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#4171337 - 11/20/09 09:36 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Weekender]
JDB3 Offline
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Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 567
Loc: Flower Mound TEXAS
I wonder if Farmed raised fish have less egos than public raised fish?


you can decide for yourself if that was a typo.


Congrats to the angler!

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#4171383 - 11/20/09 09:46 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Mexicajun1]
longhornfisherman Offline
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Mexicajun1 they use brooder males from previous years SAL breedings that way we can have almost pure Florida strain

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#4171451 - 11/20/09 10:00 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: doctorb]
Clint TTU Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 56
Loc: Lubbock
Originally Posted By: doctorb
I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying
"look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman.


+1 I'm sensing a lottabit of jealousy here...great fish no matter where it came from

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#4171617 - 11/20/09 10:38 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Clint TTU]
HotSauce_AWC Offline
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The SAL program exists soley to improve the trophy potential of bass fishing in Texas. Where the fish came from is irrevelant as far as the program is concerned.
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#4171682 - 11/20/09 10:54 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: HotSauce_AWC]
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Right,while we all would like to catch a SL,it's pure luck as to whether you get a 13 pound bite at the right time of year. It ain't skill;it's luck.

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#4171982 - 11/20/09 12:26 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Weekender]
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Sorry Jon, I have to disagree with you. Skill is not always invovled, if so most of these guides and pro's would be the only one's turning in share lunkers. You forgot about luck. What about the guys who have been out fishing for crappie and catfish and wind up catching a sharelunker? Congrats to Dr. Paul and let him enjoy his catch!
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#4172051 - 11/20/09 12:44 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: doctorb]
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Loc: EastTexas
Originally Posted By: doctorb
I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying
"look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman.


Exactly, the more SAL's the more fry for restocking. Doesn't matter where they come from. Glad Toyota stepped up and continued the program.

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#4172834 - 11/20/09 03:41 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: longhornfisherman]
Mexicajun1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/09
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Loc: Poth, TX
Originally Posted By: longhornfisherman
Mexicajun1 they use brooder males from previous years SAL breedings that way we can have almost pure Florida strain

Thanks for the input I appreciate it. Always wondered where the other half of the GOOD Genetics came into play.


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#4174010 - 11/20/09 08:56 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: horseplaydvm]
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Originally Posted By: horseplaydvm
Sorry Jon, I have to disagree with you. Skill is not always invovled, if so most of these guides and pro's would be the only one's turning in share lunkers. You forgot about luck. What about the guys who have been out fishing for crappie and catfish and wind up catching a sharelunker? Congrats to Dr. Paul and let him enjoy his catch!
Really? I doubt that 75%! While there is some LUCK involved in BASS fishing, it takes skill to target fish, find what fake foodish look a like plastic lure to throw, the size, speed, depth, action, when to change, what to change too,etc... That is not luck, that is a skill that we all as bass fishermen learn and try to perfect each and evert trip. (unless I am wrong in thinking that as this is what I do) I am not talking about the guys out cat/crappie fishing and happen along a fish like that, as I count that a a small % of the luck I eluded too earlier in this post. Sorry but KVD, Skeet, Ike, Ish...etc do not go out there on luck.
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#4174986 - 11/21/09 09:21 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
Grant2 Online   content
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If they take it as a Sharelunker then it's good no matter where or how he caught it stop the crying if you don't care then stop talking about it. Nice fish congrats...

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#4175167 - 11/21/09 10:23 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Grant2]
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Congrat's to the Angler who caught the Share Lunker! Do you think that the fish knows whether it is on a private lake or in public waters??? Even if the fish was in a bucket...you still have to get her to bite. The main point of the TPWD program is it is breeding a better strain of fish for the future of Texas Anglers. As a Grandfather I hope they grow them big enough that my grandson thinks he will be pulled out of the boat.
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#4175190 - 11/21/09 10:33 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: FUN-n-SUN]
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+1000 good post fun-n-sun.
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#4175683 - 11/21/09 02:21 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
Kes Offline
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Registered: 11/10/07
Posts: 502
Loc: Lufkin,Tx
i think we just need to congratulate the man on a job well done.the sal is a benefit for all of us angler's no matter where it is caught.once again congatulations on a great catch.

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#4175723 - 11/21/09 02:42 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Kes]
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I'd like to see a pic of this trouble maker...the fish, not the Dr.. rolfmao

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#4176677 - 11/21/09 09:38 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: kingdad101]
361V Offline
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Registered: 11/21/08
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Loc: somervell county
The SAL program is not an award, it's a program to attempt to increase the trophy potential for Texas waters. It is undeniable that he entered a fish. Thats all the artical said. Why is everyone talking about if it should "count". Count for what?
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#4176845 - 11/21/09 10:18 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: 361V]
buzzzfrog Offline
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Loc: Lake Tyler
Dude the program is for better fisheries for the future,but to say its not a reward or award is crazy,big achievment for the angler,a bass fishermans dream.The reason is cause the angler caught a big fish an knowing he is helping the fishing of future bass fisherman,which is reward an should get a award,which he does(replica).


