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#4171337 - 11/20/09 09:36 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Weekender]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 567
Loc: Flower Mound TEXAS
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I wonder if Farmed raised fish have less egos than public raised fish?
you can decide for yourself if that was a typo.
Congrats to the angler!
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#4171383 - 11/20/09 09:46 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Mexicajun1]
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Green Horn
Registered: 02/21/09
Posts: 1
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Mexicajun1 they use brooder males from previous years SAL breedings that way we can have almost pure Florida strain
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#4171451 - 11/20/09 10:00 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: doctorb]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 56
Loc: Lubbock
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I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying "look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman. +1 I'm sensing a lottabit of jealousy here...great fish no matter where it came from
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#4171617 - 11/20/09 10:38 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Clint TTU]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 06/21/09
Posts: 766
Loc: Garland, Tx
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The SAL program exists soley to improve the trophy potential of bass fishing in Texas. Where the fish came from is irrevelant as far as the program is concerned.
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#4171682 - 11/20/09 10:54 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: HotSauce_AWC]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3812
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Right,while we all would like to catch a SL,it's pure luck as to whether you get a 13 pound bite at the right time of year. It ain't skill;it's luck.
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#4171982 - 11/20/09 12:26 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Weekender]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/07/09
Posts: 3052
Loc: Ok or Tx
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Sorry Jon, I have to disagree with you. Skill is not always invovled, if so most of these guides and pro's would be the only one's turning in share lunkers. You forgot about luck. What about the guys who have been out fishing for crappie and catfish and wind up catching a sharelunker? Congrats to Dr. Paul and let him enjoy his catch!
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#4172051 - 11/20/09 12:44 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: doctorb]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 882
Loc: EastTexas
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I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying "look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman. Exactly, the more SAL's the more fry for restocking. Doesn't matter where they come from. Glad Toyota stepped up and continued the program.
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#4172834 - 11/20/09 03:41 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: longhornfisherman]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/02/09
Posts: 2185
Loc: Poth, TX
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Mexicajun1 they use brooder males from previous years SAL breedings that way we can have almost pure Florida strain Thanks for the input I appreciate it. Always wondered where the other half of the GOOD Genetics came into play. Rob
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#4174010 - 11/20/09 08:56 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: horseplaydvm]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/30/07
Posts: 2202
Loc: North Dallas Tx
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Sorry Jon, I have to disagree with you. Skill is not always invovled, if so most of these guides and pro's would be the only one's turning in share lunkers. You forgot about luck. What about the guys who have been out fishing for crappie and catfish and wind up catching a sharelunker? Congrats to Dr. Paul and let him enjoy his catch! Really? I doubt that 75%! While there is some LUCK involved in BASS fishing, it takes skill to target fish, find what fake foodish look a like plastic lure to throw, the size, speed, depth, action, when to change, what to change too,etc... That is not luck, that is a skill that we all as bass fishermen learn and try to perfect each and evert trip. (unless I am wrong in thinking that as this is what I do) I am not talking about the guys out cat/crappie fishing and happen along a fish like that, as I count that a a small % of the luck I eluded too earlier in this post. Sorry but KVD, Skeet, Ike, Ish...etc do not go out there on luck.
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#4174986 - 11/21/09 09:21 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Jons3825]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 4124
Loc: Humble,Tx US
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If they take it as a Sharelunker then it's good no matter where or how he caught it stop the  if you don't care then stop talking about it. Nice fish congrats...
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#4175167 - 11/21/09 10:23 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Grant2]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/23/06
Posts: 1363
Loc: Hurst and Granbury, TX
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Congrat's to the Angler who caught the Share Lunker! Do you think that the fish knows whether it is on a private lake or in public waters??? Even if the fish was in a bucket...you still have to get her to bite. The main point of the TPWD program is it is breeding a better strain of fish for the future of Texas Anglers. As a Grandfather I hope they grow them big enough that my grandson thinks he will be pulled out of the boat.
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#4175683 - 11/21/09 02:21 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: buzzzfrog]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 11/10/07
Posts: 502
Loc: Lufkin,Tx
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i think we just need to congratulate the man on a job well done.the sal is a benefit for all of us angler's no matter where it is caught.once again congatulations on a great catch.
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#4176677 - 11/21/09 09:38 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: kingdad101]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 1139
Loc: somervell county
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The SAL program is not an award, it's a program to attempt to increase the trophy potential for Texas waters. It is undeniable that he entered a fish. Thats all the artical said. Why is everyone talking about if it should "count". Count for what?
