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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 08:43 PM
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Derek 🐝
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Pretty much every large garden I see around here have their rows running east to west. I think that would give your plants the most even sun coverage.
What are the names of the tomato, japs, squash and cucumbers that you ordered.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 09:02 PM
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2 packs improved porter , 1 cherry roma toma,1 cherry belle raddish , 1 Ashley cucs,1 crookneck squash, 1 grande hot japs
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 09:28 PM
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Both of your tomato plants are indeterminate, the big vine type. Just to give you an idea how big they can get. This is one improved porter from last year. I had to get a 16' cattle panel and bend it in half to support it. This wasn't done growing yet. It went through the top of the panel. I'm 6'5" and I couldn't reach the top when it was at it's peak.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 09:37 PM
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Wow! So, now that my rows will be 35' long( it runs east to west ) how much spacing between rows ?
When you guys are growing inside how many seeds per cup? Is that amount the same as what you sow outdoors?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 10:06 PM
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Assuming that you have prevailing winds from the southwest during most of the growing season, running the rows east to west would be the best. The reason being is that the tomatoes can cross pollinate, meaning the Porters will take on attributes of the cherry Romas, and vice versa. The east west rows will minimize that, but bees, butterflies, and even accidental contact from humans can cause the cross pollination. If at all possible, maintain a distance of at least 20' between different varieties of tomatoes. I've never experienced cross pollination between different varieties of squash, melons, and gourds, and I've had them in pretty close proximity to each other (less than 10' separating varieties). I know that there are certain varieties the CAN cros pollinate, but I forget which ones will. To be safe, you may want to segregate them as well.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 10:07 PM
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This is my first thought. You could plant the radishes anywhere. They don't take up any room at all. There is a book you can pick up on Amazon for cheap. It's called Carrots love Tomatoes. It talks about what plants like to be planted together. I don't have the book at work but I do remember radishes and cucumbers are BFF's. So you could plant the radishes in the same row as the cukes.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 10:45 PM
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i'm goin' with Derek on his drawing...i have 2 raised beds 4 x 32...how about those Porters...i've ben growin'm for years...planted more taters 2dy...transplanted seedlings of porters / cukes / squash...the grow lights yawl suggested work gr8...pikshurs later
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 10:50 PM
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There is a book you can pick up on Amazon for cheap. It's called Carrots love Tomatoes. Shut your stupid face. That's a for realz book? Like for realz for realz?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 10:51 PM
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There is a book you can pick up on Amazon for cheap. It's called Carrots love Tomatoes. Shut your stupid face. That's a for realz book? Like for realz for realz? It is. Siberman recommended a year or two ago. It's really good.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 10:52 PM
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Ec ,thank you for the advice, so my tomato row shouldn't be mixed with others ? If that makes any sense at all . I guess I'm saying one row of tomato shouldn't be a mix of different kinds. Derek I owe you a coulee mcrib at this point. So my oit door , seed grown veggies, how many seeds per hole . My terminology sucks
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 10:59 PM
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Derek check that book and see if radishes ward off squash bugs . all ways heard that and all ways planted radishes around the squash and zuccinni ...still got some bugs
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 11:06 PM
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Ec ,thank you for the advice, so my tomato row shouldn't be mixed with others ? If that makes any sense at all . I guess I'm saying one row of tomato shouldn't be a mix of different kinds. Derek I owe you a coulee mcrib at this point. So my oit door , seed grown veggies, how many seeds per hole . My terminology sucks
No worries. The rows can be "mixed", just keep them apart. Think of it like 2 siblings who keep fighting while you are trying to watch something awesome on tv, like curling or ice dancing or something. You send them each to their own room. Or in Derek's case, he makes them go work in the garden. Anyhoo, here's a crude sketch I did on Derek's fancy drawing. The green "I" is one variety of tomato, the red "2" are another variety of tomato. The blue in between is some other type of plant. Squash, or cucumber, whatever. Just keep as much space between the tomato varieties as you can. Or don't. It really doesn't matter. The Porters will be smaller and have a cherry tomato Tate, and the cherries will be larger and taste like a porter.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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02/15/18 11:08 PM
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By the way, you have beautiful handwriting. Mine resembles what I think it would look like if a dog tried to imitate a doctors handwriting on a prescription.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/15/18 11:43 PM
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Derek check that book and see if radishes ward off squash bugs . all ways heard that and all ways planted radishes around the squash and zuccinni ...still got some bugs Says to plant 2 or 3 Icicle Radishes in each hill to help prevent insects on squash and cucumbers. Says Nasturtiums will repel squash bugs too.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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02/16/18 12:53 AM
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Derek check that book and see if radishes ward off squash bugs . all ways heard that and all ways planted radishes around the squash and zuccinni ...still got some bugs Says to plant 2 or 3 Icicle Radishes in each hill to help prevent insects on squash and cucumbers. Says Nasturtiums will repel squash bugs too. Plant your radishes well before your squash and let them flower (without pulling them) . Not sure but I'm thinking the flowers attract some bug that controls squash beetles .
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