbor had a similar rose over here at the lake, it started pulling down the overhead phone line that's at least 15 feet high...He and the other neighbor got into who actually owned the rose because it was over taking the fence and neither one had lived here long enough to have planted it...It wasn't until the thing was taken out that they knew who actually owned it...rolfmao
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#4593867 - 03/11/10 02:54 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon®]
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If the tomatoes are climbing that high, vertically, you might be able to drape it over the other side (if it's growing on a trellis). I haven't done this personally, but I have heard of people doing this.
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#4594271 - 03/11/10 04:35 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns]
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onions are coming up nicely, peas are busting through the ground. I put 4 heads of lettuce out and killed the other 10 when they got flooded in the container I had them in. Tomatoes are about 6" tall now and peppers are about 4". My plan is to start hardening up some of the tomatoes by keeping them out for a little each evening here over the next week and have them in the ground by 3/25. Peppers can wait... They're doing in the garage.

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#4594319 - 03/11/10 04:43 PM Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: JDavis7873®]
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onions are coming up nicely, peas are busting through the ground. I put 4 heads of lettuce out and killed the other 10 when they got flooded in the container I had them in. Tomatoes are about 6" tall now and peppers are about 4". My plan is to start hardening up some of the tomatoes by keeping them out for a little each evening here over the next week and have them in the ground by 3/25. Peppers can wait... They're doing in the garage.

I'm glad your onions are doing well...It's a shame about the lettuce, but you really shouldn't pee in your vegetable containers...
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