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#4177044 - 11/21/09 11:35 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: Jons3825]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 05/08/08
Posts: 744
Loc: north texas
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I failed? Whatever dude. You just earned the lil check box for ignore! I really HATE people that dislike something yet are so drawn to it to tell others why they are right when they can just not read it and move on. MY personal opnion is IT IS A PUBLIC deal as should be a PUBLIC WATER EVENT. If it was all the same why does someone not just go and buy lake fork fry and build a pond and raise the next world record? That fish will be worth over a mil plus perks. Now if YOU dont like MY PERSONAL OPNION then do not read it. Click the lil ignore box under my name and be done with it. Also I did nto see anythign to prove your lil ponds get anywhere near the pressure that the lakes I named do. So again you failed, and now you dont even get to know what I think of your reply to this. Thanks and good luck to you. I'm confused, are you ignoring him or is he ignoring you??? I see he earned an ignore from you but then you told him again to click ignore on him??? These posts get really old seeing someone get their feelings hurt because he put his opinion out there to be stepped on, but when it does they get all defensive. IMO a 13 pounder is a 13 pounder. Was it hatched in a swimming pull and caught as a Sal?? The answer is no. Was it caught during a 200 boat tournament on a community hole at a little public lake, the answer is no. I have never caught a 13 pounder but I feel if I go to a private lake and catch one that it is something to be proud of. The purpose of Sal program is to breed good stock for the future in hopes to produce bigger bass, that is first priority. If it were a record club just for bragging rights then set up some stipulations, otherwise catch a big fish and help preserve our sport we all love so much!
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#4177261 - 11/22/09 04:56 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: joeycan24]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/30/07
Posts: 2202
Loc: North Dallas Tx
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[quote=joeycan24
I'm confused, are you ignoring him or is he ignoring you??? I see he earned an ignore from you but then you told him again to click ignore on him??? [/quote]
I am ignoring him, and I was trying ot help him do the same for me. I was just trying ot help him censor the forum more to meet his needs of people not putting their opnion out there. How will they keep the lakes stocked with the same strain? What will happen when they take fish form ponds, other lakes, etc and cross breed them and put them in a random lake? Is that not what they do/did with hybrid bass? They are trying to play GOD to create things that HE might not of intended. There are a few other things that I FEEL about this but, it seems as if this is not the place to express fishing opnions and discuss topics freely.
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#4177299 - 11/22/09 05:47 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: HotSauce_AWC]
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burro desagradable
Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 13996
Loc: Frisco, Texas
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The SAL program exists soley to improve the trophy potential of bass fishing in Texas. Where the fish came from is irrevelant as far as the program is concerned. I DisAgree It's clear the Program is not working, Catch seem to decline yearly comparing to the start of the Program. Plus many 13lb plus Bass Die while in holding tank waiting to be picked up, or In transportation to Athens. A few years ago, TPWD killed almost all the SAL they were holding for breeding
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#4177378 - 11/22/09 07:19 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: RedRanger]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 1139
Loc: somervell county
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Red Ranger, TRUE. I think the entire program as a whole is a success. Education, stockings...but does the actual breeding portion of the program(SAL) add to the trophy potential of the lakes included? I dont think it does. We have not developed a super race of LMB for Texas. The largest contributing factor to lake records being raised and trophys being caught was their introduction of Florida strain bass in the late 70's and early 80's!
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#4177838 - 11/22/09 10:54 AM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: 361V]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 38200
Loc: Crandall, TX
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#4178067 - 11/22/09 12:26 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: buzzzfrog]
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Angler
Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 471
Loc: Stephenville TX
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Man! this is intense... I ignored this post they other day just laughing when I saw the debate begin. Finally someone pointed out the purpose of the program "to help get the best possible genetics re stocked in our lakes." As far as the GOD's intentions comment How is it any different than breeding horses for racing, bulls for bucking, and dogs for show? It is pretty simple IMO if your trying to grow big bass...use big bass for breeding doesnt matter where they came from a 13 lb fish is a 13 lb fish.
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#4179049 - 11/22/09 04:33 PM
Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09
[Re: doctorb]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 07/27/08
Posts: 505
Loc: Indiana
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I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying "look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman. I was wondering the same thing. I congratulate anyone catching a fish of that magnitude, private or public.
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