Edited by buzzzfrog (11/21/09 10:25 PM)
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#4177044 - 11/21/09 11:35 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
joeycan24 Offline
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Registered: 05/08/08
Posts: 744
Loc: north texas
Originally Posted By: Jons3825
I failed? Whatever dude. You just earned the lil check box for ignore! I really HATE people that dislike something yet are so drawn to it to tell others why they are right when they can just not read it and move on. MY personal opnion is IT IS A PUBLIC deal as should be a PUBLIC WATER EVENT. If it was all the same why does someone not just go and buy lake fork fry and build a pond and raise the next world record? That fish will be worth over a mil plus perks. Now if YOU dont like MY PERSONAL OPNION then do not read it. Click the lil ignore box under my name and be done with it. Also I did nto see anythign to prove your lil ponds get anywhere near the pressure that the lakes I named do. So again you failed, and now you dont even get to know what I think of your reply to this. Thanks
and good luck to you.



I'm confused, are you ignoring him or is he ignoring you??? I see he earned an ignore from you but then you told him again to click ignore on him??? These posts get really old seeing someone get their feelings hurt because he put his opinion out there to be stepped on, but when it does they get all defensive. IMO a 13 pounder is a 13 pounder. Was it hatched in a swimming pull and caught as a Sal?? The answer is no. Was it caught during a 200 boat tournament on a community hole at a little public lake, the answer is no. I have never caught a 13 pounder but I feel if I go to a private lake and catch one that it is something to be proud of. The purpose of Sal program is to breed good stock for the future in hopes to produce bigger bass, that is first priority. If it were a record club just for bragging rights then set up some stipulations, otherwise catch a big fish and help preserve our sport we all love so much!

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#4177064 - 11/21/09 11:53 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: joeycan24]
buzzzfrog Offline
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Registered: 10/05/09
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Loc: Lake Tyler
Joey thank you very much I like you already,no but for real a great post good fishing to you man,fish hard
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#4177261 - 11/22/09 04:56 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: joeycan24]
Jons3825 Online   happy
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Registered: 10/30/07
Posts: 2202
Loc: North Dallas Tx
[quote=joeycan24

I'm confused, are you ignoring him or is he ignoring you??? I see he earned an ignore from you but then you told him again to click ignore on him??? [/quote]

I am ignoring him, and I was trying ot help him do the same for me. I was just trying ot help him censor the forum more to meet his needs of people not putting their opnion out there. How will they keep the lakes stocked with the same strain? What will happen when they take fish form ponds, other lakes, etc and cross breed them and put them in a random lake? Is that not what they do/did with hybrid bass? They are trying to play GOD to create things that HE might not of intended. There are a few other things that I FEEL about this but, it seems as if this is not the place to express fishing opnions and discuss topics freely.
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#4177299 - 11/22/09 05:47 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: HotSauce_AWC]
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Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 13996
Loc: Frisco, Texas
Originally Posted By: HotSauce_AWC
The SAL program exists soley to improve the trophy potential of bass fishing in Texas. Where the fish came from is irrevelant as far as the program is concerned.


I DisAgree

It's clear the Program is not working, Catch seem to decline yearly comparing to the start of the Program.

Plus many 13lb plus Bass Die while in holding tank waiting to be picked up, or In transportation to Athens.

A few years ago, TPWD killed almost all the SAL they were holding for breeding

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#4177378 - 11/22/09 07:19 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: RedRanger]
361V Offline
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Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 1139
Loc: somervell county
Red Ranger, TRUE. I think the entire program as a whole is a success. Education, stockings...but does the actual breeding portion of the program(SAL) add to the trophy potential of the lakes included? I dont think it does. We have not developed a super race of LMB for Texas. The largest contributing factor to lake records being raised and trophys being caught was their introduction of Florida strain bass in the late 70's and early 80's!
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#4177838 - 11/22/09 10:54 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: 361V]
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#4177914 - 11/22/09 11:14 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: 361V]
buzzzfrog Offline
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Registered: 10/05/09
Posts: 1426
Loc: Lake Tyler
Ok we have had 243 share lunkers caught in lake Fork,an just since 06 they have put back 10,697 sharelunker strain into Fork.This is just one lake guys, come on thats huge.I guess thats why ive heard the words (you cant please everyone),some one is always gonna gripe about a good cause.Sure there might be flaws in some areas,but deal with em,thats gonna come with just about anything in life,If life was perfect it would not be a challenge,an not be any fun.MY CONGRATS TO TPW,GREAT JOB!!!!!An yah keep them sharelunks coming(private or open waters).
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#4178067 - 11/22/09 12:26 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
Kent Andries Offline
Angler

Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 471
Loc: Stephenville TX
Man! this is intense... I ignored this post they other day just laughing when I saw the debate begin. Finally someone pointed out the purpose of the program "to help get the best possible genetics re stocked in our lakes." As far as the GOD's intentions comment How is it any different than breeding horses for racing, bulls for bucking, and dogs for show? It is pretty simple IMO if your trying to grow big bass...use big bass for breeding doesnt matter where they came from a 13 lb fish is a 13 lb fish.

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#4179049 - 11/22/09 04:33 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: doctorb]
El Grande Offline
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Registered: 07/27/08
Posts: 505
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: doctorb
I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying
"look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman.


I was wondering the same thing. I congratulate anyone catching a fish of that magnitude, private or public.
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